For Boris (WAS: Question for the low light shooters)

2006-04-22 Thread Fernando Terrazzino
Hi everyone, Last week Boris asked me to see examples of some high ISO images with and without being noise cleaned by NeatImage. I've been busy, my apologies for the delay, but here they are: http://www.flickr.com/photos/[EMAIL PROTECTED]/sets/72057594113578363/ All of them where shot with an

Re: For Boris (WAS: Question for the low light shooters)

2006-04-22 Thread David Savage
I've posted this before, but here is a comparison between Neat Image, Noise Ninja CS2's Reduce Noise filter on a ISO 3200 shot: http://www.arach.net.au/~savage/Misc/Noise%20Test/Misc_008.htm Dave S. On 4/22/06, Fernando Terrazzino [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Hi everyone, Last week Boris asked

Re: For Boris (WAS: Question for the low light shooters)

2006-04-22 Thread Boris Liberman
Hi! Last week Boris asked me to see examples of some high ISO images with and without being noise cleaned by NeatImage. I've been busy, my apologies for the delay, but here they are: http://www.flickr.com/photos/[EMAIL PROTECTED]/sets/72057594113578363/ Thanks Fernando. I should (honestly

Re: For Boris (WAS: Question for the low light shooters)

2006-04-22 Thread Fernando Terrazzino
Dave, that's much better than mine... On 4/22/06, David Savage [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I've posted this before, but here is a comparison between Neat Image, Noise Ninja CS2's Reduce Noise filter on a ISO 3200 shot: http://www.arach.net.au/~savage/Misc/Noise%20Test/Misc_008.htm Dave S.

Re: For Boris (WAS: Question for the low light shooters)

2006-04-22 Thread Fernando Terrazzino
Really? have you compare them at 100%? it's a matter of taste I guess... On 4/22/06, Boris Liberman [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Hi! Last week Boris asked me to see examples of some high ISO images with and without being noise cleaned by NeatImage. I've been busy, my apologies for the delay,

Re: For Boris (WAS: Question for the low light shooters)

2006-04-22 Thread Mishka
so do I. in fact, as i read rave reviews of noise ninja, i bought myself a license last year, and after a few attempts to master it, came to conclusion that with it, the hi-iso images too look better as they are, than processed. i also find idt-dl noise at 1600 quite acceptable. best, mishka On

Re: Question for the low light shooters

2006-04-12 Thread Boris Liberman
Hi! Fernando, you did really well... I have few points to make, so that you might want to consider them for your next shoot. 1. I concur with what Godfrey said about potential to b/w rendering... Also, if rendered b/w, the picture does not necessarily require to be noise-reduced... You can

Re: Question for the low light shooters

2006-04-12 Thread Kostas Kavoussanakis
On Wed, 12 Apr 2006, Boris Liberman wrote: c. Use 2 sec mirror pre-fire feature. Handheld? Interesting; how does this work? Do people-subjects react to the delay? Kostas

Re: Question for the low light shooters

2006-04-12 Thread Fernando Terrazzino
Hi Boris, I don't have the originals at work, I'll post a link to some unpostprocessed images once I upload them at home. Thanks for the ideas. PS: MikeRobert and the others were ppl are posing, were taken with the popup flash (with and awfull result as you can see... next time I'll bring the

Re: Question for the low light shooters

2006-04-12 Thread Boris Liberman
Hi! c. Use 2 sec mirror pre-fire feature. Handheld? Interesting; how does this work? Do people-subjects react to the delay? Kostas, if people are posing, they don't necessarily know when the shot was actually taken. I doubt they will notice the 2 sec delay once you pronounce that the

Re: Question for the low light shooters

2006-04-11 Thread Paul Stenquist
I'd say you did a rather good job on the technical side of things considering the conditions. You might pull up the midrange brightness on some of them. You can do that in PhotoShop curves with the rgb curve. Just push the middle up. You might also improve some of them slightly with an

Re: Question for the low light shooters

2006-04-11 Thread Fernando Terrazzino
I guess that's why most of the low light photography I see is shot with BW (or BW in mind); makes sense, you can use blown highlights and darks, and the grainiy look actually looks good in BW. I'll give it try next time. thnks On 4/11/06, Godfrey DiGiorgi [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Not a

Re: Question for the low light shooters

2006-04-11 Thread Fernando Terrazzino
Paul, reading your post I realized that if I had composed that way (I mean the right way) it would've been much better also for the post-process, right? I mean that way I could've avoid some backlight which was problematic to deal with during the shots and in the postprocessing. Didn't know about

RE: Question for the low light shooters

2006-04-11 Thread Tim Øsleby
Arthur C. Clarke, or some other clever guy) -Original Message- From: Fernando Terrazzino [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: 11. april 2006 07:01 To: pentax-discuss@pdml.net Subject: Question for the low light shooters Last friday I had the chance to do my first indoor available light

Re: Question for the low light shooters

2006-04-11 Thread Fernando Terrazzino
. april 2006 07:01 To: pentax-discuss@pdml.net Subject: Question for the low light shooters Last friday I had the chance to do my first indoor available light shooting. The small event was not really a happy one, as this was a farewell lunch for a couple of co-workers that joined the 500

Question for the low light shooters

2006-04-10 Thread Fernando Terrazzino
Last friday I had the chance to do my first indoor available light shooting. The small event was not really a happy one, as this was a farewell lunch for a couple of co-workers that joined the 500 employees that were laid-off last week by the Co. I work for. Anyway I tried to capture some shots as

Re: Question for the low light shooters

2006-04-10 Thread Godfrey DiGiorgi
Not a disparagement of your effort, Fernando, but I'm not a fan of the Neat Image 'noise smoothed' look. It makes everything look somewhat plasticky and artificial to me. How to improve on the look ... well, I'm not sure. It depends upon what you're after. I tend to work such low-light