Re: PESO: Leap of Faith - Version 1.1

2005-08-15 Thread P. J. Alling
The first version is a bit washed out but the second is too dark. I'm not sure about the sharpening either has it's merits. frank theriault wrote: As a result of an off-list discussion, I modified this one that I initially posted yesterday, in two ways: First, on the original, I sharpened

Re: PESO: Leap of Faith - Version 1.1

2005-08-15 Thread Eactivist
What Paul said -- you need more detail in the shadow. If you can't do Shadows/Highlights go for somewhere between the two versions. Nice shot, frank! Marnie aka Doe In a message dated 8/14/2005 4:14:20 PM Pacific Standard Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: Hi Frank, There's

Re: PESO: Leap of Faith - Version 1.1

2005-08-15 Thread Juan Buhler
Hi Frank, As others, I'd prefer something midway through both of the images. The sharp one almost looks artificial. But in any case--I hadn't had the chance to see this the first time you posted. It's fantastic! Excellent photo, and a great example of color that works, somehow it feels like in

Re: PESO: Leap of Faith - Version 1.1

2005-08-15 Thread Gonz
Frank, I prefer the original. Or actually, somewhere in between to be quite honest. The improved version is overly sharpened and saturated, leaving many of the details and tonal range messed up, IMO. Nice pic tho. rg frank theriault wrote: As a result of an off-list discussion, I

Re: PESO: Leap of Faith - Version 1.1

2005-08-15 Thread frank theriault
On 8/15/05, Gonz [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Frank, I prefer the original. Or actually, somewhere in between to be quite honest. The improved version is overly sharpened and saturated, leaving many of the details and tonal range messed up, IMO. Nice pic tho. Thanks, everybody for your

Re: PESO: Leap of Faith

2005-08-14 Thread Cotty
On 13/8/05, frank theriault, discombobulated, unleashed: There were a bunch of teenagers there who had set up an inflatable mini-tramp, and were running at top speed down the dune (half falling, mostly out of control), then jumping onto the trampoline and into the water. They looked like they

Re: PESO: Leap of Faith

2005-08-14 Thread John Forbes
Yes, I agree. It has a sort of timeless quality; could almost have been taken in the 50s. Mind you, it is Canada. :-) John On Sun, 14 Aug 2005 08:34:28 +0100, Cotty [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On 13/8/05, frank theriault, discombobulated, unleashed: There were a bunch of teenagers there

Re: PESO: Leap of Faith

2005-08-14 Thread Godfrey DiGiorgi
On Aug 13, 2005, at 3:54 PM, frank theriault wrote: http://www.photo.net/photodb/photo?photo_id=3631907size=lg frank! You've dashed the hope of your signature line and gone sharp on us. How sad!! ... ]'-) Great shot, really. Timeless. You've caught Youth and Summer in this frame.

RE: PESO: Leap of Faith

2005-08-14 Thread Markus Maurer
Hi Frank I agree with all of the comments so far. I lovely photo of a wonderful place, taken in the right moment and with a good composition. greetings Markus , as were the spectators. I snapped a few, including this one: http://www.photo.net/photodb/photo?photo_id=3631907size=lg Comments

Re: PESO: Leap of Faith

2005-08-14 Thread frank theriault
On 8/13/05, David Savage [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: G'day Frank, An absolutely stunning shot. Thanks, David. You've caught the action at the perfect moment, composition, focus DOF are all spot on. I would have normally liked to pan this type of shot, to get motion blur, and to separate the

Re: PESO: Leap of Faith

2005-08-14 Thread frank theriault
On 8/14/05, Markus Maurer [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Hi Frank I agree with all of the comments so far. I lovely photo of a wonderful place, taken in the right moment and with a good composition. greetings Markus Markus, Cotty, Godfrey, John, Thanks for your thoughts and comments. I really

Re: PESO: Leap of Faith - Version 1.1

2005-08-14 Thread Godfrey DiGiorgi
On Aug 14, 2005, at 2:01 PM, frank theriault wrote: http://www.photo.net/photodb/photo?photo_id=3634511size=lg For reference, here's the original: http://www.photo.net/photodb/photo?photo_id=3631907size=lg Hmm. I tend to like the original rendering more. I think it does a better job of

Re: PESO: Leap of Faith - Version 1.1

2005-08-14 Thread Paul Stenquist
Hi Frank, There's something to be said for the new version. I like the sharpneing, and I like the reduced highlights. I would choose it over the original. But I think you can do better. In the new version, you've lost all the shadow detail in the leaper's face. I'd go back to the original and

RE: PESO: Leap of Faith - Version 1.1

2005-08-14 Thread Markus Maurer
Hi Frank you overdid it for me. The face of the jumper is too dark now and I don't mind the background and the people there being a bit on the light and overexposed side because it draws the attention more on the main subject. Your second version is not an improvement for me therefore, maybe we

Re: PESO: Leap of Faith - Version 1.1

2005-08-14 Thread frank theriault
On 8/14/05, Paul Stenquist [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Hi Frank, snip But I think you can do better.snip Oh my God. A highschool flashback. cheers, frank vbg -- Sharpness is a bourgeois concept. -Henri Cartier-Bresson

Re: PESO: Leap of Faith - Version 1.1

2005-08-14 Thread Powell Hargrave
I think you went just a little too far with the new one. I like the summer brightness of the first but I think just a touch of curves would help. Same with the sharpening. A bit too much and even a touch too much on the jumper in the original as there is a halo in front of his body. A great

RE: PESO: Leap of Faith

2005-08-13 Thread Don Sanderson
Super shot Frank! I'm still a bit in shock seeing these sharp, well focused, perfect DOF, COLOR shots from you! ;-) Obviously everyone had a great time, very nice. Don -Original Message- From: frank theriault [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Saturday, August 13, 2005 5:55 PM To: PDML

Re: PESO: Leap of Faith

2005-08-13 Thread frank theriault
On 8/13/05, Don Sanderson [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Super shot Frank! Thanks! blush I'm still a bit in shock seeing these sharp, well focused, perfect DOF, COLOR shots from you! ;-) I ~can~ do that stuff, when I really want to (I know it's hard to believe). LOL Obviously everyone had a

Re: PESO: Leap of Faith

2005-08-13 Thread P. J. Alling
Nicely captured. You do realize the main subject is in focus... frank theriault wrote: I had planned a proper PAW for today, but now I can't. It looked cool in the viewfinder, fine on the neg on a light table under a loupe, but when I got the 8x10 back today, I had to file it under what the

Re: PESO: Leap of Faith

2005-08-13 Thread frank theriault
On 8/13/05, P. J. Alling [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Nicely captured. You do realize the main subject is in focus... ' Sorry. I'll try to jiggle the camera, or focus on a tree or something next time. LOL Thanks for your comments, Peter. cheers, frank -- Sharpness is a bourgeois concept.

RE: PESO: Leap of Faith

2005-08-13 Thread Don Sanderson
Beautiful place, and my favorite part, not too crowded. Don -Original Message- From: frank theriault [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Saturday, August 13, 2005 6:36 PM To: pentax-discuss@pdml.net Subject: Re: PESO: Leap of Faith snip Yeah, it was a fun day. Here's a shot from

Re: PESO: Leap of Faith

2005-08-13 Thread Paul Stenquist
Good grab, Frank. I like the way you framed it with the leaper at the far right. You must have cropped it!! Did you take it off the top or the bottom. I wouldn't mind seeing more at the bottom. Paul On Aug 13, 2005, at 6:54 PM, frank theriault wrote: I had planned a proper PAW for today, but

Re: PESO: Leap of Faith

2005-08-13 Thread frank theriault
On 8/13/05, Paul Stenquist [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Good grab, Frank. I like the way you framed it with the leaper at the far right. You must have cropped it!! Did you take it off the top or the bottom. I wouldn't mind seeing more at the bottom. Paul Full frame, baby!! See, that's what comes

Re: PESO: Leap of Faith

2005-08-13 Thread frank theriault
On 8/13/05, Don Sanderson [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Beautiful place, and my favorite part, not too crowded. Yeah, it's a huge place (you don't get a sense of that in my photo). The beach curves around to the left, and goes on for quite a distance. There were people walking past us all day, with

Re: PESO: Leap of Faith

2005-08-13 Thread Paul Stenquist
Very nice. Well composed and framed. And a beautiful location. Aesthetically, I tend to like this more thean the other, although the leaper is, of course, a high interest subject. Good work. On Aug 13, 2005, at 7:35 PM, frank theriault wrote: On 8/13/05, Don Sanderson [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

Re: PESO: Leap of Faith

2005-08-13 Thread Paul Stenquist
Ah, you didn't crop! . I didn't realize that my laptop had lost its internet connection when your pic was half loaded. (DOH). So I got a panorama with only the top half. Now, I like this even more. The trampoline at the bottom ties it all together. Excellent shot. On Aug 13, 2005, at 7:58 PM,

Re: PESO: Leap of Faith

2005-08-13 Thread Paul Stenquist
Here I am replying to my own messages again:-). Now that I've seen the whole pic, I prefer the leaper, but they're both good pics. Paul On Aug 13, 2005, at 8:14 PM, Paul Stenquist wrote: Very nice. Well composed and framed. And a beautiful location. Aesthetically, I tend to like this more

RE: PESO: Leap of Faith

2005-08-13 Thread Don Sanderson
So, we have; In Camera Crop In PS Crop In Enlarger Crop and now... In Ternet Crop! ;-) Don -Original Message- From: Paul Stenquist [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Saturday, August 13, 2005 7:18 PM To: pentax-discuss@pdml.net Subject: Re: PESO: Leap of Faith Ah, you didn't crop

Re: PESO: Leap of Faith

2005-08-13 Thread David Savage
G'day Frank, An absolutely stunning shot. You've caught the action at the perfect moment, composition, focus DOF are all spot on. I also really like the expressions of the people watching in the background. What really blows me away is that you have beaches. When I think Canada, I see prairies,