From: Aaron Reynolds [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Date: 2006/04/05 Wed AM 01:55:00 GMT
To: pentax-discuss@pdml.net
Subject: Re: Why dustproblems ? (WasRE: *ist D vs DS2, some questions)
It's okay, Lon, my own camera doesn't display this problem.
You have _no_ hot/dead pixels? Anyone else?
I
: Aaron Reynolds [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Date: 2006/04/05 Wed AM 01:55:00 GMT
To: pentax-discuss@pdml.net
Subject: Re: Why dustproblems ? (WasRE: *ist D vs DS2, some questions)
It's okay, Lon, my own camera doesn't display this problem.
You have _no_ hot/dead pixels? Anyone else?
I meant how do you
From: Paul Stenquist [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Date: 2006/04/05 Wed AM 10:22:41 GMT
To: pentax-discuss@pdml.net
Subject: Re: Why dustproblems ? (WasRE: *ist D vs DS2, some questions)
I don't have any noticeable hot or dead pixels on either of my D
bodies. I think I ran some tests on the first
On Apr 5, 2006, at 3:47 AM, mike wilson wrote:
You have _no_ hot/dead pixels? Anyone else?
No, I wouldn't say that I have no hot or dead pixels -- someone
previously said that the camera's software knows where these pixels are
and compensates in some way. However, I do not get these
Quoting Aaron Reynolds [EMAIL PROTECTED]:
On Apr 5, 2006, at 3:47 AM, mike wilson wrote:
You have _no_ hot/dead pixels? Anyone else?
No, I wouldn't say that I have no hot or dead pixels -- someone
previously said that the camera's software knows where these pixels
are and compensates in
From: Aaron Reynolds [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Date: 2006/04/05 Wed PM 12:57:59 GMT
To: pentax-discuss@pdml.net
Subject: Re: Why dustproblems ? (WasRE: *ist D vs DS2, some questions)
On Apr 5, 2006, at 3:47 AM, mike wilson wrote:
You have _no_ hot/dead pixels? Anyone else?
No, I
On Apr 5, 2006, at 9:07 AM, mike wilson wrote:
My understanding is that there is software to deal with this in camera
and you can also (_at specific sizes_) produce actions in PS to phix
the problem with, relatively, very little effort.
Yeah, but if I have to get 500 images onto the
From: Aaron Reynolds [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Date: 2006/04/05 Wed PM 01:17:42 GMT
To: pentax-discuss@pdml.net
Subject: Re: Why dustproblems ? (WasRE: *ist D vs DS2, some questions)
On Apr 5, 2006, at 9:07 AM, mike wilson wrote:
My understanding is that there is software to deal
It's not at web image size, it's at the full size out of the camera.
-Aaron
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In that case, you need a solution.
From: Aaron Reynolds [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Date: 2006/04/05 Wed PM 01:45:00 GMT
To: pentax-discuss@pdml.net
Subject: Re: Re: Why dustproblems ? (WasRE: *ist D vs DS2, some questions)
It's not at web image size, it's at the full size out of the camera
On Apr 5, 2006, at 9:49 AM, mike wilson wrote:
In that case, you need a solution.
Yep! And that's why I was asking for one. ;)
But I'm good -- list wisdom seems to be that if I don't have them now,
they won't show up later. Of course, if they do I'll let you all know.
-Aaron
From: Aaron Reynolds [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Date: 2006/04/05 Wed PM 02:36:26 GMT
To: pentax-discuss@pdml.net
Subject: Re: Why dustproblems ? (WasRE: *ist D vs DS2, some questions)
On Apr 5, 2006, at 9:49 AM, mike wilson wrote:
In that case, you need a solution.
Yep! And that's why I
From: Aaron Reynolds [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Date: 2006/04/05 Wed PM 02:48:56 GMT
To: pentax-discuss@pdml.net
Subject: Re: Why dustproblems ? (WasRE: *ist D vs DS2, some questions)
On Apr 5, 2006, at 10:41 AM, mike wilson wrote:
Did you do the test?
No -- what will it tell me
On Apr 5, 2006, at 10:52 AM, mike wilson wrote:
It produces the worst-case scenario. So that, for example, you know
that there is a bunch of potential troublemakers in a certain place
and you can avoid them. Doesn't seem to have worked so far. 8-)
Heh. Well, maybe I'll run it if I
On Apr 5, 2006, at 10:41 AM, mike wilson wrote:
Did you do the test?
No -- what will it tell me that shooting real-life images and checking
them won't? I don't care if I *have* bad pixels, I only care if they
can be seen in the images.
-Aaron
The bad pixels are built in to your sensor, and everyone has them in a
different location. It's not hard to make a photoshop action that will
minimize them at a certain capture size. Email me for details.
-Lon
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Aaron Reynolds wrote:
Dave, that's from your D. The spots I'm
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The bad pixels are built in to your sensor, and everyone has them in a
different location. It's not hard to make a photoshop action that will
minimize them
Quoting Aaron Reynolds [EMAIL PROTECTED]:
On Mar 30, 2006, at 9:08 AM, David Savage wrote:
I can't see any dust. Just a some hot pixels.
Is that what those are?
Why do they go away when blown with a blower brush?
Can't answer that either, but they sure are odd for dust specs. All
Quoting Mark Roberts [EMAIL PROTECTED]:
Cotty wrote:
Poping in late on this one.
Does that mean you're going to be pontificating?
That's theologically possible.
...if you follow the PDML religiously.
Even with a canon.
...using Pentax lenses that have been altared to fit.
From: Jostein [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Date: 2006/03/31 Fri AM 10:37:47 GMT
To: pentax-discuss@pdml.net
Subject: Re: Why dustproblems ? (WasRE: *ist D vs DS2, some questions)
Quoting Mark Roberts [EMAIL PROTECTED]:
Cotty wrote:
Poping in late on this one.
Does that mean you're
Cotty wrote:
Poping in late on this one.
Does that mean you're going to be pontificating?
That's theologically possible.
...if you follow the PDML religiously.
Even with a canon.
...using Pentax lenses that have been altared to fit.
This is true, I confess.
Aren't we fortunate that we
Not blaming you for that Aaron. Its something i never noticed, but also
never went looking fo either.:-)
Good to know, so i can watch for it now.
Dave
Quoting Aaron Reynolds [EMAIL PROTECTED]:
On Mar 30, 2006, at 7:54 PM, David J Brooks wrote:
But whats bad about this whole thread from
Quoting mike wilson [EMAIL PROTECTED]:
8-)
The meeting just too exciting, again?
Exciting enough to make me grumpy. :-)
Jostein
(slightly out to lunch)
This message was sent using IMP, the Internet Messaging Program.
On 31/3/06, Leon Altoff, discombobulated, unleashed:
Using bellows is very bad for dust. All that extending in and out
sucking the air in and blowing it around.
Doesn't help the camera none neither.
Cheers,
Cotty
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On 31/3/06, Leon Altoff, discombobulated, unleashed:
Using bellows is very bad for dust. All that extending in and out
sucking the air in and blowing it around.
Sounds like me walking round GFM last year.
Wezze, Wezze
Dave
Equine Photography in York Region
- Original Message -
From: Tim Øsleby
Subject: Why dustproblems ? (WasRE: *ist D vs DS2, some questions)
I have been wondering about one thing.
In the 10 months I've had my DS, I have had dust on sensor one time. I'm
not
very careful with my equipment. I do change lens almost
On 30 Mar 2006 at 6:25, William Robb wrote:
Some people are looking for problems, and find them.
Others aren't, and don't.
I often only find I have dust problems after a session of macro shots :-(
Rob Studdert
HURSTVILLE AUSTRALIA
Tel +61-2-9554-4110
UTC(GMT) +10 Hours
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: William Robb [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: 30. mars 2006 14:25
To: pentax-discuss@pdml.net
Subject: Re: Why dustproblems ? (WasRE: *ist D vs DS2, some questions)
- Original Message -
From: Tim Øsleby
Subject: Why dustproblems ? (WasRE: *ist D vs DS2, some questions)
I have been
between th D and DS.
Ring any bells for anyone?
-Aaron
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- Original Message
On Mar 30, 2006, at 6:38 AM, Tim Øsleby wrote:
In the 10 months I've had my DS, I have had dust on sensor one time.
I'm not
very careful with my equipment. I do change lens almost everywhere. I
don't
leave the camera house open, and I do try to be a little careful, but
I have
a rather
Here's a chunk out of the middle of a file, unresized, unsharpened,
uncorrected, compressed a little more for the web. It clearly shows a
couple of the mean dusties I'm talking about (plus some not-so-bad
ones):
http://aaronreynolds.ca/albums/PDML/dust.jpg
Is this out-of-the-ordinary for an
Aaron Reynolds wrote:
couple of the mean dusties I'm talking about (plus some not-so-bad ones):
http://aaronreynolds.ca/albums/PDML/dust.jpg
Is this out-of-the-ordinary for an *ist D?
It's out of the ordinary for mine. I'm not particularly attentive to
dust, and often have to change
I had two - maybe three - dust spots on my first istDS.
Shel
[Original Message]
From: Aaron Reynolds
Here's a chunk out of the middle of a file, unresized, unsharpened,
uncorrected, compressed a little more for the web. It clearly shows a
couple of the mean dusties I'm talking about
Dust? Me thinks hot pixels.
Toine
On 3/30/06, Aaron Reynolds [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
Here's a chunk out of the middle of a file, unresized, unsharpened,
uncorrected, compressed a little more for the web. It clearly shows a
couple of the mean dusties I'm talking about (plus some not-so-bad
On 30 Mar 2006 at 8:46, Aaron Reynolds wrote:
Here's a chunk out of the middle of a file, unresized, unsharpened,
uncorrected, compressed a little more for the web. It clearly shows a
couple of the mean dusties I'm talking about (plus some not-so-bad
ones):
Hmm, those don't look like any dust spots I've seen ...
Shel
[Original Message]
From: Aaron Reynolds
http://aaronreynolds.ca/albums/PDML/dust.jpg
Is this out-of-the-ordinary for an *ist D?
On 3/30/06, Aaron Reynolds [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
Here's a chunk out of the middle of a file, unresized, unsharpened,
uncorrected, compressed a little more for the web. It clearly shows a
couple of the mean dusties I'm talking about (plus some not-so-bad
ones):
On Mar 30, 2006, at 9:08 AM, David Savage wrote:
I can't see any dust. Just a some hot pixels.
Is that what those are?
Why do they go away when blown with a blower brush?
-Aaron
On 30 Mar 2006 at 22:08, David Savage wrote:
I can't see any dust. Just a some hot pixels.
Maybe it's pixel dust :-)
Sorry.
Rob Studdert
HURSTVILLE AUSTRALIA
Tel +61-2-9554-4110
UTC(GMT) +10 Hours
[EMAIL PROTECTED]
http://members.ozemail.com.au/~distudio/publications/
Pentax user since
On 30 Mar 2006 at 9:11, Aaron Reynolds wrote:
On Mar 30, 2006, at 9:08 AM, David Savage wrote:
I can't see any dust. Just a some hot pixels.
Is that what those are?
Why do they go away when blown with a blower brush?
Their intensity is a function of exposure time and ISO. High ISO
On Mar 30, 2006, at 9:19 AM, Rob Studdert wrote:
Their intensity is a function of exposure time and ISO. High ISO and
long
exposure times (under 1/4 with NR off) providing the combination most
likely to
shot them in all their glory.
Hrm. I'd say 90% of what I shot was ISO 1600, 1/500 -
On 3/30/06, Aaron Reynolds [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
On Mar 30, 2006, at 9:08 AM, David Savage wrote:
I can't see any dust. Just a some hot pixels.
Is that what those are?
Why do they go away when blown with a blower brush?
-Aaron
Maybe it helps to cool the sensor?
:-)
I don't know
On 3/30/06, Rob Studdert [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
On 30 Mar 2006 at 22:08, David Savage wrote:
I can't see any dust. Just a some hot pixels.
Maybe it's pixel dust :-)
Sorry.
No your not.
Dave :-)
--
All I ask is the chance to prove that money can't make me happy. -
Spike Milligan
Yep. Hot pixels in the one shot, dust in the other.
-- Original message --
From: Rob Studdert [EMAIL PROTECTED]
On 30 Mar 2006 at 8:46, Aaron Reynolds wrote:
Here's a chunk out of the middle of a file, unresized, unsharpened,
uncorrected, compressed a
I've gotten into the habit of holding the DS level or face-down to avoid
dust.
It's happened twice and the results aren't what I want from a
good camera.
Sometimes the dust, when working in a dusty environment, will
even migrate up to the focusing screen.
dustproblems ? (WasRE: *ist D vs DS2, some questions)
I've gotten into the habit of holding the DS level or face-down to avoid
dust.
It's happened twice and the results aren't what I want from a
good camera.
Sometimes the dust, when working in a dusty environment
Poping in late on this one.
I don't see any dust Aaron, but i see 1 bad pixel, upper left.
Dust on my sensors shows up as dark grayish blobs. A good hurricane
blow seems to work best.
FWIW i seem to have more dust problems on the D than with the Nikons.
Dave
Here's a chunk out of the
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Poping in late on this one.
I don't see any dust Aaron, but i see 1 bad pixel, upper left.
Dust on my sensors shows up as dark grayish
-- how does one get these bad pixels in the first place, and
how does one get rid of them?
-Aaron
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From: David J Brooks [EMAIL PROTECTED]
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David J Brooks wrote:
Poping in late on this one.
Does that mean you're going to be pontificating?
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From: David J Brooks [EMAIL PROTECTED]
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My D you say.
I have never noticed them before,but then it might have something to do
On 30/3/06, William Robb, discombobulated, unleashed:
Some people are looking for problems, and find them.
Others aren't, and don't.
Amen.
Only after I started contributing to Alamy did I start to see more dust
than I cared for. I hate looking too closely, but their regs mean I
scour each pic
Quoting Mark Roberts [EMAIL PROTECTED]:
David J Brooks wrote:
Poping in late on this one.
Does that mean you're going to be pontificating?
Hey, not in front of the ladies, eh.:-)
Dave
Equine Photography in York Region
Poping in late on this one.
Does that mean you're going to be pontificating?
I see.
Cheers,
Cotty
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I avoid it?
-Aaron
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My D you say.
I have never noticed them before,but then it might
That's theologically possible.
-- Original message --
From: Mark Roberts [EMAIL PROTECTED]
David J Brooks wrote:
Poping in late on this one.
Does that mean you're going to be pontificating?
So does that mean it's permanent and that no one knows where they come from?
-Aaron
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I
.
Tom C.
From: William Robb [EMAIL PROTECTED]
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To: pentax-discuss@pdml.net
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Date: Thu, 30 Mar 2006 06:25:12 -0600
- Original Message - From: Tim Øsleby
Subject: Why dustproblems
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
From: Mark Roberts [EMAIL PROTECTED]
David J Brooks wrote:
Poping in late on this one.
Does that mean you're going to be pontificating?
That's theologically possible.
...if you follow the PDML religiously.
Cotty wrote:
Poping in late on this one.
Does that mean you're going to be pontificating?
I see.
Careful. You don't want to break one of the cardinal rules of the list
here.
I just hope his monolog won't be ROME ing all over the place.
Kenneth Waller
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Subject: Re: Why dustproblems ? (WasRE: *ist D vs DS2, some questions)
That's theologically possible.
-- Original message
Mark Roberts wrote:
Cotty wrote:
Poping in late on this one.
Does that mean you're going to be pontificating?
I see.
Careful. You don't want to break one of the cardinal rules of the list
here.
oh, God not again!
--
Christian
http://photography.skofteland.net
Poping in late on this one.
Does that mean you're going to be pontificating?
That's theologically possible.
...if you follow the PDML religiously.
Even with a canon.
Cheers,
Cotty
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Poping in late on this one.
Does that mean you're going to be pontificating?
I see.
Careful. You don't want to break one of the cardinal rules of the list
here.
Don't make me cross.
Cheers,
Cotty
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Cardinal rules? That's a bunch of Bull.
Tom C.
From: Mark Roberts [EMAIL PROTECTED]
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To: pentax-discuss@pdml.net
Subject: Re: Why dustproblems ? (WasRE: *ist D vs DS2, some questions)
Date: Thu, 30 Mar 2006 11:33:45 -0500
Cotty wrote:
Poping in late
Poping in late on this one.
Does that mean you're going to be pontificating?
I see.
Careful. You don't want to break one of the cardinal rules of the list
here.
oh, God not again!
Yeah, come papal, leave it alone!
Cheers,
Cotty
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This will probably leave some people on the list cross.
Kenneth Waller
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From: Cotty [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: Re: Why dustproblems ? (WasRE: *ist D vs DS2, some questions)
Poping in late on this one.
Does that mean you're going to be pontificating
Poping in late on this one.
Does that mean you're going to be pontificating?
That's theologically possible.
...if you follow the PDML religiously.
Even with a canon.
This will probably leave some people on the list cross.
I just hope his monolog
Cotty wrote:
Poping in late on this one.
Does that mean you're going to be pontificating?
That's theologically possible.
...if you follow the PDML religiously.
Even with a canon.
...using Pentax lenses that have been altared to fit.
Funny, I was just thinking the same thing. I'm looking all over for
dust spots (look like your example) and only seeing some bad pixels -
which would show up in almost every frame.
--
Bruce
Thursday, March 30, 2006, 6:02:12 AM, you wrote:
RS On 30 Mar 2006 at 8:46, Aaron Reynolds wrote:
At 08:29 AM 30/03/2006 , Aaron wrote:
So does that mean it's permanent and that no one knows where they come from?
Sensor was made that way. Most hot pixels are mapped out in the firmware
but a few week/hotter pixels tend to sneak through and show up with longer
exposures and higher ISO's.
Poping in late on this one.
Does that mean you're going to be pontificating?
That's theologically possible.
...if you follow the PDML religiously.
Even with a canon.
...using Pentax lenses that have been altared to fit.
This is true, I confess.
Cheers,
Cotty
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Kenneth Waller wrote:
This will probably leave some people on the list cross.
not another one of those excruciating pun threads
Poping in late on this one.
Does that mean you're going to be pontificating?
That's theologically possible.
...if you follow the PDML religiously.
Even with a canon.
...using Pentax lenses that have been altared to fit.
This is true, I confess.
Bull.
? (WasRE: *ist D vs DS2, some questions)
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At 08:29 AM 30/03/2006 , Aaron wrote:
So does that mean it's permanent and that no one knows where they come from?
Sensor was made that way. Most hot pixels are mapped out
Interesting. So hot pixels show as a sharp spot with a hot frige and
dust shows as and out of focus spot? Makes sense to me once I think
about it.
graywolf
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AR But am I right in thinking that if I am not seeing them now they will not
develop later?
AR -Aaron
AR -Original Message-
AR From: Powell Hargrave [EMAIL PROTECTED]
AR Subj: Re: Why dustproblems ? (WasRE: *ist D vs DS2, some questions)
AR Date: Thu Mar 30, 2006 1:28 pm
as yet, and I don't want to. How do I
avoid it?
-Aaron
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From: David J Brooks [EMAIL PROTECTED]
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My D you say.
I have never noticed
On 30 Mar 2006 at 11:00, Aaron Reynolds wrote:
Yes, I've been cloning these spots out of about 2000 pictures -- I meant is
there anything that can be done to the camera to get rid of them, or is it a
permanent problem? And how do they happen?
It's pretty much permanent, some other camera
that if I am not seeing them now
they will not develop later?
AR -Aaron
AR -Original Message-
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questions)
AR Date: Thu Mar 30, 2006 1:28 pm
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- Original Message -
From: Rob Studdert
Subject: Re: Why dustproblems ? (WasRE: *ist D vs DS2, some questions)
On 30 Mar 2006 at 6:25, William Robb wrote:
Some people are looking for problems, and find them.
Others aren't, and don't.
I often only find I have dust problems after
But whats bad about this whole thread from Aaron, is it was when he
borrowed my D last year for the Blue Jays shoots.
I thought my camera was safe.:-(
Dave
Quoting Rob Studdert [EMAIL PROTECTED]:
On 30 Mar 2006 at 11:00, Aaron Reynolds wrote:
Yes, I've been cloning these spots out of about
On Mar 30, 2006, at 7:54 PM, David J Brooks wrote:
But whats bad about this whole thread from Aaron, is it was when he
borrowed my D last year for the Blue Jays shoots.
I thought my camera was safe.:-(
Now now, Dave, it came like that from Pentax -- that's what the nice
people on the PDML
. Digital dust is easier to remove
and as I travel with a small laptop I pick it up within a day.
Leon
http://www.bluering.org.au
http://www.bluering.org.au/leon
William Robb wrote:
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