From: Kenneth Waller [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Date: 2006/03/21 Tue PM 09:52:49 GMT
To: pentax-discuss@pdml.net
Subject: Re: CRASH! Always Wear Your Seat Belt ...
what? a discussion of car chases with no mention of Bullitt?
for shame
Or French Connection?
Bullitt was state of the art
-
From: Shel Belinkoff [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: 20 March 2006 19:26
To: pentax-discuss@pdml.net
Subject: Re: CRASH! Always Wear Your Seat Belt ...
Thank, Juan ... I just checked my NetFlix queue. Shipping
today is
CRASH LOL
http://www.netflix.com/MovieDisplay?movieid=404309
Don't know if I posted it here, but CRASH was the next film in my NetFlix
queue, and it shipped earlier today. I don't use Blockbuster at all -
never had, never will.
Shel
[Original Message]
From: Aaron Reynolds
If you haven't seen it, rent the David Cronenberg Crash from a few years
I'm glad to here you're OK, as the survivor of a major accident on a
motorcycle I wish you a speedy full recovery
John Whittingham
Technician
you can't be optimistic with a misty optic
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From: Shel Belinkoff [EMAIL PROTECTED]
To: pentax-discuss@pdml.net
From: Aaron Reynolds [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Date: 2006/03/21 Tue AM 07:12:00 GMT
To: pentax-discuss@pdml.net
Subject: Re: CRASH! Always Wear Your Seat Belt ...
If you haven't seen it, rent the David Cronenberg Crash from a few years back
(though not from Blockbuster, which carries
From: Bob W [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Date: 2006/03/21 Tue AM 08:16:00 GMT
To: pentax-discuss@pdml.net
Subject: RE: CRASH! Always Wear Your Seat Belt ...
That's a great film. I saw it kind of by accident. A friend turned up
wanting to go to the cinema, so we chose Crash, neither of us having
I've put the book on my to-read list. Thanks, Mike.
-Aaron
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From: mike wilson [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subj: Re: Re: CRASH! Always Wear Your Seat Belt ...
Date: Tue Mar 21, 2006 10:00 am
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To: pentax-discuss@pdml.net
From: Aaron Reynolds [EMAIL PROTECTED
On Mar 21, 2006, at 9:50 AM, Larry Levy wrote:
In actuality, the driver swerved the car in order to miss a dog
that decided to cross the road in front of him. Unfortunately,
while the car swerved, the telephone poll adamantly refused to move
and the result was a crash. Must have been the
On Mar 21, 2006, at 5:11 AM, mike wilson wrote:
I've read a lot of negative remarks about the film in various places.
Many Americans don't like it - it certainly doesn't encourage me to
visit LA.
You're talking about the other Crash -- the one that won the Oscar a
few weeks back. Shel is
On Mar 21, 2006, at 8:02 AM, Shel Belinkoff wrote:
Mike, to which Crash movie are you referring. There was one by David
Cronenberg
http://www.netflix.com/MovieDisplay?movieid=404309
and the more recent one
http://www.netflix.com/MovieDisplay?movieid=70023961 with Sandra
Bullock
and
Yes, the Cronenberg Crash is due to arrive today, although I did see the
other one, and thought it was a good movie even though some of the
characters were a little stereotyped. It was somewhat reminiscent of
Altman's Short Cuts.
Shel
[Original Message]
From: Aaron Reynolds
I've read a
Mike, to which Crash movie are you referring. There was one by David
Cronenberg
http://www.netflix.com/MovieDisplay?movieid=404309
and the more recent one
http://www.netflix.com/MovieDisplay?movieid=70023961 with Sandra Bullock
and friends.
Shel
[Original Message]
From: mike wilson
On Mar 21, 2006, at 3:24 AM, Shel Belinkoff wrote:
Don't know if I posted it here, but CRASH was the next film in my
NetFlix
queue, and it shipped earlier today.
You did post that -- I thought you meant the other Crash, the one that
just won some Oscars.
-Aaron
Ken in a fit of perception mused:
(it was hit by a telephone pole).
Hey Larry, any idea how fast the pole was movin?
I was wondering if anyone would catch that.
In actuality, the driver swerved the car in order to miss a dog that decided
to cross the road in front of him. Unfortunately,
From: Aaron Reynolds [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Date: 2006/03/21 Tue PM 02:35:16 GMT
To: pentax-discuss@pdml.net
Subject: Re: CRASH! Always Wear Your Seat Belt ...
On Mar 21, 2006, at 5:11 AM, mike wilson wrote:
I've read a lot of negative remarks about the film in various places.
Many
From: Aaron Reynolds [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Date: 2006/03/21 Tue PM 02:45:36 GMT
To: pentax-discuss@pdml.net
Subject: Re: CRASH! Always Wear Your Seat Belt ...
On Mar 21, 2006, at 8:02 AM, Shel Belinkoff wrote:
Mike, to which Crash movie are you referring. There was one by David
On Mar 21, 2006, at 4:11, mike wilson wrote:
From: Bob W [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Date: 2006/03/21 Tue AM 08:16:00 GMT
To: pentax-discuss@pdml.net
Subject: RE: CRASH! Always Wear Your Seat Belt ...
That's a great film. I saw it kind of by accident. A friend turned up
wanting to go to the cinema, so
I've only seen about six of Cronenberg's pictures, and liked every one of
them. Crash had been in my queue for some time, and I found it ironic that
it came up for delivery on the day of my crash.
Shel
[Original Message]
From: Aaron Reynolds
Shel, if you like Cronenberg you are in for
I have very eclectic tastes - there are very few things in which I'm not
interested. As for car crash movies, you've gotta see the ~original~ Gone
in Sixty Seconds by H.B. Halicki. It contains, perhaps and arguably, the
best car chase in filmdom history, led by the amazing Mustang, Eleanor.
That must be some chase, if it can compare to the chase in Ronin
(Personal favourite, along with the opening chase in The Transporter,
which wins the award for coolest chase with stunts)
-Adam
Shel Belinkoff wrote:
I have very eclectic tastes - there are very few things in which I'm not
It's more spectacular than the chase in Ronin. But it still doesn't
stack up to the Minis in the original Italian Job. :-)
-Mat
On 3/21/06, Adam Maas [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
That must be some chase, if it can compare to the chase in Ronin
(Personal favourite, along with the opening chase in
On 21/3/06, Shel Belinkoff, discombobulated, unleashed:
I've only seen about six of Cronenberg's pictures, and liked every one of
them. Crash had been in my queue for some time, and I found it ironic that
it came up for delivery on the day of my crash.
Scanners!
;-)
Cheers,
Cotty
Videodrome, The Fly, Dead Ringers, The Dead Zone
Shel
[Original Message]
From: Cotty
Scanners!
I've read a lot of negative remarks about the film in various
places. Many Americans don't like it - it certainly doesn't
encourage me to visit LA.
I lived in Lost Angeles for four years. I thought Crash was
absolutely brilliant. Hadn't heard of it at all when it released last
year, my
Naked Lunch, Spider, eXistenZ
DagT
Den 21. mar. 2006 kl. 18.10 skrev Shel Belinkoff:
Videodrome, The Fly, Dead Ringers, The Dead Zone
Shel
[Original Message]
From: Cotty
Scanners!
On one of the movie databases, the film gets about a 50/50 Love/Hate ratio.
That says - to me - that it's a very strong film as it gets people to think
enough to strongly polarize opinions. The fact that many Americans don't
like it suggests that it may well be a movie worth seeing.
Shel
Well, I did say arguably ;-)) Just about the entire movie is one long car
chase. Cast includes Parnelli Jones and some other racers.
While the chase in Ronin was very exciting, I didn't care for it on
technical grounds. I believe special effects were used. My favorite car
chase is the one in
From: Shel Belinkoff [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Date: 2006/03/21 Tue PM 04:05:30 GMT
To: pentax-discuss@pdml.net
Subject: Re: Re: CRASH! Always Wear Your Seat Belt ...
I have very eclectic tastes - there are very few things in which I'm not
interested. As for car crash movies, you've gotta see
From: Cotty [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Date: 2006/03/21 Tue PM 04:56:18 GMT
To: pentax list pentax-discuss@pdml.net
Subject: Re: CRASH! Always Wear Your Seat Belt ...
On 21/3/06, Shel Belinkoff, discombobulated, unleashed:
I've only seen about six of Cronenberg's pictures, and liked every one
On Tue, Mar 21, 2006 at 08:20:45AM -0600, Charles Robinson wrote:
On Mar 21, 2006, at 4:11, mike wilson wrote:
The recent one (deals with racism in L.A. and was all over the Oscars
this year) and one from a few years back, which dealt with people
who, if I've heard correctly, derive a
On Tue, Mar 21, 2006 at 06:11:49PM +, mike wilson wrote:
From: Cotty [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Date: 2006/03/21 Tue PM 04:56:18 GMT
To: pentax list pentax-discuss@pdml.net
Subject: Re: CRASH! Always Wear Your Seat Belt ...
On 21/3/06, Shel Belinkoff, discombobulated, unleashed
Hi Shel,
Glad to hear you are ok. Here in Portugal the use of seat belt is obliged by
law and the penalty when you don't use it is severe. In spite of that we
have the first place in deads by accident in the road. I drive almost 60
000Kms a year and I sure know the importance of using seat belt,
My english sometimes crashes. I meant you stay well.
-Mensagem original-
De: Manuel Nagalhães [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Enviada: terça-feira, 21 de Março de 2006 19:05
Para: pentax-discuss@pdml.net
Assunto: RE: CRASH! Always Wear Your Seat Belt ...
Hi Shel,
Glad to hear you are ok
In response, Bob Shell queried
In actuality, the driver swerved the car in order to miss a dog
that decided to cross the road in front of him. Unfortunately,
while the car swerved, the telephone poll adamantly refused to move
and the result was a crash. Must have been the pole's fault.
I thought there was no effects cheating in Ronin...
-Aaron
-Original Message-
From: Shel Belinkoff [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subj: Re: CRASH! Always Wear Your Seat Belt ...
Date: Tue Mar 21, 2006 1:02 pm
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To: pentax-discuss@pdml.net
Well, I did say arguably ;-)) Just about
I've been lead to believe otherwise. Could be wrong.
Shel
[Original Message]
From: Aaron Reynolds
I thought there was no effects cheating in Ronin...
what? a discussion of car chases with no mention of Bullitt?
for shame
That's a great film. I saw it kind of by accident. A friend
turned up
wanting to go to the cinema, so we chose Crash, neither of
us having
heard of it before. I was in a daze when I came out. A really great
film. I hope your life is not like that, Shel!
--
Cheers,
Bob
Doug Brewer wrote:
what? a discussion of car chases with no mention of Bullitt?
Or The French Connection!
From: John Francis [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Date: 2006/03/21 Tue PM 06:20:49 GMT
To: pentax-discuss@pdml.net
Subject: Re: Re: CRASH! Always Wear Your Seat Belt ...
On Tue, Mar 21, 2006 at 06:11:49PM +, mike wilson wrote:
From: Cotty [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Date: 2006/03/21 Tue PM 04
what? a discussion of car chases with no mention of Bullitt?
for shame
Or French Connection?
Kenneth Waller
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From: Doug Brewer [EMAIL PROTECTED]
To: pentax-discuss@pdml.net
Sent: Tuesday, March 21, 2006 3:05 PM
Subject: Re: CRASH! Always Wear Your Seat Belt
! Always Wear Your Seat Belt
Ken in a fit of perception mused:
(it was hit by a telephone pole).
Hey Larry, any idea how fast the pole was movin?
I was wondering if anyone would catch that.
In actuality, the driver swerved the car in order to miss a dog that
decided to cross the road in front
On 21/3/06, Shel Belinkoff, discombobulated, unleashed:
My favorite car
chase is the one in The French Connection.
Not bad, but Bullitt does it for me ;-)
Cheers,
Cotty
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On Tue, Mar 21, 2006 at 08:53:30PM +, mike wilson wrote:
From: John Francis [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Date: 2006/03/21 Tue PM 06:20:49 GMT
To: pentax-discuss@pdml.net
Subject: Re: Re: CRASH! Always Wear Your Seat Belt ...
On Tue, Mar 21, 2006 at 06:11:49PM +, mike wilson wrote
On 20/3/06, Shel Belinkoff, discombobulated, unleashed:
I was slowly driving to a friend's house up in the Berkeley Hills. A
woman, seemingly impaired in some way, drove into my lane and crashed
head-on into me. She wasn't wearing her seat belt, and was driven to the
hospital by an ambulance.
I'm going to be stiff and sore tomorrow. Trying to keep the shoulder
muscles limber - the paramedic said that's where I should expect stiffness
and pain. Don't know how much the extra movement will help
Shel
[Original Message]
From: Cotty
Shel Belinkoff wrote:
I was slowly
Hi!
I was slowly driving to a friend's house up in the Berkeley Hills. A
woman, seemingly impaired in some way, drove into my lane and crashed
head-on into me. She wasn't wearing her seat belt, and was driven to the
hospital by an ambulance. She's badly bruised as her head went into the
From: Shel Belinkoff [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Date: 2006/03/20 Mon AM 08:35:18 GMT
To: pentax-discuss@pdml.net
Subject: CRASH! Always Wear Your Seat Belt ...
I was slowly driving to a friend's house up in the Berkeley Hills. A
woman, seemingly impaired in some way, drove into my lane and
berkeley... impared woman... i still think they should legalize it.
glad that you are OK though.
best,
mishka
On 3/20/06, Shel Belinkoff [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
I was slowly driving to a friend's house up in the Berkeley Hills. A
woman, seemingly impaired in some way, drove into my lane and
Absolutely. Really made my day!
I don't know for sure how seriously hurt the driver of the other car was.
She didn't seek to be too bad, but I wasn't there when she was removed from
the car and examined by the paramedics. It did take a while to get her
out, and she was examined for quite some
Shel Belinkoff wrote:
I was slowly driving to a friend's house up in the Berkeley Hills. A
woman, seemingly impaired in some way, drove into my lane and crashed
head-on into me. She wasn't wearing her seat belt, and was driven to the
hospital by an ambulance. She's badly bruised as her head
Hi,
The car cannot be driven. You're right about the inconvenience.
Shel
[Original Message]
From: E.R.N. Reed
Sorry to hear of your accident; glad you're not seriously hurt. Did your
car survive? I know, even though you've escaped serious injuries, you're
in for serious
On 3/20/06, Shel Belinkoff [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
The car cannot be driven. You're right about the inconvenience.
The car gave its life to protect yours. At least that's the way I look
at it. :-)
Glad you're okay. Cars can be replaced. Shel's can't. :-)
-Mat
Wow Shel,
You've got to stop living dangerously.
Hope they can repair the car,
but Mat's sentiments are appropriate.
Cars can be replaced.
Regards, Bob S.
On 3/20/06, Mat Maessen [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
On 3/20/06, Shel Belinkoff [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
The car cannot be driven. You're
Yep - that's what the cops and the paramedics said --- I was lucky, in
several ways, actually. Felt OK about that last night. Today I start
dealing with the inconvenience ... I'm procrastinating.
Shel
[Original Message]
From: Mat Maessen
The car cannot be driven. You're right about
I suppose it could be repaired, but it may not be worth it for so old a
car. More than likely I'll just eat the loss.
Shel
[Original Message]
From: Bob Sullivan
Wow Shel,
You've got to stop living dangerously.
Hope they can repair the car,
but Mat's sentiments are appropriate.
Cars
Shel,
Glad you survived the crash with minmal human body damage.
After finally getting the replacement DS, you'd want to be able to actually
have a lot more time and free movement to use it and develop the type of
expertise you've accumulated with its film ancestors.
Seat belts save more
Shel,
So sorry to hear about your accident. I hope that you are ok and that
your car will be sorted out in a reasonable manner.
--
Bruce
Monday, March 20, 2006, 12:35:18 AM, you wrote:
SB I was slowly driving to a friend's house up in the Berkeley Hills. A
SB woman, seemingly impaired in
I'm glad you're OK Shel!
We had a rollover accident about 3 years ago. Only doing 35 miles an hour
in a blizzard (unbeknownst on black ice) when the car in front of me decided
to come to a dead stop on the interstate with semi-trailers coming up behind
me. We were all OK as we were weraing
2006/3/20, Shel Belinkoff [EMAIL PROTECTED]:
I was slowly driving to a friend's house up in the Berkeley Hills. A
woman, seemingly impaired in some way, drove into my lane and crashed
head-on into me.
I'm glad to read that you're basically OK.
I hope you recover well.
As a piece of advice,
On 3/20/06, Shel Belinkoff [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
I was slowly driving to a friend's house up in the Berkeley Hills. A
woman, seemingly impaired in some way, drove into my lane and crashed
head-on into me. She wasn't wearing her seat belt, and was driven to the
hospital by an ambulance.
On 20/3/06, Shel Belinkoff, discombobulated, unleashed:
Absolutely. Really made my day!
I don't know for sure how seriously hurt the driver of the other car was.
She didn't seek to be too bad, but I wasn't there when she was removed from
the car and examined by the paramedics. It did take a
Well, yes, I suppose so ... but y'know, I'm not even thinking about that
right now. Anyway, apart from the loss of an old car and some out of
pocket expenses, what substantial damages are there?
Shel
[Original Message]
From: Cotty
If she came at you head on in your lane, sounds like you
As a piece of advice, be sure you pay these mild inconvenience and
sourness of the next few days a close attention.
My wife had a similar story about ten years ago, and she also felt
basically OK at first. Then she's had violent arm, neck and headaches
during years (slightly displaced vertebrae,
On 20/3/06, Shel Belinkoff, discombobulated, unleashed:
Well, yes, I suppose so ... but y'know, I'm not even thinking about that
right now. Anyway, apart from the loss of an old car and some out of
pocket expenses, what substantial damages are there?
My wife was waiting to turn right
Yuck.
Glad to hear you weren't hurt. I hope the other person wasn't hurt
too badly, and that you can obtain some compensation for your losses.
Pain in the butt about the car.
About noon yesterday as I was working at my desk, I heard a horn and
the sickening sound of a collision on the
Sorry to hear that Shel--happy to hear you didn't get hurt too much.
Hope her insurace replaces your car, at the very least.
j
On 3/20/06, Shel Belinkoff [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
I was slowly driving to a friend's house up in the Berkeley Hills. A
woman, seemingly impaired in some way, drove
Me to are glad you are basically OK.
No doubt, seat belts are life savers.
Tim
Mostly harmless (just plain Norwegian)
Never underestimate the power of stupidity in large crowds
(Very freely after Arthur C. Clarke, or some other clever guy)
-Original Message-
From: Shel Belinkoff
Cotty wrote:
I would have thought that in the litigation-ridden north American
society that you live in, it was de riguer for auto accident
compensation claims to be doles out like corn dogs at the big game!
Mmm... I love corn dogs. Seriously! The jalapeno and cheese stuffed kind.
(how'd
On 20/3/06, Tom C, discombobulated, unleashed:
Mmm... I love corn dogs. Seriously! The jalapeno and cheese stuffed kind.
(how'd you know what corn dogs are?)
I grew up in the SF bay area!
Cheers,
Cotty
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||=|
(it was hit by a telephone pole).
Hey Larry, any idea how fast the pole was movin?
Kenneth Waller
- Original Message -
From: Larry Levy [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: Re: CRASH! Always Wear Your Seat Belt ..
Shel,
Glad you survived the crash with minmal human body damage.
After
And all I'm saying is let's see what kind of time and trouble I have, and
what trauma I've suffered. I'm sure the car will be covered, and if there
are any other problems, I'll be sure to let the insurance company know.
Unlike others, I'm not the kind of person who thinks first or foremost
about
On 3/20/06, Shel Belinkoff [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
And all I'm saying is let's see what kind of time and trouble I have, and
what trauma I've suffered. I'm sure the car will be covered, and if there
are any other problems, I'll be sure to let the insurance company know.
Unlike others, I'm
It was a little less than 24-hours ago, yesterday afternoon. I'm spending
the day taking stock of my situation, looking for transportation, nursing a
sick cat, and trying to get back to a more tranquil state. I've got work
that ~must~ be done, and some things on the front burner for tomorrow.
I don't know about the US, but here in Canada, the limitation period
(ie: the time in which a law suit must be commenced) for auto
accidents is two years. I don't think it would be a bad thing to see
how things sort out before making any decisions. Worry about yourself
first - you've got
On 3/20/06, Patrice LACOUTURE [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
In my wife's case, something petty and unexpected happened. Right
after her accident, she went to see a doctor, who examined her
quickly, said she had nothing to worry about, and prescribed a few
days of medical leave to take a rest. As
- Original Message -
From: frank theriault
Subject: Re: CRASH! Always Wear Your Seat Belt ...
I feel badly for the lady involved in your collision who was not
wearing her seatbelt.
I think of it as Darwinism at work.
If yer too damned stupid to not buckle up, it hard to justify
Thank, Juan ... I just checked my NetFlix queue. Shipping today is
CRASH LOL
http://www.netflix.com/MovieDisplay?movieid=404309
I'm going to need a car before the insurance stuff is settled. Maybe I'll
have one today or tomorrow. Looking at a couple now.
Shel
[Original Message]
Glad you are okay, Shel.
Joe
Sorry to hear about that. Hope you're getting over what aches
and pains this might have caused.
Gautam
On 3/20/06, Shel Belinkoff [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
I was slowly driving to a friend's house up in the Berkeley Hills. A
woman, seemingly impaired in some way, drove into my lane and crashed
If you haven't seen it, rent the David Cronenberg Crash from a few years back
(though not from Blockbuster, which carries a comically edited version of the
film). It's creepy and eerie, and at times deliriously funny, if you only are
able to let yourself laugh at it.
It's mainly about people
On Mar 21, 2006, at 4:34 AM, frank theriault wrote:
While we're on a safety crusade, let me throw in that you cyclists out
there should always wear your helmets.
Seconded. It's actually required by law in this country for both
pushbikes and motorcycles, but I do occasionally see idiots not
On Mar 21, 2006, at 6:21 AM, Cotty wrote:
The 'damages' are offered as compensation for time and trouble, not to
mention the traumatic episode of the actual collision.
Down here the insurers will only pay for the damaged/written-off
vehicles. Any personal injury gets sorted out by ACC
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