Re: The Dog & Pony Show

2018-05-24 Thread John
Not just "like" a revolution, it WAS a revolution; although I think you're getting the cart before the horse. The revolution led to the breakup of AT rather than vice versa. Plus, there's a big difference in being a monopoly in an essential service and having a monopoly on a luxury product.

Re: The Dog & Pony Show

2018-05-23 Thread Gonz
Thats for sure. When AT was a monopoly, there was no innovation. The princess phone was their "innovation" Once they got broken up, it was like a revolution. On Wed, May 23, 2018 at 11:18 AM, William Robb wrote: > Their strategy appears to aim to be the last man

Re: The Dog & Pony Show

2018-05-23 Thread William Robb
Their strategy appears to aim to be the last man standing. I'm not sure how good it would be for the industry to only have one or two choices. Monopolies or near monopolies are never a good thing. bill On Tue, May 22, 2018, 11:39 PM Gonz, wrote: > That is A LOT of money.

Re: The Dog & Pony Show

2018-05-22 Thread Gonz
That is A LOT of money. It can only be good for the industry, the resulting tech war should bring some interesting new products. On Tue, May 22, 2018 at 10:28 PM, Bill wrote: > On 5/22/2018 9:17 PM, Gonz wrote: >> >> Wow, this is crazy... Sounds more than just

Re: The Dog & Pony Show

2018-05-22 Thread Bill
On 5/22/2018 9:17 PM, Gonz wrote: Wow, this is crazy... Sounds more than just throwing to see what sticks... I guess time will tell. https://petapixel.com/2018/05/22/sony-investing-9b-in-image-sensors-aims-to-be-top-camera-brand-by-2021/ They have a lot of money. It will be interesting to

Re: The Dog & Pony Show

2018-05-22 Thread Gonz
Wow, this is crazy... Sounds more than just throwing to see what sticks... I guess time will tell. https://petapixel.com/2018/05/22/sony-investing-9b-in-image-sensors-aims-to-be-top-camera-brand-by-2021/ On Thu, May 17, 2018 at 2:50 PM, Bill wrote: > On 5/17/2018

Re: The Dog & Pony Show

2018-05-19 Thread Steve Cottrell
On 18/5/18, Larry Colen, discombobulated, unleashed: >I'd love for them to take some of the Rokinon/Samyang primes, make them >weather sealed, and autofocus, maybe even HD coatings. My Rokinon >24/1.4 is a stellar lens for night photography. They've got a bunch of >other nice looking lenses

Re: The Dog & Pony Show

2018-05-18 Thread Subash Jeyan
On Fri, 18 May 2018 19:09:29 -0700 Larry Colen wrote: > Paul Stenquist wrote: > > Reworking old lens formulas might not work. The optimum image > > circle isn’t the same. And there’s something about the older lenses > > that causes fringing. Clean sheet new designs are probably

Re: The Dog & Pony Show

2018-05-18 Thread Larry Colen
Paul Stenquist wrote: Reworking old lens formulas might not work. The optimum image circle isn’t the same. And there’s something about the older lenses that causes fringing. Clean sheet new designs are probably a better direction. In my experience, the new zooms are better than most of the

Re: The Dog & Pony Show

2018-05-18 Thread Paul Stenquist
Reworking old lens formulas might not work. The optimum image circle isn’t the same. And there’s something about the older lenses that causes fringing. Clean sheet new designs are probably a better direction. In my experience, the new zooms are better than most of the A and FA primes. Paul >

Re: The Dog & Pony Show

2018-05-18 Thread Mark C
Gonz wrote: I think where Pentax is lacking is in a system. They last had a complete system back in the LX days. Unless you plan on using only zooms, their prime offerings are mostly still from the film era like the Limited series, or the DA lenses that can sometimes be used in FF. But say I

Re: The Dog & Pony Show

2018-05-18 Thread Gonz
Its true that my most used lenses are the 24-70 and the 70-200 modern DFA versions. I haven't acquired the 150-450, but I wonder how it would compare to modern versions of a 600. The old film era 600/4 seemed to have a little softness from reports I heard. I know that Nikon's and Canon's

Re: The Dog & Pony Show

2018-05-18 Thread Paul Stenquist
For me, the lack of primes isn’t an issue, although I would like to have some and believe they are coming. For 25 years I shot only primes, but today’s Pentax zooms are very good and are the equal of most primes. I’ll put the image quality of my D FA 150-450 up against the FA 600/4 any day. And

Re: The Dog & Pony Show

2018-05-18 Thread Gonz
True that. Pentax definitely is lower cost at or close to equal quality or performance (except for AF, where it still is behind). And that is the major reason I started with Pentax back in 1979, they were clearly more affordable and had a great reputation. I think where Pentax is lacking is in

Re: The Dog & Pony Show

2018-05-17 Thread Bill
On 5/17/2018 12:37 PM, Paul Stenquist wrote: I see some younger photographers who are making their initial purchase of pro-level gear going to Pentax. While I agree that Pentax will likely focus on pro and advanced amateur offerings, I think they can own the lower priced end of that niche.

Re: The Dog & Pony Show

2018-05-17 Thread Bill
On 5/17/2018 12:26 PM, Gonz wrote: I see your point Bill, and you arguments make a certain amount of sense as far as Ricoh's direction. But where I diverge in my opinion is the survival part. Granted there will always be that cadre of Pentax die hards, but as you can see from the average age

Re: The Dog & Pony Show

2018-05-17 Thread Paul Stenquist
I see some younger photographers who are making their initial purchase of pro-level gear going to Pentax. While I agree that Pentax will likely focus on pro and advanced amateur offerings, I think they can own the lower priced end of that niche. Pentax is a bargain. The K-1 isn’t quite the

Re: The Dog & Pony Show

2018-05-17 Thread Gonz
I see your point Bill, and you arguments make a certain amount of sense as far as Ricoh's direction. But where I diverge in my opinion is the survival part. Granted there will always be that cadre of Pentax die hards, but as you can see from the average age of pdml posters, its only going up,

Re: The Dog & Pony Show

2018-05-17 Thread Bill
On 5/17/2018 8:33 AM, Gonz wrote: Hmmm, I've been lusting over Fuji's stuff for a while now, maybe this is the push that I need. On the other hand, I read something like this: https://petapixel.com/2018/05/17/ricohs-new-camera-sdks-open-the-door-to-3rd-party-apps/ Which I've been advocating

Re: The Dog & Pony Show

2018-05-17 Thread Gonz
"Gonzosaurus"... I like that, sometimes I come into the office with a bit of T-Rex attitude after a bad nites sleep... everyone steers clear.. On Tue, May 15, 2018 at 3:56 PM, Steve Cottrell wrote: > On 14/5/18, Gonz, discombobulated, unleashed: > >>Thanks for the

Re: The Dog & Pony Show

2018-05-17 Thread Gonz
Hmmm, I've been lusting over Fuji's stuff for a while now, maybe this is the push that I need. On the other hand, I read something like this: https://petapixel.com/2018/05/17/ricohs-new-camera-sdks-open-the-door-to-3rd-party-apps/ Which I've been advocating for years now. There are few things

Re: The Dog & Pony Show

2018-05-15 Thread William Robb
On Tue, May 15, 2018 at 2:57 PM Steve Cottrell wrote: > On 14/5/18, Gonz, discombobulated, unleashed: > > >Thanks for the insightful commentary. Sounds bleak for the most part. > >I've been slowly coming to the conclusion that the Pentax ship is > >sinking and its time to

Re: The Dog & Pony Show

2018-05-15 Thread Steve Cottrell
On 14/5/18, Gonz, discombobulated, unleashed: >Thanks for the insightful commentary. Sounds bleak for the most part. >I've been slowly coming to the conclusion that the Pentax ship is >sinking and its time to board a new one. Don't know which one >however, but it seems that mirrorless is taking

Re: The Dog & Pony Show

2018-05-15 Thread Rob Studdert
They need to review their MF lens line-up as people are leaving the 645 line for the new boys on the block. I've now sold the majority of my K-mount kit, it's quite refreshing not to constrained however my new kit is quite limited in scope and will remain so for the foreseeable future, it's doing

Re: The Dog & Pony Show

2018-05-14 Thread Bill
On 5/14/2018 3:22 PM, Gonz wrote: Thanks for the insightful commentary. Sounds bleak for the most part. I've been slowly coming to the conclusion that the Pentax ship is sinking and its time to board a new one. That's not the message I got. The message I got is that Ricoh is in it for the

Re: The Dog & Pony Show

2018-05-14 Thread Gonz
Thanks for the insightful commentary. Sounds bleak for the most part. I've been slowly coming to the conclusion that the Pentax ship is sinking and its time to board a new one. Don't know which one however, but it seems that mirrorless is taking over to some degree. I would like to keep my best

Re: The Dog & Pony Show

2018-05-12 Thread Jan van Wijk
On Fri, 11 May 2018 17:18:42 -0600 Bill wrote: > > We discussed the changes from the K1 to the K1II. For practical > purposes there are three. The signal processor is all about cleaning up high > ISO signals. It should have little to no effect at low ISO, no matter what DPReview and

The Dog & Pony Show

2018-05-11 Thread Bill
The local pusher has their trade show running today and tomorrow. Being what as how there is some Pentax gear I am interested in at the moment, and having a few spare hours today, I found myself at their shop this afternoon. Things I have learned: I need to get out more. The last time I was