Re: White K2000 pics

2008-12-22 Thread m.9.wilson
John Sessoms jsessoms...@nc.rr.com wrote: Who on this list is going to buy a white K2000? Who on this list is going to buy a white K2000 BECAUSE it's white? They aren't intended for people such as those here. Ask Jostein to ask his wife and daughter what they think of it. Actually, he

Re: White K2000 pics

2008-12-22 Thread AlunFoto
LOL. Sorry, but according to my daughter, pink is out. Mike Wilsons' daughter, however... :-) My wife just groans and say; You want _me_ to consider a camera?!? Jostein 2008/12/22 m.9.wil...@ntlworld.com: John Sessoms jsessoms...@nc.rr.com wrote: Who on this list is going to buy a

Re: White K2000 pics

2008-12-22 Thread m.9.wilson
AlunFoto alunf...@gmail.com wrote: LOL. Sorry, but according to my daughter, pink is out. WOW. A whole industry, sunk. Mike Wilsons' daughter, however... :-) Isn't _that_ the truth... My wife just groans and say; You want _me_ to consider a camera?!? 8-))) (Did you tell her

Re: White K2000 pics

2008-12-22 Thread Joseph McAllister
On Dec 22, 2008, at 07:49 , m.9.wil...@ntlworld.com wrote: My wife just groans and say; You want _me_ to consider a camera?!? 8-))) (Did you tell her it was white?) Show her this - http://web.me.com/jomac/show.me/Blog/Entries/ 2008/12/22_In_it’s_Natural_Element.html Joseph McAllister

Re: White K2000 pics

2008-12-21 Thread AlunFoto
Sorry, John. I never intended to take you seriously. Apologies for launching you into an argument where you thought I did. And speaking of missing points, I think you refused to consider mine. More seriously, though, if you cling to a 20 year old Z-1p as your ideal camera, I do not understand why

Re: White K2000 pics

2008-12-21 Thread John Francis
On Sat, Dec 20, 2008 at 07:58:22PM -0500, John Sessoms wrote: I hope I'm wrong. But ... Who on this list is going to buy a white K2000? Who on this list is going to buy a white K2000 BECAUSE it's white? If Pentax's future lies with those of us on this list (and the like) then the company

RE: White K2000 pics

2008-12-20 Thread Bob W
Unfortunately for the climate modellers solar output went in the shitter with the current solar cycle and all of the common models assume a relatively stable solar output (since they're designed to model earth-based changes to the climate). Nobody except the historians have anything

Re: White K2000 pics

2008-12-20 Thread AlunFoto
2008/12/19 frank theriault knarftheria...@gmail.com: On Fri, Dec 19, 2008 at 4:43 AM, AlunFoto alunf...@gmail.com wrote: snip For my part, I like Pentax tools. snip That's a punch line waiting for a joke to set it up. I just haven't come up with that joke yet. You mean like, Be careful

Re: White K2000 pics

2008-12-20 Thread AlunFoto
2008/12/19 John Sessoms jsessoms...@nc.rr.com: I don't want to switch brands, but if Pentax continues on the course they're presently on, I may not have a choice. If it does turn out that way, I ain't going quietly. You know, What I really don't understand is why Köningsegg can not make me a

Re: White K2000 pics

2008-12-20 Thread Doug
On Dec 20, 2008, at 7:54 AM, AlunFoto wrote: Then I will go and join Doug Brewer's therapy group for excessive-compulsive use of commas. :-) Jostein Admitting you have a problem is the first step. -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net

Re: White K2000 pics

2008-12-20 Thread Steve Desjardins
Actually, it's Admitting, you have a problem, is the first step. Doug d...@alphoto.com 12/20/2008 11:19 AM On Dec 20, 2008, at 7:54 AM, AlunFoto wrote: Then I will go and join Doug Brewer's therapy group for excessive-compulsive use of commas. :-) Jostein Admitting you have a problem

Re: White K2000 pics

2008-12-20 Thread Ken Waller
Subject: Re: White K2000 pics 2008/12/19 John Sessoms jsessoms...@nc.rr.com: I don't want to switch brands, but if Pentax continues on the course they're presently on, I may not have a choice. If it does turn out that way, I ain't going quietly. You know, What I really don't understand is why

Re: White K2000 pics

2008-12-20 Thread Ken Waller
Oh, so the warming we're experiencing now has happened before. I wonder what caused those warming cooling periods thousands of years ago? Kenneth Waller http://www.tinyurl.com/272u2f - Original Message - From: Bob W p...@web-options.com Subject: RE: White K2000 pics Unfortunately

Re: White K2000 pics

2008-12-20 Thread Christian
Subject: RE: White K2000 pics Unfortunately for the climate modellers solar output went in the shitter with the current solar cycle and all of the common models assume a relatively stable solar output (since they're designed to model earth-based changes to the climate). Nobody except

Re: White K2000 pics

2008-12-20 Thread AlunFoto
we're experiencing now has happened before. I wonder what caused those warming cooling periods thousands of years ago? Kenneth Waller http://www.tinyurl.com/272u2f - Original Message - From: Bob W p...@web-options.com Subject: RE: White K2000 pics Unfortunately for the climate

Re: White K2000 pics

2008-12-20 Thread Sandy Harris
John Sessoms jsessoms...@nc.rr.com wrote: From Nikon we get the D3, D3x, and D700 From Canon we get EOS 5D, EOS 50D, ... even the EOS Rebels Most of those may be fine for pros, or even amateurs with a very serious interest and a big budget, but what about the rest of us? Both lines with a

Re: White K2000 pics

2008-12-20 Thread John Sessoms
From: Rick Womer John, I'm curious--what is missing from the lens roadmap that you would like? Rick 300 f/2.8 lenses I can use with my PZ-1P -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link

Re: White K2000 pics

2008-12-20 Thread pnstenquist
-- Original message -- From: John Sessoms jsessoms...@nc.rr.com From: Rick Womer John, I'm curious--what is missing from the lens roadmap that you would like? Rick 300 f/2.8 lenses I can use with my PZ-1P -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List

Re: White K2000 pics

2008-12-20 Thread Joseph McAllister
On Dec 20, 2008, at 16:12 , John Sessoms wrote: From: Rick Womer John, I'm curious--what is missing from the lens roadmap that you would like? Rick 300 f/2.8 lenses I can use with my PZ-1P All available on the used market. I'm surprised you don't already have the collection. :-)

Re: White K2000 pics

2008-12-20 Thread John Sessoms
From: AlunFoto 008/12/19 John Sessoms jsessoms...@nc.rr.com: I don't want to switch brands, but if Pentax continues on the course they're presently on, I may not have a choice. If it does turn out that way, I ain't going quietly. You know, What I really don't understand is why

Re: White K2000 pics

2008-12-20 Thread John Celio
Who on this list is going to buy a white K2000? Who on this list is going to buy a white K2000 BECAUSE it's white? If I had the money, I would. I think it's awesome. But it's a moot point, because I doubt I'll ever have the money. John -- http://www.neovenator.com

Re: White K2000 pics

2008-12-20 Thread Bruce Dayton
I have to say, since the K2000 is not a body I would be considering, because of feature set, the only reason I would buy one is because it is white. A very cool novelty in my mind. -- Best regards, Bruce Saturday, December 20, 2008, 6:33:55 PM, you wrote: Who on this list is going to buy a

Re: White K2000 pics

2008-12-20 Thread Joseph McAllister
On Dec 20, 2008, at 16:12 , John Sessoms wrote: lenses I can use with my PZ-1P Speaking of PZ-1p cameras, I have one, rarely use it. But I have 6 Varta 2CR5 Lithium batteries, unopened, that expire in June 2010. I doubt I'll use more than 1 or 2 burning through the rest of my film.

Re: White K2000 pics

2008-12-19 Thread AlunFoto
2008/12/18 Tim Øsleby maritim...@gmail.com: I think it sucks too. But my personal preference is not worth a rats ass when it comes to marketing. And that's what this camera is all about. Like it or not. Definately a like it or not issue. :-) Jostein -- http://www.alunfoto.no/galleri/

Re: White K2000 pics

2008-12-19 Thread AlunFoto
2008/12/18 Steve Desjardins desjard...@wlu.edu: OTOH, look how much fun we're having with this. I think it's really an Xmas present for the PDML. :-) Or maybe the rifle scopes were? :-) Jostein -- http://www.alunfoto.no/galleri/ http://alunfoto.blogspot.com -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail

Re: White K2000 pics

2008-12-19 Thread AlunFoto
Anything for a weird life Zaphod 2008/12/19 Tim Øsleby maritim...@gmail.com: Don't know if this poster is serious or not, but LOL http://forums.dpreview.com/forums/read.asp?forum=1034message=30387245 ( Possible to paint D80 camera body white? After seeing the Pentax k2000 in white...,)

Re: White K2000 pics

2008-12-19 Thread AlunFoto
Sorry, but that kind of rant makes me think your real issue may be located somewhere else than between motif and memory card. The camera is just a tool. If the tool doesn't fit your needs, find another one. For my part, I like Pentax tools. I just happen to be somewhat traditionalist when it

Re: White K2000 pics

2008-12-19 Thread AlunFoto
2008/12/18 frank theriault knarftheria...@gmail.com: On Thu, Dec 18, 2008 at 3:20 PM, John Celio n...@neovenator.com wrote: Then why don't you quit complaining, sell your obviously inadequate Pentax crap and go buy a Nikon. Give me two minutes. I just have to go make some popcorn, grab a

Re: White K2000 pics

2008-12-19 Thread Peter Alling
Hum, I don't know about you but I don't like to shoot my friends. Well at least not very often. -Original Message- From: AlunFoto alunf...@gmail.com Sent: Dec 19, 2008 4:21 AM To: Pentax-Discuss Mail List pdml@pdml.net Subject: Re: White K2000 pics 2008/12/18 Steve Desjardins desjard

Re: White K2000 pics

2008-12-19 Thread Luiz Felipe
Jostein, I agree with you 100% about tools. That said, a relationship that started (my personal case) 32 years ago may be better uderstood if we avoid the word tool. The moment I needed a different tool, I bought it. The moment I no longer needed the tool, I sold it. Some of the tools came

Re: White K2000 pics

2008-12-19 Thread Ken Waller
Message - From: AlunFoto alunf...@gmail.com Subject: Re: White K2000 pics 2008/12/18 frank theriault knarftheria...@gmail.com: On Thu, Dec 18, 2008 at 3:20 PM, John Celio n...@neovenator.com wrote: Then why don't you quit complaining, sell your obviously inadequate Pentax crap and go buy

Re: White K2000 pics

2008-12-19 Thread Christian
Ken Waller wrote: Beware of the global warming resulting from flamewars. BTW -we're in the process of getting 6 to 12 inches of globasl warming today (Detroit metro area). Woke up to 5 or 6 inches already on the ground and it hasn't stopped yet. Kenneth Waller http://www.tinyurl.com/272u2f

Re: White K2000 pics

2008-12-19 Thread AlunFoto
today (Detroit metro area). Woke up to 5 or 6 inches already on the ground and it hasn't stopped yet. Kenneth Waller http://www.tinyurl.com/272u2f - Original Message - From: AlunFoto alunf...@gmail.com Subject: Re: White K2000 pics 2008/12/18 frank theriault knarftheria

Re: White K2000 pics

2008-12-19 Thread John Sessoms
From: AlunFoto Sorry, but that kind of rant makes me think your real issue may be located somewhere else than between motif and memory card. The camera is just a tool. If the tool doesn't fit your needs, find another one. For my part, I like Pentax tools. I just happen to be somewhat

Re: White K2000 pics

2008-12-19 Thread John Sessoms
From: Christian Ken Waller wrote: Beware of the global warming resulting from flamewars. BTW -we're in the process of getting 6 to 12 inches of globasl warming today (Detroit metro area). Woke up to 5 or 6 inches already on the ground and it hasn't stopped yet. Kenneth Waller

Re: White K2000 pics

2008-12-19 Thread William Robb
- Original Message - From: AlunFoto Subject: Re: White K2000 pics Also beware of judging a global phenomenon from single-point observations. It's a reasonably big ball we're living on. :-) With an increasingly diminishing polar ice cap Apparently thats not caused by global

Re: White K2000 pics

2008-12-19 Thread frank theriault
On Fri, Dec 19, 2008 at 4:43 AM, AlunFoto alunf...@gmail.com wrote: snip For my part, I like Pentax tools. snip That's a punch line waiting for a joke to set it up. I just haven't come up with that joke yet. cheers, frank ;-) -- Sharpness is a bourgeois concept. -Henri Cartier-Bresson --

Re: White K2000 pics

2008-12-19 Thread Adam Maas
On Fri, Dec 19, 2008 at 4:57 PM, John Sessoms jsessoms...@nc.rr.com wrote: From: Christian Ken Waller wrote: Beware of the global warming resulting from flamewars. BTW -we're in the process of getting 6 to 12 inches of globasl warming today (Detroit metro area). Woke up to 5 or 6

Re: White K2000 pics

2008-12-19 Thread Rick Womer
John, I'm curious--what is missing from the lens roadmap that you would like? Rick http://photo.net/photos/RickW --- On Fri, 12/19/08, John Sessoms jsessoms...@nc.rr.com wrote: Pentax's lens road map OTOH just don't take me where I need to go. It ain't even on the same continent. But for

Re: White K2000 pics

2008-12-19 Thread Joseph McAllister
It was reported recently that contrary to a lame ass solar storm cycle peaking in 2012 as predicted, it look like it's going to be a historically ferocious one, capable of shutting down most satellites, maybe even the some electrical grids. And we only have two years to harden against it.

Re: White K2000 pics

2008-12-19 Thread PN Stenquist
Like much of the global warming info, the solar storm impact is speculative. Does it merit concern? Of course. Is the sky falling? Probably not. Paul On Dec 19, 2008, at 7:37 PM, Joseph McAllister wrote: It was reported recently that contrary to a lame ass solar storm cycle peaking in 2012

Re: White K2000 pics

2008-12-19 Thread Joseph McAllister
So I can put my foil covered umbrella away then? : ) Joseph McAllister pentax...@mac.com gallery.me.com/jomac web.me.com/jomac/show.me/ homepage.mac.com/jomac/ On Dec 19, 2008, at 18:23 , PN Stenquist wrote: Like much of the global warming info, the solar storm impact is speculative.

Re: White K2000 pics

2008-12-19 Thread PN Stenquist
No. You'll want to use that umbrella when shooting portraits where a bit of hard light is called for. Paul On Dec 19, 2008, at 10:32 PM, Joseph McAllister wrote: So I can put my foil covered umbrella away then? : ) Joseph McAllister pentax...@mac.com gallery.me.com/jomac

Re: White K2000 pics

2008-12-19 Thread Ken Waller
Or what's missing from the legions of older Pentax lenses? Kenneth Waller http://www.tinyurl.com/272u2f - Original Message - From: Rick Womer rwomer1...@yahoo.com Subject: Re: White K2000 pics John, I'm curious--what is missing from the lens roadmap that you would like? Rick

Re: White K2000 pics

2008-12-18 Thread Eactivist
In a message dated 12/17/2008 5:41:02 P.M. Pacific Standard Time, bruce.wal...@gmail.com writes: Steve Desjardins wrote: We all slip up and tell the truth sometimes. Sigh, ok, it's true. I read PDML for the pictures. -bmw LOL. Mark! Marnie aka Doe :-)

Re: White K2000 pics

2008-12-18 Thread John Sessoms
From: Bruce Dayton Why is liking a different color stupid? I don't get it. Many times when I want something, if it has color I may choose one. If you want to look like a 'Professional photographer', then black is in. But I'm saying that many people could care less about looking like a pro.

Re: White K2000 pics

2008-12-18 Thread John Sessoms
From: Tim ?sleby Sorry Marnie, but I think you are a few months older than the usual target segment for this white DSRL :-) You and I like discretion yes. But the younger generation definitely don't. In fact most of them have the quite opposite approach to life. They will grab anything,

Re: White K2000 pics

2008-12-18 Thread Joseph McAllister
On Dec 17, 2008, at 12:05 , Adam Maas wrote: == Cough, women aren't quite that stupid. So basically this is a stupid move on Pentax's part. (They could have spend the marketing money on something else. I'll be really surprised if it alone garners them any new sales.) Marnie

Re: White K2000 pics

2008-12-18 Thread Stan Halpin
for Pentax to increase sales Most likely aimed at those looking to make the jump to a DSLR. No one on the PDML would ever buy/use one - right? Kenneth Waller http://www.tinyurl.com/272u2f - Original Message - From: AlunFoto alunf...@gmail.com Subject: Re: White K2000 pics 2008/12/17 Joseph

Re: White K2000 pics

2008-12-18 Thread Peter Alling
over heat… -Original Message- From: AlunFoto alunf...@gmail.com Sent: Dec 17, 2008 2:36 PM To: Pentax-Discuss Mail List pdml@pdml.net Subject: Re: White K2000 pics 2008/12/17 Joseph McAllister pentax...@mac.com: In a bag of black marbles, a white marble stands out. Sorry, I just think

Re: White K2000 pics

2008-12-18 Thread Cotty
On 17/12/08, eactiv...@aol.com, discombobulated, unleashed: Cough, women aren't quite that stupid. Cough. http://tinyurl.com/3shlqw ;-) -- Cheers, Cotty ___/\__ || (O) | People, Places, Pastiche ||=|http://www.cottysnaps.com _ -- PDML

Re: White K2000 pics

2008-12-18 Thread Cotty
On 17/12/08, Tim Øsleby, discombobulated, unleashed: Young men tend to show their buttoms. Tim, I think you've just defined a whole new photography fashion. -- Cheers, Cotty ___/\__ || (O) | People, Places, Pastiche ||=|http://www.cottysnaps.com

Re: White K2000 pics

2008-12-18 Thread m.9.wilson
John Celio n...@neovenator.com wrote: Via Pentaxforums.com: 3/4 front view http://img244.imageshack.us/my.php?image=pentaxkmwhiterightfg1.jpg Top view http://img87.imageshack.us/my.php?image=pentaxkmwhitetoprp2.jpg I think it's pretty cool looking (literally and figuratively).

Re: White K2000 pics

2008-12-18 Thread Matthew Hunt
On Thu, Dec 18, 2008 at 6:51 AM, m.9.wil...@ntlworld.com wrote: Interesting look. No lens hood, as I suppose that would spoil the effect with its black flock inner. They'll announce white-flocked lens hoods just in time for the Martin Luther King, Jr., Day shopping season. -- PDML

Re: White K2000 pics

2008-12-18 Thread AlunFoto
- Original Message - From: AlunFoto alunf...@gmail.com Subject: Re: White K2000 pics 2008/12/17 Joseph McAllister pentax...@mac.com: In a bag of black marbles, a white marble stands out. Sorry, I just think Pentax had lost theirs. An oh, horror; it's official: http

Re: White K2000 pics

2008-12-18 Thread AlunFoto
Sent: Dec 17, 2008 2:36 PM To: Pentax-Discuss Mail List pdml@pdml.net Subject: Re: White K2000 pics 2008/12/17 Joseph McAllister pentax...@mac.com: In a bag of black marbles, a white marble stands out. Sorry, I just think Pentax had lost theirs. An oh, horror; it's official: http

Re: White K2000 pics

2008-12-18 Thread Tim Øsleby
an economical way for Pentax to increase sales Most likely aimed at those looking to make the jump to a DSLR. No one on the PDML would ever buy/use one - right? Kenneth Waller http://www.tinyurl.com/272u2f - Original Message - From: AlunFoto alunf...@gmail.com Subject: Re: White K2000 pics

Re: White K2000 pics

2008-12-18 Thread Eactivist
In a message dated 12/18/2008 5:27:22 A.M. Pacific Standard Time, alunf...@gmail.com writes: I still think the look of this particular camera sucks. To me, that's what the fuss is about. Not about whether it's a good or bad idea to _attempt_ a design to flatter a certain target group in the

Re: White K2000 pics

2008-12-18 Thread John Sessoms
From: Cotty Cough, women aren't quite that stupid. Cough. http://tinyurl.com/3shlqw I laughed so hard I think I just coughed up a lung. -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link

Re: White K2000 pics

2008-12-18 Thread David J Brooks
On Tue, Dec 16, 2008 at 5:21 PM, frank theriault knarftheria...@gmail.com wrote: On Tue, Dec 16, 2008 at 4:28 PM, John Celio n...@neovenator.com wrote: Via Pentaxforums.com: 3/4 front view http://img244.imageshack.us/my.php?image=pentaxkmwhiterightfg1.jpg Top view

Re: White K2000 pics

2008-12-18 Thread John Sessoms
From: AlunFoto I still think the look of this particular camera sucks. It's not the look that I find unappealing. A white K10D or K20D wouldn't bother me, although the color of the body wouldn't be a factor either way in a purchase decision. The bottom line for me is does the camera give

RE: White K2000 pics

2008-12-18 Thread John Celio
The bottom line for me is does the camera give me the tools I want to take the kind of photographs I want to take. The K2000 does NOT. And making a white version is just lipstick on a pig. From Nikon we get the D3, D3x, and D700 From Canon we get EOS 5D, EOS 50D, ... even the EOS Rebels

Re: White K2000 pics

2008-12-18 Thread frank theriault
On Thu, Dec 18, 2008 at 3:20 PM, John Celio n...@neovenator.com wrote: Then why don't you quit complaining, sell your obviously inadequate Pentax crap and go buy a Nikon. Give me two minutes. I just have to go make some popcorn, grab a beer and sit back to watch this flame war develop.

Re: White K2000 pics

2008-12-18 Thread Steve Desjardins
OTOH, look how much fun we're having with this. I think it's really an Xmas present for the PDML. -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.

Re: White K2000 pics

2008-12-18 Thread Peter Alling
- From: AlunFoto alunf...@gmail.com Sent: Dec 18, 2008 8:43 AM To: Pentax-Discuss Mail List pdml@pdml.net Subject: Re: White K2000 pics Peter, Have you tried to uninstall the drivers, and let the machine rediscover the hardware on next startup? If it is a registry issue, that may fix it... Best

Re: White K2000 pics

2008-12-18 Thread Peter Alling
...@stans-photography.info Sent: Dec 18, 2008 1:25 AM To: Pentax-Discuss Mail List pdml@pdml.net Subject: Re: White K2000 pics I agree, not really much to fuss about. Before my time (i.e., before I realized that cameras were anything more than a box to hold film, shutter mechanism, and lens mount

Re: White K2000 pics

2008-12-18 Thread Tim Øsleby
Don't know if this poster is serious or not, but LOL http://forums.dpreview.com/forums/read.asp?forum=1034message=30387245 ( Possible to paint D80 camera body white? After seeing the Pentax k2000 in white...,) MaritimTim 2008/12/18 Steve Desjardins desjard...@wlu.edu: OTOH, look how much fun

Re: White K2000 pics

2008-12-18 Thread Joseph McAllister
A happy holiday and a rosy future for you too, John. I'll send you a bill for the devaluation of my Pentax gear you so easily flush down the john, John. Joseph McAllister pentax...@mac.com gallery.me.com/jomac web.me.com/jomac/show.me/ On Dec 18, 2008, at 12:03 , John Sessoms wrote:

Re: White K2000 pics

2008-12-18 Thread Joseph McAllister
On Dec 18, 2008, at 12:20 , John Celio wrote: The bottom line for me is does the camera give me the tools I want to take the kind of photographs I want to take. The K2000 does NOT. And making a white version is just lipstick on a pig. From Nikon we get the D3, D3x, and D700 From Canon we get

Re: White K2000 pics

2008-12-17 Thread John Francis
On Wed, Dec 17, 2008 at 12:25:41PM -0200, Cassio Dorneles wrote: On Wed, Dec 17, 2008 at 12:06 PM, William Robb war...@gmail.com wrote: I think someone is dumping LSD into the Sake. Only a hallucinating drunk could think this camera is a good idea. Only a company full of hallucinating

Re: White K2000 pics

2008-12-17 Thread Charles Robinson
On Dec 17, 2008, at 8:06, William Robb wrote: I think someone is dumping LSD into the Sake. Only a hallucinating drunk could think this camera is a good idea. Only a company full of hallucinating drunks could think marketing this camera is a good idea. It WOULD blend in nicely with an

Re: White K2000 pics

2008-12-17 Thread frank theriault
On Tue, Dec 16, 2008 at 11:50 PM, William Robb war...@gmail.com wrote: snip Note to Pentax: Get with the effin program. You need a lens line and an improved camera, not more carp feeding poo. Bill, I wish you'd stop beating around the bush and speak your mind for a change... ;-) cheers,

Re: White K2000 pics

2008-12-17 Thread Steve Desjardins
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Re: White K2000 pics

2008-12-17 Thread Eactivist
In a message dated 12/17/2008 7:58:40 A.M. Pacific Standard Time, charl...@visi.com writes: On Dec 17, 2008, at 8:06, William Robb wrote: I think someone is dumping LSD into the Sake. Only a hallucinating drunk could think this camera is a good idea. Only a company full of hallucinating

Re: White K2000 pics

2008-12-17 Thread AlunFoto
2008/12/17 Joseph McAllister pentax...@mac.com: In a bag of black marbles, a white marble stands out. Sorry, I just think Pentax had lost theirs. An oh, horror; it's official: http://www.pentaximaging.com/slr/K2000_-_White/ Jostein -- http://www.alunfoto.no/galleri/

Re: White K2000 pics

2008-12-17 Thread Joseph McAllister
: Beaker Subject: Re: White K2000 pics I'd like to see a Navy Blue Pentax. Cosina-Voightlander made a handsome navy blue Bessa rangefinder. Olive Green, Grey were also available, along with the standard silver and black. I'd like to see a 60-250mm lens. Why are they wasting their efforts

RE: White K2000 pics

2008-12-17 Thread Bob W
14:26 To: Pentax-Discuss Mail List Subject: Re: White K2000 pics On Wed, Dec 17, 2008 at 12:06 PM, William Robb war...@gmail.com wrote: I think someone is dumping LSD into the Sake. Only a hallucinating drunk could think this camera is a good idea. Only a company full

Re: White K2000 pics

2008-12-17 Thread Ken Waller
- From: AlunFoto alunf...@gmail.com Subject: Re: White K2000 pics 2008/12/17 Joseph McAllister pentax...@mac.com: In a bag of black marbles, a white marble stands out. Sorry, I just think Pentax had lost theirs. An oh, horror; it's official: http://www.pentaximaging.com/slr/K2000_-_White

Re: White K2000 pics

2008-12-17 Thread Bruce Dayton
: AlunFoto alunf...@gmail.com KW Subject: Re: White K2000 pics 2008/12/17 Joseph McAllister pentax...@mac.com: In a bag of black marbles, a white marble stands out. Sorry, I just think Pentax had lost theirs. An oh, horror; it's official: http://www.pentaximaging.com/slr/K2000_-_White

Re: White K2000 pics

2008-12-17 Thread Eactivist
In a message dated 12/17/2008 11:58:42 A.M. Pacific Standard Time, bkday...@daytonphoto.com writes: I have the same feelings. When all else is equal or seemingly so...consumers will look for way to differentiate. Somehow, I think that many 'soccer mom' types would find this attractive and

Re: White K2000 pics

2008-12-17 Thread Adam Maas
On Wed, Dec 17, 2008 at 3:01 PM, eactiv...@aol.com wrote: In a message dated 12/17/2008 11:58:42 A.M. Pacific Standard Time, bkday...@daytonphoto.com writes: I have the same feelings. When all else is equal or seemingly so...consumers will look for way to differentiate. Somehow, I think

Re: White K2000 pics

2008-12-17 Thread Eactivist
In a message dated 12/17/2008 12:05:51 P.M. Pacific Standard Time, a...@mawz.ca writes: Sales numbers of multi-coloured PS's would disagree with you Marnie. Ditto the unusual level of interest in the various coloured versions of the Panasonic G1, the first large-sensor Digital camera to be

Re: White K2000 pics

2008-12-17 Thread Tim Øsleby
2008/12/17 William Robb war...@gmail.com: - Original Message - From: Beaker Subject: Re: White K2000 pics I'd like to see a Navy Blue Pentax. Cosina-Voightlander made a handsome navy blue Bessa rangefinder. Olive Green, Grey were also available, along with the standard silver

Re: White K2000 pics

2008-12-17 Thread Bruce Dayton
Why is liking a different color stupid? I don't get it. Many times when I want something, if it has color I may choose one. If you want to look like a 'Professional photographer', then black is in. But I'm saying that many people could care less about looking like a pro. -- Best regards,

Re: White K2000 pics

2008-12-17 Thread Bruce Dayton
If it helps, this is not just a 'woman' thing. How about 'Soccer Dads'? It is merely a term for people who are more interested in other things than to become a 'Pro' photographer. -- Best regards, Bruce Wednesday, December 17, 2008, 12:01:23 PM, you wrote: Eac In a message dated 12/17/2008

Re: White K2000 pics

2008-12-17 Thread AlunFoto
That's about the dumbest looking camera I've ever seen. Good thing it doesn't look real. The little details don't add up. Jostein 2008/12/16 John Celio n...@neovenator.com: Via Pentaxforums.com: 3/4 front view http://img244.imageshack.us/my.php?image=pentaxkmwhiterightfg1.jpg Top view

Re: White K2000 pics

2008-12-17 Thread Tim Øsleby
Sorry Marnie, but I think you are a few months older than the usual target segment for this white DSRL :-) You and I like discretion yes. But the younger generation definitely don't. In fact most of them have the quite opposite approach to life. They will grab anything, that makes them think it

Re: White K2000 pics

2008-12-17 Thread Eactivist
In a message dated 12/17/2008 12:21:55 P.M. Pacific Standard Time, bkday...@daytonphoto.com writes: If it helps, this is not just a 'woman' thing. How about 'Soccer Dads'? It is merely a term for people who are more interested in other things than to become a 'Pro' photographer. -- Best

RE: White K2000 pics

2008-12-17 Thread John Celio
Cough, women aren't quite that stupid. So basically this is a stupid move on Pentax's part. It's not a matter of stupid or otherwise. Women tend to be more interested in colorful or bright cameras and accessories than men. I know this from two sources. First was the market research I used

Re: White K2000 pics

2008-12-17 Thread AlunFoto
2008/12/17 William Robb war...@gmail.com: That's fowl. You're just chicken. It's plucking ridiculous. Sounds like the yoke's on you. Eggscuse me, but two pun threads at the same time is not allowed. we'll have to hatch new rules then This was never meant to be a free run. I'm not going

Re: White K2000 pics

2008-12-17 Thread Cassio Dorneles
On Wed, Dec 17, 2008 at 12:06 PM, William Robb war...@gmail.com wrote: I think someone is dumping LSD into the Sake. Only a hallucinating drunk could think this camera is a good idea. Only a company full of hallucinating drunks could think marketing this camera is a good idea. Well, although

Re: White K2000 pics

2008-12-17 Thread William Robb
- Original Message - From: Tim Øsleby Subject: Re: White K2000 pics Mind your blood pressure my friend :-) How much effort do you think they have put into this? Some wise guy gets an idea one late evening. The next day he tells about it to his chief. The next day, the chief says

Re: White K2000 pics

2008-12-17 Thread jtainter
The white K2000 is targeted at the biggest segment of the photography market: casual snapshooting women, particularly moms. While it might make sense to target this market segment, I am not sure that Pentax has. The announcement said that the white DSLR would be produced in limited

Re: White K2000 pics

2008-12-17 Thread Luiz Felipe
Wed, 17 Dec 2008 21:26:31 +0100, Tim ??sleby maritim...@gmail.com escreveu: ...snip... That goes for the youngsters, but also for their parents. Look at the moms clothes, they dress exactly the same as their kids, with visible bellies and all that. ... that's not necessarily bad, depends

Re: White K2000 pics

2008-12-17 Thread Tim Øsleby
2008/12/17 Luiz Felipe luiz.fel...@techmit.com.br: Wed, 17 Dec 2008 21:26:31 +0100, Tim ??sleby maritim...@gmail.com escreveu: ...snip... That goes for the youngsters, but also for their parents. Look at the moms clothes, they dress exactly the same as their kids, with visible bellies and

Re: White K2000 pics

2008-12-17 Thread Bob Sullivan
What's the issue here. This doesn't hurt anyone. It is a simple line extension which costs minimal $$$ for Pentax, and gets them a whole new round of publicity and exposure. How many of you eat Oreo cookies. Are 'double stuff' Oreo's a stupid idea? Are Oreo 'minis' a stupid idea? Lighten up

Re: White K2000 pics

2008-12-17 Thread William Robb
- Original Message - From: AlunFoto Subject: Re: White K2000 pics 2008/12/17 Joseph McAllister pentax...@mac.com: In a bag of black marbles, a white marble stands out. Sorry, I just think Pentax had lost theirs. An oh, horror; it's official: http://www.pentaximaging.com/slr

Re: White K2000 pics

2008-12-17 Thread pnstenquist
Wander. Blunder. Discover. Blunder? Who writes this stuff for them, Canon's PR's department? William Robb I'm not certan, but I believe it's the same ad agency that works for Honda -- Rubin Postaer and Associates in Santa Monica. Blunder is definitely a blunder. Paul -- PDML

Re: White K2000 pics

2008-12-17 Thread Doug Franklin
pnstenqu...@comcast.net wrote: Wander. Blunder. Discover. Blunder? Who writes this stuff for them, Canon's PR's department? William Robb I'm not certan, but I believe it's the same ad agency that works for Honda -- Rubin Postaer and Associates in Santa Monica. Blunder is definitely a

Re: White K2000 pics

2008-12-17 Thread Ken Waller
The announcement said that the white DSLR would be produced in limited quantitites Isn't everything ? Just adds to the gotta buy it gene.. Kenneth Waller http://www.tinyurl.com/272u2f - Original Message - From: jtainter jtain...@mindspring.com Subject: Re: White K2000 pics

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