Re: OT - This is Why Your Pictures Suck

2013-05-19 Thread mike wilson
On 19/05/2013 02:53, P.J. Alling wrote: On 5/18/2013 12:17 PM, Bob W wrote: On 18 May 2013, at 16:47, J.C.O'Connell hifis...@gate.net wrote: Last time I bought white socks, I bought 21 pairs just so I wouldnt have to worry about matching them up. jco And there was me thinking I was the only

Re: In praise of the K5's sensor

2013-05-19 Thread David J Brooks
Charles, i to am very very impressed with what the K-5 sensor can do, at high ISO and low light. My trampoline stuff was shot at a high ISO and under artificial lights and the lack of noise was amazing. Its my go to camera now, my Nikons get as much work as Pee Wee Herman Dave On Sat, May 18,

Re: PESO Kanzan Dusk 2

2013-05-19 Thread David J Brooks
Love this one. Great lighting and framing Dave On Tue, May 14, 2013 at 3:42 PM, Bruce Walker bruce.wal...@gmail.com wrote: Here's my own recent dusk photography result, from our backyard Kanzan Cherry standard, giving one of its best shows this year:

Re: Boris PESO #26 - ...

2013-05-19 Thread David J Brooks
Wonderful shot Dave On Wed, May 15, 2013 at 2:26 PM, Boris Liberman bori...@gmail.com wrote: Another one... http://pentax-ways.blogspot.co.il/2013/05/2013-26.html Your comments will be appreciated. Boris -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net

Re: PESO - street scene

2013-05-19 Thread David J Brooks
Very nice indeed Dave On Wed, May 15, 2013 at 11:17 PM, Ann Sanfedele ann...@nyc.rr.com wrote: Took this a few months ago - dont think I ever showed you guys. More my kind of thing than the pumpkin ale shot.

Re: GESO - Cat Man

2013-05-19 Thread David J Brooks
Nice gallery Dave On Sat, May 18, 2013 at 5:58 PM, Derby Chang der...@iinet.net.au wrote: And some streeties from me. http://members.iinet.net.au/~derbyc/13/05/catman/index.html -- der...@iinet.net.au http://members.iinet.net.au/~derbyc -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List

Re: PESO - Masked Wendy

2013-05-19 Thread David J Brooks
On Fri, May 10, 2013 at 9:46 AM, Doug Brewer d...@alphoto.com wrote: On 5/9/13 5:37 PM, Paul Stenquist wrote: I like it, but she should probably be naked, save for a leather thong. I rather liked the June Cleaver dress against the mask. I'll have to check about the thong for next time.

Re: PESO - The Old Home Office - 1974

2013-05-19 Thread David J Brooks
I still have, and use my old HP 11c and 42 Dave On Tue, May 14, 2013 at 11:09 AM, George Sinos gsi...@gmail.com wrote: I ran across a few old slides that reminded me of how things were done before the Internet. Man, there isn't much in these photos that hasn't been replaced.

Re: Peso Stouffville fire truck

2013-05-19 Thread Bob W
On 19 May 2013, at 09:11, David J Brooks pentko...@gmail.com wrote: The annual firehall open house was last Saturday. They have a restore old fire truck that i have been trying to get a few decent shots of, but they never put it in photographer friendly locations. This was the best one all

Re: In praise of the K5's sensor

2013-05-19 Thread Larry Colen
On Sun, May 19, 2013 at 03:31:34AM -0400, David J Brooks wrote: Charles, i to am very very impressed with what the K-5 sensor can do, at high ISO and low light. My trampoline stuff was shot at a high ISO and under artificial lights and the lack of noise was amazing. Its my go to camera now,

Re: OT - This is Why Your Pictures Suck

2013-05-19 Thread Larry Colen
On Sat, May 18, 2013 at 01:03:07PM -0500, Walt wrote: I have three pairs of dress socks -- black, brown and blue. Then, I have an unknown number of white socks with grey soles. Then, I have a few pairs of white socks with grass stains around the ankles. They're my reserve socks that remind

Things come apart

2013-05-19 Thread David Mann
Don't let this guy do any kind of portraiture or it might get messy. http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/in-pictures-22514601 Cheers, Dave -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and

PESO stumped

2013-05-19 Thread Larry Colen
We used a leafblower today to take out a stump. I think this is the best photograph that I took of the process. http://www.flickr.com/photos/ellarsee/8752565115/ We also used drills, a sawzall, a maul, an axe, crowbars, gasoline ... snaps of the whole process

Re: Peso Stouffville fire truck

2013-05-19 Thread David J Brooks
On Sun, May 19, 2013 at 4:32 AM, Bob W p...@web-options.com wrote: On 19 May 2013, at 09:11, David J Brooks pentko...@gmail.com wrote: The annual firehall open house was last Saturday. They have a restore old fire truck that i have been trying to get a few decent shots of, but they never put

Re: In praise of the K5's sensor

2013-05-19 Thread David J Brooks
On Sun, May 19, 2013 at 4:33 AM, Larry Colen l...@red4est.com wrote: On Sun, May 19, 2013 at 03:31:34AM -0400, David J Brooks wrote: Charles, i to am very very impressed with what the K-5 sensor can do, at high ISO and low light. My trampoline stuff was shot at a high ISO and under artificial

Re: In praise of the K5's sensor

2013-05-19 Thread Derby Chang
Haha, that's great. Fake Mick is in his puffy shirt, and Fake Dave is in his presumably swishy coat. I remember thinking how daggy it was when it came on Live Aid. Put me off Stones and Bowie for years On 19/05/2013 9:40 AM, Charles Robinson wrote: Man. I just shot my first big concert

Re: In praise of the K5's sensor

2013-05-19 Thread Rob Studdert
On 19 May 2013 13:51, Paul Stenquist pnstenqu...@comcast.net wrote: I can usually get focus under those condition. I more typically shoot ISO 6400, f 2.8 @ 1/30th, but it sounds like a similar level of light. I always use a single focus point and just keep working an edge with some contrast

Re: OT - This is Why Your Pictures Suck

2013-05-19 Thread Bob W
On 19 May 2013, at 09:35, Larry Colen l...@red4est.com wrote: On Sat, May 18, 2013 at 01:03:07PM -0500, Walt wrote: I have three pairs of dress socks -- black, brown and blue. Then, I have an unknown number of white socks with grey soles. Then, I have a few pairs of white socks with grass

Re: Peso Stouffville fire truck

2013-05-19 Thread Bob W
On 19 May 2013, at 11:38, David J Brooks pentko...@gmail.com wrote: On Sun, May 19, 2013 at 4:32 AM, Bob W p...@web-options.com wrote: On 19 May 2013, at 09:11, David J Brooks pentko...@gmail.com wrote: The annual firehall open house was last Saturday. They have a restore old fire truck

Re: PESO stumped

2013-05-19 Thread Daniel J. Matyola
That is an intriguing image, with nice textures and color. Dan Matyola http://www.pentaxphotogallery.com/danieljmatyola On Sun, May 19, 2013 at 5:23 AM, Larry Colen l...@red4est.com wrote: We used a leafblower today to take out a stump. I think this is the best photograph that I took of the

Re: OT - This is Why Your Pictures Suck

2013-05-19 Thread Mark Roberts
Bob W wrote: On 19 May 2013, at 09:35, Larry Colen l...@red4est.com wrote: On Sat, May 18, 2013 at 01:03:07PM -0500, Walt wrote: I have three pairs of dress socks -- black, brown and blue. Then, I have an unknown number of white socks with grey soles. Then, I have a few pairs of white

Re: OT - This is Why Your Pictures Suck

2013-05-19 Thread Bruce Walker
On Sun, May 19, 2013 at 9:48 AM, Mark Roberts postmas...@robertstech.com wrote: Bob W wrote: On 19 May 2013, at 09:35, Larry Colen l...@red4est.com wrote: On Sat, May 18, 2013 at 01:03:07PM -0500, Walt wrote: I have three pairs of dress socks -- black, brown and blue. Then, I have an

Re: PESO Kanzan Dusk 2

2013-05-19 Thread Bruce Walker
Thanks, Dave! On Sun, May 19, 2013 at 3:32 AM, David J Brooks pentko...@gmail.com wrote: Love this one. Great lighting and framing Dave On Tue, May 14, 2013 at 3:42 PM, Bruce Walker bruce.wal...@gmail.com wrote: Here's my own recent dusk photography result, from our backyard Kanzan Cherry

Re: PESO stumped

2013-05-19 Thread Bruce Walker
What Dan said. On Sun, May 19, 2013 at 9:43 AM, Daniel J. Matyola danmaty...@gmail.com wrote: That is an intriguing image, with nice textures and color. Dan Matyola http://www.pentaxphotogallery.com/danieljmatyola On Sun, May 19, 2013 at 5:23 AM, Larry Colen l...@red4est.com wrote: We used

Re: Street is on

2013-05-19 Thread Bruce Walker
Congratulations, Derby. Well done! Wish I could visit. Just curious: did the curator/gallery do the framing? Looks like they're styled similarly. On Sat, May 18, 2013 at 5:49 PM, Derby Chang der...@iinet.net.au wrote: Hiya, Street, a collection of street photography in the State Library, of

Re: Street is on

2013-05-19 Thread Ann Sanfedele
deservedly chuffed :-) can we see your small part on line ? -- ooopps, I mean - of course, the selections that are in the show?;_) ann On 5/18/2013 17:49, Derby Chang wrote: Hiya, Street, a collection of street photography in the State Library, of which I am a small part, opened on Friday.

Re: OT - This is Why Your Pictures Suck

2013-05-19 Thread Christine Aguila
On May 19, 2013, at 8:48 AM, Mark Roberts postmas...@robertstech.com wrote: Bob W wrote: On 19 May 2013, at 09:35, Larry Colen l...@red4est.com wrote: On Sat, May 18, 2013 at 01:03:07PM -0500, Walt wrote: I have three pairs of dress socks -- black, brown and blue. Then, I have an

Re: OT - This is Why Your Pictures Suck

2013-05-19 Thread Rob Studdert
On 20 May 2013 00:35, Christine Aguila christ...@caguila.com wrote: On May 19, 2013, at 8:48 AM, Mark Roberts postmas...@robertstech.com wrote: Bob W wrote: On 19 May 2013, at 09:35, Larry Colen l...@red4est.com wrote: On Sat, May 18, 2013 at 01:03:07PM -0500, Walt wrote: I have three

Re: PESO stumped

2013-05-19 Thread P.J. Alling
Are you sure the word you were looking for wasn't flamethrower? I know it sounds like leafblower... On 5/19/2013 5:23 AM, Larry Colen wrote: We used a leafblower today to take out a stump. I think this is the best photograph that I took of the process.

Re: OT - This is Why Your Pictures Suck

2013-05-19 Thread Bob W
On 19 May 2013, at 15:41, Rob Studdert distudio.p...@gmail.com wrote: On 20 May 2013 00:35, Christine Aguila christ...@caguila.com wrote: On May 19, 2013, at 8:48 AM, Mark Roberts postmas...@robertstech.com wrote: Bob W wrote: On 19 May 2013, at 09:35, Larry Colen l...@red4est.com

Re: Things come apart

2013-05-19 Thread mike wilson
On 19/05/2013 11:13, David Mann wrote: Don't let this guy do any kind of portraiture or it might get messy. http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/in-pictures-22514601 I have a houseful of stuff that looks like that. Once took a microscope apart to the level of separating the lens elements. -- No

Vertical Images

2013-05-19 Thread Jack Davis
Mark, Assuming commensurate dimensions are duly provided, can future accepted vertical images be printed in the long dimension of the PDML annual pages? Thanks, Jack   -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML,

Re: Peso Stouffville fire truck

2013-05-19 Thread P.J. Alling
On 5/19/2013 9:32 AM, Bob W wrote: On 19 May 2013, at 11:38, David J Brooks pentko...@gmail.com wrote: On Sun, May 19, 2013 at 4:32 AM, Bob W p...@web-options.com wrote: On 19 May 2013, at 09:11, David J Brooks pentko...@gmail.com wrote: The annual firehall open house was last Saturday.

Re: PESO: Baby Robin

2013-05-19 Thread Steve Cottrell
On 18/5/13, Christine Nielsen, discombobulated, unleashed: Anyway, I ended up with one or two that I like: http://www.christinenielsen.com/sharing/h5fc506ae#h5fc505cc I used the 60-250, and cropped pretty heavily... I think the image held up ok, considering... what do you think? Made me giggle.

PESO 2013 - 046 - GDG

2013-05-19 Thread Godfrey DiGiorgi
We had a guest from out of town and decided to enjoy a nice day's luncheon on the Napa Valley Wine Train. Well worth it: good wine, good food, great scenery, and good friends to enjoy the time. http://godfreydigiorgi.wordpress.com/2013/05/19/the-napa-valley-wine-train/ enjoy! Godfrey -- a

Re: PESO 2013 - 046 - GDG

2013-05-19 Thread Daniel J. Matyola
Looks like good wine, good food, great scenery, good friends and great images. Dan Matyola http://www.pentaxphotogallery.com/danieljmatyola On Sun, May 19, 2013 at 1:13 PM, Godfrey DiGiorgi godfreydigio...@me.com wrote: We had a guest from out of town and decided to enjoy a nice day's luncheon

Re: OT - This is Why Your Pictures Suck

2013-05-19 Thread Larry Colen
I think everyone on this list would start picking knits with the whole darned thing. Then someone would put their foot in it and we'd all be hosed. Mark Roberts postmas...@robertstech.com wrote: Bob W wrote: On 19 May 2013, at 09:35, Larry Colen l...@red4est.com wrote: On Sat, May 18,

PESO: Fenway Park panorama

2013-05-19 Thread David Parsons
http://www.flickr.com/photos/alohadave/8753766649/ An uncropped panorama from above home plate at Fenway Park in Boston. -- David Parsons Photography http://www.davidparsonsphoto.com Aloha Photographer Photoblog http://alohaphotog.blogspot.com/ -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net

Re: PESO: LeeAnn W. photo shoot

2013-05-19 Thread Larry Colen
Speaking of available light... Doug, are you going to peso that shot you posted? Bruce Walker bruce.wal...@gmail.com wrote: On Sat, May 18, 2013 at 3:27 PM, Walt ldott...@gmail.com wrote: I'm just so attuned to using available and ambient light that it's become a crutch for me, and not having

Re: PESO: Fenway Park panorama

2013-05-19 Thread Daniel J. Matyola
Well done. I fell as if I am there again. Dan Matyola http://www.pentaxphotogallery.com/danieljmatyola On Sun, May 19, 2013 at 1:49 PM, David Parsons parsons.da...@gmail.com wrote: http://www.flickr.com/photos/alohadave/8753766649/ An uncropped panorama from above home plate at Fenway Park

Attention Denver PDMLers

2013-05-19 Thread Igor Roshchin
Dear Denver PDMLers: We will be in Denver next weekend for the tango festival. http://denvertangofestival.com/dtf/2013mem While our schedule is full with the festival events (classes and milongas [dance parties]), and we are spending most of the time in one hotel, one of the milongas is held

Re: PESO stumped

2013-05-19 Thread kwaller
Looks like you blew it. Kenneth Waller http://www.pentaxphotogallery.com/kennethwaller - Original Message - From: Larry Colen l...@red4est.com Subject: PESO stumped We used a leafblower today to take out a stump. I think this is the best photograph that I took of the process.

Re: OT - This is Why Your Pictures Suck

2013-05-19 Thread kwaller
Kenneth Waller http://www.pentaxphotogallery.com/kennethwaller - Original Message - From: Mark Roberts postmas...@robertstech.com Subject: Re: OT - This is Why Your Pictures Suck Bob W wrote: On 19 May 2013, at 09:35, Larry Colen l...@red4est.com wrote: On Sat, May 18, 2013 at

Re: Fenway Park panorama

2013-05-19 Thread kwaller
Original ! Nicely cpatured. Kenneth Waller http://www.pentaxphotogallery.com/kennethwaller - Original Message - From: David Parsons parsons.da...@gmail.com Subject: PESO: Fenway Park panorama http://www.flickr.com/photos/alohadave/8753766649/ An uncropped panorama from above home

Re: PESO stumped

2013-05-19 Thread Larry Colen
On Sun, May 19, 2013 at 03:01:23PM -0400, kwal...@peoplepc.com wrote: Looks like you blew it. After we drilled it. Kenneth Waller http://www.pentaxphotogallery.com/kennethwaller - Original Message - From: Larry Colen l...@red4est.com Subject: PESO stumped We used a

Re: OT - This is Why Your Pictures Suck

2013-05-19 Thread John Sessoms
From: Walt I have three pairs of dress socks -- black, brown and blue. Then, I have an unknown number of white socks with grey soles. Then, I have a few pairs of white socks with grass stains around the ankles. They're my reserve socks that remind me that I'm almost out of clean socks. I

Re: PESO 2013 - 046 - GDG

2013-05-19 Thread Ann Sanfedele
love that one, Godders ann On 5/19/2013 13:13, Godfrey DiGiorgi wrote: We had a guest from out of town and decided to enjoy a nice day's luncheon on the Napa Valley Wine Train. Well worth it: good wine, good food, great scenery, and good friends to enjoy the time.

Re: PESO stumped

2013-05-19 Thread kwaller
Kenneth Waller http://www.pentaxphotogallery.com/kennethwaller - Original Message - From: Larry Colen l...@red4est.com Subject: Re: PESO stumped On Sun, May 19, 2013 at 03:01:23PM -0400, kwal...@peoplepc.com wrote: Looks like you blew it. After we drilled it. I saw that.

Re: OT - This is Why Your Pictures Suck

2013-05-19 Thread Ann Sanfedele
That reminds me, I have to do the laundry When I do Laundry I invariable end up with two sock categories - a few that match and a bunch that don't - there is a large bag of unmatched socks in the bottom of my closet. once it fills up I spill it out on the bed and play the match game. If there

RE: Pentax FF DSLR is vaporware?

2013-05-19 Thread John Sessoms
From: J.C. O'Connell Seriously, what is the latest rumours about FF Pentax dslr? The latest seems to be the officially deemed FAKE mid-March 2013 rumor that Pentax would announce the K-3 using Sony's 24mp full-frame sensor. Instead we got 9 bold new colors for the K-30 (which BTW was no longer

Re: PESO - Panorama, Navestøylen

2013-05-19 Thread Tim Øsleby
I understand Ann. I have edited the page, to make a bit less confusing. Now you should be able to see that there is more below. At least at most monitors. Thanks for the thumbs up on the porthole pic. I use it as a signature picture. -- MaritimTim My private photo blog:

Re: OT - This is Why Your Pictures Suck

2013-05-19 Thread Joseph McAllister
On May 19, 2013, at 06:48 , Mark Roberts wrote: Bob W wrote: On 19 May 2013, at 09:35, Larry Colen l...@red4est.com wrote: On Sat, May 18, 2013 at 01:03:07PM -0500, Walt wrote: I have three pairs of dress socks -- black, brown and blue. Then, I have an unknown number of white socks

Re: PESO Kanzan Dusk 2

2013-05-19 Thread Joseph McAllister
Very nice. How cool to have the sunset lit cloud blend with the predominate color of the bloom. On May 19, 2013, at 06:54 , Bruce Walker wrote: Thanks, Dave! On Sun, May 19, 2013 at 3:32 AM, David J Brooks pentko...@gmail.com wrote: Love this one. Great lighting and framing Dave On

Re: PESO: LeeAnn W. photo shoot

2013-05-19 Thread John Sessoms
Amazon has used copies of the latest edition of Light Science Magic for less than $30. http://www.amazon.com/Light-Science-Magic-Introduction-Photographic/dp/0240812255/ref=dp_ob_title_bk From: Bruce Walker On Sat, May 18, 2013 at 3:27 PM, Walt ldott...@gmail.com wrote: I'm just so attuned

Re: PESO Kanzan Dusk 2

2013-05-19 Thread Bruce Walker
Thanks, Joe! Sent from my iPod On 2013-05-19, at 4:35 PM, Joseph McAllister pentax...@mac.com wrote: Very nice. How cool to have the sunset lit cloud blend with the predominate color of the bloom. On May 19, 2013, at 06:54 , Bruce Walker wrote: Thanks, Dave! On Sun, May 19, 2013

Re: OT - This is Why Your Pictures Suck

2013-05-19 Thread Bob W
On 19 May 2013, at 20:43, John Sessoms jsessoms...@nc.rr.com wrote: From: Walt I have three pairs of dress socks -- black, brown and blue. Then, I have an unknown number of white socks with grey soles. Then, I have a few pairs of white socks with grass stains around the ankles. They're

PAW176 - 17 May

2013-05-19 Thread DagT
Our constitution is 199 years old. http://www.thrane.name/Pictures/PAW/files/page7-1000-full.html Pentax K-5, DA*16-50*16mm, f/3-5, 1/80s, ISO100 DagT http://www.thrane.name/ -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the

Re: Pentax FF DSLR is vaporware?

2013-05-19 Thread P.J. Alling
On 5/19/2013 4:21 PM, John Sessoms wrote: From: J.C. O'Connell Seriously, what is the latest rumours about FF Pentax dslr? The latest seems to be the officially deemed FAKE mid-March 2013 rumor that Pentax would announce the K-3 using Sony's 24mp full-frame sensor. Instead we got 9 bold new

Re: PAW176 - 17 May

2013-05-19 Thread Darren Addy
I don't understand the title, but that is a gorgeous shot. I admire the set up and wait for something to happen idea, but have yet to really try it myself. On Sun, May 19, 2013 at 5:39 PM, DagT li...@thrane.name wrote: Our constitution is 199 years old.

Re: Pentax FF DSLR is vaporware?

2013-05-19 Thread Tim Øsleby
Are you sure? -- MaritimTim My private photo blog: http://maritimtim.blogspot.com/ To err is human to arr is pirate 2013/5/20 P.J. Alling

Re: Pentax FF DSLR is vaporware?

2013-05-19 Thread P.J. Alling
If there isn't we probably won't care... On 5/19/2013 7:04 PM, Tim Øsleby wrote: Are you sure? -- MaritimTim My private photo blog: http://maritimtim.blogspot.com/ To err is human to arr is pirate

Re: OT Photoshop CC spurs competitive market for Photoshop, replacement

2013-05-19 Thread P.J. Alling
On 5/8/2013 3:56 AM, David Mann wrote: On May 8, 2013, at 4:45 AM, John Sessoms jsessoms...@nc.rr.com wrote: Not to mention what are you going to do if the FBI decides Adobe's cloud is the new Megaupload? Adobe's pockets are probably deep enough that the Feds would have to actually do some

Re: OT - This is Why Your Pictures Suck

2013-05-19 Thread Daniel J. Matyola
Getting Peter Ustinov to narrate would be a neat trick, as he has been dead for almost a decade. There's a big difference between mostly dead and all dead, but I believe he is all dead by now. Besides, James Earl Jones or Morgan Freeman would be better. Dan Matyola

Re: Pentax FF DSLR is vaporware?

2013-05-19 Thread Darren Addy
P.J. is right, at least in my case. If/when Pentax introduces a full frame DSLR, I will probably buy one (eventually) but I won't be one of the first in line. A full frame sensor, by itself doesn't really gain you anything except: 1) shallower DOF (at the same focal length, compared to a APS-C) 2)

Re: Pentax FF DSLR is vaporware?

2013-05-19 Thread Darren Addy
Sorry typo: that should be 85mm f1.8s (and the CZJ is a Flektogon Electric) On Sun, May 19, 2013 at 6:35 PM, Darren Addy pixelsmi...@gmail.com wrote: P.J. is right, at least in my case. If/when Pentax introduces a full frame DSLR, I will probably buy one (eventually) but I won't be one of the

Re: Pentax FF DSLR is vaporware?

2013-05-19 Thread Darren Addy
I should also mention another significant negative... when you lose the crop factor you lose at the telephoto end. So your 500mm lens goes back to being a 500mm FOV instead of a 750mm FOV... meaning you will have to buy longer lenses to make up for what you lost (or keep your APS-C camera for just

Re: Pentax FF DSLR is vaporware?

2013-05-19 Thread Rob Studdert
On 20 May 2013 09:50, Darren Addy pixelsmi...@gmail.com wrote: I should also mention another significant negative... when you lose the crop factor you lose at the telephoto end. So your 500mm lens goes back to being a 500mm FOV instead of a 750mm FOV... meaning you will have to buy longer

Re: Pentax FF DSLR is vaporware?

2013-05-19 Thread Darren Addy
True, but, if i'm honest with myself i'm already cropping my APS-C images to Pentax Q sizes. ;) On Sun, May 19, 2013 at 6:53 PM, Rob Studdert distudio.p...@gmail.com wrote: On 20 May 2013 09:50, Darren Addy pixelsmi...@gmail.com wrote: I should also mention another significant negative... when

Re: Pentax FF DSLR is vaporware?

2013-05-19 Thread Rob Studdert
On 20 May 2013 10:17, Darren Addy pixelsmi...@gmail.com wrote: True, but, if i'm honest with myself i'm already cropping my APS-C images to Pentax Q sizes. ;) Har, I know where you're coming from, I really could have done with a 500mm lens at the airshow I attended a couple of weeks back :)

Re: Pentax FF DSLR is vaporware?

2013-05-19 Thread Mark Roberts
P.J. Alling wrote: The beauty being that the the rumor will always be fresh, there is always a next year... These rumors go in cycles. I remember the 645D is vaporware threads and the (60-250/4 is vaporware) threads. -- Mark Roberts - Photography Multimedia www.robertstech.com -- PDML

Re: Pentax FF DSLR is vaporware?

2013-05-19 Thread Doug Brewer
On 5/19/13 8:42 PM, Mark Roberts wrote: P.J. Alling wrote: The beauty being that the the rumor will always be fresh, there is always a next year... These rumors go in cycles. I remember the 645D is vaporware threads and the (60-250/4 is vaporware) threads. Not to mention the Pentax DSLR

PESO - Biker Down

2013-05-19 Thread Paul Stenquist
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Re: PESO - Biker Down

2013-05-19 Thread Rob Studdert
On 20 May 2013 11:40, Paul Stenquist pnstenqu...@comcast.net wrote: http://photo.net/photodb/photo?photo_id=17343678size=lg Of his own volition fortunately :) Cheers, -- Rob Studdert (Digital Image Studio) Tel: +61-418-166-870 UTC +10 Hours Gmail, eBay, Skype, Twitter, Facebook, Picasa:

Re: Things come apart

2013-05-19 Thread Rob Studdert
On 20 May 2013 01:05, mike wilson m.9.wil...@ntlworld.com wrote: I have a houseful of stuff that looks like that. Once took a microscope apart to the level of separating the lens elements. Photograph it and it'll become art :) -- Rob Studdert (Digital Image Studio) Tel: +61-418-166-870 UTC

RE: PESO - Biker Down

2013-05-19 Thread Gerrit Visser
Interesting timing on the capture. The position of arms, legs sort of mimic the bike handle bars and frame. A good balnace. Maybe as a result my eyes are drawn to the phone? Gerrit -Original Message- From: PDML [mailto:pdml-boun...@pdml.net] On Behalf Of Paul Stenquist Sent: Sunday, May

Re: Pentax FF DSLR is vaporware?

2013-05-19 Thread J.C. O'Connell
I disagree with one point made below. FF actually allows LOWER quality lenses to be used because the absolute lines/mm doesnt have to be as high for same quality of results. Yes with some really bad lenses the softness in the corners may become more visible, but with decent lenses, FF puts

Re: Pentax FF DSLR is vaporware?

2013-05-19 Thread Rob Studdert
On 20 May 2013 12:22, J.C. O'Connell hifis...@gate.net wrote: I disagree with one point made below. FF actually allows LOWER quality lenses to be used because the absolute lines/mm doesnt have to be as high for same quality of results. Yes with some really bad lenses the softness in the

Re: Pentax FF DSLR is vaporware?

2013-05-19 Thread J.C. O'Connell
On 5/19/2013 10:27 PM, Rob Studdert wrote: On 20 May 2013 12:22, J.C. O'Connell hifis...@gate.net wrote: I disagree with one point made below. FF actually allows LOWER quality lenses to be used because the absolute lines/mm doesnt have to be as high for same quality of results. Yes with some

Re: Pentax FF DSLR is vaporware?

2013-05-19 Thread Rob Studdert
On 20 May 2013 12:44, J.C. O'Connell hifis...@gate.net wrote: The simple physics is that if the FF sensor is 50% longer than the APSC sensor in both dimensions, the FF lens only needs to provide 2/3 the resolution of the APSC lens to match the overall system resolution. If the FF lens

Re: Pentax FF DSLR is vaporware?

2013-05-19 Thread J.C. O'Connell
On 5/19/2013 10:51 PM, Rob Studdert wrote: On 20 May 2013 12:44, J.C. O'Connell hifis...@gate.net wrote: The simple physics is that if the FF sensor is 50% longer than the APSC sensor in both dimensions, the FF lens only needs to provide 2/3 the resolution of the APSC lens to match the overall

Re: PAW176 - 17 May

2013-05-19 Thread Kenneth Waller
Ditto what Darren said! -Original Message- From: Darren Addy pixelsmi...@gmail.com Subject: Re: PAW176 - 17 May I don't understand the title, but that is a gorgeous shot. I admire the set up and wait for something to happen idea, but have yet to really try it myself. On Sun, May 19,

Re: Pentax FF DSLR is vaporware?

2013-05-19 Thread Kenneth Waller
Like the Brooklyn Dodgers said year after year when they had just lost the World Series - 'Wait till next year'. -Original Message- From: P.J. Alling webstertwenty...@gmail.com Subject: Re: Pentax FF DSLR is vaporware? On 5/19/2013 4:21 PM, John Sessoms wrote: From: J.C. O'Connell

PESO - Dresses from Ghana

2013-05-19 Thread knarftheria...@gmail.com
My partner recently did a craft show (she makes bookmarks). I helped and took pictures. One of the vendors was the adoptive mother of the subject of this photo. The young lady is from Ghana and although I don't know her story I got the impression that she's an orphan living with Canadian

Re: OT Photoshop CC spurs competitive market for Photoshop, replacement

2013-05-19 Thread Doug Franklin
On 2013-05-19 19:17, P.J. Alling wrote: On 5/8/2013 3:56 AM, David Mann wrote: On May 8, 2013, at 4:45 AM, John Sessoms jsessoms...@nc.rr.com wrote: Not to mention what are you going to do if the FBI decides Adobe's cloud is the new Megaupload? Adobe's pockets are probably deep enough that

Re: Pentax FF DSLR is vaporware?

2013-05-19 Thread Paul Stenquist
Current Pentax lenses work great on current Pentax cameras. Why belabor this FF hysteria? All Pentax cameras have full frames. None have 24 x 36 frames. Get over it. Pual On May 19, 2013, at 10:51 PM, Rob Studdert distudio.p...@gmail.com wrote: On 20 May 2013 12:44, J.C. O'Connell

Re: Pentax FF DSLR is vaporware?

2013-05-19 Thread Rob Studdert
On 20 May 2013 13:35, Paul Stenquist pnstenqu...@comcast.net wrote: Current Pentax lenses work great on current Pentax cameras. Why belabor this FF hysteria? All Pentax cameras have full frames. None have 24 x 36 frames. Get over it. Pual This is just a discussion on the physics of the

Re: Pentax FF DSLR is vaporware?

2013-05-19 Thread Larry Colen
On Sun, May 19, 2013 at 10:22:51PM -0400, J.C. O'Connell wrote: I disagree with one point made below. FF actually allows LOWER quality lenses to be used because the absolute lines/mm doesnt have to be as high for same quality of results. Yes with some really bad lenses the softness in the

Re: Pentax FF DSLR is vaporware?

2013-05-19 Thread Boris Liberman
On 5/20/2013 2:35 AM, Darren Addy wrote: In short, the Pentax flagship cameras meet or exceed my expectations right now and a full frame doesn't do a lot for me other than let me proclaim that I have a full frame camera. Very well said, Darren. I totally agree... Now, not answering you

Re: Pentax FF DSLR is vaporware?

2013-05-19 Thread Boris Liberman
On 5/20/2013 5:44 AM, J.C. O'Connell wrote: The simple physics is that if the FF sensor is 50% longer than the APSC sensor in both dimensions, the FF lens only needs to provide 2/3 the resolution of the APSC lens to match the overall system resolution. If the FF lens approaches the quality of

Re: Boris PESO #26 - ...

2013-05-19 Thread Boris Liberman
Thanks, Dave! On 5/19/2013 10:38 AM, David J Brooks wrote: Wonderful shot Dave On Wed, May 15, 2013 at 2:26 PM, Boris Liberman bori...@gmail.com wrote: Another one... http://pentax-ways.blogspot.co.il/2013/05/2013-26.html Your comments will be appreciated. Boris -- PDML Pentax-Discuss

Re: Boris PESO #26 - ...

2013-05-19 Thread Boris Liberman
Isn't it supposed to be +1? ;-) The net-speak is sometimes a killer... On 5/19/2013 1:14 AM, eactiv...@aol.com wrote: Like. Heh. FB response. Marnie aka Doe ;-) In a message dated 5/15/2013 11:27:25 A.M. Pacific Daylight Time, bori...@gmail.com writes: Another one...

Re: PAW176 - 17 May

2013-05-19 Thread Paul Sorenson
Syttende Mai - May 17 - Norwegian Constitution Day - (Norwegian July 4th) -p On 5/19/2013 10:10 PM, Kenneth Waller wrote: Ditto what Darren said! -Original Message- From: Darren Addy pixelsmi...@gmail.com Subject: Re: PAW176 - 17 May I don't understand the title, but that is a

PESO: ICH DIEN

2013-05-19 Thread Daniel J. Matyola
http://photo.net/photodb/photo?photo_id=17344274 K-r with SMC FA 100 mm 1:2.8 Comments are invited. Extra points for identifying where this detail was found. Dan Matyola http://www.pentaxphotogallery.com/danieljmatyola -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net

Re: Pentax FF DSLR is vaporware?

2013-05-19 Thread Christine Aguila
In Chicago we say maybe next year. :-) Christine On May 19, 2013, at 10:14 PM, Kenneth Waller kwal...@peoplepc.com wrote: Like the Brooklyn Dodgers said year after year when they had just lost the World Series - 'Wait till next year'. -Original Message- From: P.J. Alling

PAW week 20--spring has finally arrived in Chicago

2013-05-19 Thread Christine Aguila
Cheers, Christine http://www.caguila.com/paw2013/content/_IGP5975_large.html -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.

Re: OT - This is Why Your Pictures Suck

2013-05-19 Thread Doug Franklin
On 2013-05-18 19:02, David J Brooks wrote: On Fri, May 17, 2013 at 6:53 PM, knarftheria...@gmail.com Btw did Shel write that? Double HAR My pictures suck because I don't shoot enough, and, when I do, I don't pay proper attention to learning from my own mistakes. -- Doug Lefty Franklin

Re: PAW week 20--spring has finally arrived in Chicago

2013-05-19 Thread Alan C
That should lift anyone's sprits after a long, cold winter. Alan C -- From: Christine Aguila christ...@caguila.com Sent: Monday, May 20, 2013 6:37 AM To: PDML List pdml@pdml.net Subject: PAW week 20--spring has finally arrived in Chicago Cheers,