Re: A Familiar Shoulder

2014-01-14 Thread Larry Colen
On Mon, Jan 13, 2014 at 10:35:23PM -0600, Walt Gilbert wrote: For what it's worth, people in general are a mixed blessing. Some of us are more mixed than blessing. That's a damn fine photo for someone whose not very good with a camera. :-) -- Walt On 1/13/2014 2:16 PM, Paul Sorenson

SV: PESOs: polar vortex + window

2014-01-14 Thread Alunfoto - Jostein Øksne
Good thing I didn't send any of my attempts at frozen water from last year for the book, they would have fallen through completely. A very nice set, Christine. Jostein -Opprinnelig melding- Fra: Christine Nielsen Dato: 10. januar 2014 16:36 Til: Pentax-Discuss Mail List Emne: Re:

Re: January PUG is up - it's cold outside....

2014-01-14 Thread Henk Terhell
Thanks Darren. My favorite is that cold hand of Ken. Henk Darren Addy schreef op 13-1-2014 19:07: Henk's Frost in the Polder is far and away my favorite. The only thing that might have made it even better would have been to capture a fog of breath coming out of the nostrils. My honorable

Re: GESO - CES and Paul's Pic

2014-01-14 Thread Steve Cottrell
On 13/1/14, Ann Sanfedele, discombobulated, unleashed: Its annoying I always thought they were pushing the gear to any other scantily clad women who might be there. -- Cheers, Cotty ___/\__Broadcast, Corporate, || (O) |Web Video Production --www.seeingeye.tv

Re: GESO - CES and Paul's Pic

2014-01-14 Thread Ann Sanfedele
Late 60's early 70's .. For some reason I can vividly remember an outfit I had - the top had shoulder pads and the shorts had cuffs... If it had been a dress, it would have been something from the 40's But yes, 1970 exactly was when I had the outfit.. The shorts were safer than the mini skirts.

Thinking about a revival

2014-01-14 Thread CollinB
There was a time when Pentax made a nice slip-on cap. Of course they didn't stay on as well as the snap-in caps. So I avoided them. Now I'm looking at putting a quality cpl on several lense. The slim b+w is reasonably priced and high quality. But it's slim because there are no front threads.

Re: PESO: A Familiar Shoulder

2014-01-14 Thread Walt
Thank you very much, Frank! As ambivalent as I am about shooting weddings, moments like that make it worth all the effort. -- Walt On 1/14/2014 1:15 AM, knarf wrote: You nailed it. Could not be better imho. Everything is there and in the right place. Pure emotion, beautifully captured and

Re: PESO: Made in Detroit

2014-01-14 Thread John
Unfortunate connotations in the name though. On 1/14/2014 12:10 AM, Ken Waller wrote: Maybe he'll find something for himself... I hope he does Christine - he won't be sorry - I got mine for christmas and it is just what I wanted - A plain simple well executed watch ! Shinola appears to be a

Re: A Familiar Shoulder

2014-01-14 Thread Walt
On 1/14/2014 2:13 AM, Larry Colen wrote: On Mon, Jan 13, 2014 at 10:35:23PM -0600, Walt Gilbert wrote: For what it's worth, people in general are a mixed blessing. Some of us are more mixed than blessing. That's a damn fine photo for someone whose not very good with a camera. :-) Thanks,

Re: Thinking about a revival

2014-01-14 Thread John
On 1/14/2014 11:05 AM, CollinB wrote: There was a time when Pentax made a nice slip-on cap. Of course they didn't stay on as well as the snap-in caps. So I avoided them. Now I'm looking at putting a quality cpl on several lense. The slim b+w is reasonably priced and high quality. But it's slim

Re: GESO - CES and Paul's Pic

2014-01-14 Thread John
That outfit sounds like something from Bette Midler's act. On 1/14/2014 9:55 AM, Ann Sanfedele wrote: Late 60's early 70's .. For some reason I can vividly remember an outfit I had - the top had shoulder pads and the shorts had cuffs... If it had been a dress, it would have been something from

It seems simple, but ...

2014-01-14 Thread CollinB
Pentax has two premium lines. * and Limited. What distinguishes one from the other these days? -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.

Re: PESO: Made in Detroit

2014-01-14 Thread Bill
On 14/01/2014 10:50 AM, John wrote: Unfortunate connotations in the name though. I thought so to until I did 30 seconds of research. bill -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link

Re: It seems simple, but ...

2014-01-14 Thread Bill
On 14/01/2014 11:30 AM, CollinB wrote: Pentax has two premium lines. * and Limited. What distinguishes one from the other these days? Size and build. bill -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please

Re: PESO: Made in Detroit

2014-01-14 Thread Walt
That's a great-looking watch. I've never been one to wear them, but if I did, that'd be the one. -- Walt On 1/13/2014 3:49 PM, Ken Waller wrote: Not to upstage Paul and his great Autoshow coverage but I have to share this great product made in Detroit. Its relatively new on the scene and a

Re: GESO - CES and Paul's Pic

2014-01-14 Thread Eactivist
I never wore a mini-skirt, per-se. But I had blue wool or knit dress, that was essentially mini-skirt length, with covered arms and with a high neck, but a large, prominent zipper down the middle. Guys seemed to notice that zipper a lot, as I recall. Still have it around somewhere. Would

Re: It seems simple, but ...

2014-01-14 Thread Dario Bonazza
* = hi-tech (AW construction, SDM, AL, IF, ED, etc.), fast and bulky. DA Ltd = old-fashioned style: not so fast, small and metal barrel (on the outside). Old style even about their image properties, and that requires lesser use of fancy glasses and advanced optical design features. Dario

Re: GESO - CES and Paul's Pic

2014-01-14 Thread Walt
On 1/13/2014 6:06 PM, Bob W wrote: On 13 Jan 2014, at 20:35, John johnsess...@yahoo.com wrote: On 1/13/2014 2:09 PM, Bruce Walker wrote: Who neatly dresses in office attire to go shooting? Not I. If you want Truth In Advertising the sales folk should all be dressed in Dumpy Photographer Attire.

Re: PESO: Made in Detroit

2014-01-14 Thread knarf
That's a beauty! Both watch and photo. Cheers, frank Ken Waller kwal...@peoplepc.com wrote: Not to upstage Paul and his great Autoshow coverage but I have to share this great product made in Detroit. Its relatively new on the scene and a first from Detroit.

Re: A Familiar Shoulder

2014-01-14 Thread Larry Colen
Mark! Walt ldott...@gmail.com wrote: On 1/14/2014 2:13 AM, Larry Colen wrote: On Mon, Jan 13, 2014 at 10:35:23PM -0600, Walt Gilbert wrote: For what it's worth, people in general are a mixed blessing. Some of us are more mixed than blessing. That's a damn fine photo for someone whose not

Re: PESO: Made in Detroit

2014-01-14 Thread steve harley
on 2014-01-13 22:10 Ken Waller wrote Shinola appears to be a great brand thats trying to fill a niche with their watches, bikes and leather goods! your photo has good graphic properties; are the numerals actually raised, or is that 3D effect painted on? recently i tried to look up another

PESO - Only In Vegas

2014-01-14 Thread Eactivist
Wish I had had time to do a whole series of Only In Vegas shots, while there, but didn't. Slot machines in 7-11's, etc. For those of you not in the US, Denny's is a very prosaic restaurant chain, sort of middle of the road dinning. Not the cheapest there is (those are fast-food drive

Re: A Familiar Shoulder

2014-01-14 Thread Ken Waller
I've found that I can get decent results in spite of my shortcomings, as long as I'm standing in the right place when something happens. Just like real estate - location, location, location... VBG Kenneth Waller http://www.pentaxphotogallery.com/kennethwaller - Original Message -

Re: PESO - Only In Vegas

2014-01-14 Thread Jack Davis
Those bright lights should serve as a warning. Jack - Original Message - From: eactiv...@aol.com eactiv...@aol.com To: pdml@pdml.net Cc: Sent: Tuesday, January 14, 2014 11:43 AM Subject: PESO - Only In Vegas Wish I had had time to do a whole series of  Only In Vegas shots, while

Re: Thinking about a revival

2014-01-14 Thread Ken Waller
A few years ago I was able to buy a 49mm cap, from Pentax, that gripped the inside threads on the lens - might still be available. Kenneth Waller http://www.pentaxphotogallery.com/kennethwaller - Original Message - From: John johnsess...@yahoo.com Subject: Re: Thinking about a

Re: PESO: Made in Detroit

2014-01-14 Thread Ken Waller
Thanks knarf. It was something different for me and I wanted to spread the word. Kenneth Waller http://www.pentaxphotogallery.com/kennethwaller - Original Message - From: knarf knarftheria...@gmail.com Subject: Re: PESO: Made in Detroit Love it! Cheers, frank Ken Waller

Re: January PUG is up - it's cold outside....

2014-01-14 Thread Ken Waller
Thanks Henk, I appreciate the comment. Kenneth Waller http://www.pentaxphotogallery.com/kennethwaller - Original Message - From: Henk Terhell hterh...@chello.nl Subject: Re: January PUG is up - it's cold outside Thanks Darren. My favorite is that cold hand of Ken. Henk Darren

Re: PESO: Made in Detroit

2014-01-14 Thread Ken Waller
A very long time ago, when I earned money shinning shoes, Shinola was THE brand of polish us professional shoe-shiners used. And I also remember the old saying - you don't know shit from Shinola. I never did polish shoes with shit. Kenneth Waller

Re: PESO - Only In Vegas

2014-01-14 Thread Ann Sanfedele
Certainly not only in Vegas though - looks exactly like ones in the east to me , unless you are saying there are slots in the restaurant - which I can't see in the photo. Anywhere in Nevada that's possible, btw. Denny's is a place one should not patronize on ethical grounds. ann On

Re: PESO: Made in Detroit

2014-01-14 Thread Ann Sanfedele
Nice shot - almost as nice as your frozen bud :-) but is that really a watch? ann On 1/14/2014 13:22, knarf wrote: That's a beauty! Both watch and photo. Cheers, frank Ken Waller kwal...@peoplepc.com wrote: Not to upstage Paul and his great Autoshow coverage but I have to share this great

Re: PESO: Made in Detroit

2014-01-14 Thread Ken Waller
Thanks Walt. It also has the feel of a quality instrument. Kenneth Waller http://www.pentaxphotogallery.com/kennethwaller - Original Message - From: Walt ldott...@gmail.com Subject: Re: PESO: Made in Detroit That's a great-looking watch. I've never been one to wear them, but if I

Re: PESO: Made in Detroit

2014-01-14 Thread Ken Waller
They'll face tougher competition with their bike than they will with the watches. From what I've seen their current bike offerings are rather specialized city machines. I learned Shinola is having their bike frames built by an older outfit in Waterford, Michigan. Kenneth Waller

Re: A Familiar Shoulder

2014-01-14 Thread John
On 1/14/2014 11:51 AM, Walt wrote: On 1/14/2014 2:13 AM, Larry Colen wrote: On Mon, Jan 13, 2014 at 10:35:23PM -0600, Walt Gilbert wrote: For what it's worth, people in general are a mixed blessing. Some of us are more mixed than blessing. That's a damn fine photo for someone whose not very

Re: PESO: Made in Detroit

2014-01-14 Thread Ken Waller
Forgot to ad - the numerals are painted on the face. Kenneth Waller http://www.pentaxphotogallery.com/kennethwaller - Original Message - From: Ken Waller kwal...@peoplepc.com Subject: Re: PESO: Made in Detroit They'll face tougher competition with their bike than they will with the

Re: PESO: Made in Detroit

2014-01-14 Thread Ken Waller
Hi Ann Thanks for the comment - and yes it is a watch. There's 3/4 more that I didn't capture! I used my 200mm f4.0 A* macro at 1:1 (lifesize) my K3 - really starting to appreciate that camera! Kenneth Waller http://www.pentaxphotogallery.com/kennethwaller - Original Message -

Re: PESO - Trickle Down

2014-01-14 Thread John
I recognize that he must be sitting on some kind of steam grate but you can't really see anything about him. It's all blocked up shadows specular highlights. I wouldn't even know it was a him if it weren't for the tip off in your post. There's really nothing in the image that speaks to me of

RE: A Familiar Shoulder

2014-01-14 Thread Bob W
-Original Message- From: PDML [mailto:pdml-boun...@pdml.net] On Behalf Of John I've found that I can get decent results in spite of my shortcomings, as long as I'm standing in the right place when something happens. The key to being a great wedding photographer is

Suggestions for mid range lens

2014-01-14 Thread John
I have been using my Pentax 20-35 MM and a Sigma 70-300 MM and have been mostly happy with the results from these two lenses on my ist DS. But the man in the middle is an elder lens (Tamron 35-135 mm Manual Zoom and focus) and I think it is time to replace it. It seems as though both Tamron

Re: A Familiar Shoulder

2014-01-14 Thread Walt Gilbert
On 1/14/2014 3:10 PM, Bob W wrote: -Original Message- From: PDML [mailto:pdml-boun...@pdml.net] On Behalf Of John I've found that I can get decent results in spite of my shortcomings, as long as I'm standing in the right place when something happens. The key to being a great

Re: Suggestions for mid range lens

2014-01-14 Thread steve harley
on 2014-01-14 14:29 John wrote I have been using my Pentax 20-35 MM and a Sigma 70-300 MM and have been mostly happy with the results from these two lenses on my ist DS. But the man in the middle is an elder lens (Tamron 35-135 mm Manual Zoom and focus) and I think it is time to replace it.

RE: A Familiar Shoulder

2014-01-14 Thread Larry Colen
I haven't done that since my honeymoon. Bob W p...@web-options.com wrote: -Original Message- From: PDML [mailto:pdml-boun...@pdml.net] On Behalf Of John I've found that I can get decent results in spite of my shortcomings, as long as I'm standing in the right place when

OT - Interesting Lawsuit by Empre State Bldg vs Topless Photog!

2014-01-14 Thread Steve Cottrell
Interesting! http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-us-canada-25734917 -- Cheers, Cotty ___/\__Broadcast, Corporate, || (O) |Web Video Production --www.seeingeye.tv _ -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net

Re: Boris PESO #02 - Waiting

2014-01-14 Thread Mark C
Nice tonality and blend of soft and sharps - great! On 1/10/2014 1:36 PM, Boris Liberman wrote: Hello. Here's a fresh photograph: http://pentax-ways.blogspot.co.il/2014/01/2013-02-waiting.html Even at f/2.0 this Nokton is totally not a slouch... As usual - brutal and honest comments are

Re: GESO - CES and Paul's Pic

2014-01-14 Thread Mark C
Thanks for the report - sounds like they office line is We ain't going full frame! Like the photos - nice stairway / break room / cafe for lunch! Mark On 1/13/2014 12:59 AM, eactiv...@aol.com wrote: I went to CES in Las Vegas and just got back. These were shot with the X-5 (which I got so I

Re: PESO - Trickle Down

2014-01-14 Thread knarf
Thanks for the comment, John. The lack of comments tells me that it doesn't speak to anyone else either. ;-) Doesn't really matter if it's a him or a her, it's more that there's a poor schmuck sitting on a sidewalk in one of the richest cities in one of the richest countries in the world. The

Re: A Familiar Shoulder

2014-01-14 Thread Bruce Walker
On Tue, Jan 14, 2014 at 11:51 AM, Walt ldott...@gmail.com wrote: On 1/14/2014 2:13 AM, Larry Colen wrote: On Mon, Jan 13, 2014 at 10:35:23PM -0600, Walt Gilbert wrote: For what it's worth, people in general are a mixed blessing. Some of us are more mixed than blessing. That's a damn fine

Re: OT - Interesting Lawsuit by Empre State Bldg vs Topless Photog!

2014-01-14 Thread Bruce Walker
Interesting indeed, especially if he really was simply shooting with the same old PS or camera phone as all the other tourists. $1.1m bucks? Holy crap in a bun. How far out of proportion can something be pushed before it reaches escape velocity? On Tue, Jan 14, 2014 at 5:37 PM, Steve Cottrell

Re: Suggestions for mid range lens

2014-01-14 Thread Bruce Walker
On Tue, Jan 14, 2014 at 4:41 PM, steve harley p...@paper-ape.com wrote: on 2014-01-14 14:29 John wrote I have been using my Pentax 20-35 MM and a Sigma 70-300 MM and have been mostly happy with the results from these two lenses on my ist DS. But the man in the middle is an elder lens

PESO - By Streetlight

2014-01-14 Thread knarf
A week ago we (like much of eastern North America) in a deep freeze with lots of snow: http://knarfinthecity.blogspot.ca/2014/01/by-streetlight.html?m=1 Now much of it has melted and we're experiencing spring-like temps. I like snow better than huge puddles everywhere, to be honest... Hope

Re: Suggestions for mid range lens

2014-01-14 Thread Mark C
You might want to consider a 28-105 f4 - 5.6 power zoom. I did some informal testing / playing around while bored this weekend and was really impressed with how sharp my copy of this lens is on the K-3. At 50mm f8 it was pretty close to the A 50 f1.4, which actually surprised me. I use it

Re: GESO - CES and Paul's Pic

2014-01-14 Thread Mark C
Er... Um... the official line is At least auto correct left ain't alone... On 1/14/2014 6:14 PM, Mark C wrote: Thanks for the report - sounds like they office line is We ain't going full frame! Like the photos - nice stairway / break room / cafe for lunch! Mark On 1/13/2014 12:59 AM,

Re: PESO - By Streetlight

2014-01-14 Thread Bruce Walker
Really liking the mood and light in this, Frank. You've really captured the snowy-TO-by-streetlights look. The huge puddles have a tendency to become skating rinks overnight. It's been hellish trying to walk the doggy lately. On Tue, Jan 14, 2014 at 7:09 PM, knarf knarftheria...@gmail.com

Re: It seems simple, but ...

2014-01-14 Thread Mark C
I was going to say that the star lenses have SDM focusing and also include zooms, while the the limiteds lack SDM and include only primes. But I won't say that because the 20-40 Limited is a zoom and has DC (which I guess is a form of SDM.) Mark On 1/14/2014 12:30 PM, CollinB wrote: Pentax

Re: It seems simple, but ...

2014-01-14 Thread Matthew Hunt
On Tue, Jan 14, 2014 at 9:05 PM, Mark C pdml-m...@charter.net wrote: I was going to say that the star lenses have SDM focusing and also include zooms, while the the limiteds lack SDM and include only primes. But I won't say that because the 20-40 Limited is a zoom and has DC (which I guess

PESO The 17-70/4 Works the Auto Show

2014-01-14 Thread Paul Stenquist
I’m promised some pics shot with this lens. Here’s the first one. Managed dot elbow my way into a decent position in front of the stage at the Hyundai Genesis introduction to get a shot. Had to wait for the smoke to clear but it eventually did. The pic ended up in the Times auto show reporting

Re: PESO The 17-70/4 Works the Auto Show

2014-01-14 Thread Mark C
Excellent work, Paul - that photo just glistens and shines! Looking forward to getting my copy of the 17-70 later this week. Mark On 1/14/2014 9:28 PM, Paul Stenquist wrote: I’m promised some pics shot with this lens. Here’s the first one. Managed dot elbow my way into a decent position in

Re: PESO The 17-70/4 Works the Auto Show

2014-01-14 Thread Bruce Walker
Nice and shiny! Great stuff, Paul. On Tue, Jan 14, 2014 at 9:28 PM, Paul Stenquist pnstenqu...@comcast.net wrote: I’m promised some pics shot with this lens. Here’s the first one. Managed dot elbow my way into a decent position in front of the stage at the Hyundai Genesis introduction to get

Re: PESO The 17-70/4 Works the Auto Show

2014-01-14 Thread Ann Sanfedele
You're good at this stuff you know ann On 1/14/2014 21:28, Paul Stenquist wrote: I’m promised some pics shot with this lens. Here’s the first one. Managed dot elbow my way into a decent position in front of the stage at the Hyundai Genesis introduction to get a shot. Had to wait for the

Re: PESO The 17-70/4 Works the Auto Show

2014-01-14 Thread Paul Stenquist
Thanks Ann. Coming from you, that means a lot. Paul via phone On Jan 14, 2014, at 10:01 PM, Ann Sanfedele ann...@nyc.rr.com wrote: You're good at this stuff you know ann On 1/14/2014 21:28, Paul Stenquist wrote: I’m promised some pics shot with this lens. Here’s the first one. Managed

Re: PESO The 17-70/4 Works the Auto Show

2014-01-14 Thread Alan C
Great stuff, Paul. I'd love to have one of those. It would be quite an upgrade from our i20! Alan C -Original Message- From: Paul Stenquist Sent: Wednesday, January 15, 2014 4:28 AM To: Pentax-Discuss Mail List Subject: PESO The 17-70/4 Works the Auto Show I’m promised some pics

Re: PESO The 17-70/4 Works the Auto Show

2014-01-14 Thread Paul Stenquist
Thanks. The i20 is a nice ride. Hyundai is competing with it in the world rally championship. Paul via phone On Jan 14, 2014, at 10:52 PM, Alan C c...@lantic.net wrote: Great stuff, Paul. I'd love to have one of those. It would be quite an upgrade from our i20! Alan C -Original

Re: PESO The 17-70/4 Works the Auto Show

2014-01-14 Thread Jack Davis
Extremely well done. I assume that you, also, do all of the post editing. Most impressive, Paul. Jack - Original Message - From: Paul Stenquist pnstenqu...@comcast.net To: Pentax-Discuss Mail List pdml@pdml.net Cc: Sent: Tuesday, January 14, 2014 6:28 PM Subject: PESO The 17-70/4

Re: PESO The 17-70/4 Works the Auto Show

2014-01-14 Thread Ann Sanfedele
You're welcome - now get some rest! :-) ann On 1/14/2014 22:02, Paul Stenquist wrote: Thanks Ann. Coming from you, that means a lot. Paul via phone On Jan 14, 2014, at 10:01 PM, Ann Sanfedele ann...@nyc.rr.com wrote: You're good at this stuff you know ann On 1/14/2014 21:28, Paul

Re: PESO The 17-70/4 Works the Auto Show

2014-01-14 Thread Kenneth Waller
Very well done, professional. You can make most Pentax lenses look good! -Original Message- From: Paul Stenquist pnstenqu...@comcast.net Subject: PESO The 17-70/4 Works the Auto Show I’m promised some pics shot with this lens. Here’s the first one. Managed dot elbow my way into a

PESO - Love at First Sight

2014-01-14 Thread knarf
Just fooling around: http://knarfdummyblog.blogspot.ca/2014/01/love-at-first-sight.html?m=1 Hope you enjoy. Comments welcome. Cheers, frank “Analysis kills spontaneity.” -- Henri-Frederic Amiel -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to

Re: Suggestions for mid range lens

2014-01-14 Thread John
Mark, I have thought of that, but I have a Sigma 70 -300 mm f 4-5.6 Power zoom that I like very much. It has been a good lens that I have had for a while. For zooms I use, the others are: : Pentax 20-35 mm f4, and my old Tamron 35-135mm f 3.5-4.5, which is used when I feel I need to be

Re: PESO - By Streetlight

2014-01-14 Thread Bruce
This shot really takes me back to my childhood. The mood conveyed just has that sense of yesteryear. Very nicely done. Frank. -- Bruce Sent from my iPad On Jan 14, 2014, at 4:09 PM, knarf knarftheria...@gmail.com wrote: A week ago we (like much of eastern North America) in a deep freeze

Re: PESO The 17-70/4 Works the Auto Show

2014-01-14 Thread Bruce
Well, there is the lens and then the K3 and then there is the photographer. The equipment didn't hurt you but you did an amazing job! -- Bruce Sent from my iPad On Jan 14, 2014, at 6:28 PM, Paul Stenquist pnstenqu...@comcast.net wrote: I’m promised some pics shot with this lens. Here’s

Re: PESO - By Streetlight

2014-01-14 Thread Ken Waller
I like snow better than huge puddles everywhere, to be honest... The great Carnack predict more snow to come - you betchum. Kenneth Waller http://www.pentaxphotogallery.com/kennethwaller - Original Message - From: knarf knarftheria...@gmail.com Subject: PESO - By Streetlight A