My following comments are a duplicate of what I sent under the title
It ain't like it used to be but are a follow up in this thread as
well, perhaps even more germane.
On Oct 2, 2010, at 09:16 , Carlos R wrote:
El 02/10/2010 13:26, paul stenquist escribió:
What's DC? Have you had trouble
2010/10/2 John Sessoms jsessoms...@nc.rr.com:
Well, to the extent that they reduce a business cost, but what I mean is
Pentax doesn't make X number of Dollars, Euro, Yen ... profit off of each
repair as was implied.
It's just a bad business practice to manufacture shoddy goods, and then
On Oct 2, 2010, at 5:02 AM, eckinator wrote:
2010/10/2 John Sessoms jsessoms...@nc.rr.com:
Well, to the extent that they reduce a business cost, but what I mean is
Pentax doesn't make X number of Dollars, Euro, Yen ... profit off of each
repair as was implied.
It's just a bad business
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From: paul stenquist
Subject: Re: I don't like being the squeaky wheel, but...
What's DC? Have you had trouble with an SDM lens, Ecke? I know Robb and
Celio did. Has anyone else on the list had a failure? I'm genuinely
curious.
I have three
On Oct 2, 2010, at 11:23 AM, William Robb wrote:
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From: paul stenquist
Subject: Re: I don't like being the squeaky wheel, but...
What's DC? Have you had trouble with an SDM lens, Ecke? I know Robb
and Celio did. Has anyone else
El 02/10/2010 13:26, paul stenquist escribió:
What's DC? Have you had trouble with an SDM lens, Ecke? I know Robb and Celio
did. Has anyone else on the list had a failure? I'm genuinely curious.
I have three that SDM lenses I've used extensively since they were first
released, and they work
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From: P N Stenquist
Subject: Re: I don't like being the squeaky wheel, but...
Doesn't Pentax Forum whine about everything? I believe there is a
problem, but it's blown out of proportion. My lack of failures or luck
isn't bullshit, it's fact
On Oct 2, 2010, at 12:16 PM, Carlos R wrote:
El 02/10/2010 13:26, paul stenquist escribió:
What's DC? Have you had trouble with an SDM lens, Ecke? I know Robb and
Celio did. Has anyone else on the list had a failure? I'm genuinely curious.
I have three that SDM lenses I've used
On Oct 2, 2010, at 12:39 PM, William Robb wrote:
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From: P N Stenquist
Subject: Re: I don't like being the squeaky wheel, but...
Doesn't Pentax Forum whine about everything? I believe there is a problem,
but it's blown out
On 10/2/2010 5:58 PM, P N Stenquist wrote:
Doesn't Pentax Forum whine about everything? I believe there is a
problem, but it's blown out of proportion. My lack of failures or luck
isn't bullshit, it's fact, and you'd be hard-pressed to find a set of
SDM lenses that get more use than mine.
Paul
Boris Liberman wrote:
On 10/2/2010 5:58 PM, P N Stenquist wrote:
Doesn't Pentax Forum whine about everything? I believe there is a
problem, but it's blown out of proportion. My lack of failures or luck
isn't bullshit, it's fact, and you'd be hard-pressed to find a set of
SDM lenses that get
2010/10/2 paul stenquist pnstenqu...@comcast.net:
What's DC?
Direct Current AF motor. There was a mail here some time ago linking
to the patent document. Simple, robust looking design.
Have you had trouble with an SDM lens, Ecke? I know Robb and Celio did. Has
anyone else on the list had a
On Oct 2, 2010, at 5:53 PM, eckinator wrote:
2010/10/2 paul stenquist pnstenqu...@comcast.net:
What's DC?
Direct Current AF motor. There was a mail here some time ago linking
to the patent document. Simple, robust looking design.
Have you had trouble with an SDM lens, Ecke? I know
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From: paul stenquist pnstenqu...@comcast.net
Subject: Re: I don't like being the squeaky wheel, but...
On Oct 2, 2010, at 5:02 AM, eckinator wrote:
2010/10/2 John Sessoms jsessoms...@nc.rr.com:
Well, to the extent that they reduce a business cost, but what I mean
? I've owned numerous Pentax lenses since 1969 and have never had even a
hint
of an issue with them...
until I got the SMC DA* 16-50mm f2.8 about a year and a half ago.
It worked fine for several months but earlier this year on a photo shoot
in Utah it started not to auto focus. I could
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From: Mark Roberts
Subject: Re: I don't like being the squeaky wheel, but...
It may be the general consensus but my 16-50 has had trouble-free SDM
despite often spending months sitting idle between uses. I think the
less use = more failure
Mark, please notice that said it /seems/ to be a general consensus
and not everyone knows that I am not trying to shout
gloom-n-doom here, but either way, a number of personal testimonies
will not prove the claim. I am glad your lens works. It is very
unfortunate that Ecke, Bill Robb and
From: William Robb
From: John Celio
I just got my DA* 16-50 back from repair, but I didn't have to pay for
it: my email to Ned Bunnell, in which I expressed my extreme
disappointment that my lens would go bad while sitting on a shelf for
four months, apparently convinced C.R.I.S. to see my
2010/10/1 John Sessoms jsessoms...@nc.rr.com:
I don't think they make a profit from repairs. I thought Pentax had
out-sourced repair work?
outsourcing usually saves money (or reduces loss) plus you no longer
have to worry about employee rights. you bet they make a profit.
ecke
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PDML
2010/9/30 John Celio n...@neovenator.com:
I just got my DA* 16-50 back from repair, but I didn't have to pay for
it: my email to Ned Bunnell, in which I expressed my extreme
disappointment that my lens would go bad while sitting on a shelf for
four months, apparently convinced C.R.I.S. to see
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From: John Sessoms
Subject: Re: I don't like being the squeaky wheel, but...
At the very least, it shouldn't be a profit center for them.
I don't think they make a profit from repairs. I thought Pentax had
out-sourced repair work?
So
El 01/10/2010 17:43, William Robb escribió:
So they get to sell lots of parts and fixing it is a profit center for
the repair people, whomever they are.
The point I was trying to make, which seems to have been lost on you, is
that Pentax should be fixing dead AF motors in these lenses
From: eckinator
2010/10/1 John Sessoms jsessoms...@nc.rr.com:
I don't think they make a profit from repairs. I thought Pentax had
out-sourced repair work?
outsourcing usually saves money (or reduces loss) plus you no longer
have to worry about employee rights. you bet they make a profit.
I just got my DA* 16-50 back from repair, but I didn't have to pay for
it: my email to Ned Bunnell, in which I expressed my extreme
disappointment that my lens would go bad while sitting on a shelf for
four months, apparently convinced C.R.I.S. to see my point of view. I
don't like having to be a
On Sep 30, 2010, at 2:46 PM, John Celio wrote:
I just got my DA* 16-50 back from repair, but I didn't have to pay for
it: my email to Ned Bunnell, in which I expressed my extreme
disappointment that my lens would go bad while sitting on a shelf for
four months, apparently convinced C.R.I.S.
? don't like having to be a squeaky wheel to get problems solved, but I
think in this case it was worth it. Let's hope the repair sticks this
time.
I think you mean the repair continues to work rather than sticks.
Heh, yes. That. Time will tell.
John
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http://www.jacelio.com
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From: John Celio
Subject: I don't like being the squeaky wheel, but...
I just got my DA* 16-50 back from repair, but I didn't have to pay for
it: my email to Ned Bunnell, in which I expressed my extreme
disappointment that my lens would go bad
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