probably won't write before tomorrow. Joe Ransdell [EMAIL PROTECTED]- Original Message From: Jeff Kasser [EMAIL PROTECTED]To: Peirce Discussion Forum peirce-l@lyris.ttu.eduSent: Sunday, October 1, 2006 3:04:13 PMSubject: [peirce-l] Re: What "fundamenal psychological laws" is Pei
Response to J Kasser (resend)
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J Kasser says,
"It's not easy to see h
copic sense. when in fact he was not. (I
may be putting words in Jeff's mouth there but I think that is what he
is getting at.)
Well, that will have to do for this post. Sorry for being so
long-winded on that.
Joe
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I think you're right, Gary, that Peirce doesn't really need to be saved
from the circularity you (very astutely) pointed out in your earlier
message. And I think that you make a good start of showing why he
doesn't need saving. But I would add that Peirce is very concerned
about avoiding
Gary, Joe, et al.
With circularity, I think you'll have to consider, what Peirce wrote of taking up the same premisses again and again in cyclical systems, e.g. cyclical algebra. That is not circulum vitiosum. The same premisses take on new meanings, with a new context, that's how I've
Coming out of hibernation this is one hell of an interesting thread,
but I've not had time to put in my contribution because my time is consumed
with various projects. So I'll put in my 0.02 cents worth now.
What more compelling factor in fixation of belief is there than the
mind-body
Title: [peirce-l] Re: What fundamenal psychological
laws is Pei
Kristi,
Yes indeed, I'm thinking of growth logically. This is why I don't
think (at least am not convinced by any argument I've seen) that there
is much to be gained by looking at the order of different methods of
fixation chiefly
Joe, Kirsti, list,
[[ Well, Gary, it looks like some fancy footwork with the term is
rooted in might have to be resorted to if we are to save Peirce on this
one! You've caught him with a flat contradiction there! ]]
Personally i think the contradiction is more apparent than flat. As i
said (and
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Joe, Kirsti, list,
[[ Well, Gary, it looks like some fancy footwork with the term is
rooted in might have to be resorted to if we are to save Peirce on this
one! You've caught him with a flat
Bill, Joe, list,
Well, the Pluto example is an intriguing one.
BB: The experiential evolution in the conception of Pluto as a planet can be described as the new information that surprised even the scientists. This scenario seems to me to fit pretty well Peirce's sketch of the way things
nce].
My words are in brackets
Joe Ransdell
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science, or, as he also calls it,in How to Make Our Ideas Clear, the method
of experience]."My
words are in bracketsJoe
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of experience].
My words are in brackets
Joe Ransdell
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Joe and list,
It is difficult to tell exactly what those two psychological laws are from the text. (preceding the quote below) It is also difficult to frame them universally. Either we talk of all men at all times or some men at all times or all men at some time or another. I think we could
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Let's go back to a short MS from 1869-70 (available on-line,
from
nal!
Joe
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From Martin Lefebvre
To: Peirce Discussion Forum peirce-l@lyris.ttu.eduSent: Monday, September 25, 2006 11:40:01 AMSubject: [peirce-l] Re: What "fundamenal psychological laws" is Peirce referring to?
Joe, Kristi, list,
At the risk of offering a post hoc, erg
Joe Bill,
Joe, I agree with Bill in that I do not see any reason why the order of the methods of tenacity and that of authority should be reversed. But that wasn't the impulse which caused me to start writing this response :). It was the two fundamental psychological laws on the title you gave,
ROTECTED]To: Peirce Discussion Forum peirce-l@lyris.ttu.eduSent: Sunday, September 24, 2006 8:50:46 AMSubject: [peirce-l] Re: What "fundamenal psychological laws" is Peirce referring to?Joe Bill,Joe, I agree with Bill in that I do not see any reason why the order of the methods
cing a fourth as well, which could be the first three
considered AS ordered, I suppose. (But I am not arguing that.)
What are the other possible kinds of
dissonance reduction that Festinger identifies, by the way?Joe
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D] . . - Original Message ----From: Bill Bailey [EMAIL PROTECTED]To: Peirce Discussion Forum peirce-l@lyris.ttu.eduSent: Saturday, September 23, 2006 1:21:48 PMSubject: [peirce-l] Re: What "fundamenal psychological laws" is Peirce referring to? Joe, thanks for your respo
Joe, I don't understand why you think the order might be
reversed. To resort to authority is essentially to cease thinking and to
unquestioningly accept. There's no cognitive dissonanceavoidance
necessary. But if we begin with trying to avoid dissonance, and society
forces us to confront
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