Re: Re: Re: Re: What is science

2002-10-14 Thread Carrol Cox
by Plato. Carrol - Original Message - From: Carrol Cox [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Sunday, October 13, 2002 7:55 AM Subject: [PEN-L:31316] Re: Re: What is science Charles Jannuzi wrote: The science report is that sad sick pretense of an exercise in c

Re: Re: Re: What is science

2002-10-13 Thread Carl Remick
From: Carrol Cox [EMAIL PROTECTED] ... Both (Carl Sceptical Inquirer) are pitching religous woo-woo and can't tell us much about the actual world. Carrol Woo-woo it may be, but it is of a decidedly irreligious nature. Know then thyself, presume not God to scan, what? The proper study of

Re: Re: Re: What is science

2002-10-13 Thread ken hanly
Hanly... - Original Message - From: Carrol Cox [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Sunday, October 13, 2002 7:55 AM Subject: [PEN-L:31316] Re: Re: What is science Charles Jannuzi wrote: The science report is that sad sick pretense of an exercise in c/v building

RE: Re: RE: what is science?

2002-10-12 Thread Devine, James
Title: RE: [PEN-L:31275] Re: RE: what is science? In reference to my comment on the normal role of intuition (e.g., Einstein) in science, Ian writes: What's the difference between intuition and guess? and explains: It may matter somewhat if we are to discern not only the cognitive

Re: Re: Re: RE: Re: RE: what is science?

2002-10-12 Thread Carl Remick
The errors of SCIENCE will never be corrected by the kind of critique Carl offers because what Carl is attacking doesn't exist Carrol What a relief. Would that were true for everything I attack. Carl _ Send and receive

RE: Re: RE: what is science?

2002-10-11 Thread Devine, James
Title: RE: [PEN-L:31261] Re: RE: what is science? said I: BTW, I still want to know what the alternative is to scientific (logical-empirical) thinking. Carl: I'd say intuition, but that's only a hunch :) ha! of course, contrary to scientistic/positivistic propaganda, intuition

Re: RE: Re: RE: what is science?

2002-10-11 Thread ravi
Devine, James wrote: of course, contrary to scientistic/positivistic propaganda, intuition is part of science. What was Einstein, if not intuitive? (I'm told that his math wasn't very good.) Scientists use their intuition all the time. But then the products of intution that can't be validated

Re: RE: Re: RE: what is science?

2002-10-11 Thread Ian Murray
RE: [PEN-L:31261] Re: RE: what is science? - Original Message - From: Devine, James said I: BTW, I still want to know what the alternative is to scientific (logical-empirical) thinking. Carl: I'd say intuition, but that's only a hunch :) ha! of course, contrary to scientistic

Re: RE: Re: RE: what is science?

2002-10-11 Thread Eugene Coyle
If what "can't be validated logically or empirically" falls by the wayside, how/why do we have economics? In confronting mainstream micro purveyors, anything empirical put before their noses is dismissed as "anecdotal." An intuition that is validated by unfolding events is "anecdotal." Meanwhile

Re: Re: RE: Re: RE: what is science?

2002-10-11 Thread Carrol Cox
Ian Murray wrote: What's the difference between intuition and guess? What's the difference between intuition and analysis? At least according to Susanne Langer analysis is dependent on intuition. Her example: Suppose someone admits that All men are mortal and that Socrates is a Man, but

Re: Re: RE: Re: RE: what is science?

2002-10-11 Thread Carrol Cox
Eugene Coyle wrote: If what can't be validated logically or empirically falls by the wayside, how/why do we have economics? In confronting mainstream micro purveyors, anything empirical put before their noses is dismissed as anecdotal. An intuition that is validated by unfolding

RE: Re: RE: Re: RE: what is science?

2002-10-11 Thread Devine, James
Title: RE: [PEN-L:31272] Re: RE: Re: RE: what is science? I wrote: of course, contrary to scientistic/positivistic propaganda, intuition is part of science. What was Einstein, if not intuitive? (I'm told that his math wasn't very good.) Scientists use their intuition all the time