G'Day Economists,
After discussions in the Pushing Limits Collective, I've decided I find
myself on the other side of the line from Sasha. So my name will appear on
the letter from the other side.
In that regard, first the context. The turnaround at Pacifica in my view
was a signal of the end
shit, if that's the dude's defence he'll be lucky if he doesn't get the
chair!
dd
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Michael
Sent: 15 August 2004 05:10
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Subject: Shleifer update
Harvard and Shleifer say that the
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What made Soviet socialism . . . real existing
socialism was the legal system and ownership rights -
property rights, that prevented anything other than
means of consumption passing into the hands of
individuals. That is to say . . . means of production
could not pass
--- Carrol Cox [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
Secondly, the primary Marxist point about capitalism
was that,
destructive of human life as capitalism had been from
its very
beginning
(the advances for the few from the beginning
disguising the greater
horror for the many), it _had_ opened up the
--- andie nachgeborenen So I'll use it anyway. I
don't care if it isn't a Russian word, I don't think
the Russians understand the Soviet era any better than
Western specialists. Which isn't very well -- I speak
having been one once.
--
Well, the Russians (Ukrainians, Latvians, etc. etc.
etc.) do
Anders Aslund says the same thing. He's the David
Irving of post-Soviet studies.
--- Daniel Davies [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
shit, if that's the dude's defence he'll be lucky if
he doesn't get the
chair!
dd
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Thanks Patrick! That was very informative.
As you may know, we have a similar problem here -- not
with water, but with electricity and heating -- but
for different reasons. The Far East and Siberia are
plagued with shutoffs of electricity (in Siberia, in
winter). This is because, in Russia,
I assume you mean that he will become the chair of Harvard's econ.
department. After all, wasn't he close to Summers?
Daniel wrote: shit, if that's the dude's defence he'll be lucky if he
doesn't get the
chair!
dd
Michael Perelman
Economics Department
California State University
Chico, CA
Generally, it is a bad idea to challenge another member directly in the
heading, since it sets off flames, but I cannot think of many people
less inclined to intemperate behavior than Doyle and Sasha. If she
wants to open a dialogue that could help matters at Pacifica, I would be
glad to see the
---Didn't the Bolsheviks at one point deliberately try toimmitate aspects of American big capital? (I'mreviewing Yale Rochmond's Cultural Exchange and theCold War, and he asserts this.)* *
Lenin expressly holds up Taylorism as an ideal for Soviet industry at a couple of points. I could find the
The whole matter of workers control and democratic input in the actual production process or what I understand to be the collective intellectual and emotional passions of the working class . . . and giving this broad _expression_ . . . has driven me up the wall for twenty years of my working
Justin (converted to plain text from html code): Lenin expressly holds
up Taylorism as an ideal for Soviet industry at a couple of points. I
could find the references if you wanted. But I think the Bolshies were
more impressed with German war planning planning, which was more
familiar to them.
I agree with your reservations about the term Stalinism, I just don't have a better one.
I agree with about the good Czar with under Stalinism, but that is not an example of socialist democracy -- I don't think you think it is either.
jksChris Doss [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
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Lenin expressly holds up Taylorism as an ideal for Soviet industry at a couple of points. I could find the references if you wanted. But I think the Bolshies were more impressed with German war planning
Carrol Cox wrote:
If necessary labor (in Hannah Arendt's sense of _merely_ necessary
labor
in contrast to work or action) is to be reduced to the absolute
minimum,
and men/women are to be fishers in the morning and critics in the
afternoon, that necessary labor needs to be rationalized and
Greetings Economists,
Thanks Michael for giving me the leeway to using Sasha's name this way. You
are right though and I was careless to word things this way. A flame war is
far from my intent. But we all know how certain sorts of approaches
facilitate that. Also Sasha I hope you feel also
4) Chávez Loyalists Troll Barrios for Venezuela's Undecided
Juan Forero
New York Times
August 15, 2004
http://www.nytimes.com/2004/08/15/international/americas/15venezuela.html
CARACAS, Venezuela, Aug. 14 - Evelyn Uzcanga, 27, is all Chavista, all the
time, a fervent believer in President Hugo
Yahoo News says that the turnout is heavy. If so, that is great news.
Michael Perelman
Economics Department
California State University
Chico, CA
95929
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