Re: [pestlist] anoxic treatment update and more questions

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Hi Nicole
As Pascal mentioned, the temperature is going to be critical in ensuring
that you achieve 100% mortality. When testing powderpost beetles Dr Mark
Gilberg found that it took up to 12 days to kill all stages at 30C and
70RH. You’re using a lower RH than in that test which should reduce the
time, but it takes longer to kill insects at lower temperatures (i.e. up to
6 weeks at 20C). If the temperature where you are treating the objects is
low you will need to increase the temp.
Oxygen scavengers take a number of days to reduce the oxygen level so you
need to allow for this when thinking about treatment time as well.
Regarding the Anobium life cycle, the adults emerge in late spring/ early
summer. This means that there would be minimal risk of cross-infestation as
the borers will be in the larval stage at this time (unless they are from
the southern hemisphere, e.g. Australia, where the beetles are emerging
now).
Best wishes
Alex


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> what temperature do you have for your treatment and what pest (in wood or
> others?). if you have about 25 C and the anoxia systhem is working, you
> should have 0,0 % Oxygen and 3 weeks should be enough. For wood boring
> pests it should be fine also, but they one of are the hardest to kill with
> anoxia.
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> All the best from Europe,
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> Pascal
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> Hello lists (crossposting with OSG and Pests),
> Thank you all for your help and advice in designing an anoxic system. I
> was able to order the RP-K oxygen scavengers direct from Mitsubishi and
> since there were none in stock in all of North America they shipped them
> all the way from Tokyo. My RH is holding at 45%, which is good. Also, a
> very generous colleague has lent us an oxygen detecting system.
>
> I am writing now to ask if anyone - particularly perhaps the bug experts
> on the Pest list - can tell me about the life cycle of the Anobiidae
> family, and if there is any wiggle room on the 21-day recommendation for
> anoxic treatment. The shipment from Japan set us back a few days and we
> will hit the 21-day mark exactly one day after the show opens. What kind of
> risk are we looking at if we choose to take them out after 20 days?
>
> Thanks,
> Nicole
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This is great thank you.

Ironically – it was located on a wall – on the 6th floor of our old, pre-war 
building.  We are working on an internal PSA for staff – to increase buy in – 
and the image of an insect crawling on a wall next to a photograph – is helpful 
– sadly.



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This particular species is Porcellionides pruinosus, a woodlouse that is 
normally associated with manure heaps or compost heaps, but is occasionally 
found under stones, etc.
A check on the grounds around the building may indicate its origin.


Dr A.G.Irwin
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As others have concluded, this is an isopod. Most likely, it wandered in 
beneath a door, through a non-sealed utility penetration, or was a stowaway on 
a box or within potted plants brought into the facility. With few exceptions, 
isopods are inconsequential. They'll perish from desiccation in a matter of 
days or so, unless they're in a basement or other site where it is particularly 
humid, or where there's a ready source of water.



These do feast upon organic matter. One isopod won't likely cause damage to 
artifacts within a museum. Damage can, indeed, become a concern if you 
regularly find these in museum exhibit or storage areas. Such observations 
should stimulate efforts to limit their entrance and survival. Check exterior 
doors to ensure that the door bottoms seal well. If you can see light beneath 
the door, then the door isn't secure against pests. Then, check ground level 
windows and utility penetrations. Sealing up any openings will be a 
sustainable, environmentally appropriate and fiscally prudent strategy.



-Rich


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Dear Lisa

Looks like an isopod (not an expert, but possibly a rolypoly/woodlouse). Not a 
threat to collections. Unless someone has been moving rotting wood or leaf 
litter through the museum,  it probably came from outside on somone’s shoes.

Best

RE: [pestlist] FW: Bug

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THANKS!

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Dear Lisa

Looks like an isopod (not an expert, but possibly a rolypoly/woodlouse). Not a 
threat to collections. Unless someone has been moving rotting wood or leaf 
litter through the museum,  it probably came from outside on somone’s shoes.

Best

JP

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This was found on a wall in a gallery.  Does anyone have thoughts on its ID?  
Not something we've seen before.

Thanks in advance.

Lisa Bruno
Carol Lee Shen Chief Conservator
Brooklyn Museum
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Re: [pestlist] FW: Bug

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This particular species is *Porcellionides pruinosus*, a woodlouse that is
normally associated with manure heaps or compost heaps, but is occasionally
found under stones, etc.
A check on the grounds around the building may indicate its origin.


Dr A.G.Irwin
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Norfolk NR2 3PH
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> As others have concluded, this is an isopod. Most likely, it wandered in
> beneath a door, through a non-sealed utility penetration, or was a stowaway
> on a box or within potted plants brought into the facility. With few
> exceptions, isopods are inconsequential. They'll perish from desiccation in
> a matter of days or so, unless they're in a basement or other site where it
> is particularly humid, or where there's a ready source of water.
>
>
> These do feast upon organic matter. One isopod won't likely cause damage
> to artifacts within a museum. Damage can, indeed, become a concern if you
> regularly find these in museum exhibit or storage areas. Such observations
> should stimulate efforts to limit their entrance and survival. Check
> exterior doors to ensure that the door bottoms seal well. If you can see
> light beneath the door, then the door isn't secure against pests. Then,
> check ground level windows and utility penetrations. Sealing up any
> openings will be a sustainable, environmentally appropriate and fiscally
> prudent strategy.
>
>
> -Rich
>
>
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> Looks like an isopod (not an expert, but possibly a rolypoly/woodlouse).
> Not a threat to collections. Unless someone has been moving rotting wood or
> leaf litter through the museum,  it probably came from outside on somone’s
> shoes.
>
> Best
>
> JP
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> This was found on a wall in a gallery.  Does anyone have thoughts on its
> ID?  Not something we've seen before.
>
> Thanks in advance.
>
> Lisa Bruno
> Carol Lee Shen Chief Conservator
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As others have concluded, this is an isopod. Most likely, it wandered in 
beneath a door, through a non-sealed utility penetration, or was a stowaway on 
a box or within potted plants brought into the facility. With few exceptions, 
isopods are inconsequential. They'll perish from desiccation in a matter of 
days or so, unless they're in a basement or other site where it is particularly 
humid, or where there's a ready source of water.


These do feast upon organic matter. One isopod won't likely cause damage to 
artifacts within a museum. Damage can, indeed, become a concern if you 
regularly find these in museum exhibit or storage areas. Such observations 
should stimulate efforts to limit their entrance and survival. Check exterior 
doors to ensure that the door bottoms seal well. If you can see light beneath 
the door, then the door isn't secure against pests. Then, check ground level 
windows and utility penetrations. Sealing up any openings will be a 
sustainable, environmentally appropriate and fiscally prudent strategy.


-Rich

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Environmental Health, Safety and Emergency Management (EHSEM)
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Cambridge, MA 02139
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Dear Lisa

Looks like an isopod (not an expert, but possibly a rolypoly/woodlouse). Not a 
threat to collections. Unless someone has been moving rotting wood or leaf 
litter through the museum,  it probably came from outside on somone’s shoes.

Best

JP

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This was found on a wall in a gallery.  Does anyone have thoughts on its ID?  
Not something we've seen before.

Thanks in advance.

Lisa Bruno
Carol Lee Shen Chief Conservator
Brooklyn Museum
200 Eastern Parkway, Brooklyn, NY 11238-6052
P 718-501-6562




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It’s an isopod. Commonly called a woodlouse or sowbug (as Todd noted). It’s not 
one that can roll itself into a perfect sphere, but can roll up a little. 
Usually roly-poly refers to those species that can ball up into spheres for 
defense.  It’s from outdoors and come in around doorways, windows, up on walls, 
cracks in foundations, and live under rocks, logs, in leaf litter and mulch, 
etc.
When these die (as in other arthropods as well) they become food for foraging 
dermestid beetle larvae.

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Dear Lisa

Looks like an isopod (not an expert, but possibly a rolypoly/woodlouse). Not a 
threat to collections. Unless someone has been moving rotting wood or leaf 
litter through the museum,  it probably came from outside on somone’s shoes.

Best

JP

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This was found on a wall in a gallery.  Does anyone have thoughts on its ID?  
Not something we've seen before.

Thanks in advance.

Lisa Bruno
Carol Lee Shen Chief Conservator
Brooklyn Museum
200 Eastern Parkway, Brooklyn, NY 11238-6052
P 718-501-6562




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My guess would be a "sowbug".  If that is what it is, my understanding is
they are not a threat to artwork.  It can be common for them to come
in through cracks in a foundation.

-Todd

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> ID?  Not something we've seen before.
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Re: [pestlist] FW: Bug

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Hi Lisa. Happy New Year!

Your critter is a sow bug. Came in from the cold. May have been in a sheltered 
area somewhere in the museum and decided to take a stroll. Not a museum threat. 
  Carpet beetle larvae don’t seem to eat their carcasses. 

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Re: [pestlist] Moth ID Help

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Based on the photos I also agree that these are not clothes moths but what
I've heard called brown house moths. I was once told that they are related
to clothes moths which is why they end up in pheromone lures.
Sharon

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> I have to say that none of these moths looks like *Tinea pellionella* or 
> *Phereoeca
> uterella. *My guess is that they are all accidentals from outside. I'm
> happy to have a look at some specimens, and will be able to say if they are
> one of the pest species, but my familiarity with the North American "wild"
> microlepidoptera borders on the non-existent, so approaching a local
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>> To my eye they are all casemaking clothes moths. They have been known to
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>> has been showing up on pheromone traps with webbing clothes moth and
>> casemaking clothes moth lures. Only adults have been found.
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>>
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I have to say that none of these moths looks like *Tinea pellionella*
or *Phereoeca
uterella. *My guess is that they are all accidentals from outside. I'm
happy to have a look at some specimens, and will be able to say if they are
one of the pest species, but my familiarity with the North American "wild"
microlepidoptera borders on the non-existent, so approaching a local
lepidopterist might be your best bet for a definitive answer.
Best wishes
Tony

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> has been showing up on pheromone traps with webbing clothes moth and
> casemaking clothes moth lures. Only adults have been found.
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> Thanks in advance,
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RE: [pestlist] Moth ID Help

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Hello,

To my eye they are all casemaking clothes moths. They have been known to travel 
through air ducts.

Matthew A. Mickletz - Manager, Preventive Conservation - Winterthur 
Museum - 302.888.4752
IPM Working Group Co-Chair

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Can anyone identify these two sets of moths? We've been finding them in 
mechanical rooms and near exterior doors. The smaller moth (photo "Moth3") has 
been showing up on pheromone traps with webbing clothes moth and casemaking 
clothes moth lures. Only adults have been found.

Thanks in advance,
Megan

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RE: [pestlist] Moth ID Help

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I would also appreciate an ID on this particular moth. I’ve been finding them 
off and on for several months.

Heidi Mead
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I would like to know as well. I been seeing the same moth in the HVAC filters 
and occasionally flying around the office area. I have yet to find them in any 
pheromone traps. I posted photos about a month ago asking if anyone could ID 
the moths but didn't get a definitive answer if they were related to webbing 
clothes or casemaking clothes moths.

 - Jennifer

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Dear PestList,

Can anyone identify these two sets of moths? We’ve been finding them in 
mechanical rooms and near exterior doors. The smaller moth (photo “Moth3”) has 
been showing up on pheromone traps with webbing clothes moth and casemaking 
clothes moth lures. Only adults have been found.

Thanks in advance,
Megan

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Re: [pestlist] Moth ID Help

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I would like to know as well. I been seeing the same moth in the HVAC
filters and occasionally flying around the office area. I have yet to find
them in any pheromone traps. I posted photos about a month ago asking if
anyone could ID the moths but didn't get a definitive answer if they were
related to webbing clothes or casemaking clothes moths.

 - Jennifer

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> mechanical rooms and near exterior doors. The smaller moth (photo “Moth3”)
> has been showing up on pheromone traps with webbing clothes moth and
> casemaking clothes moth lures. Only adults have been found.
>
>
>
> Thanks in advance,
>
> Megan
>
>
>
> Megan Mizuta
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RE: [pestlist] Anoxic treatment

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We currently use anoxia treatments on an as-needed basis using Mavelseal bags 
we make to the size needed, and Ageless ZPT-2000. We have needed to treat less 
than 10 objects in the last year, most with multiple materials, including 
feathers, and some archaeological wood.

We no longer include indicators- they are unreliable- but with the  small size 
of most of our bags/anoxia chambers it’s possible to observe the 20% reduction 
in volume within the first 24 hours.  I have used a Hobo inside the bag to 
record changes in RH as well.

The RH will drop by a small percentage but NOT  to zero! I have used acid free 
tissue paper as an RH buffer as well as for surface protection, and have used 
silica gel for larger volume or more vulnerable objects.

This is a  reliable if limited solution- it is slow and it cannot be monitored 
exactly,  but is effective and cost effective  for our needs.. We are 
considering a freezer and have access to a tent-system if a larger scale 
treatment is ever needed.

Casey



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I have a couple of questions about anoxic pest treatments using oxygen 
scavengers. I more commonly use low-temperature treatment and I'm more familiar 
with that technique, but I understand the anoxia is recommended for laminate 
structures and painted wood.

My first question is about oxygen indicators. I know that the Ageless 
indicators are prone to failure, but more sophisticated instrumentation is 
expensive. I have received quotes for both the MOCON OpTech Model P and the 
PreSens Fibox 4, but at over $5K they are out of our budget for this fiscal 
year. Does anyone have a less expensive solution, or, alternately, equipment 
that we could rent for a singe project?

My second question has do to with the basic premise that anoxia is safer than 
freezing, and the basis of my concern is relative humidity. With anoxia induced 
by oxygen scavengers (which is the system I have available to me) the RH 
ultimately goes to 0% - or else the scavengers aren’t working. 21 days of this 
does not seem safer than 72 hours of freezing - what am I missing?

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Re: [pestlist] Pheromone Pest Control Traps (UNCLASSIFIED)

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I agree with Pascal's cogent explanation below.  One of the key components
in an effective IPM program is exclusion/structural integrity.  For any
type of trapping program to work, efforts must be taken to physically
exclude the pest from the structure.  If the 'conservators' were speaking
in the context of large, porous structures such as warehouses, old
barracks, hangars, or museums in re-purposed historic military buildings,
then their warnings could be applicable.  As a blanket statement, however,
it doesn't make much sense.

We have used pheromone traps in the Minnesota History Center to track down
the source of a clothes moth infestation and they worked very well.

Paul Storch
Minnesota Historical Society

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> I must say that the advice from the two conservators giving the course was
> not very precise!! I give a lot of IPM courses in Europe and other places,
> and usually we get this question at every workshop, here is my standard
> answer:
>
> 1. Yes it is possible that we attract animals from outside, but place
> pheromone traps in the center of the room at least 5-10m from windows and
> doors to prevent this. -> easy to prevent
>
> 2. Usually sex pheromones for moths and carpet beetles will only attract
> the males and you need a female laying eggs to start an infestation. -> so
> no big problem!
>
> 3. If I have the feeling that there is a source of moths outside of the
> building, this is a very important information and I place one trap inside
> and one outside to have a reliable answer to this question. If they really
> come from outside (a bird nest or dead animal can be a source of the
> infestation) your collection inside is at risk to get infested -> get rid
> of the problem
>
> 4. If you use food bait for mice (or some beetles) yes you can attract
> animals from outside so you have to think if the information is useful and
> important for you.
>
> Pheromone traps are a very important tool for the monitoring of many pests
> and I use hundreds for webbing clothes moths in many buildings, they
> collect a lot of important information’s for the IPM!!
>
>
>
> All the best from Vienna,
>
>
>
> Pascal
>
>
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>
> Good morning. I work for the US Army at one of their museums and we use
> pheromone pest control traps, especially for carpet beetles. One of my
> staff was at a US Army museums course two weeks ago and was told by two
> conservators that all pheromone traps must be removed from all Army museums
> as they lure bugs in from outside with the pheromone - like through doors
> and windows. They stated that it attracts more insects in to the buildings
> and makes it more difficult to control pests (we have these pheromone traps
> as well as ground traps near doors and windows to catch anything coming in
> - no carpet beetles in the floor traps but we do get a couple in the
> pheromone traps). I have never heard of this happening before and wanted to
> check to see anyone has heard of this or knew approximately how far one of
> the pheromone traps "odor" went out from the trap. I just can't see that
> one of these small traps can lure insects through doors and walls like the
> two conservators stated. Any information you could provide would be greatly
> appreciated.
>
>
>
> Thank you.
>
>
>
> Scott A. Neel, PhD
>
> Director / Curator
>
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If you have pheromone traps in multiple sites that are successfully trapping 
carpet beetles (which would be males)I would be worried about pulling them 
without educating staff on specific sanitation procedure and setting up 
protocols on targeted vacuuming to break the cycle. You will have males on the 
loose looking to  procreate. The building envelopes should be evaluated as well 
at chronic hot spots. Then I would say it would be safer to scale back 
some..But I would think it unwise to say none ever as they can be quite the 
resource for pin pointing a breach or source. JTV


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Dear Scott,



I must say that the advice from the two conservators giving the course was not 
very precise!! I give a lot of IPM courses in Europe and other places, and 
usually we get this question at every workshop, here is my standard answer:

1. Yes it is possible that we attract animals from outside, but place pheromone 
traps in the center of the room at least 5-10m from windows and doors to 
prevent this. -> easy to prevent

2. Usually sex pheromones for moths and carpet beetles will only attract the 
males and you need a female laying eggs to start an infestation. -> so no big 
problem!

3. If I have the feeling that there is a source of moths outside of the 
building, this is a very important information and I place one trap inside and 
one outside to have a reliable answer to this question. If they really come 
from outside (a bird nest or dead animal can be a source of the infestation) 
your collection inside is at risk to get infested -> get rid of the problem

4. If you use food bait for mice (or some beetles) yes you can attract animals 
from outside so you have to think if the information is useful and important 
for you.

Pheromone traps are a very important tool for the monitoring of many pests and 
I use hundreds for webbing clothes moths in many buildings, they collect a lot 
of important information’s for the IPM!!



All the best from Vienna,



Pascal




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Good morning. I work for the US Army at one of their museums and we use 
pheromone pest control traps, especially for carpet beetles. One of my staff 
was at a US Army museums course two weeks ago and was told by two conservators 
that all pheromone traps must be removed from all Army museums as they lure 
bugs in from outside with the pheromone - like through doors and windows. They 
stated that it attracts more insects in to the buildings and makes it more 
difficult to control pests (we have these pheromone traps as well as ground 
traps near doors and windows to catch anything coming in - no carpet beetles in 
the floor traps but we do get a couple in the pheromone traps). I have never 
heard of this happening before and wanted to check to see anyone has heard of 
this or knew approximately how far one of the pheromone traps "odor" went out 
from the trap. I just can't see that one of these small traps can lure insects 
through doors and walls like the two conservators stated. Any information you 
could provide would be greatly appreciated.



Thank you.



Scott A. Neel, PhD

Director / Curator

Fort Sill National Historic Landmark and Museum

US Army Fires Center of Excellence

372 Gannahl Road

Fort Sill, OK 73503

Office: 580-442-6570

Fax: 580-442-0552

Website: 
https://urldefense.proofpoint.com/v2/url?u=http-3A__sill-2Dwww.army.mil_museum_=DwIGaQ=o14_68DQy6cMJf5D8ZSrZQ=h76q8gSEGveT_ArI6lhAokkItVFZcy_coqmo_UG_Ha8=0OBHW9YpYiFvGakDNIa6ni3MRohiGpDHHXMOFqI93Nc=fUw1bNv8j_qKJu9vhMDvpwrncaC2I-G9qNKNwRKCb2Y=

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Hi,

I completely agree with Pascal and have had a lot of experience with the
webbing clothes moth lures. the only think I would add is that they are not
intended to get rid of an infestation (as Pascal said they only attract the
males) but they are a great way of pinning down the source. I think you
need to use your own digression. If you don't feel they are causing a
problem then keep using them. I have spoken to many entomologist and they
all seem to agree that unless you actually hang it in a open window you
shouldn't attract too many outside pest.

Hope this helps.

Sharon Penton

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> I must say that the advice from the two conservators giving the course was
> not very precise!! I give a lot of IPM courses in Europe and other places,
> and usually we get this question at every workshop, here is my standard
> answer:
>
> 1. Yes it is possible that we attract animals from outside, but place
> pheromone traps in the center of the room at least 5-10m from windows and
> doors to prevent this. -> easy to prevent
>
> 2. Usually sex pheromones for moths and carpet beetles will only attract
> the males and you need a female laying eggs to start an infestation. -> so
> no big problem!
>
> 3. If I have the feeling that there is a source of moths outside of the
> building, this is a very important information and I place one trap inside
> and one outside to have a reliable answer to this question. If they really
> come from outside (a bird nest or dead animal can be a source of the
> infestation) your collection inside is at risk to get infested -> get rid
> of the problem
>
> 4. If you use food bait for mice (or some beetles) yes you can attract
> animals from outside so you have to think if the information is useful and
> important for you.
>
> Pheromone traps are a very important tool for the monitoring of many pests
> and I use hundreds for webbing clothes moths in many buildings, they
> collect a lot of important information’s for the IPM!!
>
>
>
> All the best from Vienna,
>
>
>
> Pascal
>
>
>
> CLASSIFICATION: UNCLASSIFIED
>
>
>
> Good morning. I work for the US Army at one of their museums and we use
> pheromone pest control traps, especially for carpet beetles. One of my
> staff was at a US Army museums course two weeks ago and was told by two
> conservators that all pheromone traps must be removed from all Army museums
> as they lure bugs in from outside with the pheromone - like through doors
> and windows. They stated that it attracts more insects in to the buildings
> and makes it more difficult to control pests (we have these pheromone traps
> as well as ground traps near doors and windows to catch anything coming in
> - no carpet beetles in the floor traps but we do get a couple in the
> pheromone traps). I have never heard of this happening before and wanted to
> check to see anyone has heard of this or knew approximately how far one of
> the pheromone traps "odor" went out from the trap. I just can't see that
> one of these small traps can lure insects through doors and walls like the
> two conservators stated. Any information you could provide would be greatly
> appreciated.
>
>
>
> Thank you.
>
>
>
> Scott A. Neel, PhD
>
> Director / Curator
>
> Fort Sill National Historic Landmark and Museum
>
> US Army Fires Center of Excellence
>
> 372 Gannahl Road
>
> Fort Sill, OK 73503
>
> Office: 580-442-6570 <(580)%20442-6570>
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> Fax: 580-442-0552 <(580)%20442-0552>
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> 2Dwww.army.mil_museum_=DwIGaQ=o14_68DQy6cMJf5D8ZSrZQ=h76q8gSEGveT_
> ArI6lhAokkItVFZcy_coqmo_UG_Ha8=0OBHW9YpYiFvGakDNIa6ni3MRohiGp
> DHHXMOFqI93Nc=fUw1bNv8j_qKJu9vhMDvpwrncaC2I-G9qNKNwRKCb2Y=
>
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> facebook.com_pages_Fort-2DSill-2DNational-2DHistoric-
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Re: [pestlist] Pheromone Pest Control Traps (UNCLASSIFIED)

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Group -
 
The answer from the person in Vienna was excellent.  Let me add:
 
Pheromone lures positioned on traps only work in fairly still air.  The 
molecules of the lure have to build up a bit to attract the male moths.  Any 
molecules making their way outdoors would be diluted by even a slight wind and 
not leave a "trail" sufficient for the males to follow.
 
Thomas A. Parker, PhD
President, Entomologist
Pest Control Services, Inc.
 
 
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Good morning.  I work for the US Army at one of their museums and we use 
pheromone pest control traps, especially for carpet beetles.  One of my staff 
was at a US Army museums course two weeks ago and was told by two conservators 
that all pheromone traps must be removed from all Army museums as they lure 
bugs in from outside with the pheromone - like through doors and windows.  They 
stated that it attracts more insects in to the buildings and makes it more 
difficult to control pests (we have these pheromone traps as well as ground 
traps near doors and windows to catch anything coming in - no carpet beetles in 
the floor traps but we do get a couple in the pheromone traps).  I have never 
heard of this happening before and wanted to check to see anyone has heard of 
this or knew approximately how far one of the pheromone traps "odor" went out 
from the trap.  I just can't see that one of these small traps can lure insects 
through doors and walls like the two conservators stated.  Any information you 
could provide would be greatly appreciated.

Thank you.

Scott A. Neel, PhD
Director / Curator
Fort Sill National Historic Landmark and Museum
US Army Fires Center of Excellence
372 Gannahl Road
Fort Sill, OK   73503
Office:  580-442-6570
Fax:  580-442-0552
Website:  http://sill-www.army.mil/museum/
Facebook:  
https://www.facebook.com/pages/Fort-Sill-National-Historic-Landmark-and 
Museum/368889589827678 

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Dear Scott,

 

I must say that the advice from the two conservators giving the course was not very precise!! I give a lot of IPM courses in Europe and other places, and usually we get this question at every workshop, here is my standard answer:

1. Yes it is possible that we attract animals from outside, but place pheromone traps in the center of the room at least 5-10m from windows and doors to prevent this. -> easy to prevent

2. Usually sex pheromones for moths and carpet beetles will only attract the males and you need a female laying eggs to start an infestation. -> so no big problem!

3. If I have the feeling that there is a source of moths outside of the building, this is a very important information and I place one trap inside and one outside to have a reliable answer to this question. If they really come from outside (a bird nest or dead animal can be a source of the infestation) your collection inside is at risk to get infested -> get rid of the problem

4. If you use food bait for mice (or some beetles) yes you can attract animals from outside so you have to think if the information is useful and important for you. 

Pheromone traps are a very important tool for the monitoring of many pests and I use hundreds for webbing clothes moths in many buildings, they collect a lot of important information’s for the IPM!!

 

All the best from Vienna,

 

Pascal


 

 

 



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Good morning. I work for the US Army at one of their museums and we use pheromone pest control traps, especially for carpet beetles. One of my staff was at a US Army museums course two weeks ago and was told by two conservators that all pheromone traps must be removed from all Army museums as they lure bugs in from outside with the pheromone - like through doors and windows. They stated that it attracts more insects in to the buildings and makes it more difficult to control pests (we have these pheromone traps as well as ground traps near doors and windows to catch anything coming in - no carpet beetles in the floor traps but we do get a couple in the pheromone traps). I have never heard of this happening before and wanted to check to see anyone has heard of this or knew approximately how far one of the pheromone traps "odor" went out from the trap. I just can't see that one of these small traps can lure insects through doors and walls like the two conservators stated. Any information you could provide would be greatly appreciated.



Thank you.



Scott A. Neel, PhD

Director / Curator

Fort Sill National Historic Landmark and Museum

US Army Fires Center of Excellence

372 Gannahl Road

Fort Sill, OK 73503

Office: 580-442-6570

Fax: 580-442-0552

Website: https://urldefense.proofpoint.com/v2/url?u=http-3A__sill-2Dwww.army.mil_museum_=DwIGaQ=o14_68DQy6cMJf5D8ZSrZQ=h76q8gSEGveT_ArI6lhAokkItVFZcy_coqmo_UG_Ha8=0OBHW9YpYiFvGakDNIa6ni3MRohiGpDHHXMOFqI93Nc=fUw1bNv8j_qKJu9vhMDvpwrncaC2I-G9qNKNwRKCb2Y=

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Hi Scott,

I am by no means an expert when it comes to this sort of thing - I am still 
learning myself - but from my understanding, the pheromone or no-pheromone trap 
thing is still heavily up for debate. However...we DO try to avoid pheromone 
traps where I work - unless we have a problem with a particular pest already 
and are trying to catch it (mice, for example).

Hopefully others can chime in with more expert advice for you!

Best of luck,
Laura

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Good morning.  I work for the US Army at one of their museums and we use 
pheromone pest control traps, especially for carpet beetles.  One of my staff 
was at a US Army museums course two weeks ago and was told by two conservators 
that all pheromone traps must be removed from all Army museums as they lure 
bugs in from outside with the pheromone - like through doors and windows.  They 
stated that it attracts more insects in to the buildings and makes it more 
difficult to control pests (we have these pheromone traps as well as ground 
traps near doors and windows to catch anything coming in - no carpet beetles in 
the floor traps but we do get a couple in the pheromone traps).  I have never 
heard of this happening before and wanted to check to see anyone has heard of 
this or knew approximately how far one of the pheromone traps "odor" went out 
from the trap.  I just can't see that one of these small traps can lure insects 
through doors and walls like the two conservators stated.  Any information you 
could provide would be greatly appreciated.



Thank you.



Scott A. Neel, PhD

Director / Curator

Fort Sill National Historic Landmark and Museum

US Army Fires Center of Excellence

372 Gannahl Road

Fort Sill, OK   73503

Office:  580-442-6570

Fax:  580-442-0552

Website:  
https://urldefense.proofpoint.com/v2/url?u=http-3A__sill-2Dwww.army.mil_museum_=DwIGaQ=o14_68DQy6cMJf5D8ZSrZQ=h76q8gSEGveT_ArI6lhAokkItVFZcy_coqmo_UG_Ha8=0OBHW9YpYiFvGakDNIa6ni3MRohiGpDHHXMOFqI93Nc=fUw1bNv8j_qKJu9vhMDvpwrncaC2I-G9qNKNwRKCb2Y=

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I hope that this is the right e-mail and that someone can help us :)
We found a lot of small dead bugs between the canvas (painting) and the 
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Does anyone know what these bugs might be?

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Cool, guys! Thank you very very much, it will be a great addition to
restoration documentation.
Also, we found something that looks like little droppings.Can I send you
photos of that too?

2017-11-23 19:02 GMT+01:00 Thomas Parker :

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Bedbugs 

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I hope that this is the right e-mail and that someone can help us :)
We found a lot of small dead bugs between the canvas (painting) and the 
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Re: [pestlist] ID Help Please!

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Hi Megan
The "cases" are sections of a millipede's cuticle (legs missing). The pouch
could be associated with a moth larva, but might just be a bundle of fluff
that has become stuck to the side of the trap. The millipede bits didn't
get there on their own, so I wonder whether some sweepings have
accidentally found their way into the trap?
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Re: [pestlist] Help with moth ID

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Pretty sure this is not a clothes moth. Have you checked where you air
intake or exit is? There might be a bird nest or a bunch of leaves near by
and they are making there way in through the ducts.
Maybe someone else can I'd them?
Sharon

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> occasion but thought nothing of it. I am wondering if they are a type of
> clothes moth? If they are why aren't they showing up in the pheromone trap
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RE: [pestlist] Mystery bug in textiles

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Thank you for the ID Todd and Bethany!


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Lena,

It looks kind of like a phorid fly.  They sometimes appear in janitor's closets 
around mop buckets and/or standing water in floor drains.  From what I know, I 
don't think they are considered threats to museum objects, other than they 
themselves becoming a food source for other problem insects.

-Todd

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Hi all,

One of my interns found this bug in a box of textiles. (see attached photos)  
I’m guessing it is a type of gnat (?) and thus just by-catch. I just wanted to 
make sure since it is not one that I had seen before.

Thanks!

Lena

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Re: [pestlist] Mystery bug in textiles

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Lena,

It looks kind of like a phorid fly.  They sometimes appear in janitor's
closets around mop buckets and/or standing water in floor drains.  From
what I know, I don't think they are considered threats to museum objects,
other than they themselves becoming a food source for other problem insects.

-Todd

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Re: [pestlist] Suggestions re solutions for termite infestation in the tropics

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Thanks very much for that tip re tape adhesion, Joel.   I will certainly 
remember that.


Best regards.


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Test tape for adhesion to desired plastic bags or sheetings beforehand on a 
practice/Faux object throughout the whole process if materials(tape or bags)or 
cold treatment is new to you. Some tapes appear to stick well and can fail 
during the freeze/rest cycle. JTV






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Hi Todd

Regarding the thickness of the plastic wrap/bags, thicker garbage bags/sheet 
plastic is used mainly as it is stronger when handling and there is less 
moisture transmission through the film than with thinner films. As a rough guide
- disposable shopping bags/bin liners are about 1ml (you should double bag if 
using this type)
- ziplock-style sandwich bags are about 2ml (and some have a moisture barrier 
layer)
- 'tough' garbage/garden refuse bags may be 4-6ml. Many of these types of bags 
have reinforced layers that adds to their strength.

You're not creating an oxygen barrier so holes and tears aren't such an issue. 
If you find scrapes or tears just repair them with tape.

One more thing. When you're freezing a lot of items you may find water 
building-up under and between bags of frozen items. You can reduce this by 
using fans to keep air moving over the objects post freezing.

 Best wishes
Alex

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Hello Everyone,

Good thread- very informative.

Since the topic of freezing is going on here, I was wondering if I could pick 
your brains on a few things.  Hopefully this doesn't take us to far off topic.

1)  Does anyone here have strong opinions about the mil of plastic used in 
freezing treatments?  Is there a good "go to mil" that you like for freezing 
bags?  Is the only downside to a thinner mil its greater likelihood of tearing, 
or does it have a less desirable affect in other aspects of freezing too?

2)  How big of a problem is it, when loading a freezer, if a small scuff is 
made in the plastic?  If there is any hole/scuff in the plastic membrane (even 
a small fraction of an inch) does that compromise the object inside?  If the 
scuff is made only on the outer bag, and it is "double bagged", does that outer 
bag need to be taken off and "re-bagged"?

If anyone has opinions on these issues I would appreciate your feedback.

Thanks!
Todd Holmberg
Collection Maintenance Technician
Minneapolis Institute of Art

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Excellent idea, Joel!  Will save so me much time and tears.


Many thanks.


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Re: [pestlist] Moth identification

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It looks like it could be a Casemaking Cloths moth.  Similar to a Webbing
Cloths moth, but slightly darker wings with spots.  I would try putting a
pheromone lure (specific to Casemaking moths) in the area and see what it
shows after a few weeks.

-Todd



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> clothes moths.
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Test tape for adhesion to desired plastic bags or sheetings beforehand on a 
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cold treatment is new to you. Some tapes appear to stick well and can fail 
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Hi Todd

Regarding the thickness of the plastic wrap/bags, thicker garbage bags/sheet 
plastic is used mainly as it is stronger when handling and there is less 
moisture transmission through the film than with thinner films. As a rough guide
- disposable shopping bags/bin liners are about 1ml (you should double bag if 
using this type)
- ziplock-style sandwich bags are about 2ml (and some have a moisture barrier 
layer)
- 'tough' garbage/garden refuse bags may be 4-6ml. Many of these types of bags 
have reinforced layers that adds to their strength.

You're not creating an oxygen barrier so holes and tears aren't such an issue. 
If you find scrapes or tears just repair them with tape.

One more thing. When you're freezing a lot of items you may find water 
building-up under and between bags of frozen items. You can reduce this by 
using fans to keep air moving over the objects post freezing.

 Best wishes
Alex

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Hello Everyone,

Good thread- very informative.

Since the topic of freezing is going on here, I was wondering if I could pick 
your brains on a few things.  Hopefully this doesn't take us to far off topic.

1)  Does anyone here have strong opinions about the mil of plastic used in 
freezing treatments?  Is there a good "go to mil" that you like for freezing 
bags?  Is the only downside to a thinner mil its greater likelihood of tearing, 
or does it have a less desirable affect in other aspects of freezing too?

2)  How big of a problem is it, when loading a freezer, if a small scuff is 
made in the plastic?  If there is any hole/scuff in the plastic membrane (even 
a small fraction of an inch) does that compromise the object inside?  If the 
scuff is made only on the outer bag, and it is "double bagged", does that outer 
bag need to be taken off and "re-bagged"?

If anyone has opinions on these issues I would appreciate your feedback.

Thanks!
Todd Holmberg
Collection Maintenance Technician
Minneapolis Institute of Art

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Excellent idea, Joel!  Will save so me much time and tears.


Many thanks.


Hazra C. Medica
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Ministry of Sports, Culture & National Festivals
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Hi Todd

Regarding the thickness of the plastic wrap/bags, thicker garbage
bags/sheet plastic is used mainly as it is stronger when handling and there
is less moisture transmission through the film than with thinner films. As
a rough guide
- disposable shopping bags/bin liners are about 1ml (you should double bag
if using this type)
- ziplock-style sandwich bags are about 2ml (and some have a moisture
barrier layer)
- 'tough' garbage/garden refuse bags may be 4-6ml. Many of these types of
bags have reinforced layers that adds to their strength.

You're not creating an oxygen barrier so holes and tears aren't such an
issue. If you find scrapes or tears just repair them with tape.

One more thing. When you're freezing a lot of items you may find water
building-up under and between bags of frozen items. You can reduce this by
using fans to keep air moving over the objects post freezing.

 Best wishes
Alex

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> Since the topic of freezing is going on here, I was wondering if I could
> pick your brains on a few things.  Hopefully this doesn't take us to far
> off topic.
>
> 1)  Does anyone here have strong opinions about the mil of plastic used in
> freezing treatments?  Is there a good "go to mil" that you like
> for freezing bags?  Is the only downside to a thinner mil its greater
> likelihood of tearing, or does it have a less desirable affect in other
> aspects of freezing too?
>
> 2)  How big of a problem is it, when loading a freezer, if a small scuff
> is made in the plastic?  If there is any hole/scuff in the plastic membrane
> (even a small fraction of an inch) does that compromise the object
> inside?  If the scuff is made only on the outer bag, and it is "double
> bagged", does that outer bag need to be taken off and "re-bagged"?
>
> If anyone has opinions on these issues I would appreciate your feedback.
>
> Thanks!
> Todd Holmberg
> Collection Maintenance Technician
> Minneapolis Institute of Art
>
> On Wed, Nov 8, 2017 at 2:13 PM, Hazra Medica <hazra.med...@ab.gov.ag>
> wrote:
>
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>>
>> Excellent idea, Joel!  Will save so me much time and tears.
>>
>>
>> Many thanks.
>>
>>
>> *Hazra C. Medica*
>>
>>
>>
>> *Advisor/Consultant on Cultural Matters Ministry of Trade, Industry,
>> Commerce & Consumer Affairs Ministry of Sports, Culture & National
>> Festivals St. John's  Antigua W.I.*
>>
>>
>> --
>> *From:* pestlist-ow...@museumpests.net <pestlist-ow...@museumpests.net>
>> on behalf of Voron, Joel <jvo...@cwf.org>
>> *Sent:* Wednesday, 08 November 2017 09:09:25
>>
>> *To:* pestlist@museumpests.net
>> *Subject:* Re: [pestlist] Suggestions re solutions for termite
>> infestation in the tropics
>>
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>>If you can make a small breech in the wrap without risking the pieces
>> you could get the desiccant packets in without the hassle of unwrapping
>> them and just tape up the slit.  JTV
>>
>>
>> *Joel Voron   **Colonial Williamsburg Foundation*
>>
>>   Conservation Dept.
>>
>>  Integrated Pest Management
>>
>>   Office 757-220-7080 <(757)%20220-7080>
>>
>> Cell 757-634-1175 <(757)%20634-1175>
>>
>>   E-Mail jvo...@cwf.org
>>
>>
>> [image: 1474552137245_IMG_0499.JPG]
>>
>>
>>
>> --
>> *From:* pestlist-ow...@museumpests.net <pestlist-ow...@museumpests.net>
>> on behalf of Hazra Medica <hazra.med...@ab.gov.ag>
>> *Sent:* Wed

Re: [pestlist] Suggestions re solutions for termite infestation in the tropics

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Hello Everyone,

Good thread- very informative.

Since the topic of freezing is going on here, I was wondering if I could
pick your brains on a few things.  Hopefully this doesn't take us to far
off topic.

1)  Does anyone here have strong opinions about the mil of plastic used in
freezing treatments?  Is there a good "go to mil" that you like
for freezing bags?  Is the only downside to a thinner mil its greater
likelihood of tearing, or does it have a less desirable affect in other
aspects of freezing too?

2)  How big of a problem is it, when loading a freezer, if a small scuff is
made in the plastic?  If there is any hole/scuff in the plastic membrane
(even a small fraction of an inch) does that compromise the object
inside?  If the scuff is made only on the outer bag, and it is "double
bagged", does that outer bag need to be taken off and "re-bagged"?

If anyone has opinions on these issues I would appreciate your feedback.

Thanks!
Todd Holmberg
Collection Maintenance Technician
Minneapolis Institute of Art

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>
> Excellent idea, Joel!  Will save so me much time and tears.
>
>
> Many thanks.
>
>
> *Hazra C. Medica*
>
>
>
> *Advisor/Consultant on Cultural Matters Ministry of Trade, Industry,
> Commerce & Consumer Affairs Ministry of Sports, Culture & National
> Festivals St. John's  Antigua W.I.*
>
>
> --
> *From:* pestlist-ow...@museumpests.net <pestlist-ow...@museumpests.net>
> on behalf of Voron, Joel <jvo...@cwf.org>
> *Sent:* Wednesday, 08 November 2017 09:09:25
>
> *To:* pestlist@museumpests.net
> *Subject:* Re: [pestlist] Suggestions re solutions for termite
> infestation in the tropics
>
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>
>If you can make a small breech in the wrap without risking the pieces
> you could get the desiccant packets in without the hassle of unwrapping
> them and just tape up the slit.  JTV
>
>
> *Joel Voron   **Colonial Williamsburg Foundation*
>
>   Conservation Dept.
>
>  Integrated Pest Management
>
>   Office 757-220-7080 <(757)%20220-7080>
>
> Cell 757-634-1175 <(757)%20634-1175>
>
>   E-Mail jvo...@cwf.org
>
>
> [image: 1474552137245_IMG_0499.JPG]
>
>
>
> ----------
> *From:* pestlist-ow...@museumpests.net <pestlist-ow...@museumpests.net>
> on behalf of Hazra Medica <hazra.med...@ab.gov.ag>
> *Sent:* Wednesday, November 8, 2017 8:02:39 AM
> *To:* pestlist@museumpests.net
> *Subject:* Re: [pestlist] Suggestions re solutions for termite
> infestation in the tropics
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>
> Joel,
>
>
> Thank you for this bit of information.  I'll unwrap and re-wrap with the
> necessary precautions to avoid causing any unnecessary harm.
>
>
> Best regards.
>
>
> *Hazra C. Medica*
>
>
>
> *Advisor/Consultant on Cultural Matters Ministry of Trade, Industry,
> Commerce & Consumer Affairs Ministry of Sports, Culture & National
> Festivals St. John's,  Antigua W.I.*
>
>
> --
> *From:* pestlist-ow...@museumpests.net <pestlist-ow...@museumpests.net>
> on behalf of Voron, Joel <jvo...@cwf.org>
> *Sent:* Wednesday, 08 November 2017 06:31:25
> *To:* pestlist@museumpests.net
> *Subject:* Re: [pestlist] Suggestions re solutions for termite
> infestation in the tropics
>
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> If the RH inside the bags is 30% to 50% mold should not be an issue.
> Usually 60% and above is where you run into problems. JTV
>

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Excellent idea, Joel!  Will save so me much time and tears.


Many thanks.


Hazra C. Medica
Advisor/Consultant on Cultural Matters
Ministry of Trade, Industry, Commerce & Consumer Affairs
Ministry of Sports, Culture & National Festivals
St. John's  Antigua W.I.




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of Voron, Joel <jvo...@cwf.org>
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   If you can make a small breech in the wrap without risking the pieces you 
could get the desiccant packets in without the hassle of unwrapping them and 
just tape up the slit.  JTV


Joel Voron   Colonial Williamsburg Foundation

  Conservation Dept.

 Integrated Pest Management

  Office 757-220-7080

Cell 757-634-1175

  E-Mail jvo...@cwf.org


[1474552137245_IMG_0499.JPG]




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of Hazra Medica <hazra.med...@ab.gov.ag>
Sent: Wednesday, November 8, 2017 8:02:39 AM
To: pestlist@museumpests.net
Subject: Re: [pestlist] Suggestions re solutions for termite infestation in the 
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Joel,


Thank you for this bit of information.  I'll unwrap and re-wrap with the 
necessary precautions to avoid causing any unnecessary harm.


Best regards.


Hazra C. Medica
Advisor/Consultant on Cultural Matters
Ministry of Trade, Industry, Commerce & Consumer Affairs
Ministry of Sports, Culture & National Festivals
St. John's,  Antigua W.I.




From: pestlist-ow...@museumpests.net <pestlist-ow...@museumpests.net> on behalf 
of Voron, Joel <jvo...@cwf.org>
Sent: Wednesday, 08 November 2017 06:31:25
To: pestlist@museumpests.net
Subject: Re: [pestlist] Suggestions re solutions for termite infestation in the 
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If the RH inside the bags is 30% to 50% mold should not be an issue. Usually 
60% and above is where you run into problems. JTV






Joel Voron   Colonial Williamsburg Foundation

  Conservation Dept.

 Integrated Pest Management

  Office 757-220-7080

Cell 757-634-1175

  E-Mail jvo...@cwf.org<mailto:jvo...@cwf.org>





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Hi Alex,


Thank you so much for taking the time out to respond to my questions.  I've 
indeed been thinking freezing might be my best option.  I do have another 
question given your mention of the risk of  mould. How long is it safe to have 
these items bagged/wrapped tightly in plastic before we subject them to 
freezing?  I am trying my best to move rather quickly with this project but 
sometimes things go slow.


Best regards.


Hazra Medica

Advisor/Consultant on Cultural Matters
Ministry of Trade, Industry, Commerce & Consumer Affairs
Ministry of Sports, Culture & National Festivals
St. John's, Antigua W.I.





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Sent: Monday, 06 November 2017 20:31:30
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   If you can make a small breech in the wrap without risking the pieces you 
could get the desiccant packets in without the hassle of unwrapping them and 
just tape up the slit.  JTV


Joel Voron   Colonial Williamsburg Foundation

  Conservation Dept.

 Integrated Pest Management

  Office 757-220-7080

Cell 757-634-1175

  E-Mail jvo...@cwf.org


[1474552137245_IMG_0499.JPG]




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of Hazra Medica <hazra.med...@ab.gov.ag>
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Joel,


Thank you for this bit of information.  I'll unwrap and re-wrap with the 
necessary precautions to avoid causing any unnecessary harm.


Best regards.


Hazra C. Medica
Advisor/Consultant on Cultural Matters
Ministry of Trade, Industry, Commerce & Consumer Affairs
Ministry of Sports, Culture & National Festivals
St. John's,  Antigua W.I.




From: pestlist-ow...@museumpests.net <pestlist-ow...@museumpests.net> on behalf 
of Voron, Joel <jvo...@cwf.org>
Sent: Wednesday, 08 November 2017 06:31:25
To: pestlist@museumpests.net
Subject: Re: [pestlist] Suggestions re solutions for termite infestation in the 
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If the RH inside the bags is 30% to 50% mold should not be an issue. Usually 
60% and above is where you run into problems. JTV






Joel Voron   Colonial Williamsburg Foundation

  Conservation Dept.

 Integrated Pest Management

  Office 757-220-7080

Cell 757-634-1175

  E-Mail jvo...@cwf.org<mailto:jvo...@cwf.org>





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Hi Alex,


Thank you so much for taking the time out to respond to my questions.  I've 
indeed been thinking freezing might be my best option.  I do have another 
question given your mention of the risk of  mould. How long is it safe to have 
these items bagged/wrapped tightly in plastic before we subject them to 
freezing?  I am trying my best to move rather quickly with this project but 
sometimes things go slow.


Best regards.


Hazra Medica

Advisor/Consultant on Cultural Matters
Ministry of Trade, Industry, Commerce & Consumer Affairs
Ministry of Sports, Culture & National Festivals
St. John's, Antigua W.I.





From: pestlist-ow...@museumpests.net<mailto:pestlist-ow...@museumpests.net> 
<pestlist-ow...@museumpests.net<mailto:pestlist-ow...@museumpests.net>> on 
behalf of Alex Roach 
<alexro...@modifiedatmospheres.com.au<mailto:alexro...@modifiedatmospheres.com.au>>
Sent: Monday, 06 November 2017 20:31:30
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Hi Hazra
Bagging infested/suspect materials and freezing will be a great approach for 
treatment of the items.
Storing the (treated) materials up off the floor post freezing (i.e. on blocks 
or tables) will enable you to keep an eye out for further termite attack.
If you're dealing with drywood termites then even small wooden items can 
contain colonies, but again freezing would be a suitable approach (assuming 
items won't be damaged by freezing).
You could go down the low oxygen path for treatment, but it's much more 
expensive. One large bag could be used to treat the entire collection, or you 
could make several smaller bags. The small bag approa

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Joel,


Thank you for this bit of information.  I'll unwrap and re-wrap with the 
necessary precautions to avoid causing any unnecessary harm.


Best regards.


Hazra C. Medica
Advisor/Consultant on Cultural Matters
Ministry of Trade, Industry, Commerce & Consumer Affairs
Ministry of Sports, Culture & National Festivals
St. John's,  Antigua W.I.




From: pestlist-ow...@museumpests.net <pestlist-ow...@museumpests.net> on behalf 
of Voron, Joel <jvo...@cwf.org>
Sent: Wednesday, 08 November 2017 06:31:25
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60% and above is where you run into problems. JTV






Joel Voron   Colonial Williamsburg Foundation

  Conservation Dept.

 Integrated Pest Management

  Office 757-220-7080

Cell 757-634-1175

  E-Mail jvo...@cwf.org<mailto:jvo...@cwf.org>





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Hi Alex,


Thank you so much for taking the time out to respond to my questions.  I've 
indeed been thinking freezing might be my best option.  I do have another 
question given your mention of the risk of  mould. How long is it safe to have 
these items bagged/wrapped tightly in plastic before we subject them to 
freezing?  I am trying my best to move rather quickly with this project but 
sometimes things go slow.


Best regards.


Hazra Medica

Advisor/Consultant on Cultural Matters
Ministry of Trade, Industry, Commerce & Consumer Affairs
Ministry of Sports, Culture & National Festivals
St. John's, Antigua W.I.





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Hi Hazra
Bagging infested/suspect materials and freezing will be a great approach for 
treatment of the items.
Storing the (treated) materials up off the floor post freezing (i.e. on blocks 
or tables) will enable you to keep an eye out for further termite attack.
If you're dealing with drywood termites then even small wooden items can 
contain colonies, but again freezing would be a suitable approach (assuming 
items won't be damaged by freezing).
You could go down the low oxygen path for treatment, but it's much more 
expensive. One large bag could be used to treat the entire collection, or you 
could make several smaller bags. The small bag approach provides you with a 
stable storage environment for the collection while you work through 
cataloging, etc. Another major advantage is that you won't be facing a mould 
problem when it comes time to open the bags (a real risk when leaving items 
bagged in pe in poor conditions).
As for treatment of the termite infestation (if you're looking at staying in 
the same building) it will depend upon the species of termite that is 
attacking, building type and other factors. Assuming that they're subterranean 
termites then baiting may be suitable as it will allow you to destroy the 
colony, but you may also be able to locate and destroy the nest directly.
Best wishes
Alex

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Thanks, Alex!


I did come across a document suggesting the use of a desiccant but that was 
after I had already wrapped the items to protect them from termites and 
hurricanes.  I shall "cheerfully" unwrap everything I've sealed like death and 
do as you have suggested.  Thank you for being so quick and thoughtful with 
your responses.


Warm regards.


Hazra C. Medica
Advisor/Consultant on Cultural Matters
Ministry of Trade, Industry, Commerce & Consumer Affairs
Ministry of Sports, Culture & National Festivals
St. John's,  Antigua W.I.






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of Alex Roach <alexro...@modifiedatmospheres.com.au>
Sent: Tuesday, 07 November 2017 23:35:21
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Hi Hazra
It's a bit hard to say with mould. Some mould attacks can spread very quickly, 
but it depends on the conditions (i.e. heat and rh), the material being stored, 
the mould type and how much mould is present.
Given the urgency of your problem freezing is a good way to go, but maybe you 
could use barrier bags (the ones we use for low oxygen work) instead of PE for 
freezing? The benefits are the conditions inside the bag won't fluctuate like 
they can in PE bags and the barrier properties prevent most pests from finding 
the bagged items (e.g. silverfish). Barrier bags come in a range of pre-fab 
sizes - check with Jerry Shiner at Keepsafe for sizes, etc.
If the storage area is high in humidity then you might want to consider placing 
a desiccant or buffer in the bags before you seal them?
Best wishes
Alex


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Hi Alex,


Thank you so much for taking the time out to respond to my questions.  I've 
indeed been thinking freezing might be my best option.  I do have another 
question given your mention of the risk of  mould. How long is it safe to have 
these items bagged/wrapped tightly in plastic before we subject them to 
freezing?  I am trying my best to move rather quickly with this project but 
sometimes things go slow.


Best regards.


Hazra Medica

Advisor/Consultant on Cultural Matters
Ministry of Trade, Industry, Commerce & Consumer Affairs
Ministry of Sports, Culture & National Festivals
St. John's, Antigua W.I.





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Hi Hazra
Bagging infested/suspect materials and freezing will be a great approach for 
treatment of the items.
Storing the (treated) materials up off the floor post freezing (i.e. on blocks 
or tables) will enable you to keep an eye out for further termite attack.
If you're dealing with drywood termites then even small wooden items can 
contain colonies, but again freezing would be a suitable approach (assuming 
items won't be damaged by freezing).
You could go down the low oxygen path for treatment, but it's much more 
expensive. One large bag could be used to treat the entire collection, or you 
could make several smaller bags. The small bag approach provides you with a 
stable storage environment for the collection while you work through 
cataloging, etc. Another major advantage is that you won't be facing a mould 
problem when it comes time to open the bags (a real risk when leaving items 
bagged in pe in poor conditions).
As for treatment of the termite infestati

Re: [pestlist] Suggestions re solutions for termite infestation in the tropics

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Hi Hazra
It's a bit hard to say with mould. Some mould attacks can spread very
quickly, but it depends on the conditions (i.e. heat and rh), the material
being stored, the mould type and how much mould is present.
Given the urgency of your problem freezing is a good way to go, but maybe
you could use barrier bags (the ones we use for low oxygen work) instead of
PE for freezing? The benefits are the conditions inside the bag won't
fluctuate like they can in PE bags and the barrier properties prevent most
pests from finding the bagged items (e.g. silverfish). Barrier bags come in
a range of pre-fab sizes - check with Jerry Shiner at Keepsafe for sizes,
etc.
If the storage area is high in humidity then you might want to consider
placing a desiccant or buffer in the bags before you seal them?
Best wishes
Alex


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> Hi Alex,
>
>
> Thank you so much for taking the time out to respond to my questions.
> I've indeed been thinking freezing might be my best option.  I do have
> another question given your mention of the risk of  mould. How long is it
> safe to have these items bagged/wrapped tightly in plastic before we
> subject them to freezing?  I am trying my best to move rather quickly with
> this project but sometimes things go slow.
>
>
> Best regards.
>
>
> Hazra Medica
>
> *Advisor/Consultant on Cultural Matters*
>
>
> *Ministry of Trade, Industry, Commerce & Consumer Affairs Ministry of
> Sports, Culture & National Festivals St. John's, Antigua W.I.*
>
>
>
> --
> *From:* pestlist-ow...@museumpests.net <pestlist-ow...@museumpests.net>
> on behalf of Alex Roach <alexro...@modifiedatmospheres.com.au>
> *Sent:* Monday, 06 November 2017 20:31:30
> *To:* pestlist@museumpests.net
>
> *Subject:* Re: [pestlist] Suggestions re solutions for termite
> infestation in the tropics
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> Hi Hazra
> Bagging infested/suspect materials and freezing will be a great approach
> for treatment of the items.
> Storing the (treated) materials up off the floor post freezing (i.e. on
> blocks or tables) will enable you to keep an eye out for further termite
> attack.
> If you're dealing with drywood termites then even small wooden items can
> contain colonies, but again freezing would be a suitable approach (assuming
> items won't be damaged by freezing).
> You could go down the low oxygen path for treatment, but it's much more
> expensive. One large bag could be used to treat the entire collection, or
> you could make several smaller bags. The small bag approach provides you
> with a stable storage environment for the collection while you work through
> cataloging, etc. Another major advantage is that you won't be facing a
> mould problem when it comes time to open the bags (a real risk when leaving
> items bagged in pe in poor conditions).
> As for treatment of the termite infestation (if you're looking at staying
> in the same building) it will depend upon the species of termite that is
> attacking, building type and other factors. Assuming that they're
> subterranean termites then baiting may be suitable as it will allow you to
> destroy the colony, but you may also be able to locate and destroy the nest
> directly.
> Best wishes
> Alex
>
> On Tue, 7 Nov 2017 at 2:11 am, Hazra Medica <hazra.med...@ab.gov.ag>
> wrote:
>
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>
> Thank you so much for that note, Joel.  Admittedly, my main goal right now
> is  attempting to ensure that we're left with something to preserve until I
> get the "go ahead" to have the items removed and the suitable expert
> brought in to safeguard this very valuable collection.
>
>
> *Hazra C. Medica*
>
>
>
> *Advisor/Consultant on Cultural Matters Ministry of Trade, Industry,
> Commerce

Re: [pestlist] Suggestions re solutions for termite infestation in the tropics

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Hi Alex,


Thank you so much for taking the time out to respond to my questions.  I've 
indeed been thinking freezing might be my best option.  I do have another 
question given your mention of the risk of  mould. How long is it safe to have 
these items bagged/wrapped tightly in plastic before we subject them to 
freezing?  I am trying my best to move rather quickly with this project but 
sometimes things go slow.


Best regards.


Hazra Medica

Advisor/Consultant on Cultural Matters
Ministry of Trade, Industry, Commerce & Consumer Affairs
Ministry of Sports, Culture & National Festivals
St. John's, Antigua W.I.





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Subject: Re: [pestlist] Suggestions re solutions for termite infestation in the 
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Hi Hazra
Bagging infested/suspect materials and freezing will be a great approach for 
treatment of the items.
Storing the (treated) materials up off the floor post freezing (i.e. on blocks 
or tables) will enable you to keep an eye out for further termite attack.
If you're dealing with drywood termites then even small wooden items can 
contain colonies, but again freezing would be a suitable approach (assuming 
items won't be damaged by freezing).
You could go down the low oxygen path for treatment, but it's much more 
expensive. One large bag could be used to treat the entire collection, or you 
could make several smaller bags. The small bag approach provides you with a 
stable storage environment for the collection while you work through 
cataloging, etc. Another major advantage is that you won't be facing a mould 
problem when it comes time to open the bags (a real risk when leaving items 
bagged in pe in poor conditions).
As for treatment of the termite infestation (if you're looking at staying in 
the same building) it will depend upon the species of termite that is 
attacking, building type and other factors. Assuming that they're subterranean 
termites then baiting may be suitable as it will allow you to destroy the 
colony, but you may also be able to locate and destroy the nest directly.
Best wishes
Alex

On Tue, 7 Nov 2017 at 2:11 am, Hazra Medica 
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Thank you so much for that note, Joel.  Admittedly, my main goal right now is  
attempting to ensure that we're left with something to preserve until I get the 
"go ahead" to have the items removed and the suitable expert brought in to 
safeguard this very valuable collection.


Hazra C. Medica
Advisor/Consultant on Cultural Matters
Ministry of Trade, Industry, Commerce & Consumer Affairs
Ministry of Sports, Culture & National Festivals
St. John's,  Antigua W.I.





From: Voron, Joel <jvo...@cwf.org<mailto:jvo...@cwf.org>>
Sent: Monday, 06 November 2017 10:20:56
To: Hazra Medica
Cc: pestlist@museumpests.net<mailto:pestlist@museumpests.net>
Subject: Re: [pestlist] Suggestions re solutions for termite infestation in the 
tropics

Key note . wooden items would need to have a moisture content less than 19% 
in order for bag/isolation to be faster and a total guaranteed success 
depending of the extent and species of the termites. In case other are thinking 
this may work for all situations. JTV






Joel Voron   Colonial Williamsburg Foundation

  Conservation Dept.

 Integrated Pest Management

  Office 757-220-7080

Cell 757-634-1175

  E-Mail jvo...@cwf.org<mailto:jvo...@cwf.org>





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Hello,


Kindly permit me to intervene into this space to ask for safe, efficient, and 
cost-effective so

Re: [pestlist] Another termite question

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Ozge -

Without even finishing my reading of your email, I knew this had to be Los 
Angeles. I’ve dealt with other situations where Drywood termites are in the 
major beams of a large commercial warehouse buildings in the LA area. Seems a 
lot of the warehouses have a similar condition. You are welcomed to call me at 
610-
348-9890, my cell phone, to discuss the situation.

Tom Parker 
610-348-9890 Cellar 

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> On Nov 7, 2017, at 2:20 PM, Ozge Gencay-Ustun  
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> Dear All,
> 
> I have an inquiry about termites, too. We have drywood termites infested in 
> the wooden beams (vertical beams and roof elements) of our new building, 
> where we have moved our library and where our conservation lab and 
> collections areas are (so from time to time we will have objects in those 
> areas). Our other museum collections (mainly ethnographic) are in other part 
> of the building where there is no wooden structure there, so I might say they 
> are fairly safe, right now.
> 
> In addition, one of our conservators suspects that we may also have 
> subterranean termites. We had a company came in and did a treatment (I am not 
> sure what). It is an old building, we had renovations done and just moved in. 
> We have a small Native garden next to the building, but I didn’t see any 
> subterranean termite tunnels there. I  only saw the drywood termites 
> (red-bodied swarmers with wings of branchy veins). I found all of them dead 
> on the floor of the library’s cool storage room and one of them was alive 
> caught in an insect trap.
> 
> To eliminate the drywood termites what would is recommended? Would using a 
> bait matrix containing an insect growth regulator, hexaflumuron work on 
> drywood termites like it did for subterranean termites with the Statue of 
> Liberty (1998 JAIC (37:3) article by Nan-Yao Su, Jamey D. Thomas, and Rudolf 
> H. Scheffrahn)? Do you think it would work better than injecting those wooden 
> beams? Any thoughts would help.
> 
> Thanks,
> Özge Gençay-Üstün
> Assistant Conservator
>  
> AUTRY MUSEUM OF THE AMERICAN WEST
> 4700 Western Heritage Way
> Los Angeles, CA 90027-1462
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Re: [pestlist] Suggestions re solutions for termite infestation in the tropics

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Key note . wooden items would need to have a moisture content less than 19% 
in order for bag/isolation to be faster and a total guaranteed success 
depending of the extent and species of the termites. In case other are thinking 
this may work for all situations. JTV






Joel Voron   Colonial Williamsburg Foundation

  Conservation Dept.

 Integrated Pest Management

  Office 757-220-7080

Cell 757-634-1175

  E-Mail jvo...@cwf.org





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On Nov 6, 2017, at 9:06 AM, Hazra Medica 
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Hello,


Kindly permit me to intervene into this space to ask for safe, efficient, and 
cost-effective solutions for remedying severe termite infestations of artefacts 
and documentary heritage that are slated to become part of a special museum 
collection.  We have inherited a collection of artefacts and documents, many of 
which show clear signs of termite infestation or damage from said infestation 
and which are currently still being housed in a building suffering severe 
disrepair.  In an effort to curtail the spread of the infestation whilst the 
pieces are still in their unsuitable environment, I have taken to bagging 
(wrapping the wooden sculptures in plastic bags and sealing them with tape. I 
have also isolated documents in bags.  Removal from the premises is understood 
as a necessary step to ensure the rehabilitation of these items.  Also, 
freezing has been suggested as well as anoxia. Any advice you give will be 
greatly appreciated as this is very new territory for us.


Best regards


Hazra C. Medica
Advisor/Consultant on Cultural Matters
Ministry of Trade, Industry, Commerce & Consumer Affairs
Ministry of Sports, Culture & National Festivals
St. John's, Antigua W.I.





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Re: [pestlist] Suggestions re solutions for termite infestation in the tropics

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Hi Hazra
Bagging infested/suspect materials and freezing will be a great approach
for treatment of the items.
Storing the (treated) materials up off the floor post freezing (i.e. on
blocks or tables) will enable you to keep an eye out for further termite
attack.
If you're dealing with drywood termites then even small wooden items can
contain colonies, but again freezing would be a suitable approach (assuming
items won't be damaged by freezing).
You could go down the low oxygen path for treatment, but it's much more
expensive. One large bag could be used to treat the entire collection, or
you could make several smaller bags. The small bag approach provides you
with a stable storage environment for the collection while you work through
cataloging, etc. Another major advantage is that you won't be facing a
mould problem when it comes time to open the bags (a real risk when leaving
items bagged in pe in poor conditions).
As for treatment of the termite infestation (if you're looking at staying
in the same building) it will depend upon the species of termite that is
attacking, building type and other factors. Assuming that they're
subterranean termites then baiting may be suitable as it will allow you to
destroy the colony, but you may also be able to locate and destroy the nest
directly.
Best wishes
Alex

On Tue, 7 Nov 2017 at 2:11 am, Hazra Medica <hazra.med...@ab.gov.ag> wrote:

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>
> Thank you so much for that note, Joel.  Admittedly, my main goal right now
> is  attempting to ensure that we're left with something to preserve until I
> get the "go ahead" to have the items removed and the suitable expert
> brought in to safeguard this very valuable collection.
>
>
> *Hazra C. Medica*
>
>
>
> *Advisor/Consultant on Cultural Matters Ministry of Trade, Industry,
> Commerce & Consumer Affairs Ministry of Sports, Culture & National
> Festivals St. John's,  Antigua W.I.*
>
>
>
> --
> *From:* Voron, Joel <jvo...@cwf.org>
> *Sent:* Monday, 06 November 2017 10:20:56
> *To:* Hazra Medica
> *Cc:* pestlist@museumpests.net
> *Subject:* Re: [pestlist] Suggestions re solutions for termite
> infestation in the tropics
>
> Key note . wooden items would need to have a moisture content less
> than 19% in order for bag/isolation to be faster and a total guaranteed
> success depending of the extent and species of the termites. In case other
> are thinking this may work for all situations. JTV
>
>
>
>
>
> Joel Voron   Colonial Williamsburg Foundation
>
>   Conservation Dept.
>
>  Integrated Pest Management
>
>   Office 757-220-7080
>
> Cell 757-634-1175
>
>   E-Mail jvo...@cwf.org
>
>
>
>
>
>
> On Nov 6, 2017, at 9:06 AM, Hazra Medica <hazra.med...@ab.gov.ag> wrote:
>
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>
> Hello,
>
>
> Kindly permit me to intervene into this space to ask for safe, efficient,
> and cost-effective solutions for remedying severe termite infestations of
> artefacts and documentary heritage that are slated to become part of a
> special museum collection.  We have inherited a collection of artefacts and
> documents, many of which show clear signs of termite infestation or damage
> from said infestation and which are currently still being housed in a
> building suffering severe disrepair.  In an effort to curtail the spread of
> the infestation whilst the pieces are still in their unsuitable
> environment, I have taken to bagging (wrapping the wooden sculptures in
> plastic bags and sealing them with tape. I have also isolated documents in
> bags.  Removal from the premises is understood as a necessary step to
> ensure the rehabilitation of these items.  Also, freezing has been
> suggested as well as anoxia. Any advice you give will be greatly
> appreciated as this is very new territory for us.
>
>
> Best regards
>
>
> Hazra C. Medica
> Advisor/Consultant on Cultural Matters
> Ministry of Trade, Industry, Commerce & Consumer Affairs
> Mi

Re: [pestlist] Suggestions re solutions for termite infestation in the tropics

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Hazra -
 
The first step is to determine if the damage has been caused by drywood or 
subterranean termites.  If it is caused by subterranean termites, then just 
bagging the items will fairly quickly kill whatever worker termites remain in 
the object.  If it's drywood termites then bagging and freezing would be the 
easiest remedy.
 
Tom Parker
www.termitesonly.com
610-348-9890 Cell
 
 
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To: Voron, Joel <jvo...@cwf.org>
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Sent: Mon, Nov 6, 2017 10:12 am
Subject: Re: [pestlist]  Suggestions re solutions for termite infestation in 
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Thank you so much for that note, Joel.  Admittedly, my main goal right now is  
attempting to ensure that we're left with something to preserve until I get the 
"go ahead" to have the items removed and the suitable expert brought in to 
safeguard this very valuable collection.




Hazra C. Medica

Advisor/Consultant on Cultural Matters
Ministry of Trade, Industry, Commerce & Consumer Affairs
Ministry of Sports, Culture & National Festivals
St. John's,  Antigua W.I.










From: Voron, Joel <jvo...@cwf.org>
Sent: Monday, 06 November 2017 10:20:56
To: Hazra Medica
Cc: pestlist@museumpests.net
Subject: Re: [pestlist] Suggestions re solutions for termite infestation in the 
tropics
 

Key note . wooden items would need to have a moisture content less than 19% 
in order for bag/isolation to be faster and a total guaranteed success 
depending of the extent and species of the termites. In case other are thinking 
this may work for all situations. JTV 


 
 
Joel Voron   Colonial Williamsburg Foundation
  Conservation Dept.
 Integrated Pest Management  
  Office 757-220-7080
Cell 757-634-1175
  E-Mail jvo...@cwf.org
 
 



On Nov 6, 2017, at 9:06 AM, Hazra Medica <hazra.med...@ab.gov.ag> wrote:



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Hello,


Kindly permit me to intervene into this space to ask for safe, efficient, and 
cost-effective solutions for remedying severe termite infestations of artefacts 
and documentary heritage that are slated to become part of a special museum 
collection.  We have inherited a collection of artefacts and documents, many of 
which show clear signs of termite infestation or damage from said infestation 
and which are currently still being housed in a building suffering severe 
disrepair.  In an effort to curtail the spread of the infestation whilst the 
pieces are still in their unsuitable environment, I have taken to bagging 
(wrapping the wooden sculptures in plastic bags and sealing them with tape. I 
have also isolated documents in bags.  Removal from the premises is understood 
as a necessary step to ensure the rehabilitation of these items.  Also, 
freezing has been suggested as well as anoxia. Any advice you give will be 
greatly appreciated as this is very new territory for us.


Best regards


Hazra C. Medica
Advisor/Consultant on Cultural Matters
Ministry of Trade, Industry, Commerce & Consumer Affairs
Ministry of Sports, Culture & National Festivals
St. John's, Antigua W.I.





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Thank you so much for that note, Joel.  Admittedly, my main goal right now is  
attempting to ensure that we're left with something to preserve until I get the 
"go ahead" to have the items removed and the suitable expert brought in to 
safeguard this very valuable collection.


Hazra C. Medica
Advisor/Consultant on Cultural Matters
Ministry of Trade, Industry, Commerce & Consumer Affairs
Ministry of Sports, Culture & National Festivals
St. John's,  Antigua W.I.





From: Voron, Joel <jvo...@cwf.org>
Sent: Monday, 06 November 2017 10:20:56
To: Hazra Medica
Cc: pestlist@museumpests.net
Subject: Re: [pestlist] Suggestions re solutions for termite infestation in the 
tropics

Key note . wooden items would need to have a moisture content less than 19% 
in order for bag/isolation to be faster and a total guaranteed success 
depending of the extent and species of the termites. In case other are thinking 
this may work for all situations. JTV






Joel Voron   Colonial Williamsburg Foundation

  Conservation Dept.

 Integrated Pest Management

  Office 757-220-7080

Cell 757-634-1175

  E-Mail jvo...@cwf.org<mailto:jvo...@cwf.org>





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Hello,


Kindly permit me to intervene into this space to ask for safe, efficient, and 
cost-effective solutions for remedying severe termite infestations of artefacts 
and documentary heritage that are slated to become part of a special museum 
collection.  We have inherited a collection of artefacts and documents, many of 
which show clear signs of termite infestation or damage from said infestation 
and which are currently still being housed in a building suffering severe 
disrepair.  In an effort to curtail the spread of the infestation whilst the 
pieces are still in their unsuitable environment, I have taken to bagging 
(wrapping the wooden sculptures in plastic bags and sealing them with tape. I 
have also isolated documents in bags.  Removal from the premises is understood 
as a necessary step to ensure the rehabilitation of these items.  Also, 
freezing has been suggested as well as anoxia. Any advice you give will be 
greatly appreciated as this is very new territory for us.


Best regards


Hazra C. Medica
Advisor/Consultant on Cultural Matters
Ministry of Trade, Industry, Commerce & Consumer Affairs
Ministry of Sports, Culture & National Festivals
St. John's, Antigua W.I.





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Re: [pestlist] Additional photo for Pest ID

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The only species I know about is *Trixagus dermestoides*. Its larvae live
in soil, feeding on fungal mycorrhizae associated with the roots of trees.
The adults are attracted to light, which is probably why this one ended up
indoors.
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> The Trixagus species are wood-borers, correct?
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Re: [pestlist] ID Help please

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Hi Megan
It looks rather like a *Trixagus *species (Throscidae) - if there's just
the one, I'd put it down to an accidental intruder.
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> Could someone help me identify this pest? I cannot tell if it is a Minute
> Brown Scavenger Beetle, or if it's something more threatening to our
> collections.
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Re: [pestlist] ID Help please

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Megan,

  the thorax region does not look like a minute browncan you get any 
other angles to send? JTV


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Hello everyone,

Could someone help me identify this pest? I cannot tell if it is a Minute Brown 
Scavenger Beetle, or if it's something more threatening to our collections.

Thank you,

Megan Jablonski
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Naval History & Heritage Command
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Bremerton, WA 98337
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RE: [pestlist] Fuzzy unknown beetles

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Okay thanks, so much
I am still learning.

Adrienne

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It’s a weevil. Not a collection pest.
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Hi, All

Thanks for your help last week in helping me ID the Carpet beetle. Since than 
we have also found the Larder Beetle.  We thank they came in on recently 
donated collection.  We have put the collection in the freezer and are taking 
action on other artifacts that may be at risk.   Today I found this beetle near 
where we found the Larder beetle.  To me it looks like the Deathwatch Beetle. 
The beetle is fuzzy and has grayish and brown spots.I am hoping that I am 
wrong, we already found 2 danger species.
Thanks for any help

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It’s a weevil. Not a collection pest. 

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> Thanks for your help last week in helping me ID the Carpet beetle. Since than 
> we have also found the Larder Beetle.  We thank they came in on recently 
> donated collection.  We have put the collection in the freezer and are taking 
> action on other artifacts that may be at risk.   Today I found this beetle 
> near where we found the Larder beetle.  To me it looks like the Deathwatch 
> Beetle. The beetle is fuzzy and has grayish and brown spots.I am hoping 
> that I am wrong, we already found 2 danger species.   
> Thanks for any help
>  
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Re: [pestlist] Persistent pest issue

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Just with regards to possible sources of infestation, are there any rodent
baits in ceiling voids or to offices, etc.?
We have also had a huge issue with Stegobium and Lasioderma in starch-based
packing noodles. The noodles have been used to replace inorganic styrofoam
packaging, but it is very attractive to beetles. Several infestations of
collections have been traced back to this style of packing material.
Best wishes
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> Thank you for your suggestion. After we perform our second aerosol
> treatment, we will implement pheromone traps. The collection is near a
> couple faculty offices, molecular and zoology lab spaces, and hallways with
> a couple vending machines and trashcans. Insects don't seem to be an
> obvious problem out there, but food and drink are potentially nearby.
>
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> I am the Collections Manager at the Angelo State Natural History
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> species entering the collections (seasonal crickets, ground beetles), but
> only a few that are imminent dangers to our collections--what we believe to
> be drugstore beetles (*Stegobium paniceum*) in the skins collection, and
> clothes moths (*Tineola bisselliella*) in low density in a skull
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> greater at this time. Our col

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Thank you for your suggestion. After we perform our second aerosol treatment, 
we will implement pheromone traps. The collection is near a couple faculty 
offices, molecular and zoology lab spaces, and hallways with a couple vending 
machines and trashcans. Insects don't seem to be an obvious problem out there, 
but food and drink are potentially nearby.




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Angelo State University
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Thank you for you submission. Are there any offices or break rooms in or near 
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Hi everyone,



I am the Collections Manager at the Angelo State Natural History Collections. 
We have a persistent pest problem with a number of insect species entering the 
collections (seasonal crickets, ground beetles), but only a few that are 
imminent dangers to our collections--what we believe to be drugstore beetles 
(Stegobium paniceum) in the skins collection, and clothes moths (Tineola 
bisselliella) in low density in a skull collection where wool was formerly 
stored. Please see the attached photos for what species we are dealing with. We 
have historically used freezing and isolation to manage pest outbreaks, but the 
degree of pest exposure is greater at this time. Our collection cases are 
elevated, the door seals are generally in good shape, and we use and monitor 
sticky traps



Specimens--and, at times, cases--with beetles are frozen at -20C for 2wks when 
positive for pests or pest frass, but the number of cases with pests exceed our 
freezer capacity. Live drugstore beetles have been found in one collection room 
on the floor as well as on the tops of cases. We have fogged the room with 
CB-80 (0.05% pyrethrin, nonresidual) with case doors closed. We plan to fog 
again two weeks after this initial fogging to catch any larva that may have 
hatched since the first treatment.



The collections room has some degree of shelving, books, etc. that may harbor 
pests. Fogging the room we hope rids them from those habitats. The collections 
are housed within an older biology building. We don't have the resources to do 
major facilities work, but if there a

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Pheromone traps would be a great way to pinpoint the location of origin of the 
beetles. If the current treatment plan fails I would suggest going that route. 
I am still curious about office spaces and or break rooms? JTV






Joel Voron   Colonial Williamsburg Foundation

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  Office 757-220-7080

Cell 757-634-1175

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the space that has had issues?  JTV


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Hi everyone,



I am the Collections Manager at the Angelo State Natural History Collections. 
We have a persistent pest problem with a number of insect species entering the 
collections (seasonal crickets, ground beetles), but only a few that are 
imminent dangers to our collections--what we believe to be drugstore beetles 
(Stegobium paniceum) in the skins collection, and clothes moths (Tineola 
bisselliella) in low density in a skull collection where wool was formerly 
stored. Please see the attached photos for what species we are dealing with. We 
have historically used freezing and isolation to manage pest outbreaks, but the 
degree of pest exposure is greater at this time. Our collection cases are 
elevated, the door seals are generally in good shape, and we use and monitor 
sticky traps



Specimens--and, at times, cases--with beetles are frozen at -20C for 2wks when 
positive for pests or pest frass, but the number of cases with pests exceed our 
freezer capacity. Live drugstore beetles have been found in one collection room 
on the floor as well as on the tops of cases. We have fogged the room with 
CB-80 (0.05% pyrethrin, nonresidual) with case doors closed. We plan to fog 
again two weeks after this initial fogging to catch any larva that may have 
hatched since the first treatment.



The collections room has some degree of shelving, books, etc. that may harbor 
pests. Fogging the room we hope rids them from those habitats. The collections 
are housed within an older biology building. We don't have the resources to do 
major facilities work, but if there are suggestions for better sequestering our 
collections through some facilities upgrades I'd be glad to hear it. There are 
drugstore beetles in rooms within the biology building outside of the 
collections and I fear they simply re-enter after we fumigate. Tight door 
sweeps have been installed and windows (where they exist) have been re-sealed. 
I am working on potentially getting additional filters or fine screens 
installed for our HVAC ducts.



My questions for you all:

  1.  Are we correct in our pest identifications? Striations appear on the 
elytra of the beetles, and they do possess the characteristic antenna of 
drugstore beetles (though this doesn't show up in my photos).
  2.  For drugstore beetle infestations in particular, does anyone have 
specific recommendations?
  3.  Is anyone using fogging? Did you leave the doors to your cases open 
during fogging? Has anyone used CB-80 as a museum-approved aerosol?



I would be happy to provide additional useful details. Thank you in advance.



Dianna



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Angelo State University
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San Angelo, TX 76909-0890
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 Vacuuming the undersides of wool carpets that cannot be frozen. Particularly 
paying close attention 6 inches in from the edges of area carpets or rugs.  I 
inspect under edges of rugs in August here seems to be the time to catch them 
before any real damage can occur. JTV






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Hi all,

This was found upstairs in a draw. The area is the front desk where the phone 
and entryway is located. Where the public visit the exhibits.  The area has 
carpet. Also people that have been working the front desk have been leaving 
processed foods.  I did not see any adults, only the larvae.   I am unsure if 
it is Furniture Carpet Beetle (Anthremus flavipes) (LeConte) or Buffalo carpet 
Beetle (Anthrermus scrophulaia.)  I am thinking it is the Furniture Carpet 
Beetle ((Anthremus flavipes) (LeConte).   We do have textiles, and wool in the 
collections.Am I correct on the ID.  What are some recommendations on how 
to keep them contained  to the one area.  I know you can place items in 
freezers. The draws do not come out of the desk and I not thank they will pull 
the carpet up any time soon.   We currently have a few textiles artifacts on 
display.  Should I recommend that the textiles be placed in the freezer and 
what other recommendation should I make?

Thanks for any help with this.

Adrienne Dastgir
Curator of Collections
Chickasaw Culture Center
867 Cooper Memorial Dr.
Sulphur Ok 73086
(580)-622-7130




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RE: [pestlist] Help with unknown beetle

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It looks like a staphylind beetle, offhand. Not a pest species. Almost all are 
predatory.

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Hi, all

I am having trouble identifying this beetle.  I am not sure if the wings are 
broken or if they stop and expose the end of the abdomen.  It is a small 
beetle.  I want to make sure it is not a threat to any collections.   We house 
wood, textiles, photos, books, papers,  pottery, stone, and various metal 
objects.  I work mainly with the Archelogy collections which will be moving to 
a new building sometimes this year.   All the collections are housed in a 
basement, since April we have had a humidity problem, the last two weeks it has 
in proved.  When we move the paper, photos, and books will be staying in the 
current building only 3D objects and Archelogy collections will be moving.





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Re: [pestlist] re: Wasp identification

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Thank you everybody for your suggestions, the Pteromalidae definitely looks 
like the right fit!
No, I don't need to narrow it down to a species, instead I'll check with the 
inhabitants of the house on their lighting habits and ask them to keep an eye 
open with regard to possible hosts for the wasps.

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Simon Schölch
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Re: [pestlist] ULT freezer

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In order to disinfest materials from all stages of insects, a freezer which can 
maintain and hold at least -20°F is mandatory.  A chest freezer doesn’t lose 
much cold when you open the door to load it vs. an upright one. The object is 
to lower the materials to minus 32°F within four hours after putting the 
materials in the freezer.  This scenario beats the insects from being able to 
build up their natural antifreeze.

Tom Parker

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Dear Colleagues,

I need to purchase an Ultra-low Temperature chest freezer.

So far I've gotten quotes for :
So-Low Chest style freezer Model CH40-22
Thermo Fisher Scientific Revco Model ULT2050-10-A -40C Chest Freezer
Scien Temp34-22A Standard Low Temperature Chest Freezer

Any recommendations, thoughts, comments, likes or dislikes for an ULT chest 
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Re: [pestlist] Powderpost vs Furniture Beetle

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Dawn,

Thanks- great info!

-Todd

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> It looks like Anobium sp. to me. The Lyctus I've seen tend to have a
> thorax that is more narrow than their abdomen, whereas Anobium seems like
> their thorax and abdomen are pretty equal in width. Anobium also seems to
> have it head positioned lower, as if the thorax gives it a little neck
> shield. I found a site with a good explanation of identifying the
> differences between Lyctus sp. and Anobium sp. that you may find useful:
> http://ipm.ucanr.edu/PMG/PESTNOTES/pn7418.html  Bugguide.net also has
> good pictures.
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> For an artifact, I would approach a similar treatment for either -- anoxic
> chamber would be my first choice if you have that available; if not, then
> freeze treatment over heating treatment, which I would be concerned that
> you'd run the risk of over drying the wood and cause cracking. Then clean
> it really well with a HEPA vacuum and brushes.
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> found dead).  I am wondering, can anyone confirm if this is a Powderpost
> beetle vs a Furniture beetle?
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RE: [pestlist] Powderpost vs Furniture Beetle

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It looks like Anobium sp. to me. The Lyctus I've seen tend to have a thorax 
that is more narrow than their abdomen, whereas Anobium seems like their thorax 
and abdomen are pretty equal in width. Anobium also seems to have it head 
positioned lower, as if the thorax gives it a little neck shield. I found a 
site with a good explanation of identifying the differences between Lyctus sp. 
and Anobium sp. that you may find useful: 
http://ipm.ucanr.edu/PMG/PESTNOTES/pn7418.html  Bugguide.net also has good 
pictures.

For an artifact, I would approach a similar treatment for either -- anoxic 
chamber would be my first choice if you have that available; if not, then 
freeze treatment over heating treatment, which I would be concerned that you'd 
run the risk of over drying the wood and cause cracking. Then clean it really 
well with a HEPA vacuum and brushes.

Dawn


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Hello Everyone,

A mask recently came in with evidence of wood boring pests.  We will be
freezing the mask.  The beetle pictured was found in the wrapping (it was
found dead).  I am wondering, can anyone confirm if this is a Powderpost
beetle vs a Furniture beetle?

In the end, does distinguishing between the 2 really matter? (treatment
methods, severity of damage, one being considered "worse" than the other...)

Thanks!
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Re: [pestlist] Wasp identification

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I am not an entomologist but my money is on cuckoo wasp. Group of solitary 
parasitic wasps - no danger to your collection from theses guys. Although 
perhaps from their host species.
https://www.instagram.com/p/BFcWqcQqyJA/

Best wishes
Christian


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National Museum Cardiff




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Hallo group,

This is a bit outside the pest scope I usually have to deal with, but I hope 
the entomologists can help:
These small (3-4 mm length), rather pretty wasps emerge year after year in a 
timber framed, inhabited house in southern Denmark in late summer / early 
autumn and search to the windows.
Where they come from has not yet been observed, neither have any signs of 
damage that they might cause where they live/hatch.

Thank you for any assistance!

Best regards,
Simon Sch?lch
Konserveringstekniker / Dipl.-Rest.

Bevaringscenter Fyn
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Re: [pestlist] Moths

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Todd -
 
I do not understand the reply.  There are NO larvae in the photos???
 
Tom Parker
 
 
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Elizabeth,


I think you can cross webbing/case making moths off the list for that first 
one.  On your moth, the head looks different, the body looks a little "thicker" 
and webbing moth larvae are white.


Not sure on that second one...


-Todd



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Hello all, 


I would be grateful if you could help me identify these moths. Both are the 
first of either type we have found. The moth in image 1 also appears to have 
larvae associated with it on the trap. The trap has only been in place since 
September 19.




Image 1: non-pheromone sticky trap, 6.5 mm long (case-bearing clothes moth?)
Image 2: on a window sill, 6 mm long



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Re: [pestlist] Powderpost vs Furniture Beetle

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Definitely the Furniture Beetle.
 
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Hello Everyone,


A mask recently came in with evidence of wood boring pests.  We will be 
freezing the mask.  The beetle pictured was found in the wrapping (it was found 
dead).  I am wondering, can anyone confirm if this is a Powderpost beetle vs a 
Furniture beetle?


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methods, severity of damage, one being considered "worse" than the other...)


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Re: [pestlist] Moths

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Elizabeth,

I think you can cross webbing/case making moths off the list for that first
one.  On your moth, the head looks different, the body looks a little
"thicker" and webbing moth larvae are white.

Not sure on that second one...

-Todd

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> the first of either type we have found. The moth in image 1 also appears to
> have larvae associated with it on the trap. The trap has only been in place
> since September 19.
>
> Image 1: non-pheromone sticky trap, 6.5 mm long (case-bearing clothes
> moth?)
> Image 2: on a window sill, 6 mm long
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Re: [pestlist] Moth id. please

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Javier -
 
In addition to Tony's comments, in the U.S. we commonly call these types of 
moths underwing moths because the second pair of wings is usually colorful and 
the top or first pair exhibit a camouflaged appearance.  Another common name 
for this group is sphinx moths.  As Tony stated, they are highly attracted to 
exterior lights at night.
 
Tom Parker
 
 
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Dear colleagues, hello from Madrid.
Could anyone help us to identify this moth we found flying in the reading room? 
The bug is relatively big -37 mm long- .What does its larvae eats?




Thank you!









Javier Tacón Clavaín
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Re: [pestlist] Moth id. please

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This is the Silver-striped Hawkmoth, Hippotion celerio - its caterpillar
feeds on plants such as bedstraw (Gallium) and willowherb (Epilobium). This
individual was presumably attracted to light.
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> Could anyone help us to identify this moth we found flying in the reading
> room? The bug is relatively big -37 mm long- .What does its larvae eats?
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Re: [pestlist] Beetle ID

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That appears consistent with an adult ground beetle (Carabidae). It likely 
wandered in beneath a door or though a hole, or perhaps was a stowaway on some 
item brought into the facility. In any case, the creature poses virtually no 
risk, except to other insects.

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> This lone beetle was found alive in the secure storage area of my museum 
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> collection?
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Re: [pestlist] moth id

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I don't think the moth larva were on the carcasses when they went into the
colony, I have never had moths in the prep lab.  Our dermestids are housed
in an out-building adjacent to an area where live mammals and birds are
housed in outdoor caging.  Food for the animals is also prepared in the
building, a student who works there said there were moths in the animal
food as well (I don't know if the food is animal, fresh vegetable or
grain).

The colony itself is in a well sealed container, but is opened regularly
for misting and feeding, it would be easy for moths to fly in if they were
attracted to the contents.



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> Interesting.  If I had to guess, I would say those were either webbing
> moths or case making moths.  I am trying to learn more about how these
> moths survive and spread, so I will be following this thread...
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> Could it be a case where the bones had the moth eggs on them before they
> were placed in the current environment?
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> Is the bone cleaning environment sealed pretty well to keep moths/larvae
> from getting in from the outside?
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Re: [pestlist] moth id

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Tamar,

Interesting.  If I had to guess, I would say those were either webbing
moths or case making moths.  I am trying to learn more about how these
moths survive and spread, so I will be following this thread...

Could it be a case where the bones had the moth eggs on them before they
were placed in the current environment?

Is the bone cleaning environment sealed pretty well to keep moths/larvae
from getting in from the outside?

Thanks for posting,
-Todd

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> cleaning in the colony, no fur, feathers or skin.
>
> thanks!
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Re: [pestlist] heat and silverfish

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See the references below.

The usual temp for thermal treatment is 130F/55 C. for a few hours.


https://www.cci-icc.gc.ca/resources-ressources/publications/downloads/technicalbulletins/eng/TB29-CombattingPestsofCulturalProperty.pdf

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RE: [pestlist] heat and silverfish

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It’s my understanding that they must live in a climate that has a high 
humidity; read somewhere at least 75% RH.  So, I’d gather they would not last 
very long in 108F and low humidity.  Firebrats are known to tolerate slightly 
higher temperatures (hence their name) but still need humidity to survive.

I’ve been trying to get a decent specimen, however once they die they dry out 
fair quickly in normal indoor, comfortable temperatures and humidity, let’s say 
70F and 50%RH.

Best,
Matt

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Museum – 302.888.4752
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Thanks,

Alan


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Re: [pestlist] Webbing found on wool textile

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Sounds like the consensus is spider webbing, not moth webbing that we found
today.

Kate Kearns
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Historic Deerfield, Inc.
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Deerfield, MA 01342
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> It is definitely NOT webbing clothes moth silk.  Remember, it's the larvae
> of WCM's that spin the silken threads from their salivary glands.  With
> this being true, you'd see all sorts of damage and pelletized frass
> associated with the webbing.  There is no damage or frass on this piece of
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Re: [pestlist] Webbing found on wool textile

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It is definitely NOT webbing clothes moth silk.  Remember, it's the larvae of 
WCM's that spin the silken threads from their salivary glands.  With this being 
true, you'd see all sorts of damage and pelletized frass associated with the 
webbing.  There is no damage or frass on this piece of fabric.
 
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I'm attaching a photo of some webbing we found on a wool textile in one of our 
historic houses. We've had an ongoing problem with clothes moths and I'm 
wondering if this is moth activity, or do we have something else too. 


Thanks, 

Kate








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RE: [pestlist] Webbing found on wool textile

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It could be moth activity, but look more like spider webbing.

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I'm attaching a photo of some webbing we found on a wool textile in one of our 
historic houses. We've had an ongoing problem with clothes moths and I'm 
wondering if this is moth activity, or do we have something else too.
Thanks,
Kate

Kate Kearns
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RE: [pestlist] Bed bugs treated with diatomaceous earth

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I think the DE powder was probably sprinkled around, possibly an over 
application, and then the boxes sealed.  Do you see powder? It’s slow acting, 
but bed bug and egg dormancy period has passed well before the 10 year mark! 
Any bugs or eggs will have died. DE contains a small amount of crystalline 
silica compared to CimeXa dust where there is none – it’s all amorphous.

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A curator is considering bringing in an archival collection consisting of paper 
and media materials that was treated for a bed bug infestation with 
diatomaceous earth 10+ years ago.  We don't have much information on how the 
treatment was implemented.  The problems with diatomaceous earth residue on 
collections materials aside, is it an effective means of treatment?  
Information on how long bed bugs and their eggs can remain dormant and how to 
best assess the efficacy of the remediation would also be greatly appreciated.
Many thanks,
Jessica

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RE: [pestlist] Bed bugs treated with diatomaceous earth

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Hello Jessica,

I can’t answer most of your questions but diatomaceous earth is 
used for passive treatment of bed bugs and other insects. They physically have 
to crawl across the sediment for it to have effect, it scratches their 
undersides and ends up killing them. Exterminators will place it around trim, 
in corners, electrical outlets, anywhere that they may be hiding. Generally in 
treatment an insecticide or other poisonous substance is used as a more active 
treatment so you may want to research the types that were used at the time of 
treatment in your area for health and safety concern for staff. There is food 
grade diatomaceous earth so it isn’t in and of itself necessarily harmful to 
you beyond irritation to eyes or lungs even if this particular usage it isn’t 
food grade. The issue would be more if it’s ground into the collections or 
related concerns.

Typical ‘waiting them out’ treatment can be up to two years. If 
they’re been sealed or isolated for the 10+ years since treatment it’s likely 
that there isn’t a concern but I would be personally very concerned as you 
sound like you might be. No good story ever started with, “So I found this bed 
bug……”.

William Shepherd
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Swift Current Museum
44 Robert Street West
Swift Current, Saskatchewan
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Phone: 306-778-4815
Fax: 306-778-4818

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A curator is considering bringing in an archival collection consisting of paper 
and media materials that was treated for a bed bug infestation with 
diatomaceous earth 10+ years ago.  We don't have much information on how the 
treatment was implemented.  The problems with diatomaceous earth residue on 
collections materials aside, is it an effective means of treatment?  
Information on how long bed bugs and their eggs can remain dormant and how to 
best assess the efficacy of the remediation would also be greatly appreciated.
Many thanks,
Jessica

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I've encountered this problem in an historic mansion in the Hudson Valley.  
Lots of adults indoors in pheromone traps, but no larvae or damage to the 
wall-to-wall woolen carpets.  Traced to pigeons droppings and nesting material 
on the roof of the adjacent veranda.
 
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Hi Megan 
This is a Monopis species - almost certainly M. crocicapitella, the Pale-backed 
Clothes Moth (though it is known in the US as the "Bird Nest Moth"). It is 
becoming a frequent pest in domestic and public buildings in Europe, or at 
least it is coming to our notice more frequently, especially as it is attracted 
to Tineola pheromone traps. Although the adults can be abundant, finding larvae 
is proving much more difficult.
Best wishes
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Hello everyone,

Could one of you help me identify this moth? I don't think I've seen it in our 
traps before.

Thanks!

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Hi Megan
This is a *Monopis *species - almost certainly *M*. *crocicapitella*, the
Pale-backed Clothes Moth (though it is known in the US as the "Bird Nest
Moth"). It is becoming a frequent pest in domestic and public buildings in
Europe, or at least it is coming to our notice more frequently, especially
as it is attracted to *Tineola *pheromone traps. Although the adults can be
abundant, finding larvae is proving much more difficult.
Best wishes
Tony

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England

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Hello Megan,

Certainly has a resemblance to a type of clothes moth. If it is, they 
tend to like a number of different textile type items but have a tendency 
towards animal hair/fur, clothing, carpets/rugs, and that type of material. 
Check your surrounding environment for similar materials and see if you have 
any larvae or more full grown moths. Depending on what you find depends on what 
you do. Anywhere from dry cleaning to large scale freezing. Keep the humidity 
under control, regular inspection, good house keeping policies, sealing of 
items (if appropriate), and closing up entry points will deter further issues. 
Sticky and pheromone traps are handy for keeping an eye on the situation.

It might be something else or could have come in on someone, lets hope!

William Shepherd
Collections Officer
Swift Current Museum
44 Robert Street West
Swift Current, Saskatchewan
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Hello everyone,

Could one of you help me identify this moth? I don't think I've seen it in our 
traps before.

Thanks!

Megan Jablonski
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Puget Sound Navy Museum
Naval History & Heritage Command
251 1st Street
Bremerton, WA 98337
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RE: [pestlist] powderpost beetle?

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I used to find these in a biology lab and storage for study skins – turns out 
the preparator used cornstarch to absorb moisture.  I had him change to borax, 
and improve clean up procedures.  That helped to reduce the problem.


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Thanks, Richard!  That's a relief.  It was found in a kitchen area, so it also 
makes a lot more sense.

Alan

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Not a powder post beetle. Instead, it is consistent with the merchant grain 
beetle, Oryzaephilus mercator.


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Hello all,

I seem to be having some luck this week.  Is this a powderpost beetle?

[Inline image 1]

Thanks,

Alan
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Agreed.  Nice photo.
Gretchen

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I agree with Richard. The head and the eyes say merchant beetle. Sawtooth and 
merchant are really similar. JTV



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Not a powder post beetle. Instead, it is consistent with the merchant grain 
beetle, Oryzaephilus mercator.


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I seem to be having some luck this week.  Is this a powderpost beetle?

[Inline image 1]

Thanks,

Alan
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Merchant grain beetles as opposed to saw-toothed grain beetles are supposed to 
be more attracted to items with a higher oil content such as nuts, copra and 
less to grains.  Adults also will fly as compared to STGB.  Quick listing about 
these species  (Food for Thought, so to speak):
Both saw-toothed and merchant grain beetles are common stored-food product 
pests that infest cereals, cornmeal, cornstarch, popcorn, rice, dried fruits, 
breakfast foods, flour, rolled oats, bran, macaroni, sugar, drugs, spices, 
herbs, candy, dried meats, chocolate, bread, nuts, crackers, raisins, dried dog 
and cat food, and other foodstuffs. These beetles are capable of chewing into 
unopened paper or cardboard boxes, through cellophane, plastic, and foil 
wrapped packages. Once inside, populations build up rapidly often spreading to 
other stored foods and into food debris accumulated in the cupboard corners, 
cracks, and crevices. Sometimes all life stages (egg, larva, pupa, and adult) 
may be found.

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Make sure that grounds keepers are not using corn gluten for weed suppression 
nearbywhile it is a great way to not use pesticides you do not want it 
outside of buildings with collections housed. JTV



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I seem to be having some luck this week.  Is this a powderpost beetle?

[Inline image 1]

Thanks,

Alan
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Yes. Exactly:  Head, eyes, and temple (space behind eyes to rear of head).  
Actually 3 species in U.S., O. acuminatus in FL from a shipment of neem seeds 
(neem tree has insect repellent and insecticidal properties), but not 
established in 1983. Not sure if this is still correct or not. There are 15 
species world-wide. Typical pest species are the 2 commonly encountered ones, 
O. surinamensis and O. mercator.
BTW see https://www.brooklynbugs.com/ in case you want to do something in NYC 
beginning tomorrow.

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I agree with Richard. The head and the eyes say merchant beetle. Sawtooth and 
merchant are really similar. JTV



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Not a powder post beetle. Instead, it is consistent with the merchant grain 
beetle, Oryzaephilus mercator.


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Hello all,

I seem to be having some luck this week.  Is this a powderpost beetle?

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Thanks,

Alan
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Re: [pestlist] Small Red and Black Beetle

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I would check the door sweeps to see if they are degrading. JTV






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That is a boxelder bug; a typical Fall invader.
Should not pose a problem to any curated or displayed objects.


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Hi All,

I was wondering if anyone could identify what type of beetle this is. A few 
coworkers think that it is  a cotton beetle…but I haven’t been able to find too 
much information on what those beetles do and what potential risks they might 
present to our collection. They have been found (mainly dead) near one of our 
doors that leads outside in groups of anywhere from 10-30 each morning. We have 
also noticed them near the door to an emergency stairwell in another part of 
our building. Most of the time they are dead—likely due to the sprayed barrier 
that we have applied to our exterior doors. But the ones near the emergency 
stairwell were still skittering around.

Any help on how to eradicate them and what they could potentially do to a 
collection would be much appreciated. Thanks!

Best,

Erika Wingfield
Assistant Registrar
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Phoenix Art Museum
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RE: [pestlist] Small Red and Black Beetle

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That is a boxelder bug; a typical Fall invader.
Should not pose a problem to any curated or displayed objects.


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Hi All,

I was wondering if anyone could identify what type of beetle this is. A few 
coworkers think that it is  a cotton beetle...but I haven't been able to find 
too much information on what those beetles do and what potential risks they 
might present to our collection. They have been found (mainly dead) near one of 
our doors that leads outside in groups of anywhere from 10-30 each morning. We 
have also noticed them near the door to an emergency stairwell in another part 
of our building. Most of the time they are dead-likely due to the sprayed 
barrier that we have applied to our exterior doors. But the ones near the 
emergency stairwell were still skittering around.

Any help on how to eradicate them and what they could potentially do to a 
collection would be much appreciated. Thanks!

Best,

Erika Wingfield
Assistant Registrar
Direct: 602.307.2030
Email: erika.wingfi...@phxart.org

Phoenix Art Museum
1625 N. Central Avenue
Phoenix, AZ 85004

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Re: [pestlist] Minute brown scavenger beetle?

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Thanks for the tip, Richard!  I did not know that - handy information for
next time.  This isn't the first insect I've demolished trying to extract
from a glue trap, though I am getting better.

Alan

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> Try loosening the glue with a drop of concentrated orange oil. That often
> does the trick to separate the creature from the glue.
>
>
>
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>
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>
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>
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>
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> Unfortunately, a dorsal view won't be forthcoming - it was in a glue trap
> and the back was pretty much messed up.  But I think cigarette beetle is
> the most likely candidate.  There aren't any live plants near the room
> where I collected this one, and the room is full of antique cameras.  I'll
> poke around in there some more and see what I find.
>
>
>
> Thanks,
>
>
>
> Alan
>
>
>
>
> *Alan P. Van Dyke*
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> I'd say this was a flea beetle (Chrysomelidae, Alticini) - strictly
> vegetarian, only a pest of growing plants.
>
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> I would check of

RE: [pestlist] Please post.

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There are two possibly relevant articles in the current issues of Studies in 
Conservation.
Biotechnology and the Conservation of Cultural Heritage – GETTY PUBLICATIONS
M.L.E. Florian’s publications
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Hello Stephan,
Recently I've been exploring the same issue and can refer you to a few texts.
Disertation Foxing of paper caused by fungi and molecular monitoring of 
conservation treatments, Astrid Michaelsen, Dissertationsgebiet (lt. 
Studienblatt): Dr.- Studium der Naturwissenschaften Genetik-Mikrobiologie 
Betreuer: Universitat Wien, oktober 2010.
http://othes.univie.ac.at/12511/1/2010-10-18_0409787.pdf   especially chapter 
VI - Monitoring of the effects of different conservation treatments on paper 
infecting fungi where the author compares the effect/efficiency of treatment 
with low temperature, gamma radiation, and ethylene oxide.

Have you done sampling, what types of microorganisms, or what species of fungi?

Best Regards,
Tatjana Nedeljković,
Conservator
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Hello,

I am looking for literature and references on the efficiency of thermal 
treatments or freezing not only for the desinfestation of insect pests such as 
wood boring insects, book lice etc., but also for the desinfection of 
micro-organisms (primarily fungi). So basically dry heat desinfection using a 
controlled environment. Information with regards to the treatment of archival 
material and books would be particularly interesting. Are there relative 
sustainable temperatures for paper maybe even considering rare and not rare 
materials. How about combined or hybrid treatments of freezing with subsequent 
heating? Certainly the main concern is possible induced accelerated ageing and 
its quantification. Another major question concerns humid material (paper) as 
it is thought that e.g. gamma irradiation treatment will result in efficient 
desinfecction, however, when the material is irradiated in a humid state and 
exposed to ambient air without prior drying a subsequent micro-organism 
outbreak is nearly unavoidable. In this context what are the best drying 
techniques considering mass treatments and I mean up to several linear 
quilometers of books and archival material.
Any comments and indications will be highly appreciated.

Thanks so much for your help.

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Hello Stephan,
Recently I've been exploring the same issue and can refer you to a few texts.
Disertation Foxing of paper caused by fungi and molecular monitoring of 
conservation treatments, Astrid Michaelsen, Dissertationsgebiet (lt. 
Studienblatt): Dr.- Studium der Naturwissenschaften Genetik-Mikrobiologie 
Betreuer: Universitat Wien, oktober 2010.
http://othes.univie.ac.at/12511/1/2010-10-18_0409787.pdf   especially chapter 
VI - Monitoring of the effects of different conservation treatments on paper 
infecting fungi where the author compares the effect/efficiency of treatment 
with low temperature, gamma radiation, and ethylene oxide.


Have you done sampling, what types of microorganisms, or what species of fungi?

Best Regards,
Tatjana Nedeljković,
Conservator
Central Institute for Conservation – Centre for Conservation-Restoration
Phone: + 381 11 36 26 346 ext.14
Phone/fax: +381 11 36 26 346 ext.19
tatjana.nedeljko...@cik.org.rs
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Hello,



I am looking for literature and references on the efficiency of thermal 
treatments or freezing not only for the desinfestation of insect pests such as 
wood boring insects, book lice etc., but also for the desinfection of 
micro-organisms (primarily fungi). So basically dry heat desinfection using a 
controlled environment. Information with regards to the treatment of archival 
material and books would be particularly interesting. Are there relative 
sustainable temperatures for paper maybe even considering rare and not rare 
materials. How about combined or hybrid treatments of freezing with subsequent 
heating? Certainly the main concern is possible induced accelerated ageing and 
its quantification. Another major question concerns humid material (paper) as 
it is thought that e.g. gamma irradiation treatment will result in efficient 
desinfecction, however, when the material is irradiated in a humid state and 
exposed to ambient air without prior drying a subsequent micro-organism 
outbreak is nearly unavoidable. In this context what are the best drying 
techniques considering mass treatments and I mean up to several linear 
quilometers of books and archival material.

Any comments and indications will be highly appreciated.



Thanks so much for your help.



Stephan Schäfer


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Re: [pestlist] PEST ID help

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Thank you very much!

Cordially,
Catarina Figueirinhas

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2 is a Liposcelis species
9 is a Dorypteryx species
(both booklice, as others have pointed out, but note that Liposcelis are much 
more destructive than Dorypteryx)
10 appears to be Anthrenus (carpet beetle), but not enough detail to say which 
species. Might well be the adult of the larvae in 1 and 7.

Tony

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Hello,

Could someone help ID these insects and arthropods please. The photos are not 
the greatest, but it’s what our equipment allows.

Image 1 -  Size = 2 mm
Image 2 –  Size = 1 mm
Image 3 - Size = 7 mm
Image 4 - Size = 1 mm
Image 5 - Size = 2 mm
Image 6 - Size = 1 mm
Image 7 – Size = 1 mm
Image 8 – Size = 5 mm
Image 9 – Size = 1 mm
Image 10 - Size = 2 mm

Thank you very much for your help.
Catarina

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Re: [pestlist] PEST ID help

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2 is a *Liposcelis *species
9 is a *Dorypteryx *species
(both booklice, as others have pointed out, but note that *Liposcelis *are
much more destructive than *Dorypteryx*)
10 appears to be *Anthrenus *(carpet beetle), but not enough detail to say
which species. Might well be the adult of the larvae in 1 and 7.

Tony

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RE: [pestlist] PEST ID help

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Bug Quiz!
Here's a regional entomologist who might help.
http://www.artsci.uc.edu/faculty-staff/listing/by_dept/biology.html?eid=benoitja

Here are some informed guesses, but I'm not a specialist by any stretch!
Good Luck.
1+7 look like varied carpet beetle larvae?
8 silverfish
6 Stegobium paniceum  Drugstore beetle


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Could someone help ID these insects and arthropods please. The photos are not 
the greatest, but it's what our equipment allows.

Image 1 -  Size = 2 mm
Image 2 -  Size = 1 mm
Image 3 - Size = 7 mm
Image 4 - Size = 1 mm
Image 5 - Size = 2 mm
Image 6 - Size = 1 mm
Image 7 - Size = 1 mm
Image 8 - Size = 5 mm
Image 9 - Size = 1 mm
Image 10 - Size = 2 mm

Thank you very much for your help.
Catarina

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Re: [pestlist] PEST ID help

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I concur with Joel - 2 and 9 are book lice.  4 is some sort of hunting
spider.  Not damaging to collections, but an indicator of infestation.

Alan

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> Image 1 -  Size = 2 mm
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> Image 2 –  Size = 1 mm
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> Image 3 - Size = 7 mm
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> Image 5 - Size = 2 mm
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Photos 2 and 9 Look like book lice to me. JTV



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Could someone help ID these insects and arthropods please. The photos are not 
the greatest, but it’s what our equipment allows.

Image 1 -  Size = 2 mm
Image 2 –  Size = 1 mm
Image 3 - Size = 7 mm
Image 4 - Size = 1 mm
Image 5 - Size = 2 mm
Image 6 - Size = 1 mm
Image 7 – Size = 1 mm
Image 8 – Size = 5 mm
Image 9 – Size = 1 mm
Image 10 - Size = 2 mm

Thank you very much for your help.
Catarina

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RE: [pestlist] Beetle identification

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Yes and also the ventral view of the beetle that showed the head morphology and 
attachment to thorax did not show dermestid associated characters.

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Casey and Matthew -
I think your suggestion that this might be a dermestid is quite reasonable, 
given the compact shape and the presence of scales on the thorax and wing 
cases. However this doesn't match any of the dermestids that I know, and there 
are other families of beetles with scales, notably the weevils and bark beetles 
(Curculionidae). In this case the asymmetric scale pattern gave it away - most 
bark beetles are rather plain, but this genus has a couple of species with such 
a pattern. I used an old book that I've had for over 50 years to make the 
initial identification, and confirmed it with an internet search for images of 
the genus. (There's a limit to what I can keep in my head!) The other clue that 
I had was that Simon mentioned dozens of beetles trying to get out. In my 
experience that most often results from a mass emergence from firewood.
Tony

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To the untrained eye this looks more dermestid-like, though perhaps I project 
my greatest problem onto any bug.  Tony, as an entomologist I trust your 
observation but wonder about the features that drew you to that diagnosis? I 
was looking at shape and scale pattern (though my amature eye).
Casey

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Wow, yeah, Tony narrowed it down!  Makes more sense.

Matt

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Hi Simon
This is one of the bark beetles (Scolytinae) - I would say it is Hylesinus 
fraxini or a close relative. They are usually associated with ash trees 
(Fraxinus), and tunnel under the bark. When they occur in large numbers 
indoors, the first thing to inspect is any firewood. It is most likely they are 
emerging from that. They do not present a threat to the building or its 
contents, except that dead individuals provide food for Anthrenus larvae.
Best wishes
Tony

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Thank you, Tony!
Casey

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Casey and Matthew -
I think your suggestion that this might be a dermestid is quite reasonable, 
given the compact shape and the presence of scales on the thorax and wing 
cases. However this doesn't match any of the dermestids that I know, and there 
are other families of beetles with scales, notably the weevils and bark beetles 
(Curculionidae). In this case the asymmetric scale pattern gave it away - most 
bark beetles are rather plain, but this genus has a couple of species with such 
a pattern. I used an old book that I've had for over 50 years to make the 
initial identification, and confirmed it with an internet search for images of 
the genus. (There's a limit to what I can keep in my head!) The other clue that 
I had was that Simon mentioned dozens of beetles trying to get out. In my 
experience that most often results from a mass emergence from firewood.
Tony

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47 The Avenues
Norwich
Norfolk NR2 3PH
England
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phone: +44(0)1603 453524

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To the untrained eye this looks more dermestid-like, though perhaps I project 
my greatest problem onto any bug.  Tony, as an entomologist I trust your 
observation but wonder about the features that drew you to that diagnosis? I 
was looking at shape and scale pattern (though my amature eye).
Casey

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Assistant Conservator, Sculpture and Decorative Arts Conservation
Virginia Museum of Fine Arts
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Wow, yeah, Tony narrowed it down!  Makes more sense.

Matt

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Hi Simon
This is one of the bark beetles (Scolytinae) - I would say it is Hylesinus 
fraxini or a close relative. They are usually associated with ash trees 
(Fraxinus), and tunnel under the bark. When they occur in large numbers 
indoors, the first thing to inspect is any firewood. It is most likely they are 
emerging from that. They do not present a threat to the building or its 
contents, except that dead individuals provide food for Anthrenus larvae.
Best wishes
Tony

Dr A.G.Irwin
47 The Avenues
Norwich
Norfolk NR2 3PH
England
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phone: +44(0)1603 453524<tel:+44%201603%20453524>

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Tony,

Fascinating!  I also noticed that the legs seemed “hairy” as opposed to those 
on the dermestids I was looking at.  Is this a correct observation?

Best,
Matt

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Casey and Matthew -
I think your suggestion that this might be a dermestid is quite reasonable, 
given the compact shape and the presence of scales on the thorax and wing 
cases. However this doesn't match any of the dermestids that I know, and there 
are other families of beetles with scales, notably the weevils and bark beetles 
(Curculionidae). In this case the asymmetric scale pattern gave it away - most 
bark beetles are rather plain, but this genus has a couple of species with such 
a pattern. I used an old book that I've had for over 50 years to make the 
initial identification, and confirmed it with an internet search for images of 
the genus. (There's a limit to what I can keep in my head!) The other clue that 
I had was that Simon mentioned dozens of beetles trying to get out. In my 
experience that most often results from a mass emergence from firewood.
Tony

Dr A.G.Irwin
47 The Avenues
Norwich
Norfolk NR2 3PH
England
mobile: +44(0)7880707834
phone: +44(0)1603 453524

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To the untrained eye this looks more dermestid-like, though perhaps I project 
my greatest problem onto any bug.  Tony, as an entomologist I trust your 
observation but wonder about the features that drew you to that diagnosis? I 
was looking at shape and scale pattern (though my amature eye).
Casey

Casey Mallinckrodt
Assistant Conservator, Sculpture and Decorative Arts Conservation
Virginia Museum of Fine Arts
804 340 1345<tel:(804)%20340-1345>

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Wow, yeah, Tony narrowed it down!  Makes more sense.

Matt

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Hi Simon
This is one of the bark beetles (Scolytinae) - I would say it is Hylesinus 
fraxini or a close relative. They are usually associated with ash trees 
(Fraxinus), and tunnel under the bark. When they occur in large numbers 
indoors, the first thing to inspect is any firewood. It is most likely they are 
emerging from that. They do not present a threat to the building or its 
contents, except that dead individuals provide food for Anthrenus larvae.
Best wishes
Tony

Dr A.G.Irwin
47 The Avenues
Norwich
Norfolk NR2 3PH
England
mobi

RE: [pestlist] Beetle identification

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To the untrained eye this looks more dermestid-like, though perhaps I project 
my greatest problem onto any bug.  Tony, as an entomologist I trust your 
observation but wonder about the features that drew you to that diagnosis? I 
was looking at shape and scale pattern (though my amature eye).
Casey

Casey Mallinckrodt
Assistant Conservator, Sculpture and Decorative Arts Conservation
Virginia Museum of Fine Arts
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Wow, yeah, Tony narrowed it down!  Makes more sense.

Matt

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IPM Working Group Co-Chair

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Hi Simon
This is one of the bark beetles (Scolytinae) - I would say it is Hylesinus 
fraxini or a close relative. They are usually associated with ash trees 
(Fraxinus), and tunnel under the bark. When they occur in large numbers 
indoors, the first thing to inspect is any firewood. It is most likely they are 
emerging from that. They do not present a threat to the building or its 
contents, except that dead individuals provide food for Anthrenus larvae.
Best wishes
Tony

Dr A.G.Irwin
47 The Avenues
Norwich
Norfolk NR2 3PH
England
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phone: +44(0)1603 453524

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Hallo Group,

This little guy I could not find in any of my books. The specimen is from 
southern Jutland in Denmark. Dozens of individuals of this species appeared 
inside an old, inhabited farm house (timber structures, probably organic 
filling material in ceilings, all kinds of possible food sources available, but 
the source has not yet been discovered) in the course of July, flying to the 
windows to get outside. They are about 3 mm in length. Colour isn’t great in 
the pictures, but greyish-brown with off-white scale markings is still pretty 
much what it looks like in real.
Any help would be appreciated!

Best regards,

Simon Schölch
Konserveringstekniker / Dipl.-Rest.

Bevaringscenter Fyn
v/Langelands Museum

Østergade 25
5900 Rudkøbing
Tlf. + 45 63 51 63 12<tel:+45%2063%2051%2063%2012>
Tlf. + 45 63 51 63 13<tel:+45%2063%2051%2063%2013>
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RE: [pestlist] Beetle identification

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Wow, yeah, Tony narrowed it down!  Makes more sense.

Matt

Matthew A. Mickletz – Manager, Preventive Conservation – Winterthur 
Museum<http://www.winterthur.org/> – 302.888.4752
IPM Working Group Co-Chair

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Hi Simon
This is one of the bark beetles (Scolytinae) - I would say it is Hylesinus 
fraxini or a close relative. They are usually associated with ash trees 
(Fraxinus), and tunnel under the bark. When they occur in large numbers 
indoors, the first thing to inspect is any firewood. It is most likely they are 
emerging from that. They do not present a threat to the building or its 
contents, except that dead individuals provide food for Anthrenus larvae.
Best wishes
Tony

Dr A.G.Irwin
47 The Avenues
Norwich
Norfolk NR2 3PH
England
mobile: +44(0)7880707834
phone: +44(0)1603 453524

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Hallo Group,

This little guy I could not find in any of my books. The specimen is from 
southern Jutland in Denmark. Dozens of individuals of this species appeared 
inside an old, inhabited farm house (timber structures, probably organic 
filling material in ceilings, all kinds of possible food sources available, but 
the source has not yet been discovered) in the course of July, flying to the 
windows to get outside. They are about 3 mm in length. Colour isn’t great in 
the pictures, but greyish-brown with off-white scale markings is still pretty 
much what it looks like in real.
Any help would be appreciated!

Best regards,

Simon Schölch
Konserveringstekniker / Dipl.-Rest.

Bevaringscenter Fyn
v/Langelands Museum

Østergade 25
5900 Rudkøbing
Tlf. + 45 63 51 63 12<tel:+45%2063%2051%2063%2012>
Tlf. + 45 63 51 63 13<tel:+45%2063%2051%2063%2013>
E-mail: s...@langelandkommune.dk<mailto:s...@langelandkommune.dk>

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RE: [pestlist] Beetle identification

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Hello Simon,

It looks very similar to an adult museum beetle, Anthrenus museorum, in the 
dermestid group.  Others might have a keener eye, however.  :)

The habit of them trying to get out windows, failing and depositing themselves 
in as the sills, is similar to what I see in adult varied carpet beetles.  In 
your farm house their larvae could be feeding on dead rodents, other dead 
insects within the structure.

Some more information on them via MuseumPests.net website:
http://museumpests.net/wp-content/uploads/2015/03/museum-beetle-fact-sheet.pdf

Best,
Matt

Matthew A. Mickletz - Manager, Preventive Conservation - Winterthur 
Museum - 302.888.4752
IPM Working Group Co-Chair

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Hallo Group,

This little guy I could not find in any of my books. The specimen is from 
southern Jutland in Denmark. Dozens of individuals of this species appeared 
inside an old, inhabited farm house (timber structures, probably organic 
filling material in ceilings, all kinds of possible food sources available, but 
the source has not yet been discovered) in the course of July, flying to the 
windows to get outside. They are about 3 mm in length. Colour isn't great in 
the pictures, but greyish-brown with off-white scale markings is still pretty 
much what it looks like in real.
Any help would be appreciated!

Best regards,

Simon Schölch
Konserveringstekniker / Dipl.-Rest.

Bevaringscenter Fyn
v/Langelands Museum

Østergade 25
5900 Rudkøbing
Tlf. + 45 63 51 63 12
Tlf. + 45 63 51 63 13
E-mail: s...@langelandkommune.dk

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Re: [pestlist] Beetle identification

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Hi Simon
This is one of the bark beetles (Scolytinae) - I would say it is *Hylesinus
fraxini* or a close relative. They are usually associated with ash trees (
*Fraxinus*), and tunnel under the bark. When they occur in large numbers
indoors, the first thing to inspect is any firewood. It is most likely they
are emerging from that. They do not present a threat to the building or its
contents, except that dead individuals provide food for *Anthrenus* larvae.
Best wishes
Tony

Dr A.G.Irwin
47 The Avenues
Norwich
Norfolk NR2 3PH
England

mobile: +44(0)7880707834
phone: +44(0)1603 453524

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> Hallo Group,
>
>
>
> This little guy I could not find in any of my books. The specimen is from
> southern Jutland in Denmark. Dozens of individuals of this species appeared
> inside an old, inhabited farm house (timber structures, probably organic
> filling material in ceilings, all kinds of possible food sources available,
> but the source has not yet been discovered) in the course of July, flying
> to the windows to get outside. They are about 3 mm in length. Colour isn’t
> great in the pictures, but greyish-brown with off-white scale markings is
> still pretty much what it looks like in real.
>
> Any help would be appreciated!
>
>
>
> Best regards,
>
>
>
> Simon Schölch
>
> Konserveringstekniker / Dipl.-Rest.
>
>
>
> Bevaringscenter Fyn
>
> v/Langelands Museum
>
>
>
> Østergade 25
>
> 5900 Rudkøbing
>
> Tlf. + 45 63 51 63 12 <+45%2063%2051%2063%2012>
>
> Tlf. + 45 63 51 63 13 <+45%2063%2051%2063%2013>
>
> E-mail: s...@langelandkommune.dk
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Re: [pestlist] Request for Insect ID- Pictures of Carcass and Frass

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Yup.  Drywood termite.  The frass will be the color of the wood in which they 
are feeding.  The workers make a "kick hole" out of which they discard the 
frass.  If you open up their galleries, there will be lots of pelletized frass 
in them.  The pellets look like old time, deflated footballs.
 
Tom Parker
 
 
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Hi All, 
 
We found an insect in our galleries today that we would like help identifying. 
It looks like it is probably a younger drywood termite, but the frass doesn’t 
look right for this identification. Anyone have any ideas on what this insect 
may be? Thanks in advance for your assistance!
 
Sincerely, 
Blair Bailey
 
Blair Bailey
Conservation Fellow
 
The John & Mable Ringling Museum of Art
5401 Bay Shore Road
Sarasota, FL 34243
(941)359-5700, ext 1604
 

 
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