[pinhole-discussion] Happy Holidays
A Merry Christmas, Happy Hanukah a SAFE - Happy New year to all my pinhole friends. regards Andy Schmitt Computerist, Photographer, Slayer of Dragons All opinions expressed are mine... Unless otherwise stated or REALLY stupid www.aandy.org - not non-profit on purpose Head of Photography, Peters Valley Craft Center
[pinhole-discussion] can be on topic...
Just a few things I've found this weekend @ Home Depot/Lowes a. 5x7 Aluminum Step Flashing 10 pieces ~2.00 (85-068) (roofing Dept) nice flat rather thin aluminum pieces(Amerimax Home Products) too thick for good pinholes but flexible enough to play with. Also real good for doing modern tintypes with Liquid Photo Emulsion. Make sure you get a pack that isn't bent or creased... b. Really nice large trays cheep. Look for Refrigerator trays. I guess people put their refrigerators in them to stop condensation from running on the floor. They are a few inches hi and bigger than the size of the footprint of a large refrigerator. The are less than $10 each. Nice for processing that really big paper negative.. c. Bellow Patching compound. Equinox Photographic - equi...@pond.net . Put it on with a small brush or Q-Tip. Flexible seal...just nice stuff. (not at HD/Lowes..) well enough rambling hope this helps someone. KOPH'n andy
RE: [pinhole-discussion] WPPD 2003
I don't know about that James... I think it was the people who ran this gave us the opportunity to join together 'round the world that deserve the BIG ROUND OF APPLAUSE! thanks andy -Original Message- From: pinhole-discussion-admin@p at ??? [mailto:pinhole-discussion-admin@p at ???]On Behalf Of James Kellar Sent: Monday, June 02, 2003 12:20 AM To: Pinhole Disscussion Group Subject: [pinhole-discussion] WPPD 2003 Hi all, Now that WPPD 2003 is now over I want to thank every one that made it all possible. That not only goes to all the folks you see listed at http://www.pinholeday.org/gallery/2003/index.php?epage=credits, who deserve a big round a applause, but every one who submitted a photograph. I found it hard to believe that there were 1082 submissions from 43 countries. Thanks for a great WPPD and see you next year. James ___ Post to the list as PLAIN TEXT only - no HTML Pinhole-Discussion mailing list Pinhole-Discussion@p at ??? unsubscribe or change your account at http://www.???/discussion/
RE: [pinhole-discussion] Brass shim stock
try your local hobby store. (if one still exists there) Model builders use it along with all sorts of weird brass plastic stocks. andy -Original Message- From: pinhole-discussion-admin@p at ??? [mailto:pinhole-discussion-admin@p at ???]On Behalf Of John Moore Sent: Tuesday, May 06, 2003 11:24 PM To: pinhole-discussion@p at ??? Subject: RE: [pinhole-discussion] Brass shim stock McMaster-Carr! (http://www.mcmaster.com/) Search for part number 9504K11 under Find Products (top left corner). 6 x 60 is $4.22... you can make a whole lotta pinholes with this! John Moore Ramona, CA --- On Tue 05/06, Chrome Dome crd...@lycos.com wrote: Where do you find 0.001 brass shim stock? ___ No banners. No pop-ups. No kidding. Introducing My Way - http://www.myway.com ___ Post to the list as PLAIN TEXT only - no HTML Pinhole-Discussion mailing list Pinhole-Discussion@p at ??? unsubscribe or change your account at http://www.???/discussion/
RE: [pinhole-discussion] 6x22 pinhole camera coverage?!
try it. I have a 4x5 that does about a 30mm focal length. The fall off is a really neat effect. You can crop it if you don't like it for the particular image. andy -Original Message- From: pinhole-discussion-admin@p at ??? [mailto:pinhole-discussion-admin@p at ???]On Behalf Of Andrew Amundsen Sent: Saturday, March 15, 2003 2:48 PM To: pinhole-discussion@p at ??? Subject: Re: [pinhole-discussion] 6x22 pinhole camera coverage?! The camera is said to have a 60mm focal length. Does anyone have experience with images made that wide, nearly 8.5 inches, from such a focal lenth (at f/360) on 120 film? Are the edges even useful at that extreme? I guess what I'm getting at is this camera a gimmick? Will the user most likey have to crop only the center portion of the neg. for a usable image and not really get the full 22cm effect? What do you think? Thanks, Andrew -- From: Scott Sellers scottsell...@mindspring.com Andrew Amundsen a...@tcinternet.net wrote (snip): My inquiry is regarding how an image would look from such a long neg.? The stated aperture size is f/360. Would the edges suffer from extreme distortion? I'm surprised that the coverage would even fill that length of 22cm!? They share no images produced with said camera so I have doubts, with my limited understanding of pinhole imagery, to how good the detail would be at the extremes? Anyone care to enlighten us with some expertise? The main factor when considering coverage is focal length. To get an idea of how a particular FL will cover various formats, you could make say an 8x10 a camera of the same focal length, shoot some images, then mask off the negative size you are considering, be it 6x6, 6x9, 6x22, 4x5, 5x7, etc. cheers, Scott ___ Post to the list as PLAIN TEXT only - no HTML Pinhole-Discussion mailing list Pinhole-Discussion@p at ??? unsubscribe or change your account at http://www.???/discussion/
[pinhole-discussion] The Photo Review Competition
I'm sure that some of you have received this but just in case good luck! andy -Original Message- From: Stephen Perloff [mailto:i...@photoreview.org] Sent: Monday, March 10, 2003 4:42 PM To: Recipient List Suppressed: Subject: The Photo Review Competition INFLUENTIAL GALLERIST BILL HUNT TO JURY THE 2003 PHOTO REVIEW PHOTOGRAPHY COMPETITION Bill Hunt, the influential Directory of Photography of New York's Ricco/Maresca Gallery, will be the juror for the 2003 Photo Review Photography Competition. The Photo Review, a highly acclaimed critical journal of photography, is sponsoring its 19th annual photography competition with a difference. Instead of only installing an exhibit that would be seen by a limited number of people, The Photo Review will reproduce accepted entries in its Summer 2003 issue. Thus, the accepted photographs will be seen by thousands of people all across the country and entrants will have a tangible benefit from the competition. Also, the prize-winning photographers will be chosen for an exhibition at the photography gallery of The University of the Arts, Philadelphia. Because their work was seen in The Photo Review, past winners have been given one-person exhibitions, have had their work reproduced in other leading photography magazines like DoubleTake, and have sold their work to collectors throughout the country. $1,000.00 in cash prizes will be awarded. An entry fee of $25 for up to three prints or slides, and $5 each for up to two additional prints or slides, entitles all entrants to a copy of the catalogue. In addition, all entrants will be able to subscribe to The Photo Review for $30, a 20% discount. All entries must be received by mail between May 1 and May 15, 2003. For a prospectus and details, send a self-addressed, stamped business-size (#10) envelope to: The Photo Review, 140 East Richardson Avenue, Suite 301, Langhorne, PA 19047. The prospectus may also be downloaded from The Photo Review website, http://www.photoreview.org. For further information call 215/891-0214. THE PHOTO REVIEW Publishing since 1976, The Photo Review covers photography events throughout the country and serves as a central resource for photography in the Mid-Atlantic region. The quarterly journal, printed on coated paper with high quality reproduction, contains reviews, portfolios, interviews, book reviews, and news. The Photo Review has presented previously unpublished images by Duane Michals, Weegee, and Frederick Sommer, and catalogues for a James VanDerZee exhibition, a show of Lois Greenfield's dynamic dance photographs, and Changing Visions of the American Landscape. Its writers include A.D. Coleman, Frank Day, Diana Gaston, Shelley Rice, Peter Hay Halpert, Barbara L. Michaels, Daile Kaplan, Jean Dykstra, and Mark Power. Subscriptions are $38 per year for the quarterly journal and the newsletter, issued eight times a year, which contains exhibition listings, exhibition opportunities from around the country and the world, and news. If you do not want to receive occasional notices of news about The Photo Review, please reply without deleting this message and enter the word remove in the subject line. -- The Photo Review 140 East Richardson Avenue, Suite 301 Langhorne, PA 19047 Phone: 215/891-0214 Fax: 215/891-9358 E-Mail: i...@photoreview.org Website: http://www.photoreview.org
RE: [pinhole-discussion] For those who want to go into really, really, really large format...
Guy's in Montreal, Canada... I'm in the NW NJ USA andy -Original Message- From: pinhole-discussion-admin@p at ??? [mailto:pinhole-discussion-admin@p at ???]On Behalf Of pinholeren...@netscape.net Sent: Thursday, March 06, 2003 5:07 PM To: pinhole-discussion@p at ??? Subject: RE: [pinhole-discussion] For those who want to go into really, really, really large format... does it come with a 4x5 reduing back?just kidding.what state or country are you in Guy? -Original Message- From: pinhole-discussion-admin@p at ??? [mailto:pinhole-discussion-admin@p at ???]On Behalf Of Guy Glorieux Sent: Thursday, March 06, 2003 8:48 AM To: pinhole List Subject: [pinhole-discussion] For those who awnat to go into really, really, really large format... Hi folks, I picked this up from the Large Format list. http://www.englers-welt.de/grosskamera/grosskamera.html Anybody interested? (of course, you would have to remove the lens...) Otherwise, it will go to the dump. Guy ___ Post to the list as PLAIN TEXT only - no HTML Pinhole-Discussion mailing list Pinhole-Discussion@p at ??? unsubscribe or change your account at http://www.???/discussion/ ___ Post to the list as PLAIN TEXT only - no HTML Pinhole-Discussion mailing list Pinhole-Discussion@p at ??? unsubscribe or change your account at http://www.???/discussion/ __ The NEW Netscape 7.0 browser is now available. Upgrade now! http://channels.netscape.com/ns/browsers/download.jsp Get your own FREE, personal Netscape Mail account today at http://webmail.netscape.com/ ___ Post to the list as PLAIN TEXT only - no HTML Pinhole-Discussion mailing list Pinhole-Discussion@p at ??? unsubscribe or change your account at http://www.???/discussion/
RE: [pinhole-discussion] Using photo paper in film holders
Hey Patrick Welcome... Stainless steel isn't the best... Silver then Brass. I don't see .001 silver in the hobby store so I use brass. It works just fine. Please look through ebay buy an old Kodak (etc) 8x10 film holder. They are a pain in the a** to make light tight why reinvent the wheel.. 8o) Paper works just fine in a negative holder. You can prototype your design in black foam core gaffers tape.. works fine you might not even take it to plywood. I say this after not using foam core myself but what can I say, I'm masochistic. keep in touch have fun andy schmitt -Original Message- From: pinhole-discussion-admin@p at ??? [mailto:pinhole-discussion-admin@p at ???]On Behalf Of Patrick Carroll Sent: Tuesday, February 25, 2003 10:46 AM To: pinhole-discussion@p at ??? Subject: [pinhole-discussion] Using photo paper in film holders Greetings, This is my first post. Been following for a few months and getting encouragment to continue my pinhole endeavors. I have a Besseler cardboard 120 pinhole camera that I have used on and off, and am now ready to venture into the world on homemade cameras. The Besseler takes great shots, but is a little light in weight and hard to steady unless left alone on the ground or strapped to a tripod. I have a Bender 4x5 kit my brother gave me and I want to make an 8x10 and use film holders for both. My question is can I use photo paper in a film holder? I'm just getting into darkroom work and would like to start off slow by using paper instead of film. I've never used a film holder and am currently looking to get one to study it and take dimensions for building the camera. Going to make the 8x10 from 1/4in ply. Working on a camlock system to lock and seal the holder against the back of the camera. Saw the one listed in a link either here or on the forum with the swing up door on the back - that looks simple enough to make too. Any suggestions would be great. Also, I'm planning to use .001 brass shim stock for the pinhole. Any disadvantages with oxidation of the brass? I imagine stainless would be best, but the brass was easy to get and cheap. Hopefully I'll have one of the cameras by April for the Pinhole Day activities. Thanks, Patrick ___ Post to the list as PLAIN TEXT only - no HTML Pinhole-Discussion mailing list Pinhole-Discussion@p at ??? unsubscribe or change your account at http://www.???/discussion/
RE: [pinhole-discussion] Pinhole Visions website
'cause email can be read off line.. what's wrong with having both? James has done a wonderful job with them. andy -Original Message- From: pinhole-discussion-admin@p at ??? [mailto:pinhole-discussion-admin@p at ???]On Behalf Of elrod...@cs.com Sent: Monday, February 24, 2003 5:56 PM To: pinhole-discussion@p at ??? Subject: Re: [pinhole-discussion] Pinhole Visions website Frankly, I don't know why folks want to use this e-mail list as much as they do when there is an excellent forum at Pinhole Visions. ElrodCod ___ Post to the list as PLAIN TEXT only - no HTML Pinhole-Discussion mailing list Pinhole-Discussion@p at ??? unsubscribe or change your account at http://www.???/discussion/
RE: [pinhole-discussion] Giant Bellows
ok Guy... I think we have to pass... but only if we get to see the final result.. ;*) andy -Original Message- From: pinhole-discussion-admin@p at ??? [mailto:pinhole-discussion-admin@p at ???]On Behalf Of Moodie, Jason Sent: Monday, February 24, 2003 9:34 AM To: pinhole-discussion@p at ??? Subject: RE: [pinhole-discussion] Giant Bellows If no one is interested in the bellows. I really am. My students are building a camera for their final project and bellows would be great to pick up instead of build on their own. I will just have to alter the size of the design I'm sure. Jason Moodie Sammamish High School Visual Arts Department 100 140th Ave SE Bellevue WA 98005 (425)456-7659 -- From: andy schmitt Reply To: pinhole-discussion@p at ??? Sent: Sunday, February 23, 2003 8:16 PM To: pinhole-discussion@p at ??? Subject: RE: [pinhole-discussion] Giant Bellows ow Guy... I think we have a project... andy -Original Message- From: pinhole-discussion-admin@p at ??? [mailto:pinhole-discussion-admin@p at ???]On Behalf Of James Kellar Sent: Friday, February 21, 2003 8:03 PM To: Pinhole Disscussion Group Subject: [pinhole-discussion] Giant Bellows I have a Giant Bellows that I tried to sell on ebay, but it seems that now one wants it. So if any one on the list can use it I will let it go for how ever much it cost to box it up and ship it. Below is the description I used on ebay, and if you want to see a photo of it goto, http://www.jameskellar.com/bellows.jpg. Up for Bid are Bellows from a copy camera. I believe that these are the biggest bellows that I have ever seen. The rear opening is 29 and front is 13. I was unable ot extend them fully, my guess is that will extend 6 to 8'. When I took the photo they were extended 4'. I believe that bellows are light tight, but I cannot guarantee it. Thanks James James Kellar Co-manager of the Pinhole Discussion List http://www.???/discussion/ pinh...@jameskellar.com http://www.jameskellar.com ___ Post to the list as PLAIN TEXT only - no HTML Pinhole-Discussion mailing list Pinhole-Discussion@p at ??? unsubscribe or change your account at http://www.???/discussion/ ___ Post to the list as PLAIN TEXT only - no HTML Pinhole-Discussion mailing list Pinhole-Discussion@p at ??? unsubscribe or change your account at http://www.???/discussion/ ___ Post to the list as PLAIN TEXT only - no HTML Pinhole-Discussion mailing list Pinhole-Discussion@p at ??? unsubscribe or change your account at http://www.???/discussion/
RE: [pinhole-discussion] D'Arcy Power article on-line
cool thanks... andy -Original Message- From: pinhole-discussion-admin@p at ??? [mailto:pinhole-discussion-admin@p at ???]On Behalf Of Nick Dvoracek Sent: Thursday, February 20, 2003 5:46 PM To: pinhole-discussion@p at ??? Subject: [pinhole-discussion] D'Arcy Power article on-line A while ago there was a thread about an article by H. D'Arcy Power: Advanced Pinhole Photography from The Photo Miniature from July 1905. I got a photocopy through interlibrary loan and created an Adobe Acrobat document which I've posted on my website http://idea.uwosh.edu/nick/pinholephoto.htm I looked into the copyright issue and anything published before 1923 is in the public domain (http://www.unc.edu/~unclng/public-d.htm) so I'm pretty sure I'm not infringing anyone's copyright. I'm afraid it's kind of big, 3.6 MB, but that's not bad for a 46 page article scanned at high resolution (text and line art at 300 dpi, images, grey scale at 150 dpi). I've turned my interlibrary loan wizard loose on the citations he gives to other works and maybe will get those posted also. -- Nick Dvoracek dvora...@uwosh.edu Director of Media Services Voice: 920-424-7363 University of Wisconsin Oshkosh Fax: 920-424-7324 http://idea.uwosh.edu/media_services/home.html http://idea.uwosh.edu/nick/handouts.htm ___ Post to the list as PLAIN TEXT only - no HTML Pinhole-Discussion mailing list Pinhole-Discussion@p at ??? unsubscribe or change your account at http://www.???/discussion/
RE: [pinhole-discussion] freestyle cold-stored color film $ blowout
http://www.freestylephoto.biz/clearance.php?wcat=99 andy -Original Message- From: pinhole-discussion-admin@p at ??? [mailto:pinhole-discussion-admin@p at ???]On Behalf Of George Sent: Tuesday, February 18, 2003 10:19 AM To: pinhole-discussion@p at ??? Subject: RE: [pinhole-discussion] freestyle cold-stored color film $ blowout Murray - Did they include a URL? I didn't see anything on their site (I think I was looking at their site). Cheers - george - http://GLSmyth.com http://DRiPInvesting.org --- On Mon 02/17, Uptown Gallery mur...@uptowngallery.org wrote: From: Uptown Gallery [mailto: mur...@uptowngallery.org] To: pinhole-discussion@p at ??? List-Post: pinhole-discussion@pinhole.com Date: Mon, 17 Feb 2003 21:13:51 -0500 Subject: [pinhole-discussion] freestyle cold-stored color film $ blowout Hello: I got email from Freestyle today for past-expiration cold-stored film. Great prices. Film up to 11x14 size. It was html or I would have forwarded it. Murray ___ Post to the list as PLAIN TEXT only - no HTML Pinhole-Discussion mailing list Pinhole-Discussion@p at ??? unsubscribe or change your account at http://www.???/discussion/ ___ No banners. No pop-ups. No kidding. Introducing My Way - http://www.myway.com ___ Post to the list as PLAIN TEXT only - no HTML Pinhole-Discussion mailing list Pinhole-Discussion@p at ??? unsubscribe or change your account at http://www.???/discussion/
[pinhole-discussion] New find for paper negatives...
Hi all As I am known to do, I just purchased 5 rolls of something I had never heard of from Ebay... 'cause it was cheep! What I got this time was Kodak Pagi-Set RC Phototypesetting paper. 8x150' rolls ... Was I surprised when I noticed it was processed under a #1 (red) safelight. Stuck it under an 8x10 negative did a test strip processed it in Dektol 1:2. Low behold I actually got a stable image. This stuff is like having single weight RC paper with a matt finish so... Looks like paper negative time. I'll let you know what happens... If you ever get a chance to get some, try it. Ow yes... Don't get Linagraph Direct paper... (Cat 198 6520) ... it doesn't appear to be sensitive to White light at all...man do I have a bunch too... it comes in 12x400' rolls. Well enough of this. Have a great weekend regards Andy Schmitt Computerist, Photographer, Slayer of Dragons All opinions expressed are mine... Unless otherwise stated or REALLY stupid www.aandy.org - not non-profit on purpose Head of Photography, Peters Valley Craft Center
RE: [pinhole-discussion] people in workshop
good, thanks.. sounds like it was fun. we limit all our classes to below 10. have a great week andy -Original Message- From: pinhole-discussion-admin@p at ??? [mailto:pinhole-discussion-admin@p at ???]On Behalf Of ethereal art Sent: Saturday, February 01, 2003 8:07 PM To: pinhole-discussion@p at ??? Subject: [pinhole-discussion] people in workshop Message: 1 From: andy schmitt aschm...@warwick.net Subject: RE: [pinhole-discussion] workshop experiences off the topic but a quick question... How many people were in your workshop? thanks andy In the Platinum workshop, there were 9. In other alternative processes, there have been as many as 15. Rosanne ___ Post to the list as PLAIN TEXT only - no HTML Pinhole-Discussion mailing list Pinhole-Discussion@p at ??? unsubscribe or change your account at http://www.???/discussion/
RE: [pinhole-discussion] New photo show
actually they are kind of relaxing... 8o) .they take soo long you can catch up on your reading ... andy -Original Message- From: pinhole-discussion-admin@p at ??? [mailto:pinhole-discussion-admin@p at ???]On Behalf Of erick...@hickorytech.net Sent: Thursday, January 30, 2003 1:56 PM To: pinhole-discussion@p at ??? Subject: Re: [pinhole-discussion] New photo show You're biting off a very big chunk. Taking on a new method, thirty day time limit and very large prints. I've tried most of them, and I think that the easiest and most foolproof is cyanotype. you will need large format contact negs for any of these anyway. Cyanotype exposure can be maddening in northen climes in winter. - Original Message - From: Catherine Just blue_medic...@yahoo.com To: Pinhole-Discussion@p at ??? Sent: Wednesday, January 29, 2003 3:43 PM Subject: [pinhole-discussion] New photo show Hi Everyone, I've bene getting the BEST mail lately - Thank you to everyone who is sending images! I hope you enjoy mine as well. I just spoke with a gallery owner and showed her my new series of pinholes I shot while in England. My boyfriend shot images with a digital camera and we are trying to have a show that has both our work. It's actually very interesting to see digital versus pinhole. The oldest technique and the newest, of the same place. He is going to print them in the most recent developing practice - like Iris printing, and I want to do an old process like platinum palladium, or something along those lines and I'm thinking I want to print BIG. I want 30x40. But may go 20x24. I think he is printing small. Curious if you know of any workshops in alternative printing practices that you recommend. I've seen some - there is one in Yosemite on Platinum.palladium that looks amazing. I LOVE the collodion look but that's done on the glass plate before exposure. ( Can you do collodion with a pinhole?? ) Any workshop experiences or advice will be great. I would like to start printing in a month. I just need to decide which process would look the best for this type of imagery. Since I was holding the camers for 45 second exposures - the images are pretty soft. and have motion to them. Sincerely, Catherine = Catherine Just Photography Weddings~Portraits~Fine Art http://www.catherinejust.com 619.294.3195
RE: [pinhole-discussion] New photo show
Hi Catherine I run the program for Peters Valley Photography in NJ. Please take a look at out offerings for the spring/summer. http://www.pvcrafts.org/2003%20Workshops/photography03.htm We have a lot of sessions in alternative photography including Guy G. coming from Quebec to teach a pinhole class. thanks sorry for the sales pitch. andy schmitt -Original Message- From: pinhole-discussion-admin@p at ??? [mailto:pinhole-discussion-admin@p at ???]On Behalf Of Catherine Just Sent: Wednesday, January 29, 2003 4:44 PM To: Pinhole-Discussion@p at ??? Subject: [pinhole-discussion] New photo show Hi Everyone, I've bene getting the BEST mail lately - Thank you to everyone who is sending images! I hope you enjoy mine as well. I just spoke with a gallery owner and showed her my new series of pinholes I shot while in England. My boyfriend shot images with a digital camera and we are trying to have a show that has both our work. It's actually very interesting to see digital versus pinhole. The oldest technique and the newest, of the same place. He is going to print them in the most recent developing practice - like Iris printing, and I want to do an old process like platinum palladium, or something along those lines and I'm thinking I want to print BIG. I want 30x40. But may go 20x24. I think he is printing small. Curious if you know of any workshops in alternative printing practices that you recommend. I've seen some - there is one in Yosemite on Platinum.palladium that looks amazing. I LOVE the collodion look but that's done on the glass plate before exposure. ( Can you do collodion with a pinhole?? ) Any workshop experiences or advice will be great. I would like to start printing in a month. I just need to decide which process would look the best for this type of imagery. Since I was holding the camers for 45 second exposures - the images are pretty soft. and have motion to them. Sincerely, Catherine = Catherine Just Photography Weddings~Portraits~Fine Art http://www.catherinejust.com 619.294.3195 Don't just state your intent, Live it. ~Jerry Seiner Jr. _
RE: [pinhole-discussion] 1905 ph work
ditto for me as well. thanks again andy -Original Message- From: pinhole-discussion-admin@p at ??? [mailto:pinhole-discussion-admin@p at ???]On Behalf Of John Yeo Sent: Tuesday, January 14, 2003 7:53 AM To: pinhole-discussion@p at ??? Subject: Re: [pinhole-discussion] 1905 ph work John, I would appreciate a copy. I tried emailing you directly, but it bounced back. I'll send off an 8x10 SASE with a few dollars to cover reproduction costs. Thanks, John Yeo -- http://www.enteric.org - Original Message - From: John F. Ptak 3legskil...@thesciencebookstore.com To: pinhole-discussion@p at ??? Sent: Wednesday, January 08, 2003 7:14 PM Subject: [pinhole-discussion] 1905 ph work Hello all. I'm a frequent reader/infrequent contributor to this list. Recently I stumbled upon an interesting 40-page article on Advanced Pinhole Photography by D'Arcy Power in The Photo Miniature for July, 1905. It turns out that Power was a member of the Royal Academy of Surgeons and made significant contributions in general surgery as well as the bibliography of surgical history. He was born in 1855 and outlived this article by 36 years--a long life. Anyway it is a solid article--a copy of which I'd be happy to share with folks here if they sent me a note and a return (8x10) envelope with a few first class stamps on it. Feel free to contact me if interested. Best, John Ptak -- John Ptak JF Ptak Science Books 255 Cumberland Avenue Asheville, North Carolina USA 28801 p. 828.350.8698f. 202.318.3244 http://www.thesciencebookstore.com Specializing in Iconic and Obscure Works in the History of Science, as well as unusual and uncommon antique maps and prints. -- ___ Post to the list as PLAIN TEXT only - no HTML Pinhole-Discussion mailing list Pinhole-Discussion@p at ??? unsubscribe or change your account at http://www.???/discussion/ ___ Post to the list as PLAIN TEXT only - no HTML Pinhole-Discussion mailing list Pinhole-Discussion@p at ??? unsubscribe or change your account at http://www.???/discussion/
[pinhole-discussion] Pinhole vision
It never fails to amaze me what a few words will cause... sort of like the flapping of a butterfly's wings in China affecting the weather in the US. regards Andy Schmitt Computerist, Photographer, Slayer of Dragons All opinions expressed are mine... Unless otherwise stated or REALLY stupid www.aandy.org - not non-profit on purpose Head of Photography, Peters Valley Craft Center
RE: [pinhole-discussion] Coverage
Well put... I'm STILL getting use to getting closer than close to my subjects. andy -Original Message- From: pinhole-discussion-admin@p at ??? [mailto:pinhole-discussion-admin@p at ???]On Behalf Of Michael Healy Sent: Sunday, January 12, 2003 3:24 PM To: pinhole-discussion@p at ??? Subject: Re: [pinhole-discussion] Coverage snip One thing I especially like about the super short focal length pinhole is that it kicks me in the rear with lousy images every time I stand more than 18 from my subject. Using 50mm on a 4x5 means that you run the risk of having your subject poke you in the eye while you're trying to maneuver close enough. It also FEELS weird and overbearing to place a 4x5 studio camera mere inches from something. The whole experience makes for a very strange, enchanting, but also humbling encounter with reality. Mike ...
RE: [pinhole-discussion] Still Life Compositions
Get a 25 sheet box of 4x5 film...mount a pinhole in it. Double sided tape a sheet of paper/film inside... expose. It's really fun. I end up using a .016 hole (I cheat..I drill sand using a #80 drill from a good hobby shop). happy new year andy -Original Message- From: pinhole-discussion-admin@p at ??? [mailto:pinhole-discussion-admin@p at ???]On Behalf Of Michael Healy Sent: Sunday, December 29, 2002 8:03 PM To: pinhole-discussion@p at ??? Subject: Re: [pinhole-discussion] Still Life Compositions Sounds fantastic! Yesterday I got an idea while I was experimenting w/ the 360 mm pinhole on 4x5. If I held a polaroid at a certain distance that reproduced the scale of the actual scene, then I figured I'd know how to frame a shot w/o a polaroid. Next I tried it with a polaroid shot w/ the 50 mm. I couldn't do it, though. As soon as I started holding it close enough, my ^#%@ nose kept getting in the way. I wish I could get my camera could go down to 25 mm. Mark, if you want to trade... Personally, I think tabletop could get pretty interesting. What you want, though, is an empty airline hangar for a backdrop... Mike - Original Message - From: erick...@hickorytech.net To: pinhole-discussion@p at ??? Sent: Sunday, December 29, 2002 4:04 PM Subject: Re: [pinhole-discussion] Still Life Compositions I'll defend a 1 Fl on 4x5. The first camera I ever built had 0.75 Fl and I've had great fun with it. It has a wonderfully wide acceptance angle and makes a nice round image on 4x5 film. Placed 0.75 inches away from the object it gives a life size image. - Original Message - From: Michael Healy mjhe...@kcnet.com To: pinhole-discussion@p at ??? Sent: Saturday, December 28, 2002 10:23 PM Subject: Re: [pinhole-discussion] Still Life Compositions I need to ask you a dumb question. You are able to get 25 mm of focal length on 4x5? What equipment are you employing, that you can do this? That's a separation of 1 lousy inch from pinhole to film plane, isn't it? I'd love to try that myself. My monorail and bag bellows **AND** recessed lens board allow me a fat, gross, long-length 50 mm. What is your trick? Okay, another dumb question. With that kind of coverage on tabletop, it kind of seems like you're going to get the doorway behind you in the image, plus six miles down the length of the hallway, to say nothing of your own entire carcass. So I'm kind of wondering, why are you working with 25 mm? That it distorts, would be one good reason. But you'll get distortion with 40-60 mm, won't you? Do you have to stick to 25 mm? If I didn't like it that I was getting so much into the frame, that probably would be my first point of reassessment. Give yourself some bellows. I mean, unless you can position your camera so it's a quarter of an inch from your subject matter. I tried that recently w/ table top myself. The camera actually cast a shadow onto my subject. Impossible. Mike Healy - Original Message - From: Mark Andrews mandr...@dragonbones.com To: pinhole-discussion@p at ??? Sent: Saturday, December 28, 2002 6:47 PM Subject: [pinhole-discussion] Still Life Compositions I am novice pinhole photographer looking for some advice regarding shooting still life compositions with my 4X5 Pinhole Camera (25mm focal length). My issue is that I am trying to limit the elements in my composition, but tend to pick up a significant amount of the surrounding area no mater how close I am to the still life composition. Is it possible to limit the surrounding area? I've seen other pinhole still lifes with a limited composition--perhaps this was accomplished in the darkroom? Many thanks in advance for any advice you can offer. ___ Post to the list as PLAIN TEXT only - no HTML Pinhole-Discussion mailing list Pinhole-Discussion@p at ??? unsubscribe or change your account at http://www.???/discussion/ ___ Post to the list as PLAIN TEXT only - no HTML Pinhole-Discussion mailing list Pinhole-Discussion@p at ??? unsubscribe or change your account at http://www.???/discussion/ ___ Post to the list as PLAIN TEXT only - no HTML Pinhole-Discussion mailing list Pinhole-Discussion@p at ??? unsubscribe or change your account at http://www.???/discussion/ ___ Post to the list as PLAIN TEXT only - no HTML Pinhole-Discussion mailing list Pinhole-Discussion@p at ??? unsubscribe or change your account at http://www.???/discussion/
RE: [pinhole-discussion] swizzle stick image
sure... Hi all A pinhole friend of mine (who is not on the list) showed me a great pinhole-like portrait that one of his students made recently using an imageing device made with drinking straws. The image is on the web at: http://www.rit.edu/~photo/IFS/index-pages/IFS-55.html if you are intersted. Cheers, Tim andy -Original Message- From: pinhole-discussion-admin@p at ??? [mailto:pinhole-discussion-admin@p at ???]On Behalf Of pinholeren...@netscape.net Sent: Tuesday, December 24, 2002 4:47 PM To: pinhole-discussion@p at ??? Subject: [pinhole-discussion] swizzel stick image could you please give me the url of that swizzle stick portrait . thanks chip __
RE: [pinhole-discussion] black dust
Is the original negative 20x24? If not, why not have the negative scanned in by a lab? or make a smaller print, say 8x10, scan that at 1200 or 2400 dpi, then work on it in PS. regards andy -Original Message- From: pinhole-discussion-admin@p at ??? [mailto:pinhole-discussion-admin@p at ???]On Behalf Of CRABBE Heidi S Sent: Wednesday, December 18, 2002 7:32 AM To: pinhole-discussion@p at ??? Subject: RE: [pinhole-discussion] black dust Could scan it in sections and stick it together in photoshop? Bit more work but does the job! Heidi -Original Message- From: Eric Hinders [mailto:hinderse...@yahoo.com] Sent: 17 December 2002 15:48 To: pinhole-discussion@p at ??? Subject: Re: [pinhole-discussion] black dust Yes, its hard to tell with out looking at the print, but from my experience the most easy (not always the cheapest) way to spot a picture would be to scan it and retouch it in photoshop. the only problem is finding a scanner big enough for your print. But most larger printing studios have them. Catherine Just blue_medic...@yahoo.com wrote: Hi, I made a 20x24 black and white photograph of a pinhole image for myself and one for my boyfriend as a gift. I had the print made at a lab and there is a line of black dust that is really noticable as it is really close to the middle of the print. I know this is due to my pinhole camera not being clean when I took the shot. But is there a way to do something like spot toning only to whiten it up?? I don't really know if I will give him the print if I can't lighten that up, or cover it up completely. Thanks for your help, Catherine = Catherine Just Photography Weddings~Portraits~Fine Art http://www.catherinejust.com 619.294.3195 Don't just state your intent, Live it. ~Jerry Seiner Jr. __ Do you Yahoo!? Yahoo! Mail Plus - Powerful. Afford! able. Sign up now. http://mailplus.yahoo.com ___ Post to the list as PLAIN TEXT only - no HTML Pinhole-Discussion mailing list Pinhole-Discussion@p at ??? unsubscribe or change your account at http://www.???/discussion/ Do you Yahoo!? Yahoo! Mail Plus - Powerful. Affordable. Sign up now ___ Post to the list as PLAIN TEXT only - no HTML Pinhole-Discussion mailing list Pinhole-Discussion@p at ??? unsubscribe or change your account at http://www.???/discussion/
RE: [pinhole-discussion] I am so not done wondering!!!!
is not!! 8*D andy -Original Message- From: pinhole-discussion-admin@p at ??? [mailto:pinhole-discussion-admin@p at ???]On Behalf Of pinholeren...@netscape.net Sent: Tuesday, December 10, 2002 7:04 PM To: pinhole-discussion@p at ??? Subject: RE: [pinhole-discussion] I am so not done wondering Lisa Reddig l...@julianrichards.com wrote: Sorry, Sorry, Sorry You know how it is. Sometimes you just get caught up in the moment and you lose your head and spout off on something everyone has talked about a bazzilion times. It was just my turn this time to join in. I apologize to all those who just hate getting tons of emails they have to delete. And may I get on my soapbox again and say every time there is a discussion about scanners/printers/photoshop/zoneplates/precise measurements of pinholes/reciprocity failure/holga's/diana's/where to buy a camera/and other very pinhole related things that I care nothing about, my delete button gets really tired. We all should just stick our tongues out and say my mommy's better than your mommy. The end Lisa my pinholes cooler than yours cool ___ Post to the list as PLAIN TEXT only - no HTML Pinhole-Discussion mailing list Pinhole-Discussion@p at ??? unsubscribe or change your account at http://www.???/discussion/ __ The NEW Netscape 7.0 browser is now available. Upgrade now! http://channels.netscape.com/ns/browsers/download.jsp Get your own FREE, personal Netscape Mail account today at http://webmail.netscape.com/ ___ Post to the list as PLAIN TEXT only - no HTML Pinhole-Discussion mailing list Pinhole-Discussion@p at ??? unsubscribe or change your account at http://www.???/discussion/
[pinhole-discussion] digital wonderings
gee this sounds like the discussions when wet plate came out... or color film... so please repeat after me... It's only a tool... no better, no worse... just a tool thank you Aren't we lucky we have so many different tools so we can all make our individual art? regards Andy Schmitt Computerist, Photographer, Slayer of Dragons All opinions expressed are mine... Unless otherwise stated or REALLY stupid www.aandy.org - not non-profit on purpose Head of Photography, Peters Valley Craft Center
RE: [pinhole-discussion] Re:About Casado Pinhole
well put sir! andy -Original Message- From: pinhole-discussion-admin@p at ??? [mailto:pinhole-discussion-admin@p at ???]On Behalf Of George L Smyth Sent: Monday, December 09, 2002 6:02 PM To: pinhole-discussion@p at ??? Subject: Re: [pinhole-discussion] Re:About Casado Pinhole --- John D. esq j...@johndesq.com wrote: [clip] Therefore I do think it is not fair to say it mildly, complaining about a Java prompt-box which caused confusion at an unnamed person in this group. This can happen, for some newbies only a URL can cause problems. Having said this, a kind E-mail to Joaquin could have solved all problems. I do not see what Yahoo has to do with it! As a Webmaster himself, he should know. It is not comme il faut to denigrate this product (without even seeing any Images) and criticize another Webmaster's work in public. I'm not sure what Yahoo has to do with it either(?). As the unnamed person to whom you refer, I will respond. I would have sent Joaquin an email, but there was no link to do so. I still do not know how to contact him through the website. Oftentimes people here post URLs to sites that they have created and images they are newly offering. The comments here are constructive and helpful. When giving opinions, some of us want to help the individual display their offerings in the best possible light, thus the comments about the site design. When I feel that one could better show what they have to offer, I present my opinion. A person with the greatest images in the world with an unusable website will disappoint, and be disappointed. I offered to the site designer an opinion that a link that takes one to a confusing JavaScript (not Java) prompt, as opposed to a page with the link's description, would yield lost sales. The designer of the camera is not being well server by the designer of the site. Certainly, this is information that Joaquin would like to have, as it would be unfortunate to have such an interesting design not be successful due to a failure by a Webmaster. Joaquin did indeed contact me (thanks Joaquin), so I was able to get some information from him. However, my feeling is that people find it helpful to receive feedback on all aspects of their presentation. For those photographers out there who are working on their own websites, they can only be commended for their efforts, and thanked for sharing their vision. For those camera designers who are depending upon someone else to present their wares to the world, I have a much hasher view when I see that their webmaster's design is more about their design, and less about the camera's design. Cheers - george
RE: [pinhole-discussion] Both Casado Cameras can also seen here
nice job John...nice site as well.. good luck with the venture andy -Original Message- From: pinhole-discussion-admin@p at ??? [mailto:pinhole-discussion-admin@p at ???]On Behalf Of John D. esq Sent: Saturday, December 07, 2002 5:28 PM To: pinhole-discussion@p at ??? Subject: [pinhole-discussion] Both Casado Cameras can also seen here Detailed views of the Hal camera: http://www.johndesq.com/dpr/hal Detailed views of the Curva 120 http://www.johndesq.com/dpr/casado Detailed views of the PTG camera: http://www.johndesq.com/dpr/ptg Regards, John D. esq __ ___ Post to the list as PLAIN TEXT only - no HTML Pinhole-Discussion mailing list Pinhole-Discussion@p at ??? unsubscribe or change your account at http://www.???/discussion/
RE: [pinhole-discussion] CAN ANYONE SUGGEST A WAX OR MINERAL OIL
gee, you just want to take all the fun out of it... 8o) andy -Original Message- From: pinhole-discussion-admin@p at ??? [mailto:pinhole-discussion-admin@p at ???]On Behalf Of bendur...@aol.com Sent: Thursday, November 21, 2002 7:44 AM To: pinhole-discussion@p at ??? Subject: [pinhole-discussion] CAN ANYONE SUGGEST A WAX OR MINERAL OIL Hello Can anyone suggest a wax or mineral oil, for waxing inkjet paper or paer negatives for contact printing. anything really that won't be greasy or smelly or go on fire Cheers ___ Post to the list as PLAIN TEXT only - no HTML Pinhole-Discussion mailing list Pinhole-Discussion@p at ??? unsubscribe or change your account at http://www.???/discussion/
RE: [pinhole-discussion] Polaroid Negatives
Antonio Hypo Clearing Agent is the Kodak brand of Permawash... Its what you use to remove fixer shorten wash times. andy ... If you are using Polaroid Type 55 film(BW) , you can do a couple of things, if you overexpose by one stop , you will get a lighter print, but get a bit more dense negative . If you are in the field , you can put the neg into a zip lock baggie filled with water, and clear the negative with Hypo Clear once you get home . I was thinking in trying type 55, but I was going to the sodium sulfite. What exactly is the Hypo Clear?? Thanks António Vieira http://www.livinginabox.net http://www.???/discussion/ _
RE: [pinhole-discussion] ciba/ilfochrome speed ratings
Drew I used it once when Nancy Ori was teaching a Cibachrome class for me @ Peters Valley. It seems to have an EI of about 6 but requires some odd filtration to get the colors right. Expensive but really fun... I'm looking forward to seeing your results. andy funny but with my spell checker, the suggested word for Cibachrome is Coachwoman.. hmmm -Original Message- From: pinhole-discussion-admin@p at ??? [mailto:pinhole-discussion-admin@p at ???]On Behalf Of James Kellar Sent: Thursday, November 14, 2002 12:05 AM To: pinhole-discussion@p at ??? Subject: Re: [pinhole-discussion] ciba/ilfochrome speed ratings Drew, I can't answer your question personally, I know that Willy Ann Wright has used Ciba in the past. I don't believe that she is on the list, but if you do a search for her you will find her email address. She is real nice and I'm sure could answer any question you might have. James On Wednesday, November 13, 2002, at 10:19 PM, drew wrote: I plan on making a simple 8x10 single sheet ciba camera this week. I've searched high and low (including the archives) and have found almost nothing that states the EI of ilfochrome... It seems a popular enough pinhole medium to shoot on so im puzzled by the lack of info. I have seen some references to EI 1 through about EI 100. I don't fear the experimentation but even with home processing @ about 5 minutes a pop it is time consuming and I of course want to spend as much time in the light as possible. Anyone with ballparks based in actual pinhole exposures? Thanks in advance -drew
RE: [pinhole-discussion] recent zoneplate image posted.
I wouldn't sell it...you seem to have found an eye for it. Wonderful picture... Say, We New Jersey'ers should have a get together...hey we could even let the people from Pensey in but I don't know about the New Yorkers... 8o) I bet we could even use Karens house...she's next to Princeton which is pretty much central Jersey... andy -Original Message- From: pinhole-discussion-admin@p at ??? [mailto:pinhole-discussion-admin@p at ???]On Behalf Of pinholeren...@netscape.net Sent: Wednesday, November 13, 2002 10:09 PM To: pinhole-discussion@p at ??? Subject: [pinhole-discussion] recent zoneplate image posted. I just posted an image taken last week of an old , soon to be abandoned swiming pool in new jersey.I was real happy with the colors wanted feedback . It was taken with a Finney using kodak 160 asa print film 120mm.I was thinking of selling the camera however I may change my mind if I can get more results like this.here is the link http://www.???/discussion/upload/gallery2002.php?cmd=maxstar t=pic=chiprenner.jpg thanks chip renner
[pinhole-discussion] Ebay - POLAROID 665 SERIES FILM BACK FOR PROJECT CAM
http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItemitem=1396702237rd=1 currently @ $16 goes off 7:30pm EST (Not Mine) andy
RE: [pinhole-discussion] russian camera?
never heard of them ...but boy...who would think the KGB had an artistic side... 8o) andy -Original Message- From: pinhole-discussion-admin@p at ??? [mailto:pinhole-discussion-admin@p at ???]On Behalf Of Peter Wiklund Sent: Tuesday, November 12, 2002 5:47 AM To: 'pinhole-discussion@p at ???' Subject: [pinhole-discussion] russian camera? Hi, anyone who knows what this is? http://www.lpfoto.se/swe/auktioner/gamla_auktioner/auktionx17/img/big/0441.g if or this: http://www.lpfoto.se/swe/auktioner/gamla_auktioner/auktionx17/img/big/0442.g if The cameras are to be sold at an auction in Stockholm, Sweden Dec 8th. The texts for the cameras are: KGB Key Ring Camera. USSR. Chrome. Pinhole camera for 4 exposures on special film. Origin: According to information received produced between 1987 and 1990 at the KGB school in Kiev. Start price for the first on is 1900 SEK (appr 210 USD) and for the second one 2200 SEK (appr 240 USD). Quite a lot, I think. More information on the company and auctions: http://www.lpfoto.se/eng/auktioner/auktion_aktuella_sp.asp /peter ___ Post to the list as PLAIN TEXT only - no HTML Pinhole-Discussion mailing list Pinhole-Discussion@p at ??? unsubscribe or change your account at http://www.???/discussion/
RE: [pinhole-discussion] new member
The only problem with transparency film is it has much less latitude, less tolerance for variation in exposure. andy -Original Message- From: pinhole-discussion-admin@p at ??? [mailto:pinhole-discussion-admin@p at ???]On Behalf Of Pettit, Ronnie (RBI-US RCD) Sent: Thursday, November 07, 2002 1:05 PM To: pinhole-discussion@p at ??? Subject: [pinhole-discussion] new member I have been a lurker on this list for a few months and have enjoyed the vast amount of knowledge I have been able to glean from cyberspace. I have been a fan of pinhole photography since my college days where I studied under Wiley Sanderson, Mary Ruth Moore and Dr Robert Nix at the University of Georgia...Bid deal, I know... I have a 4x5 multi focal length and a 8x10 that I don't currently us due to not having a darkroom at the moment...I now typically use a body cap pinhole on my old 35 mm. My question to the group is...Does anyone use transparency film for pinhole use and if so, what problems might be associated with that in contrast to the typical negative film? I ask this because I have seen that the Ilfochrome or Cibachrome is such the standard for the highest quality color printing. Any thoughts comments or contusions? Thanks Ronnie Pettit ___ Post to the list as PLAIN TEXT only - no HTML Pinhole-Discussion mailing list Pinhole-Discussion@p at ??? unsubscribe or change your account at http://www.???/discussion/
RE: [pinhole-discussion] large format ortho
Hi Gordon How long does the effect last? Can I flash a bunch of film or do I have to do it pretty much just before I use it sort of like a wet plate? thanks andy -Original Message- From: pinhole-discussion-admin@p at ??? [mailto:pinhole-discussion-admin@p at ???]On Behalf Of Gordon J. Holtslander Sent: Monday, November 04, 2002 11:16 AM To: pinhole-discussion@p at ??? Subject: Re: [pinhole-discussion] large format ortho Hi: By providing a longer range and shorter exposure times, preflashing the film allows ortho to record shadow details much more effecctively. I use an enlarger, and an exposure timer to do this. Its just about the only thing I use an enlarger for now :) I set the enlarger so that it will expose an area larger than the film I use. I stop it down. To determine the flash duration I did a series of test exposures until I found the longest exposure that would NOT fog the film once it was developed. With my setup and developer its around 12 seconds. If you don't have an enlarger you may be able to do something like turn on a very dim light - a 7 watt nightlight or something like that for a few seconds. You essentially have to be able to illuminate the film under a very low light level for an accurate amount of time. The amount of time is determined by finding the longest exposure the film can tolerate without fogging. If you don't have a really accurate timer, you would have to use a dimmer light source and expose it longer. I could probably get away without using my timer, and use my wrist watch, or count to 10 etc. (all of this can be done under safelight) The film acts like it has a threshold of exposure. No latent image will be formed until the exposure level has surpassed this theshold. For pinhole this means that while taking the picture, some time is spent simply getting past the threshold without recording any image information. If this theshold is surpassed prior to exposure (by pre-flashing) the exposure times will be shorter - resulting in a faster film. ...snip
RE: [pinhole-discussion] Film for sale, etc.
thanks I've been using Arista... (cheap) have a great day andy -Original Message- From: pinhole-discussion-admin@p at ??? [mailto:pinhole-discussion-admin@p at ???]On Behalf Of Colin Talcroft Sent: Sunday, October 20, 2002 1:42 PM To: pinhole-discussion@p at ??? Subject: RE: [pinhole-discussion] Film for sale, etc. Apologies, that was dumb of me. The film is 8x10. I think the list price is about $65. Colin ctalcr...@yahoo.com __ Do you Yahoo!? Y! Web Hosting - Let the expert host your web site http://webhosting.yahoo.com/ ___ Post to the list as PLAIN TEXT only - no HTML Pinhole-Discussion mailing list Pinhole-Discussion@p at ??? unsubscribe or change your account at http://www.???/discussion/
RE: [pinhole-discussion] Film for sale, etc.
Colin... film sounds interesting but just 1 question... size of film? 8o) (btw if it's 11x14, please mark it sold) thanks andy (Sorry but I don't have Collins email address...) -Original Message- From: pinhole-discussion-admin@p at ??? [mailto:pinhole-discussion-admin@p at ???]On Behalf Of Colin Talcroft Sent: Sunday, October 20, 2002 12:18 PM To: pinhole-discussion@p at ??? Subject: [pinhole-discussion] Film for sale, etc. Hi list, Finally about to get started building a new darkroom and need to raise some cash. Thought someone here might be interested. I have one 25-sheet box of Tri-X film I'd like to sell. It's factory sealed and been properly stored (expires December 2003). I'd like to get $55 for it, buyer pays postage (is it safe to mail in ordinary mail, I wonder?). Also, I have a nice Meade 4 telescope with tripod for sale. If interested in either, contact me off list. Sorry this is off topic, but thought a pinholer might be able to use the film. (Both items are in northern California). Colin P.S. Also slightly off-topic, but I think there was a discussion here not too long ago about digital printing. Just wanted to say that yesterday I saw actual prints done using the Piezography system (BW) and the Lightjet system (color) for the first time. They are simply beautiful. First thing tomorrow morning I am making an appointment with the local company doing the work. I want to learn all about it. __ Do you Yahoo!? Y! Web Hosting - Let the expert host your web site http://webhosting.yahoo.com/ ___ Post to the list as PLAIN TEXT only - no HTML Pinhole-Discussion mailing list Pinhole-Discussion@p at ??? unsubscribe or change your account at http://www.???/discussion/
[pinhole-discussion] ebay - KODAK PROFESSIONAL POLYC III 40IN X 100FT N
http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItemitem=1390965748 so you want to make a mural huh? Well here's your chance... (not mine) have a great weekend andy
RE: [pinhole-discussion] Polaroid Pack Film Mechanics?
I believe the 553 fits a 550 back. They show up on ebay frequently are WONDERFUL. I like them much more than the single sheet backs the film is about 1/2 the price of single sheets. I picked up a couple of them so I can load several type of film...still cheaper than single sheet... You might find one used at a photo shop. There was a rumor last winter about the demise of the 550 style of film but my Polaroid rep has assured me it is false... for what thats worth... enjoy andy -Original Message- From: pinhole-discussion-admin@p at ??? [mailto:pinhole-discussion-admin@p at ???]On Behalf Of Philip willarney Sent: Thursday, October 03, 2002 1:58 AM To: pinhole-discussion@p at ??? Subject: Re: [pinhole-discussion] Polaroid Pack Film Mechanics? --- michael_georg...@trendmicro.com wrote: ..snip.. So, here I am with many, many boxes of Polaroid 553, Polapan ASA100 4x5 pack film, and no way to use it (yet). I can build a camera out of any damn thing, but a homemade Polaroid back presents a bit more of a challenge. ..snip.. I'm not clear on what you've got: * 4x5 polaroid single sheet film (where each film is in a separate light tight paper sleeve)-- I think you could fake a back with this type: you dummy up a back where you slide the sheet in, the catch catches on something inside so you can (partly) pull the paper sleeve out, take your exposure, slide the paper sleeve back in, release the catch, pull the whole thing out, and use a rolling pin from the fat end to spread out the chemicals. I got a back to do this for $40 at the last camera show I went to. * 4x5 pack film -- I didn't know they made pack film in this size, but they apparently do! This looks like it would be harder to fabricate -- the pack itself does most of the work (keeping negative positive separate, bringing them together as you pull the tabs out though the rollers) -- but the rollers need to be hard, clean, and pretty precise (right size, right spacing, right tension) to work well, and the places where the tabs pop out would take some thought to dummy up. Some of the cheapie polaroids used spreader bars rather than rollers, and this might be easier to fabricate -- basically it's two smooth slabs of metal held almost, but not quite, together with a heavy spring. The film is pulled through the bars and they pop the chemical pod and spread it out... -- Philip __ Do You Yahoo!? Yahoo! Autos - Get free new car price quotes http://autos.yahoo.com ___ Post to the list as PLAIN TEXT only - no HTML Pinhole-Discussion mailing list Pinhole-Discussion@p at ??? unsubscribe or change your account at http://www.???/discussion/
[pinhole-discussion] GREGG...I think someones spoofing your address.... Careful about opening Subject: Re: WPPD in Sweden - FYIO
I don't have your direct email address so I couldn't send it just to you.. I'm really happy my ISP does this... andy -Original Message- From: Gregg Kemp [mailto:gregg.k...@swipnet.se] Sent: Thursday, October 03, 2002 4:33 AM Subject: Re: WPPD in Sweden - FYIO This message has been processed by Brightmail(TM) Anti-Virus using Symantec's Norton AntiVirus Technology. readme.exe was infected with the malicious virus W32.Bugbear@mm and has been deleted because the file cannot be cleaned. For more information on anti-virus tips and technology, visit http://www.brightmail.com/antivirus .
[pinhole-discussion] Ebay - basis for an 8x10 enlarger (W/ Polaroid back)
KENRO 8x10 Camera POLAROID Processor http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItemitem=1382821000 so far about $50USD...NOT MINE...FYI Only comes w/ Polaroid back processor as well andy
RE: [pinhole-discussion] Kodak Ultraline Film
try www.kpgraphics.com andy -Original Message- From: pinhole-discussion-admin@p at ??? [mailto:pinhole-discussion-admin@p at ???]On Behalf Of Hennie Koenen Sent: Monday, September 09, 2002 12:12 PM To: pinhole-discussion@p at ??? Subject: [pinhole-discussion] Kodak Ultraline Film Hello all, From a friend I have received two boxes with Kodak Ultraline Film, 24x30 cm. One box is UTD7, the other UP7. Who has ever worked with these films, and can tell me what kind of film is it. I cannot find all the info on Kodak's web-site. It seems to be a very slow reversal film. Are they usefull in pinhole photography, or are they too slow? Regards Hennie Koenen
RE: [pinhole-discussion] Images in show
CONGRATS!!! (it's certainly cool sir!) andy -Original Message- From: pinhole-discussion-admin@p at ??? [mailto:pinhole-discussion-admin@p at ???]On Behalf Of James Kellar Sent: Wednesday, September 04, 2002 8:07 PM To: Pinhole Disscussion Group Subject: [pinhole-discussion] Images in show I just got word that I had 2 images accepted in a show at the Swope Art Museum in Terre Haute Indiana. I guess the only bad thing is that while I entered 3 images, 1 a pinhole and the other 2 were holga's. The pinhole did not get excepted. I know it's not to cool to announce this on the pinhole list, but I'm excited and this is a pretty important show for southern Indiana. If you want to see the two images go to http://www.jameskellar.com/print1.jpg and http://www.jameskellar.com/print2.jpg. The pinhole that didn't make it is, http://www.jameskellar.com/print3.jpg. Thanks for letting me brag. James James Kellar Co-manager of the Pinhole Discussion List pinh...@jameskellar.com ___ Post to the list as PLAIN TEXT only - no HTML Pinhole-Discussion mailing list Pinhole-Discussion@p at ??? unsubscribe or change your account at http://www.???/discussion/
RE: [pinhole-discussion] cyanotypes using paper negatives
Kodak Dental Film, X-Omat 2, Duplicating 8X10 Item # 1376454421 http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItemitem=1376454421rd=1 Is this what you are using? There is some on Ebay... andy -Original Message- From: pinhole-discussion-admin@p at ??? [mailto:pinhole-discussion-admin@p at ???]On Behalf Of Tim Rawling Sent: Wednesday, August 28, 2002 7:17 PM To: pinhole-discussion@p at ??? Subject: Re: [pinhole-discussion] cyanotypes using paper negatives Hi A friend of mine makes gum, cyanotype and van dyke brown prints with paper negatives by peeling the paper backing off the resin coating. The image attaches to the resin and it very thin. You then need to use a frame to hold it flat during exposure but the exposure times are very reasonable and the prints are beautiful. He also has a mate that works in a hospital who gets him boxes of out of date X-ray duplication film. This stuff is great because you can enlarge 35mm negatives onto 8x10 sheets of this film and end up with large negatives for contact printing. Cheers, Tim From: Gordon J. Holtslander hol...@duke.usask.ca Reply-To: pinhole-discussion@p at ??? To: pinhole-discussion@p at ??? Subject: Re: [pinhole-discussion] cyanotypes using paper negatives Date: Tue, 27 Aug 2002 20:00:41 -0600 (CST) Hi: you can make cyanotypes from a paper negative. It just takes a long time. A friend of mine has done this - he needed to expose these for three hours in the sun. You could try waxing the paper negatives to make them more transparent. People have had success using melted parafin wax. Gord On Tue, 27 Aug 2002 bendur...@aol.com wrote: Hello I am about to start printing cyanotypes, I want to use 5x4 ortho film which I don't think will be a problem, but I'd also like to use paper negs made in a pinhole camera I made the paper negs are about 76cmx90cm can I make a cyanotypes print under glass or perspex just by treating larger paper, and exposing it under sunlight, or would that cause a problem. I use ilford VC paper. could anyone illuminate me. Cheers Ben ___ Post to the list as PLAIN TEXT only - no HTML Pinhole-Discussion mailing list Pinhole-Discussion@p at ??? unsubscribe or change your account at http://www.???/discussion/ - Gordon J. Holtslander Dept. of Biology hol...@duke.usask.ca 112 Science Place http://duke.usask.ca/~holtsg University of Saskatchewan Tel (306) 966-4433 Saskatoon, Saskatchewan Fax (306) 966-4461 Canada S7N 5E2 - ___ Post to the list as PLAIN TEXT only - no HTML Pinhole-Discussion mailing list Pinhole-Discussion@p at ??? unsubscribe or change your account at http://www.???/discussion/ _ Join the worlds largest e-mail service with MSN Hotmail. http://www.hotmail.com ___ Post to the list as PLAIN TEXT only - no HTML Pinhole-Discussion mailing list Pinhole-Discussion@p at ??? unsubscribe or change your account at http://www.???/discussion/
RE: [pinhole-discussion] Pinhole mounted in bodycap on EOS cameras
The aperture priority setting meters just fine...up to the amount of time the shutter can automatically remain open.. andy -Original Message- From: pinhole-discussion-admin@p at ??? [mailto:pinhole-discussion-admin@p at ???]On Behalf Of G.Penate Sent: Friday, August 16, 2002 11:15 PM To: pinhole-discussion@p at ??? Subject: Re: [pinhole-discussion] Pinhole mounted in bodycap on EOS cameras - Original Message - From: Rune Tallaksen tall...@alfanett.no How do I measure the distance from the filmplane til the pinhole? Here is what I did to measure the same in my Nikon camera, before I got hold of the Nikon specs: Make a hole 1/2 or so in the center of your bodycao, mount that bodycap on the camera'd body, set the camera for the maximum exposure time it allows (30 secs in my case), press the shutter, take a cotton swab and insert it thru the bodycap hole until it touches the film plane, make a mark on the cotton swab at the height where the pinhole would be installed, remove cotton swab and measure the distance with a rule. Children, don't try that at home!! Nikon cameras have a distance of 46.5mm from the film plane to the lens flange, Canon EOS have a distance of 44mm. What will the optimal pinholediameter be? It depends which formula you use. anywhere from 0.009 to 0.010 would be fine for an optimum pinhole, if that is what you want. Will my built in exposure be able to measure the light and set a correct exposure? It should, under bright light with relatively fast film. It really depend on the EV sensitivity of the EOS meter system. What else should I think of? Stop thinking, do it and try it, it works!! Guillermo ___ Post to the list as PLAIN TEXT only - no HTML Pinhole-Discussion mailing list Pinhole-Discussion@p at ??? unsubscribe or change your account at http://www.???/discussion/
RE: [pinhole-discussion] nail hole camera
You are painting the inside of the tube to reduce/eliminate internal reflections as well as making it light tight... andy -Original Message- From: pinhole-discussion-admin@p at ??? [mailto:pinhole-discussion-admin@p at ???]On Behalf Of Christian Harkness Sent: Monday, July 29, 2002 7:55 AM To: pinhole-discussion@p at ??? Subject: [pinhole-discussion] nail hole camera I would think that painting the outside of the tube [if required] would work just fine, n'est pas? I would run a quick exposure test before messing with the paint. A 20 foot tube? A pretty long exposure?! chris Join 18 million Eudora users by signing up for a free Eudora Web-Mail account at http://www.eudoramail.com ___ Post to the list as PLAIN TEXT only - no HTML Pinhole-Discussion mailing list Pinhole-Discussion@p at ??? unsubscribe or change your account at http://www.???/discussion/
RE: [pinhole-discussion] close up flower shots
wonderful...nice lighting too thanks andy -Original Message- From: pinhole-discussion-admin@p at ??? [mailto:pinhole-discussion-admin@p at ???]On Behalf Of Tim Rawling Sent: Thursday, July 11, 2002 7:56 AM To: pinhole-discussion@p at ??? Subject: [pinhole-discussion] close up flower shots Hi all, I just uploaded some close up pinhole images from a series that I have been working on for a little while now. If you are interested plese check them out at: http://www.???/discussion/upload/gallery2002.php?pic=timr_pin tryp.jpg (paste the two lines together if they have wrapped) Cheers, Tim R _ Send and receive Hotmail on your mobile device: http://mobile.msn.com ___ Post to the list as PLAIN TEXT only - no HTML Pinhole-Discussion mailing list Pinhole-Discussion@p at ??? unsubscribe or change your account at http://www.???/discussion/
[pinhole-discussion] Possibly a pinhole related matter...
I think we all need at least 1 of these to work at the highest skill level... 8o) http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItemitem=1364659970 (sorry, I couldn't resist..) regards Andy Schmitt AAndy LLC Computer Systems Created Perplexed Users UnPerplexed Dragons Slain,Ideas Generated Photographs Taken http://www.aandy.org Photography Head, Peters Valley Craft Center
RE: [pinhole-discussion] Sometimes I'm just stunned
nice.. obliviously the gods were in favor ... 8o) andy -Original Message- From: pinhole-discussion-admin@p at ??? [mailto:pinhole-discussion-admin@p at ???]On Behalf Of Nick Dvoracek Sent: Tuesday, July 09, 2002 12:13 PM To: Pinhole-Discussion@p at ??? Subject: [pinhole-discussion] Sometimes I'm just stunned I've often told beginners to not be too surprised if close up shots of plants don't work out, because even the slightest breeze will move flowers enough too blur them with a long pinhole exposure. Last night sitting on my back porch in the heat, wishing for a cool breeze, I realized that it actually was absolutely still. This Peace rose had been blooming it's little heart out and had some huge honkin' blossoms way out at the end of some pretty long stems. Common sense told me it would never work, but fortified by the shorter exposures available on a new wide angle (f125, 4 x 5, 2.5 inch F.L.) camera, I gave it a shot. That late in the evening it took a four minute exposure. The picture is uploaded to the discussion list gallery at http://www.???/discussion/upload/gallery2002.php?pic=dvoracek _rose.jpg I will fess up to giving it one pass at sharpening in Photoshop, but I do that with every picture I scan, pinhole or not. I still can't believe that flower held that still for that long. Nick -- -- Nick Dvoracek dvora...@uwosh.edu Director of Media Services Voice: 920-424-7363 University of Wisconsin OshkoshFax: 920-424-7324 http://idea.uwosh.edu/media_services/home.html http://idea.uwosh.edu/nick/handouts.htm ___ Post to the list as PLAIN TEXT only - no HTML Pinhole-Discussion mailing list Pinhole-Discussion@p at ??? unsubscribe or change your account at http://www.???/discussion/
RE: [pinhole-discussion] [pinhole discussion] New Lith Print
I second the motion..Great! andy -Original Message- From: pinhole-discussion-admin@p at ??? [mailto:pinhole-discussion-admin@p at ???]On Behalf Of Andrew Amundsen Sent: Tuesday, July 02, 2002 1:21 PM To: pinhole-discussion@p at ??? Subject: Re: [pinhole-discussion] [pinhole discussion] New Lith Print From: Christian Harkness chris.harkn...@eudoramail.com wrote: Hi, I just uploaded a new pinhole lith print. It's from a 35 mm negative done with a pinhole body cap. http://www.???/discussion/upload/gallery2002.php?pic=chri sharkness .jpg chris Chris, very nice shot. What kind of exposure/shutter speed are you getting using a pinhole bodycap. Film speed and lighting conditions were what this day? Andrew ___ Post to the list as PLAIN TEXT only - no HTML Pinhole-Discussion mailing list Pinhole-Discussion@p at ??? unsubscribe or change your account at http://www.???/discussion/
[pinhole-discussion] Darkroom related question...
Does anyone know how to wire up the auto focus stuff on an Omega D3? please respond to me off line.. aschm...@aandy.org thanks in advance have a great weekend all!! andy
RE: [pinhole-discussion] keeping notes; photographing at dusk
or just let it expose until dark maybe Plus develop it.. andy -Original Message- From: pinhole-discussion-admin@p at ??? [mailto:pinhole-discussion-admin@p at ???]On Behalf Of Shannon Stoney Sent: Friday, June 28, 2002 12:40 AM To: pinhole-discussion@p at ??? Subject: [pinhole-discussion] keeping notes; photographing at dusk Leonard wrote: I know, from working years in a camera store and teaching photography classes, the following: Lots and lots of picture takers talk and talk techniques to death and never making any prints. The only way to find something out is to TRY IT! In regards to reciprocity failure and development times, make a lot of negatives and TRY different combinations of times. Keep really good notes. Your memory isn't going to cut it. This way YOU'LL KNOW more than 90% of the other people out there. You'll know, you'll learn and you can put this small problem behind you forever! However, for those who love technical discussions, have fun while the rest of us make pictures. I have just started this practice of keeping notes on every exposure. I have a little black book that I keep with my camera stuff and I write down the date, the subject matter of the exposure (sort of), the subject brightness range, sometimes where I placed zone III and VII (like bottom of tree trunk=III, white cow=VII), and how many seconds or minutes I exposed it for. This really helped when I was trying to figure out the speed of HP5+ for me, and helped me close in on correct development times. One problem I ran into yesterday: I started an exposure around 6:30 pm and according to my calculations it was to be 20 minutes. When I came back 20 minutes later, the scene had changed a lot. I metered again and it was two stops darker in the shadows! So I figured a new time for that amount of light and averaged the two, which turned out to be 80 minutes. Went away and of course it got darker some more while I was gone. It was plumb thick dark when I came back. I developed that film tonight and sure enough, it was underexposed. I guess you could say the moral of the story is, don't try to make a picture when it's getting dark. But, that's when the wind dies down and leaves stop moving around. It would be nice if there was a way to figure exposure when the light is constantly changing. --shannon
RE: [pinhole-discussion] re: paper negative
confirmed...Ilford is logo free... andy -Original Message- From: pinhole-discussion-admin@p at ??? [mailto:pinhole-discussion-admin@p at ???]On Behalf Of James Sent: Saturday, June 22, 2002 7:40 PM To: pinhole-discussion@p at ??? Subject: [pinhole-discussion] re: paper negative on paper negatives: seagull oriental brand papers (confirmed with my own eyes) and forte brand (as told by company representative) do not have logos. i've heard that ilford is also logo free. ISO is between 6 and 2. i've been using film developer for about 5-10 minutes, and this reduces the contrast somewhat. you might take a took at this url, the history and how to of paper negatives, including info on william mortenson's special techniques: http://www.photography.about.com/library/weekly/aa051302a.htm -- James Luckett http://consumptive.org ___ Post to the list as PLAIN TEXT only - no HTML Pinhole-Discussion mailing list Pinhole-Discussion@p at ??? unsubscribe or change your account at http://www.???/discussion/
RE: [pinhole-discussion] Slightly Off Topic
Try having a white sheet over your head with light coming through it... It will even out some of the darkness... andy -Original Message- From: pinhole-discussion-admin@p at ??? [mailto:pinhole-discussion-admin@p at ???]On Behalf Of Joao Ribeiro Sent: Tuesday, June 18, 2002 12:37 PM To: pinhole-discussion@p at ??? Subject: Re: [pinhole-discussion] Slightly Off Topic Scanners have some sort of depth of field too. I have already made some scans from my face a few inches away and it worked great, a bit too dark that was corrected with photoshop but not exactly out of focus. The only problems with glass plate might be newton rings (I'm not sure if they happen with glass against glass) and scratching the scanner's glass, so be carefull! Cheers Joao G.Penate wrote: Scanners focus is optimized on the outer surface of the scanner's glass, placing the emulsion side face down may make a difference in the results (or not!). Guillermo -Original Message- From: pinhole-discussion-admin@p at ??? Does anyone have experience scanning glass plate negatives? Can it even be done? A friend asked me to make contact prints from some glass negs he bought at an estate sale. Since my darkroom hasn't been reassembled after the big move, I thought scanning might work (haven't tried it yet, though). I have an Epson scanner with a transparency adapter (the extra light source on top). ___ Post to the list as PLAIN TEXT only - no HTML Pinhole-Discussion mailing list Pinhole-Discussion@p at ??? unsubscribe or change your account at http://www.???/discussion/ ___ Post to the list as PLAIN TEXT only - no HTML Pinhole-Discussion mailing list Pinhole-Discussion@p at ??? unsubscribe or change your account at http://www.???/discussion/
[pinhole-discussion] Pinhole cameras are getting very expensive on EBay....
Robert Rigby 4x5 Pinhole Camera http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItemitem=1359368613 currently @ US $202.50 woof. (not mine...thought you might be interested...) andy
[pinhole-discussion] Not necessarily Pinhole but the entire artistic community....
I received this today thought it was important to forward this to the community. A number of us try to either make a living or supplement their living with our art. sorry for the intrusion andy To all artists: About a month ago a few artists were invited by Congressman Rush Holt to attend a meeting in Washington DC to discuss the unfair laws pertaining to artists and especially concerning estate taxes. If an artist dies, under the present law, his or her unsold paintings are given a value, and the estate is taxed accordingly. Before an artist's passing, however, the same work is given no value by the IRS. Also, as you know, if an artist donates a painting to a charity, the artist can only deduct the cost of the paint and paper, but the person who buys the artwork can donate it to another charity and can then legally call it all a tax-deductible expense. It is incredibly unfair! But there is hope! Artists are trying to get support for a new bill which would correct the inequities artists suffer under the present laws. The new law is being introduced by Congressman Nadler of NYC, but it is being held up from a vote in the Ways and Means Committee by Congressman (and Chairman) Bill Thomas of Bakersfield, California, who will not even let the Nadler Bill come up for a vote. It is recommended that artists write: Chairman Bill Thomas, Committee on Ways and Means, 1102 Longworth House Office Building, Washington, DC 20515.
RE: [pinhole-discussion] increased sharpness?
I've been looking for one for a while. The optical UV filters are real expensive (+100$). Does Edmunds have the optical grade UV filters at a decent price? thanks andy -Original Message- From: pinhole-discussion-admin@p at ??? [mailto:pinhole-discussion-admin@p at ???]On Behalf Of Howard Wells Sent: Saturday, June 01, 2002 10:46 AM To: pinhole-discussion@p at ??? Subject: Re: [pinhole-discussion] increased sharpness? http://www.naturfotograf.com/index2_PC.html See the link above for a suggestion that exposing pinhole with nothing but UV makes a sharper photo. I've been thinking about buying one of the appropriate filters from Edmund Scientific and trying UV pinhole this summer. Has anyone done it? Howard Wells G.Penate wrote: - Original Message - From: Jim Kosinski mer...@paintcancamera.com in the formulas used to determine the optimal pinhole diameter for a given focal distance the wavelength of green light seems to be used because it's in the center of the visible spectrum... would it be possible to get more sharpness with the same pinhole diameter by changing the color of the light? for example, what if you used a blue bulb to illuminate the subject or put a color filter over the pinhole? (assuming black white film/paper) Yes to all the ??? above. Would you really see a markedly difference in the results? Not quite sure. Guillermo ___ Post to the list as PLAIN TEXT only - no HTML Pinhole-Discussion mailing list Pinhole-Discussion@p at ??? unsubscribe or change your account at http://www.???/discussion/ ___ Post to the list as PLAIN TEXT only - no HTML Pinhole-Discussion mailing list Pinhole-Discussion@p at ??? unsubscribe or change your account at http://www.???/discussion/
RE: [pinhole-discussion] filters with pinholes
I ended up gluing a 58mm adapter ring over the PH. I can use all my (oh my gosh) lensed filters w/o getting them gooey. andy -Original Message- From: pinhole-discussion-admin@p at ??? [mailto:pinhole-discussion-admin@p at ???]On Behalf Of Shannon Stoney Sent: Thursday, May 30, 2002 6:02 PM To: pinhole-discussion@p at ??? Subject: [pinhole-discussion] filters with pinholes I am shooting the same film and the same format. I would advise filtration of Red and Yellow. How do you put a filter in front of the pinhole? With tape? --shannon ___ Post to the list as PLAIN TEXT only - no HTML Pinhole-Discussion mailing list Pinhole-Discussion@p at ??? unsubscribe or change your account at http://www.???/discussion/
RE: [pinhole-discussion] using Polaroid 545 back
I use it all the time. The Polapan 4x5 pack films are lots of fun (instant gratification all that). You get stunning negatives from the P/N. The color film is a bit trickier but some wonderful pictures are available within it. Loonngg exposures due require a bit of filtration but the shift is interesting too. just try it...you'll like it andy -Original Message- From: pinhole-discussion-admin@p at ??? [mailto:pinhole-discussion-admin@p at ???]On Behalf Of CLinT-BOb Sent: Friday, May 24, 2002 8:22 PM To: pinhole-discussion@p at ??? Subject: [pinhole-discussion] using polaroid 545 back Can someone share their experience using instant film? From what Ive seen, reciprocity can shift pinhole polaroid photos towards cyan ( polaroid also says this). I am using a leonardo 4x5 and 545 holder. Clint ___ Post to the list as PLAIN TEXT only - no HTML Pinhole-Discussion mailing list Pinhole-Discussion@p at ??? unsubscribe or change your account at http://www.???/discussion/
RE: [pinhole-discussion] used enlargers
owww am I jealous...I'm just starting down that rocky road now -Original Message- From: pinhole-discussion-admin@p at ??? [mailto:pinhole-discussion-admin@p at ???]On Behalf Of Eric S. Theise Sent: Thursday, May 23, 2002 5:48 PM To: pinhole-discussion@p at ??? Subject: Re: [pinhole-discussion] used enlargers Andy Schmitt writes: Digital is cool...until you see the image size for a good 4x5 scan.. 8o) Hey, media is (are?) cheap. And my Photoshop skills are orders of magnitude better than whatever darkroom skills I may be said to possess. --E ___ Post to the list as PLAIN TEXT only - no HTML Pinhole-Discussion mailing list Pinhole-Discussion@p at ??? unsubscribe or change your account at http://www.???/discussion/
RE: [pinhole-discussion] used enlargers
ow...(light bulb flashing) ... I see what you mean. hmmm I'll have to give that a bit of thought. I was going to try it with a cold light head slightly raised above the carrier due to my super duper custom filter carrier that I built for my DII so I could do split filter printing... Digital is cool...until you see the image size for a good 4x5 scan.. 8o) keep in touch let us know how this comes out.. andy -Original Message- From: pinhole-discussion-admin@p at ??? [mailto:pinhole-discussion-admin@p at ???]On Behalf Of Eric S. Theise Sent: Thursday, May 23, 2002 5:29 PM To: pinhole-discussion@p at ??? Subject: Re: [pinhole-discussion] used enlargers Thanks for the tip, Andy, but I think you are missing my point. Which is: the 4 x 5 enlargers I've used insist that 4 x 5 is the image as framed in a negative carrier. Once you get away from the negative carrier, and try to print the whole negative, you'll find that the diameter of the circular housing of the enlarger is too small to cover the whole sheet, and you'll end up losing the corners of the negative. At least that's been my experience on three different enlargers, and I'm keen to know if there are 4 x 5 enlargers that have a large enough head to encircle the whole 4 x 5 negative. As to a carrier, I just got two sheets of glass, had the edges smoothed out by the supplier, and hinged them with gaffers tape. That part worked fine. I was just losing my corners (and my mind). Another reason why digital is looking better and better. Thanks, Eric ___ Post to the list as PLAIN TEXT only - no HTML Pinhole-Discussion mailing list Pinhole-Discussion@p at ??? unsubscribe or change your account at http://www.???/discussion/
RE: [pinhole-discussion] used enlargers
Eric get yourself some anti-Newton glass bigger than the negative 1/4 marine plywood (no voids). Cut out the wood bigger than the negative (but smaller than the glass...) on 2 pieces. Cut the wood to fit your enlarger. I would flat black the wood after you smooth it out. If you want to be fancy you could route out the plywood so the glass is nestled inside it on each side... a hinge to keep it aligned might be a good thought too... I'm going to do one this summer so let me know how you come out... I'll do the same. have fun andy -Original Message- From: pinhole-discussion-admin@p at ??? [mailto:pinhole-discussion-admin@p at ???]On Behalf Of Eric S. Theise Sent: Thursday, May 23, 2002 4:10 PM To: pinhole-discussion@p at ??? Subject: Re: [pinhole-discussion] used enlargers D Hill writes: I'll second Len's advice on a used D2 - they may be a bit more expensive than other used enlargers but it quite possibly is the last enlarger you will ever buy. Glad to see this thread; I have an enlarger-related question that I'm sure can be answered by people on this list. I shoot 4 x 5. I like printing the whole sheet of film, that is, all the way to the edges, including where the film holder shows and the identifying notches. But on most of the enlargers I've tried, including Omegas, it's impossible to get the whole sheet. I've rigged up a glass sandwich to hold the negative, but the apparatus still manages to roundly clip off the corners. Are there any 4 x 5 enlargers that will handle the full negative or do I need to go to a larger size? Thanks in advance, Eric _
RE: [pinhole-discussion] used enlargers
This is why I asked for an approximate location Peters Valley might have a modified DII - D2 we would be willing to part with for less than Ebay prices.. 8o) andy -Original Message- From: pinhole-discussion-admin@p at ??? [mailto:pinhole-discussion-admin@p at ???]On Behalf Of I Zarkov Sent: Thursday, May 23, 2002 9:10 AM To: pinhole-discussion@p at ??? Subject: Re: [pinhole-discussion] used enlargers I agreee totally about getting an Omega D series enlarger. I've had a D2V for about 20 years now and it's still great. Just found a point source head for it and will be printing electron microscope negatives. Extremely versatile assortment of heads: cold light, condenser, color fits many needs, worth the cost. IF you want to enlarges neg to larger dimensions get the longer column. Always good to look locally if you can to avoid higher shipping costs. Save the $ and invest in a good lens. Look for a package deal as the additional parts- negative holders, lens cones, replacement condensers can get a bit pricey if bought separately. I found it cheaper to have a machine shop cut me neagive carriers than pay the photo-shop price. Good luck, Z _ Chat with friends online, try MSN Messenger: http://messenger.msn.com ___ Post to the list as PLAIN TEXT only - no HTML Pinhole-Discussion mailing list Pinhole-Discussion@p at ??? unsubscribe or change your account at http://www.???/discussion/
RE: [pinhole-discussion] film canister cameras
What size negatives do you want to do and where are you located? andy -Original Message- From: pinhole-discussion-admin@p at ??? [mailto:pinhole-discussion-admin@p at ???]On Behalf Of Shannon Stoney Sent: Wednesday, May 22, 2002 11:36 AM To: pinhole-discussion@p at ??? Subject: Re: [pinhole-discussion] film canister cameras --- Shannon Stoney shannonsto...@earthlink.net wrote: How big is the image supposed to be with the film canister cameras? I made an exposure today and it's about the size of a penny. Is that normal? Well, it will be the size of your film cannister. Of course, you can enlarge it instead of contact printing it, so you can determine its final size. Do you mean, the image diameter will be the same as the diameter of the film cannister? I am looking for a used enlarger. I looked on ebay and the good ones are going for around $400-$500. I wonder if anybody on this list has a favorite place to buy used reconditioned enlargers? --shannon Cheers - george = Handmade Photographic Images http://GLSmyth.com DRiP Investing http://DRiPInvesting.org __ Do You Yahoo!? LAUNCH - Your Yahoo! Music Experience http://launch.yahoo.com ___ Post to the list as PLAIN TEXT only - no HTML Pinhole-Discussion mailing list Pinhole-Discussion@p at ??? unsubscribe or change your account at http://www.???/discussion/ ___ Post to the list as PLAIN TEXT only - no HTML Pinhole-Discussion mailing list Pinhole-Discussion@p at ??? unsubscribe or change your account at http://www.???/discussion/
RE: [pinhole-discussion] Litho - Halftone film question
Photographers Formulary will packet them for you...pretty inexpensively if I remember correctly. andy -Original Message- From: pinhole-discussion-admin@p at ??? [mailto:pinhole-discussion-admin@p at ???]On Behalf Of Greg Newberry Sent: Monday, May 20, 2002 5:53 PM To: pinhole-discussion@p at ??? Subject: RE: [pinhole-discussion] Litho - Halftone film question Gord, Thanks so much for your information. It will help me out a lot. A couple of questions.. Safelights, same as for BW paper? 1 ASA with LC-1? I think I'd better keep some TMX 8x10 sheet film on hand just in case. The Arista and Dektol sounds like a good starting point and then try the LC-1. Do you know if anyone premixes the LC-1 dry chemicals and sells them? Also, do you know of any reciprocity charts for the sheet film or paper at 6 ASA? I use Ilford RC glossy and will be experimenting with it for the negative and contact printing it as well. Thanks Greg ___ Post to the list as PLAIN TEXT only - no HTML Pinhole-Discussion mailing list Pinhole-Discussion@p at ??? unsubscribe or change your account at http://www.???/discussion/
RE: [pinhole-discussion] developing little pieces of 35mm film
The pinhole is s small (or at least it's suppose to be..) that the surface tension of the liquid keeps it in...(really...) andy -Original Message- From: pinhole-discussion-admin@p at ??? [mailto:pinhole-discussion-admin@p at ???]On Behalf Of Shannon Stoney Sent: Monday, May 20, 2002 8:14 PM To: pinhole-discussion@p at ??? Subject: Re: [pinhole-discussion] developing little pieces of 35mm film When I shoot with film in my film cannister pinhole camera, I develop, stop, and fix within the container itself. Why now do this in the Altoids can? How do you keep it from leaking out the pinhole? Or do you use a different can --shannon Cheers - george = Handmade Photographic Images http://GLSmyth.com DRiP Investing http://DRiPInvesting.org __ Do You Yahoo!? LAUNCH - Your Yahoo! Music Experience http://launch.yahoo.com ___ Post to the list as PLAIN TEXT only - no HTML Pinhole-Discussion mailing list Pinhole-Discussion@p at ??? unsubscribe or change your account at http://www.???/discussion/ ___ Post to the list as PLAIN TEXT only - no HTML Pinhole-Discussion mailing list Pinhole-Discussion@p at ??? unsubscribe or change your account at http://www.???/discussion/
[pinhole-discussion] Shameless advertisement for Peters Valley
Leezy's 3 day class on Alternative Cameras, Aug. 23-25, is filling up. This workshop will cover everything from Pinholes to Zone Plates to Diana's. Leezy I will be bringing our respective collections of cameras for the students to try as well as experimenting with what the students bring. Both film paper will be used for negatives. so, y'all come over now...y'hear! end of shameless advertisement thanks andy
RE: [pinhole-discussion] Re: Pinhole-Discussion digest, Vol 1 #702 - 4 msgs
Hey there.. I received the following message when I tried to go there: Internal Server Error The server encountered an internal error or misconfiguration and was unable to complete your request. Please contact the server administrator, pinh...@pair.com and inform them of the time the error occurred, and anything you might have done that may have caused the error. More information about this error may be available in the server error log. Maybe I tried tooo quickly.. andy -Original Message- From: pinhole-discussion-admin@p at ??? [mailto:pinhole-discussion-admin@p at ???]On Behalf Of aaron Sent: Wednesday, May 15, 2002 1:18 AM To: pinhole-discussion@p at ??? Subject: [pinhole-discussion] Re: Pinhole-Discussion digest, Vol 1 #702 - 4 msgs hi all. some pictures are going up from a WWPD2 event at the Headlands Center in Sausalito, CA. they start at number 633. http://www.pinholeday.org/gallery/2002/index.php?id=633 the pictures were taken with cameras made from 35mm film cannisters. they were given out to visitors at one of the galleries there. /aaron ___ Post to the list as PLAIN TEXT only - no HTML Pinhole-Discussion mailing list Pinhole-Discussion@p at ??? unsubscribe or change your account at http://www.???/discussion/
RE: [pinhole-discussion] The Wyndham Montreal Pinhole Camera Project
gee I thought my 20x24 was large format photographyI bow to the masters. 8o) Great Job...CongratulationsI can't wait to see it. andy -Original Message- From: pinhole-discussion-admin@p at ??? [mailto:pinhole-discussion-admin@p at ???]On Behalf Of Guy Glorieux Sent: Tuesday, May 14, 2002 11:08 PM To: pinhole List Subject: [pinhole-discussion] The Wyndham Montreal Pinhole Camera Project Jeff, You have not missed any postings on the subject. It's jsust that I've been quite busy since April 28, working on this project and other priorities, and I have not had much time to report. In a nutshell, it's worked beyond our expectations. We have a 12 1/2 feet wide by 8 1/2 feet high pinhole image of incredible beauty, probably one of the largest ever made in modern pinhole history. Thanks to the support of Wyndham Montreal, we were able to have a 10th floor room for the WPPD weekend facing one of the most impressive landscape of Montreal, right in the centre of the cultural area. We started setting up our equipment in the room early Saturday afternoon and worked to make the room completely light tight. By midnight we had everything pretty well completed, all we had to do was to lower the 3 strips of 50 by 8 1/2 feet photographic paper (kindly supplied by Ilford Imaging Canada as a full roll of 100 feet) down the frame we had built and open the shutter, to officially start our WPPD2 experiment. We chose a 40 focal length to get as wide angle as possible on the landscape (the image covers from Place Ville Marie to Place des Arts, with the Mount Royal in the background, for anyone familiar with Montreal). We did a bit of a backswing with the frame to extend coverage of the landscape on the side of Place Ville Marie. There was some question over what diameter pinhole to use. The optimal would have been 1.34 mm giving us F/755, much to small given the overcast weather expected for April 28. In the end, I chose 1.8mm diameter, giving us F/564. This is only a few minutes exposure even on paper on a bright sunny day, but under overcast conditions and with reciprocity playing its trick, I knew that this would be relatively safe. In the end, a snow storm forced us to close the shutter around 12:45 on Sunday, earlier than we had anticipated, in order to avoid a white out of the image. While the tests strips we had placed on the extremities of the frame suggested then that we might be underexposed, the centre, by that time was quite over exposed. I guess we had forgotten that we would experience very heavy vignetting with such a short focal length (further compounded by reciprocity failure at the extremities). By Monday morning we were all packed up and leaving the hotel to move on to the next stage: the processing of the paper negative. Given the facilities we were using, we couldn't get started until late evening and we also had to build handmade processing tanks (5 x10 feet) from 2x4 lumber and heavy gauge plastic. We used 100 litters of developer and fix (way too much in retrospect) to fill the trays and unrolled each strip of 50 x 8 1/2 feet into the trays, one after the other, out into a quick stop bath and then into the fix. The negatives were then washed thoroughly and installed back to dry on same the wood frame we had used for exposure at the hotel. The result was just astounding. Imagine a 12 1/2 feet by 8 1/2 feet negative image with incredible details in every areas of the image (you can count the number of chairs on a hidden roof top sundeck of the Museum of Contemporary Arts and see pretty well inside the buildings closeby, enough to count how many chairs there are around the desks or worktables). Every details of the architecture landscape are clearly visible in the image but strangely distorted in some areas of the image through wide angle expansion and in other areas through telephoto compression. Because of the length of the time exposure (a little over 12 hrs), the whole city looks unnaturally empty from the constant agitation surrounding this area as if it had been deserted from all its inhabitants after a major disaster. Only the buildings, the trees, the sign and lamp posts and the cars parked on the street are visible with incredible details. Very daunting. The next stage for us is to do a contact print of the paper negative into a positive image. This is the trickiest part and we are still working on tests strips. We need to illuminate an area 12.5 x 8.5 feet, and there is about 7 stops density difference between the centre of the image (closest to the pinhole) and the edges. At this stage, we are working with a single lamp projector 15 feet above the print and centred just above the zone of heaviest density. I let you imagine the fun of changing contrast filtration between each tests...! The goal is to avoid having to do any burning and dodging by carefully configuring the way the light spreads over the image and to make 11x14 tests strips
RE: [pinhole-discussion] New images to share
Michael Lately, I've been doing the restaurant kind of picture in diners It's kind of interesting the counterpoint you can get with a wide angle great depth of field. good job...thanks for sharing andy -Original Message- From: pinhole-discussion-admin@p at ??? [mailto:pinhole-discussion-admin@p at ???]On Behalf Of michael_georg...@trendmicro.com Sent: Sunday, May 12, 2002 10:54 PM To: pinhole-discussion@p at ??? Subject: [pinhole-discussion] New images to share A few new photos to share... Done with an old 35mm Halina viewfinder at about f/120 or so, handmade hole about .007 or so in .002 brass, Kodak Gold ASA 200, processed cheaply and locally. I'd rather have used any of these for WWPD#2, but since I didn't take them on April 28th, it wouldn'ta been right, and I am a play fair kind of guy. Not sure if the URL's will get clipped, this is the main page: http://www.???/discussion/upload/gallery2002.php http://www.???/discussion/upload/gallery2002.php?cmd=maxstar t=pic=georgoffdognose.jpg GeorgoffDogNose.JPG is the one that worked out of 9 tries. If anyone knows the breed Jack Russell Terrier, relaxing is almost genetically impossible. She was not quite ready for a Sunday, and had laid down in a sunbeam for additional snooze time. After many sniffs of me, the camera, my hand, my nose, etc, she settled back down. I had wanted to get wide angle dog nose for a while. Got it! http://www.???/discussion/upload/gallery2002.php?cmd=maxstar t=pic=georgoffbar.jpg GeorgoffBar.JPG was done waiting for some folks to show up for dinner at a restaurant. I decided to quaff a Guiness Stout, laid my change and wristwatch on the bar, and happened to have the camera with me... (By the way, a Guiness can was the material for my first pinhole, not as nice as brass, but it was handy!) http://www.???/discussion/upload/gallery2002.php?cmd=maxstar t=pic=georgoffcadinside.jpg GeorgoffCadInside.JPG is an interior shot of a 1935 Cadillac nearing the completion of a long restoration project. No, not my car! I could maybe afford a spark plug to one of these on a good day! The chrome hit just right on this one, I was between the dashboard and the steering wheel (lotta room there in 1935!). http://www.???/discussion/upload/gallery2002.php?cmd=maxstar t=pic=georgoffcadv8.jpg GeorgoffCadV8.JPG is growing on me as a real favorite. This particular 1935 was the econo-buy V8 model, and the hood, although long, was not near as long as a good wide angle pinhole will lead you to believe. The sun on the right side gave me fade pale white to diffraction which I could not have done if I had planned it. What's the word, serendipity? Yeah, I'll take it. This piece of garbage camera has given some great shots simply by virtue of it's portability: 35mm does have it's advantages!! Thanks, all. Michael Georgoff San Jose, CA ___ Post to the list as PLAIN TEXT only - no HTML Pinhole-Discussion mailing list Pinhole-Discussion@p at ??? unsubscribe or change your account at http://www.???/discussion/
RE: [pinhole-discussion] Ebay item - 12 packs Polaroid 667
Jack If I had you experiences with older Polaroid, I wouldn't have mentioned it. Yes, I've had some crap, which is evident on the 1st picture. I've come out on the winning side compared to burning through new film. BTW /never freeze Polaroid film... andy -Original Message- From: pinhole-discussion-admin@p at ??? [mailto:pinhole-discussion-admin@p at ???]On Behalf Of jack duganne Sent: Wednesday, May 08, 2002 3:02 PM To: pinhole-discussion@p at ??? Subject: Re: [pinhole-discussion] Ebay item - 12 packs Polaroid 667 A word to the prudent: I have purchased many packs of Polaroid film on e-bay and the result has been mixed. No matter how well sealed and preserved (in freezers and refrigerators) over more than half of the film is bad! The biggest problem is that the chemicals which process it, when pulled through the rollers, is dried up. Either nothing is there or only a little and as a result most of the shots are never developable. I have since stopped purchasing Polaroid 3.25x4.25 black and white and color film on bargain sites like e-bay - it is just too depressing and frustrating. Jack ___ Post to the list as PLAIN TEXT only - no HTML Pinhole-Discussion mailing list Pinhole-Discussion@p at ??? unsubscribe or change your account at http://www.???/discussion/
[pinhole-discussion] RE: an interesting way to check pinholes slits....
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[pinhole-discussion] So who is selling the handmade cameras on EBay?
ie:COMPLETE 4x5 Pinhole Camera KIT http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItemitem=1350468325 ? andy -Original Message- From: pinhole-discussion-admin@p at ??? [mailto:pinhole-discussion-admin@p at ???]On Behalf Of Mike Vande Bunt Sent: Thursday, May 09, 2002 12:40 AM To: pinhole-discussion@p at ??? Subject: Re: [pinhole-discussion] pinhole is not about sharpness? Pinhole photography is not about sharpness, it is about pinhole photography. To put it another way (perhaps more clearly, perhaps not), it is not about how sharp the photo is and it is not about how unsharp the photo is. What it IS about is what the photo looks like. Sometimes being as sharp as possible helps, sometimes being blurry helps. It is certainly true that the optimal size pinhole is a good starting point, but the photographer may need to use a different size to get the photo they want. Serendipity can be a great creative tool, but using the scientific tools that are available (such as the formulas) can work jus as well from a creative standpoint. Note that I said pinhole photography above. Pinhole camera making is not always the same thing. Often, that IS about getting the sharpest photo possible. That is more of an engineering issue than a creative one. The best answer that I can think of to the question What size pinhole should I put in my camera? is: Use the size that will produce the type of photo that you want. In other words, the answer is That depends... Mike Vande Bunt (WPPD2 #97) ___ Post to the list as PLAIN TEXT only - no HTML Pinhole-Discussion mailing list Pinhole-Discussion@p at ??? unsubscribe or change your account at http://www.???/discussion/
RE: [pinhole-discussion] yay!
nice job Rob! I understand your sediments about the injury factor. I've been working on a few ultra wide 4x5's lately woof, what I've found to do to myself is amazing... I'm looking forward to seeing some pictures from your new camera. have fun! andy -Original Message- From: pinhole-discussion-admin@p at ??? [mailto:pinhole-discussion-admin@p at ???]On Behalf Of R Duarte Sent: Monday, May 06, 2002 10:54 PM To: pinhole-discussion@p at ??? Subject: [pinhole-discussion] yay! i'm finished making my new camera... http://www.rahji.com/images/wooden_bottom.jpg http://www.rahji.com/images/wooden_front.jpg http://www.rahji.com/images/wooden_side.jpg it's made of poplar. there's a wooden frame inside to hold the film/paper in and also create a light trap. i machined all of the metal parts (except for the little knob-key things) out of aluminum. i sanded a finger tip off, blackened a fingernail on a belt sander, and burned two fingers on a hot screw that i was grinding with a cutoff wheel - this is how my last few months have been going .. everything i produce is measured in the number of injuries sustained in the process. :) rob ___ Post to the list as PLAIN TEXT only - no HTML Pinhole-Discussion mailing list Pinhole-Discussion@p at ??? unsubscribe or change your account at http://www.???/discussion/
RE: [pinhole-discussion] Film transport system for 120 film
if you are building a blat back, you can pickup old graphlok roll film adapters. These will either do 2x2 or 2x3. the ones from the 3 1/4 x 4 1/4 graphic are the least popular shouldn't be a ton of $$...Ebay always seems to have some. andy -Original Message- From: pinhole-discussion-admin@p at ??? [mailto:pinhole-discussion-admin@p at ???]On Behalf Of Maria Grant Sent: Saturday, May 04, 2002 3:48 PM To: pinhole-discussion@p at ??? Subject: [pinhole-discussion] Film transport system for 120 film Were can I buy a film transport system for 120 film? I hope I'm using the correct terminology. I've seen cameras made from coffee and tea containers with film transports,but can't seem to find this item,would I have to find a old 120 camera and use its system? Can I us the transport from a cheap plastic camera? Thanks in advance. Nathaniel Williams ___ Post to the list as PLAIN TEXT only - no HTML Pinhole-Discussion mailing list Pinhole-Discussion@p at ??? unsubscribe or change your account at http://www.???/discussion/
RE: [pinhole-discussion] Interesting 1920's pinhole at eBay
funny, I;m starting to see a few a month now. Last week there was someone selling an 8x10 a 4x5 that they made out of cherry anyone on the list? looked like a pretty camera. andy -Original Message- From: pinhole-discussion-admin@p at ??? [mailto:pinhole-discussion-admin@p at ???]On Behalf Of Andrew Amundsen Sent: Saturday, May 04, 2002 12:36 PM To: Pinhole Discussion Subject: [pinhole-discussion] Interesting 1920's pinhole at eBay Hey everyone, Here's a fascinating old pinhole camera for sale on eBay from the 1920's: http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItemitem=1350459156 Not mine, just thought you might be interested! Take care, Andrew Amundsen ___ Post to the list as PLAIN TEXT only - no HTML Pinhole-Discussion mailing list Pinhole-Discussion@p at ??? unsubscribe or change your account at http://www.???/discussion/
RE: [pinhole-discussion] Thanks to all the WPPD Contributors.
...thank you all!!! andy -Original Message- From: pinhole-discussion-admin@p at ??? [mailto:pinhole-discussion-admin@p at ???]On Behalf Of Gregg Kemp Sent: Wednesday, May 01, 2002 10:09 AM To: 'pinhole-discussion@p at ???' Subject: RE: [pinhole-discussion] Thanks to all the WPPD Contributors. Thank you James. All of us involved appreciate your kind words and the many thanks we have received in email, the exhibition guest book, and here on the discussion list. We on the coordinating team also appreciate the (unsolicited) reference to the t-shirts and other wares available. However, we decided several weeks ago not to promote these items ourselves because we did not want to turn pinhole day into a commercial event. At the same time, we wanted to make some items available to those who want them, to commemorate WPPD2. No one should feel that you need to buy any of these items to support pinhole day - that is not an issue. If you would like one of these items for your enjoyment, they are available and of good quality (based on the ones I have bought and others comments). I would like for everyone to know the finances of this. It cost us nothing to set up this service with cafepress.com. Guy Glorieux designed the white t-shirt and I designed the other items. We set the web site with the items and CafePress.com prints items as they are ordered. They seem to do a very good job, but have been a little slow to ship things in the past couple of weeks. For each item sold, we get one dollar, regardless of the item, and they get the rest. The check is sent to me and I'm keeping records of what we receive. So, we're not talking about a lot of money. But, what we receive will be used only for WPPD expenses. And so far, those expenses are very small - domain name registration, and some web server expenses. It is very unlikely we will collect more than our annual expense for the web site. We are feeling very proud of this year's event, and very excited about what we believe was a very large turnout on April 28. The photos that are coming in We can all celebrate the success of this year's pinhole day (no t-shirts required!) Thanks again to everyone who helped make this a fun day for a lot of people, and to everyone who got out there and had some fun! Gregg -Original Message- From: James Kellar [mailto:pinh...@jameskellar.com] Sent: Wednesday, May 01, 2002 8:19 AM To: Pinhole Disscussion Group Subject: [pinhole-discussion] Thanks to all the WPPD Contributors. Hi all, I hope everyone had a great WPPD. By the looks of the gallery it is going to be a great success. Last time Iooked there were over 200 great images. Remember to thank all the wonderful people who put there time, effort and money to make this work. Below you will see a list of all the folks who made this all possible. If by chance you haven't noticed you can buy WPPD T-Shirts, mugs and other great looking items that help promote and celebrate the WPPD. Also when you make a purchase you help defray some of the costs it takes to put on this advent. So if you haven't placed your order yet go to, http://www.cafepress.com/cp/store/store.aspx?storeid=wppd, and do so today. James Coordinating Team Guy Glorieux (Canada, team leader) Gregg Kemp (USA, team leader) Zernike Au (Hong Kong) Jean Daubas (France) Edward Levinson (Japan) Tom Miller (USA) Guillermo Peñate (El Salvador) Ana Maria Schultze (Brazil) Rosanne Stutts (USA) Publicity Rosanne Stutts (coordinator) Paolo Aldi (Italy) Dennis Johanson (Sweden) Marco Dreher (graphics) (Coordinating Team) Resources (Coordinating Team) Dieter Bublitz (Germany) Tom Miller (web page) George L Smyth (web page) Related EventsTom Miller (coordinator) Web Site: Gregg Kemp Language Translations:Gregg Kemp (coordinator) Chinese: Zernike Au Fei Zheng Deutsch: Dieter Bublitz Martin Adler Dutch:Wolfgang Thoma Wally Thoma-Schuermans Frans van Dijk Español: Guillermo Peñate Français: Jean-Luc Coulon Guy Glorieux Jean Daubas Italiano: Patrizia di Siro Japanese: Edward Levinson Polski: Anna Oldak Kasia Oldak Português:Guilherme Galarraga Ana Maria Schultze Members of Lata Magica Srpski: Vladimir Mikovic Slovensko:Vojko Flis Svenska: Jan Hinderson Dennis Johanson Peter Wiklund ___ Post to the list as PLAIN TEXT only - no HTML Pinhole-Discussion mailing list Pinhole-Discussion@p at ??? unsubscribe or change your account at http://www.???/discussion/ ___ Post to the list as PLAIN TEXT only - no HTML Pinhole-Discussion mailing list Pinhole-Discussion@p at ??? unsubscribe or change your account at http://www.???/discussion/
RE: [pinhole-discussion] business on list
greg...for petes sake 100 micron pinholes?? so much for hand crafted... great site! thanks and they support WPPD 2002 andy -Original Message- From: pinhole-discussion-admin@p at ??? [mailto:pinhole-discussion-admin@p at ???]On Behalf Of Greg Newberry Sent: Thursday, April 18, 2002 8:01 PM To: pinhole-discussion@p at ??? Subject: RE: [pinhole-discussion] business on list Check out www.lenoxlaser.com They have predrilled pinholes on .0005 in stainless steel, pre-mounted. Thanks greg -Original Message- From: pinhole-discussion-admin@p at ??? [mailto:pinhole-discussion-admin@p at ???]On Behalf Of Chris Peregoy Sent: Thursday, April 18, 2002 8:19 AM To: pinhole-discussion@p at ??? Subject: Re: [pinhole-discussion] business on list I'm planning a commercial camera to be released latter this summer. I was wondering where do you buy bulk quantities of laser drilled pinholes? G.Penate wrote: BTW, I don't mind commercials from list members. Like when someone is auctioning something at eBay or when Jim, tell us about a new pinhole camera he is announcing or even if Zernike were to tell us about a new product, too. I take that as information rather than as advertising. Guillermo ___ Post to the list as PLAIN TEXT only - no HTML Pinhole-Discussion mailing list Pinhole-Discussion@p at ??? unsubscribe or change your account at http://www.???/discussion/ -- -- Chris Peregoy | http://www.gl.umbc.edu/~peregoy | http://imda.umbc.edu/ ___ Post to the list as PLAIN TEXT only - no HTML Pinhole-Discussion mailing list Pinhole-Discussion@p at ??? unsubscribe or change your account at http://www.???/discussion/ ___ Post to the list as PLAIN TEXT only - no HTML Pinhole-Discussion mailing list Pinhole-Discussion@p at ??? unsubscribe or change your account at http://www.???/discussion/
RE: [pinhole-discussion] The Wyndham Montreal Hotel Giant Pinhole Camera Project
Now that sounds like fun..have a great time Guy andy -Original Message- From: pinhole-discussion-admin@p at ??? [mailto:pinhole-discussion-admin@p at ???]On Behalf Of Guy Glorieux Sent: Wednesday, April 17, 2002 7:45 AM To: pinhole List Subject: [pinhole-discussion] The Wyndham Montreal Hotel Giant Pinhole Camera Project Hi all, For those that are interested, I'll be turning a hotel room in Montreal into a giant pinhole camera on April 28. Details of the project can be found at the following URL (Zernike has offerd to build and host the web site which is still in progress): http://www.zeroimage.com/Guy/PinholeHotel.html We will be a team of four photographers. The room will be on the 6th floor, kindly offered by Wyndham Montreal Hotel, for the period from saturday noon to monday noon. This will give us lots of time to do the set-up ahead of time. The image will be printed on Ilford RC VC paper, with a yellow filter on the pinhole. We'll be working with 3 strips of 50 in. x 9 feet from a roll of 100 feet. The pinhole should be about 0.1'' diameter with a focal length of 10 feet. This works out an f-stop of F-1200. With a yellow filter and paper at ISO 3, this should work out to an exposure time of about 1.5 hrs on a sunny day. There are no reciprocity failure charts for paper, but it is just as real as for film. So I'll have to make some tests before next week but I expect to end up with an exposure time of maybe 8-12 hrs. I just hope that it'll be sunny weather outside. If it's rainny, we can either move the paper closer to the window and shorten the focal length to open up the F-stop or work with a larger pinhole diameter and get a somewhat more blurry image. The plan is to calculate the focal length/F-stop based on the weather outside so as to be able to open the shutter at 00:00hr on Sunday April 28 and to let the exposure run until 24:00hr. We'll be using RC paper and, once we have the paper negatives, we'll make a 4' x 8' contact print from each of the three 50'' x 9'. (You soak the paper negative and the unexposed paper positive, squeegee them together and do you exposure). I have not yet got around to making tests but I do not see any major difficulties here, assuming that I managed to get through the first stage of processing the paper negative. We'll be using wallpaper tanks to roll and unroll the paper in the chemistry. Washing and drying will be the tough parts. The final paper negative and positive (3 each) will be mounted on thick board to make a twin triptych - either all 3 positive and all 3 negative or alternating 1 positive and 1 negative. Cheers, Guy ___ Post to the list as PLAIN TEXT only - no HTML Pinhole-Discussion mailing list Pinhole-Discussion@p at ??? unsubscribe or change your account at http://www.???/discussion/
RE: [pinhole-discussion] BTZS tubes; fixing
or... just fix it for 1/2 the time in the tube then dump it into a fixer tray. TMax, especially, has an indicator built into it (the infamous purple) that indicates incomplete fixing so you want to be careful removing the coloration w/ HCA to pull it out. andy -Original Message- From: pinhole-discussion-admin@p at ??? [mailto:pinhole-discussion-admin@p at ???]On Behalf Of Clay Harmon Sent: Sunday, April 14, 2002 12:24 PM To: pinhole-discussion@p at ??? Subject: [pinhole-discussion] BTZS tubes; fixing One of the big reasons to fix in a tray using the BTZS tubes is to get the fixer to the back of the film so it will remove the pink anti-halation backing during fixing. The only knock on the tubes is that you do tend to have problems with the antihalation dye remaining on the back of the negative. Hypo clear will help get rid of it. Clay ___ Post to the list as PLAIN TEXT only - no HTML Pinhole-Discussion mailing list Pinhole-Discussion@p at ??? unsubscribe or change your account at http://www.???/discussion/
RE: [pinhole-discussion] Brand New Pinhole User Questions
just in case I'm doing something wrongwhy do you shave a little off each side instead of just shaving a bit off one side? andy -Original Message- From: pinhole-discussion-admin@p at ??? [mailto:pinhole-discussion-admin@p at ???]On Behalf Of Katharine Thayer Sent: Sunday, April 07, 2002 6:38 AM To: pinhole-discussion@p at ??? Subject: Re: [pinhole-discussion] Brand New Pinhole User Questions George L Smyth wrote: If you are going the paper route, I would recommend using standard RC paper, as the processing process is quick and easy, and you will have a negative without curl that can be contact printed nicely. Just remember, if you're using an 8x10 filmholder, that 8x10 paper is bigger than 8x10 film, and you'll need to shave a little off each side of the paper to make it slide into the holder smoothly. Katharine Thayer ___ Post to the list as PLAIN TEXT only - no HTML Pinhole-Discussion mailing list Pinhole-Discussion@p at ??? unsubscribe or change your account at http://www.???/discussion/
RE: [pinhole-discussion] Pinhole on film
gee Christoph Great idea... could you email me one? 8o) Looking forward to hearing how it works.. andy -Original Message- From: pinhole-discussion-admin@p at ??? [mailto:pinhole-discussion-admin@p at ???]On Behalf Of Tom Miller Sent: Friday, April 05, 2002 10:53 AM To: pinhole-discussion@p at ??? Subject: Re: [pinhole-discussion] Pinhole on film Hello Christoph, I appreciate your offer of a pinhole made with this new method. If I'm one of the luck first ten, my snail mail address is: Tom Miller 10930 Mississippi Blvd NW Coon Rapids, MN 55433-3866 Thanks again, Tom - Original Message - From: Christoph Wirsing chwirs...@web.de To: pinhole-discussion@p at ??? Sent: Friday, April 05, 2002 2:32 AM Subject: [pinhole-discussion] Pinhole on film A while ago somebody asked about pinholes exposed on film. I have been thinking about this before, but never took the time to try it. Now I had to do a print film and used the border of the page for some tests. I only exposed some polaroid pictures until now, so I am not sure if the sharpness actually equals a real hole. But as far as I can tell from the first tests, it seems to work quite well. The good thing about this technique is a) it is very easy to make a perfectly clean hole of exact size b) it is the only way to make holes of other shape, like stars (if you don't have a laser) The way to do it: Use a vector graphics program (like corel draw and many others). Draw a black square of 25*25 cm. Put a white shape in the center of the square, using a size of 1 mm. (I used one dot and two different stars from the wingdings font) Combine the two objects and reduce the whole thing to 2.5*2.5 cm. This way you can be sure that the hole will be 0.1cm . (If you need other sizes, it should be not too difficult to calculate) Then you can duplicate the object as often as the size of the page allows it. Save it as print file and send it to your service bureau. Unfortunately, I don't have much time at the moment for playing around with them, but if somebody else would like to try it: I have made enough filmholes, so that the first 10 people who send me their snail-address can get a set of them. I would like to see the results! Christoph PS: some of my pinhole photographs can be seen on www.chwirsing.de (made with a zero2000, not the filmholes yet) ___ Post to the list as PLAIN TEXT only - no HTML Pinhole-Discussion mailing list Pinhole-Discussion@p at ??? unsubscribe or change your account at http://www.???/discussion/ ___ Post to the list as PLAIN TEXT only - no HTML Pinhole-Discussion mailing list Pinhole-Discussion@p at ??? unsubscribe or change your account at http://www.???/discussion/
[pinhole-discussion] EBay stuff... Wasn't someone looking for a PACKARD SHUTTER GOOD CONDITION N.R. ?
http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItemitem=1342536649 not mine. regards Andy Schmitt Computerist, Photographer, Slayer of Dragons All opinions expressed are mine... Unless otherwise stated or REALLY stupid www.aandy.org - not non-profit on purpose
RE: [pinhole-discussion] More on Scanners...
I LIKE IT thanks...will cogitate on this andy -Original Message- From: pinhole-discussion-admin@p at ??? [mailto:pinhole-discussion-admin@p at ???]On Behalf Of ragowaring Sent: Friday, March 22, 2002 3:27 PM To: pinhole-discussion@p at ??? Subject: Re: [pinhole-discussion] More on Scanners... on 22/3/02 6:16 pm, Andy Schmitt at aschm...@warwick.net wrote: unfortunately they are in a box formation... 8o) what...you expected easy? By box formation do you mean in a square? How about making a disk for a shutter with a hole corresponding to each pinhole. To expose rotate the disk and the holes in the shutter coincide with the pinholes. As a light trap you could have a raised rim around the disk and if the disk covers enough area outside beyond the pinholes, then light leaks should not be a problem. For transporting the camera you could even have a lens cap over the set up to ensure total darkness. Alexis ___ Post to the list as PLAIN TEXT only - no HTML Pinhole-Discussion mailing list Pinhole-Discussion@p at ??? unsubscribe or change your account at http://www.???/discussion/
RE: [pinhole-discussion] More on Scanners...
I have the 1200 dpi version of the 2450 with the accessory transparency scanner think it's great. It will do from 35mm to 8x10's (If you have he storage for it).. I would presume you could find it on EBay pretty cheaply now that the 2450 is out.. I just put together my first 4 pinhole camera am wondering how to shutter them all at once...h have a great Friday andy -Original Message- From: pinhole-discussion-admin@p at ??? [mailto:pinhole-discussion-admin@p at ???]On Behalf Of ragowaring Sent: Friday, March 22, 2002 7:51 AM To: pinhole-discussion@p at ??? Subject: Re: [pinhole-discussion] More on Scanners... I have just been looking on the web and found some interesting facts about the Agfa Duoscan 2500 I am particularly interested in it because it apparently has a 8 x 10 capacity for negatives, something that interests me as I am currently building a large format pinhole camera. Does anyone have experience of this scanner? How does it compare with the Epson 2450? This is relevant to pinhole I promise. Alexis ___ Post to the list as PLAIN TEXT only - no HTML Pinhole-Discussion mailing list Pinhole-Discussion@p at ??? unsubscribe or change your account at http://www.???/discussion/
RE: [pinhole-discussion] alt process images
Gordon Interesting comparison. I'm just getting back into alternative processes...starting with CAlotypes then to Kallitypes. I'm also prepping albumen for some of those as well... thanks.. andy -Original Message- From: pinhole-discussion-admin@p at ??? [mailto:pinhole-discussion-admin@p at ???]On Behalf Of Gordon J. Holtslander Sent: Saturday, March 16, 2002 8:38 PM To: pinhole-discussion@p at ??? Subject: [pinhole-discussion] alt process images Hi: tried posting this before - apologies for possible duplication... Posted two prints from the same negative http://www.???/discussion/upload/gallery2002.php?cmd=maxstar t=pic=window1c.jpg a cyanotype http://www.???/discussion/upload/gallery2002.php?cmd=maxstar t=pic=window1s.jpg a salted paper print The negative was made in an 8x10 wide angle camera using 8x10 ortho film processed in Soemarko LC-1 Both prints were contact printed on handcoated paper, (Stonehenge) one with cyanotype and one wi The salted paper print was exposed in the sun for ~ 5 minutes, the cyanotype under a UV flourscent lamp printer ~ minutes Both were developed in plain water. Salted paper prints need to be fixed, cyanotypes just need plain water. The image is of a window of one of the local artist supply shops. They are in an odd location - a back alley in downtown. the big alternative process prints from a large pinhole neg are so quick and easy :) Gord - Gordon J. Holtslander Dept. of Biology hol...@duke.usask.ca112 Science Place http://duke.usask.ca/~holtsgUniversity of Saskatchewan Tel (306) 966-4433 Saskatoon, Saskatchewan Fax (306) 966-4461 Canada S7N 5E2 - ___ Post to the list as PLAIN TEXT only - no HTML Pinhole-Discussion mailing list Pinhole-Discussion@p at ??? unsubscribe or change your account at http://www.???/discussion/
RE: [pinhole-discussion] Test site -Comcast
Since I've received several comments like this Comcast members get 25mb of online storage that is shared by something called mywebpages myfilelocker. You instantiate them by signing on to Comcast home page http://www.comcast.net/comcast.html with your account name password. The left side sign on box will be replaced with a couple of selection elements including the above 2. Comcast gives you 7 assignable email names I (think) they all get separate spaces...but I haven't confirmed this yet. andy -Original Message- From: pinhole-discussion-admin@p at ??? [mailto:pinhole-discussion-admin@p at ???]On Behalf Of jamesromeo Sent: Monday, March 11, 2002 11:44 PM To: pinhole-discussion@p at ??? Subject: Re: [pinhole-discussion] Test site on 3/11/02 9:16 PM, Andy Schmitt at aschm...@warwick.net wrote: Where did you get the 25mb storage ? Have I missed something? James http://mywebpages.comcast.net/aandy/ Since we are given a free 25mb of web storage now that we are comcast, I figured I'd play a bit. This is some of my newest work...both Lens'ed (gasp!) Pinhole.. This was automatically produced by Photoshop 6...thumbnails all...interesting. well, I hope you enjoy the images as always constructive criticism is begged for! thanks andy
[pinhole-discussion] Test site
http://mywebpages.comcast.net/aandy/ Since we are given a free 25mb of web storage now that we are comcast, I figured I'd play a bit. This is some of my newest work...both Lens'ed (gasp!) Pinhole.. This was automatically produced by Photoshop 6...thumbnails all...interesting. well, I hope you enjoy the images as always constructive criticism is begged for! thanks andy
[pinhole-discussion] One way to scoopup our images for others site...
http://www.express-soft.com/ item #1 Express WebPictures (v1.6) Do you want to collect hundreds of thousands pictures? As you know, there is a big amount of websites with a huge amount of different pictures: celebrities, beautiful girls, wallpapers, nature, animals, cars, airplanes, etc. And of course, it is a time consuming affair to save every picture manually. But now you can forget about this frustrating process! All you need is Express WebPictures - just spend a couple minutes to get it and this award-winning tool will help you to download thousands of pictures every day! ow well... andy
RE: [pinhole-discussion] Yet another website
Neat... though the entry photograph for the pinhole page is s sad... 8o) The green tree is somethingok, what did you do? a real nice beginning...makes me want to (once again) revamp my site with photos taken after the last ice age... keep us informed as to your progress.. andy -Original Message- From: pinhole-discussion-admin@p at ??? [mailto:pinhole-discussion-admin@p at ???]On Behalf Of Stephen REES Sent: Tuesday, February 26, 2002 5:59 PM To: pinhole-discussion@p at ??? Subject: [pinhole-discussion] Yet another website Please have a look at my pinhole website. It's not finished yet, I hope to add captions to all the photos and give some information about the cameras used. Then there is the links page and all the other bits I have forgotten. Just click on the 'pinhole photography gallery' banner. http://www.s-rees.co.uk/ Although I haven't contributed much to this list I do enjoy reading the posts and looking at all the photos. I must say thanks to Roger Armour for re-kindling my enthusiasm for pinhole photography. Stephen Rees ___ Post to the list as PLAIN TEXT only - no HTML Pinhole-Discussion mailing list Pinhole-Discussion@p at ??? unsubscribe or change your account at http://www.???/discussion/
RE: [pinhole-discussion] test
you forgot to say testing 1,2,3 -Original Message- From: pinhole-discussion-admin@p at ??? [mailto:pinhole-discussion-admin@p at ???]On Behalf Of Guy Glorieux Sent: Wednesday, February 27, 2002 7:31 PM To: pinhole List Cc: Gordon J. Holtslander Subject: [pinhole-discussion] test test ___ Post to the list as PLAIN TEXT only - no HTML Pinhole-Discussion mailing list Pinhole-Discussion@p at ??? unsubscribe or change your account at http://www.???/discussion/
RE: [pinhole-discussion] digital pinholes
Meggan what is your website name? www.meggould.net doesn't seem to come up. thanks andy -Original Message- From: pinhole-discussion-admin@p at ??? [mailto:pinhole-discussion-admin@p at ???]On Behalf Of Meggan Gould Sent: Monday, February 25, 2002 2:15 PM To: pinhole-discussion@p at ??? Subject: [pinhole-discussion] digital pinholes bretton-- i have done quite a few digital pinholes, but the only way i figured out to do it feasibly was with a digital slr (i used a canon d30), and taking the lens off, i used a coke can-converted to pinhole lens capthis worked quite well, but definitely NOT without pixels. i have a few on my website www.meggould.neti ended up making big enlargements with these (A3 and bigger), and the pixels are impressively large, as the cameras aren't really designed for long exposures (mine were mostly around 10 seconds), making images with lots of noise. problem with 4 x 5 back in a ready-made pinhole 4 x 5 back is the light-tight-ness, as the digital backs have a scanning arm-device thing, and the dowels to keep the film holder in place are definitely not compatible. something could certainly be rigged up though, i imagine. though i don't know of any that has the possibility of a long exposure either meggan ___ Post to the list as PLAIN TEXT only - no HTML Pinhole-Discussion mailing list Pinhole-Discussion@p at ??? unsubscribe or change your account at http://www.???/discussion/
[pinhole-discussion] Caution...only Quazi pinhole problem...
Hi All Does anybody happen to know the color temperature of the 300 500 watt quartz-iodide (tungsten-halogen) lights? I understand they are pretty close to 3200 K. thanks regards Andy Schmitt AAndy LLC Computer Systems Created Perplexed Users UnPerplexed Dragons Slain,Ideas Generated Photographs Taken http://www.aandy.org Photography Head, Peters Valley Craft Center
RE: [pinhole-discussion] Pin...ball shot
nice photograph... you know, every time I get lit shoot I get some really weird photographs.. andy -Original Message- From: pinhole-discussion-admin@p at ??? [mailto:pinhole-discussion-admin@p at ???]On Behalf Of Hughes Sent: Saturday, February 16, 2002 11:42 AM To: pinhole-discussion@p at ??? Subject: [pinhole-discussion] Pin...ball shot Hello all, This pinhole shot is for amusement only http://www.users.skynet.be/asveyou/pinball Sorry for the metaphor, as a french speaker, I'm not so sure about its relevance but I couldn't resist any longer. Sometimes a photographer's life looks like that... Smashed into the playground, you've got to turn lamps on, collect bonus on great shots. The bolder is your trajectory, the better you succeed. And finally, if you have been really good, you can SHOOT AGAIN :-) Hughes PS: I'm a horse of 1966. -- Atelier de Photographie Hugues Mertens http://www.users.skynet.be/asveyou ___ Post to the list as PLAIN TEXT only - no HTML Pinhole-Discussion mailing list Pinhole-Discussion@p at ??? unsubscribe or change your account at http://www.???/discussion/
[pinhole-discussion] eBay - Pinhole Photography Alternative How To Book
http://cgi.ebay.com/aw-cgi/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItemitem=1332970745 'A Beginners Guide to Basic Pinhole Photography: How to build and Use a Variable Focal Length Pinhole Camera by D. D. Barton (fyi...not my item) regards Andy Schmitt Computerist, Photographer, Slayer of Dragons All opinions expressed are mine... Unless otherwise stated or REALLY stupid www.aandy.org - not non-profit on purpose
RE: [pinhole-discussion] MerlinXD camera is ready!
pretty neat Jim...good job!! andy -Original Message- From: pinhole-discussion-admin@p at ??? [mailto:pinhole-discussion-admin@p at ???]On Behalf Of Jim Kosinski Sent: Thursday, February 14, 2002 10:01 AM To: pinhole-discussion@p at ??? Subject: [pinhole-discussion] MerlinXD camera is ready! Happy Valentine's Day everyone... The new Merlin-XD pinhole camera is ready. You put the chemistry right in the camera to develop the pictures in room light or outdoors. Details can be found at www.paintcancamera.com There's also a lot of good info on building cameras obscura and projects for teachers students of pinhole photography to enjoy. Cheers Jim Many thanks, Jim Kosinski Starlight Cameras PO Box 540 Cherry Valley NY 13320 usa Merlin pinhole cameras darkroom kits www.paintcancamera.com 607-264-3480
RE: [pinhole-discussion] HORSE, isn't it?
isn't being a wild boar a contradiction in terms?? 8o) (sorry...couldn't resist) andy -Original Message- From: pinhole-discussion-admin@p at ??? [mailto:pinhole-discussion-admin@p at ???]On Behalf Of ISHIKAWA Masaru Sent: Wednesday, February 13, 2002 3:22 AM To: pinhole-discussion@p at ???; ragowar...@btinternet.com Subject: Re: [pinhole-discussion] HORSE, isn't it? From: ragowaring ragowar...@btinternet.com List-Post: pinhole-discussion@pinhole.com Date: Wed, 13 Feb 2002 07:35:49 + I was born in 59, does this mean I am a cow? Aaaah, someone tell me this is good Alexis You are a Wild Boar. Folling table is quick lookup for your year. Year 1900 to 2007. Easy to remember? Mou,Cow,Tig,Rab,Dra,Sna,Hor,She,Mon,Hen,Dog,WB 00, 01, 02, 03, 04, 05, 06, 07, 08, 09, 10, 11 12, 13, 14, 15, 16, 17, 18, 19, 20, 21, 22, 23 24, 25, 26, 27, 28, 29, 30, 31, 32, 33, 34, 35 36, 37, 38, 39, 40, 41, 42, 43, 44, 45, 46, 47 48, 49, 50, 51, 52, 53, 54, 55, 56, 57, 58, 59 60, 61, 62, 63, 64, 65, 66, 67, 68, 69, 70, 71 72, 73, 74, 75, 76, 77, 78, 79, 80, 81, 82, 83 84, 85, 86, 87, 88, 89, 90, 91, 92, 93, 94, 95 96, 97, 98, 99, 00, 01, 02, 03, 04, 05, 06, 07 - Masaru ___ Post to the list as PLAIN TEXT only - no HTML Pinhole-Discussion mailing list Pinhole-Discussion@p at ??? unsubscribe or change your account at http://www.???/discussion/
RE: [pinhole-discussion] EBay - Metalphoto 12x20 .003 Matte Film 225 sheets
It was held up because I was on a different ISP it wasn't registered with the newsgroup...sorry. If I see any more I'll be sure to post it from the proper ISP. Did you request a sample? andy -Original Message- From: pinhole-discussion-admin@p at ??? [mailto:pinhole-discussion-admin@p at ???]On Behalf Of Chris Peregoy Sent: Tuesday, February 12, 2002 7:10 PM To: pinhole-discussion@p at ??? Subject: Re: [pinhole-discussion] EBay - Metalphoto 12x20 .003 Matte Film 225 sheets Too bad this is already over. I had just been checking this produce out and a similar one for inkjet printing. Here is a link to their web site. http://www.horizonsisg.com/metalphoto/ It went for $21.50 which was probably a steal. I guess I need to check my pinhole messages more often. Andy Schmitt wrote: http://cgi.ebay.com/aw-cgi/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItemitem=1329240233 I'm not t sure what it is but it has a picture that says do not open unless in a photographic darkroom 225 sheets weigh 50 lbs or so.thought someone may be interested... (not mine) regards Andy Schmitt AAndy LLC Computer Systems Created Perplexed Users UnPerplexed Dragons Slain,Ideas Generated Photographs Taken http://www.aandy.org Photography Head, Peters Valley Craft Center ___ Post to the list as PLAIN TEXT only - no HTML Pinhole-Discussion mailing list Pinhole-Discussion@p at ??? unsubscribe or change your account at http://www.???/discussion/ -- -- Chris Peregoy | http://www.gl.umbc.edu/~peregoy | http://imda.umbc.edu/ ___ Post to the list as PLAIN TEXT only - no HTML Pinhole-Discussion mailing list Pinhole-Discussion@p at ??? unsubscribe or change your account at http://www.???/discussion/
RE: [pinhole-discussion] Ag stuff
Thats what I figured but I don't have my chemistry books down herethough it gives me a smashing idea for out jewelry people @ Peters Valley Craft Education center andy -Original Message- From: pinhole-discussion-admin@p at ??? [mailto:pinhole-discussion-admin@p at ???]On Behalf Of Richard M. Koolish Sent: Friday, July 10, 2893 6:44 PM To: pinhole-discussion@p at ??? Subject: Re: [pinhole-discussion] Ag stuff andy, that's rediculous, all you have to do is test it to find out for yourself: scrape a small piece of copper down to bright metal with sandpaper and immerse the copper in used fixer... silver will begin to plate in less than a minute... now try it with developer! can you locate these articles for us? jim That's not a test for silver content, just a test to see if silver will plate out under those chemical conditions. Developers with high sodium sulfite concentrations are supposed to dissolve some of the silver grains. ___ Post to the list as PLAIN TEXT only - no HTML Pinhole-Discussion mailing list Pinhole-Discussion@p at ??? unsubscribe or change your account at http://www.???/discussion/
[pinhole-discussion] Interesting product I found today....
http://www.horizonsisg.com/AlumaJet/default.asp Inkjet printable aluminum sheets. regards Andy Schmitt Computerist, Photographer, Slayer of Dragons All opinions expressed are mine... Unless otherwise stated or REALLY stupid www.aandy.org - not non-profit on purpose
[pinhole-discussion] EBay - Metalphoto 12x20 .003 Matte Film 225 sheets
http://cgi.ebay.com/aw-cgi/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItemitem=1329240233 I'm not t sure what it is but it has a picture that says do not open unless in a photographic darkroom 225 sheets weigh 50 lbs or so.thought someone may be interested... (not mine) regards Andy Schmitt AAndy LLC Computer Systems Created Perplexed Users UnPerplexed Dragons Slain,Ideas Generated Photographs Taken http://www.aandy.org Photography Head, Peters Valley Craft Center
