see the hard data.
tigerbengalis [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
Sean, you take Jewish messianic ethnic supremacism
far more seriously and gravely than pretty much any Zionist does today or in
the modern era. Day to day Isreali concerns are much more mundane and vulgar,
just
faction during the Bush 43 years, with the support of
powerful neocon media owners and controllers. Who precisely are you claiming
is controlling Rupert Murdoch, Sheldon Adelson, Sumner Redstone or Mort
Zuckerman? Do they have names? Let's see the hard data.
tigerbengalis [EMAIL
Who do you think the Zionists learned their ideology from?:
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Immigration_Act_of_1924
Sean McBride [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: [Why
Americanism and Zionism are radically different ideologies.]
Sent to you by Sean McBride via Google
of the Old Testament and modern Jewish ethnic nationalists like Moses Hess.
See: !{book; Shlomo Avineri; 1985; Moses Hess: Prophet of Communism and
Zionism; New York University Press}.
tigerbengalis [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
Who do you think the Zionists learned their ideology
: An
unanswered question to Tigerbengalis:
Which major lobby in American politics, other than the Israel lobby (including
neoconservative outfits like Freedom's Watch), has been aggressively agitating
for an American war against Iran? So far you have not mentioned a single name
Anyone who ever thought the Democratic Party was or could be a vehicle for an
anti-war movement is either delusional or lacking in a basic understanding of
recent or distant history.
The DP has backed (and often directed) EVERY imperial adventure from the
post-WWII period (which is the era of
In this instance I'll second Sean's comments below. BTW, are you referiing to
Google's Larry Page?
Sean McBride [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I am much
more interested in talent and creativity than ethnic purity, and talent and
creativity emerge among all ethnic
Tim, there are plenty of Americans who think that someone's Nazi sympathies,
like Macdonald's, are the serious issue, not his lame and hateful ideas.
You might want to take note that Nazism always was and remains an enemy of
America (the real America, not Cheney's America, not Macdonald's dream
Tim--
Glad you brought up the fine scholar Sutton.
From his book on Wall Street and the Bolsheviks:
However, none of the above statements can be supported with hard empirical
evidence. The most significant information is contained in the paragraph to the
effect that the British
were essentially secular iterations of Jewish messianism? (This is
NOT to argue that the Jews are responsible for Communism, which is indeed an
antisemitic belief.)
tigerbengalis [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
Tim--
Glad you brought up the fine scholar Sutton
of both groups to the establishment of Communism as
a major world movement? I would especially like to see the financial numbers
presented in a simple list.
tigerbengalis [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
Who cares what Wikipedia says? They're not an
authority on anything
I love the Captain's claim below: I am not anti-Semitic, but neither am I
stupid.
Too may one-liner responses possible to even no where to start.
Captain May [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
Dear Cascadian,
There is no issue that has brought so much friction to the
on ethnic outsiders.
tigerbengalis [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
I love the Captain's claim below: I am not
anti-Semitic, but neither am I stupid.
Too may one-liner responses possible to even no where to start.
Captain May [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote
Do you really equate one rich Jewish guy with he financiers of a radical
political movement, and with responsibility for having murdered 100 million
innocent civilians in the 20th century (a claim, by the way, bandied about by
the neo-fascist right, which attributes all war deaths in the 20th
both for those [Jewish] communities and the host countries.
Where is the data showing Jews supposed conflicting loyalties causing severe
problems for host countries in history? Is Mein Kampf your source book?
tim_howells_1000 [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
tigerbengalis
What are Erik Prince's connections to the Mossad?
Sean McBride [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: [Since
Blackwater is a Christian Zionist op, the appellation Mossad is probably
pretty close to the truth. Erik Prince is a Mossad tool, as are all Christian
Zionists.]
More Jew-baiting blather, tim. none of these examples indicate any pattern of
loyalties to the global Jewish community conflict with loyalty to one's
homeland.
As to your incredible claim that Jewish participation in anti-tsarist efforts
fueled anti-Semitism among Russian patriots, that would
been good for them -- it ruined their lives.
tigerbengalis [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
Sean, your disdain for Jews taints each successive
post more and more. I don;t even think you realize it. It seems that it is you
who is obsessed with ethnicities.
Sean McBride [EMAIL
through some set of Jew-demeaning
blinders. I can't debate or argue much of anything with you if you persist in
making such blatantly false readings based on your narrow preconceptions.
tim_howells_1000 [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
TigerBengalis wrote:
It's next
David
Ben-Gurion, have been controlled by these myths and symbols. Some Jews are
trapped in an infinite negative feedback loop. Many Jews are trying to escape
the loop.
tim_howells_1000 [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
TigerBengalis wrote:
It's next to impossible to even
reading list on Jewish
controversies? What books and authors have most influenced your thinking?
tigerbengalis [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
Sean
I have said more than once on the list that I am a critic of Zionism. But that
means nothing to you, since anyone who doesn't
is this such an essential, almost sacred doctrine? Why for example can
TigerBengalis never, never under any circumstance concede that antisemitism has
ever in one single case been the result of resource competition? The answer is
that if this were so, then the problem would be solvable - you just find some
just
don't know who he is, and haven't read his writings --
no opinion so far.
tigerbengalis [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
Tim--
It's next to impossible to even respond to your narrow and silly stereotypes of
Jews in general (when you favorably cite the silly passage Jews
of human nature.
Ethnic nationalists will always rub ethnic outsiders the wrong way.
tigerbengalis [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
Not sure why you are asking me, if indeed you are--I
don;t recall making the claim Jewish ethnic nationalism is good and European
ethnic
response was too brief to be accused of coherence or incoherence. I
think we've encountered an interesting mental block here.
tigerbengalis [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
Again can't respond--you're rambling reply has no
logical coherency and structure, other than
an interesting mental block here.
tigerbengalis [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Again can't respond--you're
rambling reply has no logical coherency and structure, other than the unifying
thread of hostility towards Jews.
Sean McBride [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
Let's try this again:
On what
trendlines.
Either the Israel lobby is going to smarten up and back off, or we are going to
be entering interesting times indeed.
Have you been following the fates of the two high-level AIPAC officials who
have been charged with spying for Israel?
tigerbengalis [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Sean
Apologetics for anti-Semitism and Polish murderous pogroms by a homophobic
blogger are big issues of interest on this news-group?
tim_howells_1000 [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
John Spritzler is a very interesting blogger (found via xymphora) who is
tackling the big
campaign against Iran.
(And to repeat once again -- the great majority of Jews are as unhappy with
this administration as I am. The Israel lobby most assuredly does not = the
Jews.)
tigerbengalis [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
You're absolutely right--that dinky
From the blog of Michael A. Hoffman II, Nazi scum.
Sean McBride [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
Sent to you by Sean McBride via Google Reader:
New Israel Lobby book by Mearsheimer and Walt reviewed by NY Times
via On the Contrary by Michael A. Hoffman II
He's still an asshat, no doubt still an anti-Semitic moron, and probably has a
closet full of porn.
Sean McBride [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: My
comment:
Dick Eastman deserves some credit for acknowledging and apologizing for the
antisemitism which disfigures quite a
Sean McBride [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
[The New York Times is an Israeli/neocon op, trying to pass itself off as a
liberal institution -- the algorithm couldn't be more simple.]
Elsewhere, Sean McBride [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
In fact, I never assert as fact that which isn't backed up by
, and ruined their credibility on the rocks
of the biggest foreign policy disaster in American history, the Internet would
have taken them down anyway. No loss here whatever; all gain. New York Times
hirelings are not competitive in the free marketplace of ideas.
tigerbengalis [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote
competed against one another for territory, resources,
wealth and power? Isn't this the main theme in human history? And would it come
at all as a surprise that this behavior is driven by genetic factors?
tigerbengalis [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
tim_howells_1000
whole exchange with tigerbengalis. Only
Sean's comment on tigerbengalis led me back to take a closer look, since it
made me wonder.
But basically. Collectivism vs individualism: Even as an outsider I can easily
see that it is much easier to survive in some cases
with-a-little-help-from-your
@yahoogroups.com, tigerbengalis
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LeaNder [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
There were attempts along these lines: e.g. the Spanish Marrano. The
problem is, after the conversion there was still suspicion and partly it
was justified, some Jews simply disappeared behind
. Not very
impressive.
Sean McBride [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Can we
see your complete list? What books have you read on my brief bibliography?
Have you read Ginsberg?
tigerbengalis [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
I would add to the top
Finkelstein's work is consistently solid, particular the one on your list,
which I highly recommend.
Sean McBride [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Can we
see your complete list? What books have you read on my brief bibliography?
Have you read Ginsberg?
tigerbengalis
? That case could be made, easily. And what has been the
result?
And your full bibliography?
tigerbengalis [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
Ginsberg makes the oh-so-shocking discovery that
Jews over the ages have often sought to ingratiate themselves with ruling
elites
getting started and which, in combination with artificial intelligence, has
unlimited possibilities for speeding up the evolutionary curve and generating
entirely new life forms.
tigerbengalis [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
Actually its kinda been dead in the water once
and traditional liberals.
Ethnic nationalists tend to be on the same page only with themselves; ethnic
nationalism is intrinsically divisive and self-ghettoizing.
tigerbengalis [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
Most Jews havent a clue who Avigdor Lieberman,
Douglas Feith
Sean McBride [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
White ethnic nationalists like Kevin MacDonald, Patrick Buchanan and Paul Craig
Roberts have strongly opposed self-destructive American meddling in Mideast
politics, and made accurate predictions about the disastrous
tim_howells_1000 [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
These are areas where the general public has moved far ahead of academia. Most
people are very comfortable now with the idea that there are genetic and
biological bases for human behavior, and accept this as established
.)
tigerbengalis [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
tim_howells_1000 [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
These are areas where the general public has moved far ahead of academia. Most
people are very comfortable now with the idea that there are genetic
? Probably to some degree. But we may all be on rather short
leashes.
There is something about extreme xenophobia that is strongly suggestive of
obsessive-compulsive disorders -- I'm betting on a genetic origin for the
mindset.
tigerbengalis [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
Sean
Actually, I very much consider the American Psychological Association to be on
the fringe, at least scientifically speaking. I'm not a science worshipper, and
find plenty problematic with Big Science, but no one in the scientific
community would consider the APA terribly relevant to scientific
Sean McBride [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
Elucidate: you are saying that there is a genetic basis for diseases like
Tay-Sachs and sickle cell anemia among certain ethnic groups, but there is a
not a genetic basis for mental and personality traits among certain
with this particular article?
tigerbengalis [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
Actually, I very much consider the American
Psychological Association to be on the fringe, at least scientifically
speaking. I'm not a science worshipper, and find plenty problematic with Big
Science, but no one
tim_howells_1000 [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
MacDonald approached these issues from a scientific rather than a political
perspective. What you and most seem to be saying is that the conclusions he
has reached are just too terrible to contemplate, so he has to be
Sean McBride [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
So: for tigerbengalis:
One of the most influential Jewish leaders in America has himself clearly
portrayed Jewish history as a series of violent confrontations with evil
ethnic outsiders. He is obviously obsessed
tim_howells_1000 [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
It is true that the antisemitism faced by Jews in the Ghettos was of a
different nature, and was not based on resource competition. The issue of the
highly collective and exclusive nature of Jewish identity was a
developed a scientific understanding of the dark depths of
this species soul. Hence, religion's prominence and persistence, as a way to
find explanations to the unexplainable.
tim_howells_1000 [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
tigerbengalis
Below you are displaying
Hey, for today's chic young goose-stepping barnyard hipster, what's not to love
:)
Michael Pugliese [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
http://www.google.com/search?q=Kevin+MacDonald+Stormfront
Results 1 - 20 of about 10,400 English pages for Kevin MacDonald Stormfront
Jackson, tigerbengalis or anyone else.
What I think is going on is that even asking these questions is highly alarming
to the neocon camp -- the neocons (and their secret sympathizers) tend to
become hysterical and even violent when confronted with the bizarre and
indefensible self-contradictions
that the neocons will have succeeded in triggering a
major wave of global anti-Semitism. The anger against the neocons
coming from the American foreign policy establishment these days is
electric and palpable.
tigerbengalis [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
Sean
Why are you
Abrams is substantially running American Mideast policy
from the NSC.
tigerbengalis [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
Sean
So if I connect the dots in your equation below, it boils down to a
claim that this most dangerous movement (and I don't dispute its
dangerousness
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