Being a pylons newb myself, the first thing I did was write auth and
registration. It took a day.Granted I wasn't trying to support every
auth method I could think of like authkit does,but I learned lots.If
you want auth (and other things) rolled in use use turbogears. But
getting basic
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That's it.. that's the reason to use Pylons: SQLAlchemy. If you need
to actually use a database correctly (which I'm guessing that you do),
then you need to use
On Tue, Jan 20, 2009 at 5:28 AM, Jonathan Vanasco jonat...@findmeon.com wrote:
Django is like Rails -- it forces you into building certain types of
apps with certain styles.
If you build a Django app , you're pretty much married to it -- and
can expect it to work much like other apps.
On Mon, Jan 19, 2009 at 6:20 PM, Colin Flanagan quadvill...@yahoo.com wrote:
I'm curious if Django's CMS reputation comes from the fact that it's used by
a lot of newspapers and content providers, or if there really is something
that makes it advantageous over other frameworks.
Django's
On Jan 19, 9:20 am, Colin Flanagan quadvill...@yahoo.com wrote:
The SQLAlchemy argument is a very compelling one. I have an application
that, while being a CMS, has heavily relational data. I was urged by
different people to do it either in Django or Plone, but went with Pylons. My
On Jan 19, 1:29 pm, Wyatt Baldwin wyatt.lee.bald...@gmail.com wrote:
On Jan 19, 9:20 am, Colin Flanagan quadvill...@yahoo.com wrote:
The SQLAlchemy argument is a very compelling one. I have an application
that, while being a CMS, has heavily relational data. I was urged by
different
On Jan 19, 12:26 pm, Noah Gift noah.g...@gmail.com wrote:
On Tue, Jan 20, 2009 at 5:28 AM, Jonathan Vanasco jonat...@findmeon.com
wrote:
Django is like Rails -- it forces you into building certain types of
apps with certain styles.
If you build a Django app , you're pretty much married
On Mon, Jan 19, 2009 at 10:29 PM, Wyatt Baldwin
wyatt.lee.bald...@gmail.com wrote:
On Jan 19, 9:20 am, Colin Flanagan quadvill...@yahoo.com wrote:
The SQLAlchemy argument is a very compelling one. I have an application
that, while being a CMS, has heavily relational data. I was urged by
On Tue, Jan 20, 2009 at 10:40 AM, Wyatt Baldwin
wyatt.lee.bald...@gmail.com wrote:
On Jan 19, 12:26 pm, Noah Gift noah.g...@gmail.com wrote:
On Tue, Jan 20, 2009 at 5:28 AM, Jonathan Vanasco jonat...@findmeon.com
wrote:
Django is like Rails -- it forces you into building certain types of
On Mon, Jan 19, 2009 at 3:15 PM, Lawrence Oluyede l.oluy...@gmail.com wrote:
On Mon, Jan 19, 2009 at 6:20 PM, Colin Flanagan quadvill...@yahoo.com wrote:
I'm curious if Django's CMS reputation comes from the fact that it's used by
a lot of newspapers and content providers, or if there really
On Mon, Jan 19, 2009 at 1:29 PM, Wyatt Baldwin
wyatt.lee.bald...@gmail.com wrote:
On Jan 19, 9:20 am, Colin Flanagan quadvill...@yahoo.com wrote:
The SQLAlchemy argument is a very compelling one. I have an application
that, while being a CMS, has heavily relational data. I was urged by
On Mon, Jan 19, 2009 at 4:03 PM, Mike Orr sluggos...@gmail.com wrote:
On Mon, Jan 19, 2009 at 1:29 PM, Wyatt Baldwin
wyatt.lee.bald...@gmail.com wrote:
On Jan 19, 9:20 am, Colin Flanagan quadvill...@yahoo.com wrote:
The SQLAlchemy argument is a very compelling one. I have an application
On Tue, Jan 20, 2009 at 11:17 AM, Jorge Vargas jorge.var...@gmail.com wrote:
On Mon, Jan 19, 2009 at 4:03 PM, Mike Orr sluggos...@gmail.com wrote:
On Mon, Jan 19, 2009 at 1:29 PM, Wyatt Baldwin
wyatt.lee.bald...@gmail.com wrote:
On Jan 19, 9:20 am, Colin Flanagan quadvill...@yahoo.com
On Mon, Jan 19, 2009 at 4:54 PM, Colin Flanagan quadvill...@yahoo.com wrote:
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On Mon
On 20/01/2009, at 3:30 AM, Thomas G. Willis wrote:
Being a pylons newb myself, the first thing I did was write auth and
registration. It took a day.Granted I wasn't trying to support every
auth method I could think of like authkit does,but I learned lots.If
you want auth (and other things)
I don't use FormEncode. It is based on a very common design mistake
made by a lot of programmers, who think one can better generate html
from code.
I think you are maybe mixing up Formencode and some projects that use
formencode. Formencode's core is for validating and converting to and
Cropr's point seems to be that programmers should not design forms
because graphic designers do a much better job. That is true only if
a complex visual design for the form page is paramount. In most cases
the complex design occurs on the home page and content pages, and the
form is
Hello.
On Wednesday December 10, 2008 07:56:18 Dalius Dobravolskas wrote:
I personally think that it is not possible to
write universal authorization system that will satisfy everyone but it
is possible to simplify writing one to very low level.
Agreed.
Let me advertise repoze.what a little
Hi James,
On Wed, Dec 10, 2008 at 7:05 PM, James Gardner [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
a) the author or authkit is never around
I am occasionally ;-)
b) authkit is way over complicated
Agreed, but authentication and authorisation *is* complicated and
there are lots of different use cases.
Hi Raoul,
Sorry, I quoted someone else, and I didn't clarify to say that I don't
agree with him 100%. Faux pas on my part there, I didn't intend to be
insulting. What I tried to convey was that AuthKit doesn't fit *my*
needs.
Sorry, I hadn't seen the earlier thread, my fault too.
Not at
I choose Pylons and not Django for 2 specific reasons
- Mako SQLAlchemy are far superior than the templating engine and
ORM of Django.
- Pylons is full WSGi from the ground up. It Django WSGI smells like
Object Orientation is pasted into Perl
One item I really liked about Django that is not
On Tue, Dec 9, 2008 at 11:33 PM, Wichert Akkerman [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
Previously cropr wrote:
I don't use FormEncode. It is based on a very common design mistake
made by a lot of programmers, who think one can better generate html
from code. When a graphical artist designs the
Previously cropr wrote:
I don't use FormEncode. It is based on a very common design mistake
made by a lot of programmers, who think one can better generate html
from code. When a graphical artist designs the layout of a web page,
he uses tools who speak html, css and javascript, but no
Wichert Akkerman wrote:
Previously cropr wrote:
I don't use FormEncode. It is based on a very common design mistake
made by a lot of programmers, who think one can better generate html
from code. When a graphical artist designs the layout of a web page,
he uses tools who speak html, css
On Tue, Dec 9, 2008 at 2:36 AM, Noah Gift [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
On Tue, Dec 9, 2008 at 11:33 PM, Wichert Akkerman [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
Previously cropr wrote:
I don't use FormEncode. It is based on a very common design mistake
made by a lot of programmers, who think one can
Hello, Raoul,
These are the things I wanted in my auth+auth system:
- Customisable table names
- Users, Roles and Permissions
- Hide/show menu items pulled from the DB, based on permissions
- Enable/disable links, based on permissions
- Hide/show sections of pages, based on permissions
-
If your questions needs to be answered quickly, Django may be right
choice. I think, you could have known why not to use PHP when you ask
question on Django vs Pylons :-) .
I NEVER worked on Python at jobs. I wanted to create a website. I have
chosen Pylons over Django due to its customization
On Mon, Dec 8, 2008 at 3:54 AM, Krishgy [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
If your questions needs to be answered quickly, Django may be right
choice. I think, you could have known why not to use PHP when you ask
question on Django vs Pylons :-) .
I NEVER worked on Python at jobs. I wanted to create
2008/12/6 zunzun [EMAIL PROTECTED]:
Seems like I should use Django? Or should it be Pylons instead?
Here is the advice of an average programmer with no emotional
involvement in any of these projects.
I think it depends on your background. The Pylons ecosystem is very
powerful but it's quite
Previously Alex Marandon wrote:
2008/12/6 zunzun [EMAIL PROTECTED]:
Seems like I should use Django? Or should it be Pylons instead?
Here is the advice of an average programmer with no emotional
involvement in any of these projects.
I think it depends on your background. The Pylons
Alex Marandon wrote:
2008/12/6 zunzun [EMAIL PROTECTED]:
Seems like I should use Django? Or should it be Pylons instead?
Here is the advice of an average programmer with no emotional
involvement in any of these projects.
I think it depends on your background. The Pylons
Previously Ian Bicking wrote:
Wichert Akkerman wrote:
Previously Alex Marandon wrote:
2008/12/6 zunzun [EMAIL PROTECTED]:
Seems like I should use Django? Or should it be Pylons instead?
Here is the advice of an average programmer with no emotional
involvement in any of these
Wichert Akkerman wrote:
Previously Alex Marandon wrote:
2008/12/6 zunzun [EMAIL PROTECTED]:
Seems like I should use Django? Or should it be Pylons instead?
Here is the advice of an average programmer with no emotional
involvement in any of these projects.
I think it depends on your
On Mon, Dec 8, 2008 at 5:50 AM, Jorge Vargas [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
On Mon, Dec 8, 2008 at 3:54 AM, Krishgy [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
If your questions needs to be answered quickly, Django may be right
choice. I think, you could have known why not to use PHP when you ask
question on Django
Comparison before starting a project, used to decide which framework
to use.
Django: according to http://groups.google.com/group/django-users/about
Members 12,016
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Pylons: according to http://groups.google.com/group/pylons-discuss/about
Members: 1,748
Group Activity is
On Sat, Dec 6, 2008 at 10:39 AM, Ben Bangert [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
On Dec 6, 2008, at 9:31 AM, zunzun wrote:
Comparison before starting a project, used to decide which framework
to use.
Django: according to http://groups.google.com/group/django-users/about
Members 12,016
Group Activity
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