[ql-users] Event help in C68?

2002-05-16 Thread James Hunkins

Hey Guys,

I have finally decided to join this list as my work on QDT progresses 
(thanks Marcel for recommending that I try this).  Was putting it off 
due to time constraints but now seems like a good time with a cry or two 
for help.

I could use some assistance in using C68 in the pointer environment in 
passing an event from one job to another, which I can not currently get 
to work.

I have tried two scenarios.
1) using sms_sevt and sms_wevt
- I used the job ID received back as an integer from sms_info for 
each job
  . when these were checked they matched the job ID listed with the 
SBASIC command jobs but did not include any tag info, etc.
? is this the correct job id to use in these calls?  If not, how 
can I obtain the correct ID?
- I set the eventlist for sms_wevt = 0xFF so that it would accept any 
event sent it
- sent an event with sms_sevt to the sms_wevt program
- nothing received

2) using iop_rptr (enhanced for the upper 8 bits for vectors) and 
sms_sevt
   - same job ID as described in 1)
   - assumed that sms_sevt is actually using the upper 8 bits of the 
vector list that iop_rptr checks
   - sent event
   - nothing received (checked both upper and lower bytes)

Can anyone help me with this?  If not in C68, then in assembly.  I 
should be able to match the two.

I need to do this to communicate between my icon objects and their 
associated folder in QDT.

Thanks,
Jim




[ql-users] More C68 help - pointer env; positioning windows

2002-05-16 Thread James Hunkins

Here's another question while I am at it.

Normally when I position a window at an absolute location in the pointer 
environment, it goes where it belongs.  However, I am resizing a window 
(I manually remove the definition, reset the data structure, and reopen 
it) and it goes where it belongs every other time.  The off times it 
shoots to the left of the screen, pretty much in parallel with its 
correct location.  The next resize sends it back to where it belongs.

It has been suggested that it is because the window position is relative 
to the cursor, even when I do an absolute address.  This sounds familiar 
and I think that I had this problem before and figured it out.  However, 
I seem to be stuck again.

Could someone walk me through the peculiarities of window positioning 
within the pointer environment.  I do not want to set the window 
relative to the pointer but instead in an absolute location.

Thanks guys,
Jim




[ql-users] Re: positioning windows

2002-05-16 Thread Wolfgang Uhlig

Hi James,

It has been suggested that it is because the window position is relative 
to the cursor, even when I do an absolute address.  This sounds familiar 
and I think that I had this problem before and figured it out.  However, 
I seem to be stuck again.

I've got no clue of C68 or assembly programming but I know that what you describe, is 
NOT the 
normal case. I have been using EasyPtr (Albin Hessler) for years now and every wanted 
positioning 
works very well, before, after resizing, after a wake etc. May be you can have a look 
at the source 
code of Albin to overcome your problem?!

Much luck, 

Wolfgang





[ql-users] Quanta Editor

2002-05-16 Thread Nicholls, Bruce
Title: Quanta Editor





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RE: [ql-users] Quanta Editor

2002-05-16 Thread Norman Dunbar

Congratulations Bruce.
Have fun.

Norman.

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Re: [ql-users] Source Code

2002-05-16 Thread Richard Zidlicky


...

 3/ No distribution of SMSQ/E may be SOLD, except 
 for the official distribution. This interdiction 
 includes that of including and distributing 
 SMSQ/E in Public domain libraries.
 
 Official distributions will be sold in compiled 
 (binary) form, possibly together with the 
 official distribution as source code. For such 
 sales, for the time being, two 
 distributors/resellers, namely Jochen MERZ (JMS) 
 and Roy WOOD (QBRANCH) have been appointed by 
 the copyright holder. Resellers provide support 
 for the versions sold by them. 
 
...

can you say me how exactly the license requires
the resellers to provide support? In our private 
discussion you went to great lengths to ensure me
how they are required to provide support but I can't 
find absolutely nothing specific about it in this 
license.
Specifically you have promised me that the resellers
will be required to fix bugs and hire people for it
if they can't do it themselves.

Personally I am very disappointed by this license.

Lets call things by name. It is not a license but 
a non-disclosure agreement - why you insist calling 
it licence is beyound me. You would probably save
yourself and others lots of trouble if you would look 
at some proper commercial NDA.

Usually a license would give me some rights, this 
strange elaborate only gives me the revocable right 
to read the code.

It is also worth noting that the license is subject
to change anytime without giving anyone even the
slightest guarantees what the next license will look 
like. This means that anyone who will want to do
something with SMSQ will have to seek separate 
agreements with all other copyright holders, not 
a pretty situation.

The license says the code is copyright TT. This a void 
claim which only describes the current state. The license 
is designed to taint SMSQ by 3d party code. There is 
absolutely no protection against patent traps, the 
possibility to include code without publicaly available 
source invites all sorts of copyright trouble and there
is also the separate agreements I have mentioned above.

The license doesn't say it, but from personal emails 
with Wolfgang I conclude that there are people who want 
to write code for SMSQ in exchange for future royalty 
payments.
There is nothing evil about commercial software development 
but we have a few problems here. There is no choice for 
the users and other developpers whether they want this 
3d party commercial code. A bigger problem here is that 
some of the developers who want to write SMSQ code for 
commercial interests also decide about the license, 
basically this license is their work. For me this is 
an unfortunate combination, it is a guarantee that 
SMSQ will never be even close to opensource.

Philosophically this is a very interesting concept: People 
who would like to contribute for free do not even get the 
right to use their contribution, those who will contribute 
commercially and seek separate agreements will also receive 
a share in the decissionmaking of the copyright/licensing 
as a reward.

Interestingly, not all legitimate commercial interests 
are served equally humbly here. When Peter Graf tried 
to acquire the right to give away (for free) SMSQ-Q40 
binaries in exchange for a substantial payment to TT 
he was turned down (not because he offered too little 
money btw).
This means that Peter has no means to ensure that SMSQ 
will be available for the Q40/Q60 in the future - and
that after having invested horrendeous amounts of money 
into SMSQ development for functionality that isn't even
implemented until today. Sorry to say but this is just 
racketeering. 

Given this precedens it also means that other HW developpers 
would be completely insane to invest money or effort into 
SMSQ without special agreements that will only make the 
overall situation worse.

Wolfgang you are welcome to give us your *guarantees*
that I am wrong.

Last not least, there is the purely practical braindamage 
of the licence. I did quite frequently write drivers for
HW which I didn't have installed myself, with SMSQ I would
be required to smail the source changes for each development
cycle to someone having the hardware - I am not even allowed 
to S P E L L the changes over phone line!! 
Not that I would consider touching the code with a 100 ft 
pole.
If there is 1 good thing about NDA's than its that a closed 
circle of developers can work relatively free of any hassle. 
Wolfgang has managed to combine the worst of all possible 
licenses here.

Also the license has interesting holes. Supposedly SMSQ is 
sold in exchange for giving support, but what is with 
unfinished products? What happens when there is nobody who 
would be willing or able to give support and sell SMSQ?

I have explained Wolfgang privately why there will never 
be SMSQ for UQLX with this license. Even if someone does 
the necessary changes there will be nobody to sell the 
binary. Neither Jochen Merz nor Roy Wood can not do it 
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Re: [ql-users] Re: positioning windows

2002-05-16 Thread Dilwyn Jones

 I've got no clue of C68 or assembly programming but I know that what
you describe, is NOT the
 normal case. I have been using EasyPtr (Albin Hessler) for years now
and every wanted positioning
 works very well, before, after resizing, after a wake etc. May be
you can have a look at the source
 code of Albin to overcome your problem?!

Not always. It mostly works, but some of my Easyptr programs do appear
at almost random positions after certain events. I've tried the
absolute and relative positionings and can't really pin down a firm
reason. Obviously seems to depend on what you use and how you do it.
Like life.

--
Dilwyn Jones
[EMAIL PROTECTED]
http://www.soft.net.uk/dj/index.html




[ql-users] Minerva manual online?

2002-05-16 Thread Richard Zidlicky

Hi,

an UQLX user asked me where he could get Minerva manuals.
Any advice?

Richard



Re: [ql-users] Quanta Editor

2002-05-16 Thread Malcolm Cadman

In article [EMAIL PROTECTED]
, Nicholls, Bruce [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes

I am now the new editor of the Quanta Magazine if you have any articles/news
you would like to submit please use the address/email  telephone number
supplied below as the one in the latest Quanta magazine was published in
error. Most Formats QL/PC now accepted.

Good luck with the mag !

-- 
Malcolm Cadman



Re: [ql-users] Quanta Editor

2002-05-16 Thread Stephen Meech
Title: Quanta Editor



Congratulations and good luck.

Regards

Stephen

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Re: [ql-users] Quanta Editor

2002-05-16 Thread Mike MacNamara
Title: Quanta Editor



Congratulations and all the best of luck, thanks 
for fixing the link, seems to work fine, but why am I getting 3 copies of 
everything on this list?


Regards

Mike 

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www.macnamaras.com

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I am now the new editor of the Quanta Magazine if you have 
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