Re: [ql-users] QL Forum
Hi, everybody, I was a little bit startled by the reaction of Nasta, who wants to sell his QXL for $100,-! Sorry for being so generous ;-) , but the three QXLs I offer have been working for about 3- 4 years in a bicycle shop here in Holland which I had written an administration program for. They (the shop owners) sold their shop recently and the new owners of course)have a PC-network. But they were at least so friendly as to ask me, whether I wanted to have the QXLs. I could not resist :-) So, there are 5 people who like to have one. My preference is for Dave Dexter, Dokos Phoebus and Al Feng, don't ask me why. But You will have to pay the costs for sending it to you. I don't know yet how much it will be, so be patient for one more day. Tomorrow I'll go to the post office with a well packed QXL and ask how much it will cost to England or USA. As soon as I know, I will post an e-mail to the QLusers group and tell you. If you still want it, we will have to find out, how to manage the money-stuff. Until then, Wolfgang
Re: [ql-users] QL Forum
On Mon, Apr 08, 2002 at 06:15:39PM +0200, Wolfgang Uhlig wrote: Hi, I am moderately optimistic about GTK, next version of it is rumored to be able to run on simple framebuffer devices and that would be very simple to do in QDOS. Richard I'm new in the users-group, Richard (or who else), what is GTK? graphical/widget/windowing toolkit, formerly gimp-toolkit. There should be www.gtk.org.. if not find a link from gnome.org. Und Richard, warum kommst du nie mehr nach Eindhoven? I was skiing in France at that time.. it was the only 3 weeks they had good snow this year so nothing that could be done. Richard
Re: [ql-users] QL Forum
On Wed, 10 Apr 2002 at 23:18:50, Dexter wrote: (ref: [EMAIL PROTECTED]) Oh, for heaven's sake, why would you need a custom transformer? My dear Nasta, have you become so disillusioned that you don't see the *fun* in winding yer own transformer? ;P It's a great way to pass an evening :o) ... much like tapestry or knitting (8-)# QBBS (QL fido BBS 2:252/67) +44(0)1442-828255 tony@surname,demon.co.uk http://www.firshman.demon.co.uk Voice: +44(0)1442-828254 Fax: +44(0)1442-828255 TF Services, 29 Longfield Road, TRING, Herts, HP23 4DG
Re: [ql-users] QL Forum
At 12:15 ìì 8/4/2002, you wrote: Hi, I am moderately optimistic about GTK, next version of it is rumored to be able to run on simple framebuffer devices and that would be very simple to do in QDOS. Richard I'm new in the users-group, Richard (or who else), what is GTK? GTK means GiMP ToolKit IIRC... (From the Gnu Image Manipulation Program...: GiMP) Phoebus
Re: [ql-users] QL Forum
On Thu, 11 Apr 2002 at 14:17:54, Phoebus Dokos wrote: (ref: [EMAIL PROTECTED]) At 12:15 ìì 8/4/2002, you wrote: Who?^ This is something I got pulled up (rightly) on quite a while back. This attribute is fine for personal email, but is not good in a public area. I bet it is configurable - my mailer allows %c character substitutions to construct any weird and wonderful attribute you want. Mine is very boring but has your name, Phoebus (8-)# -- QBBS (QL fido BBS 2:252/67) +44(0)1442-828255 tony@surname,demon.co.uk http://www.firshman.demon.co.uk Voice: +44(0)1442-828254 Fax: +44(0)1442-828255 TF Services, 29 Longfield Road, TRING, Herts, HP23 4DG
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At 05:45 ìì 11/4/2002, Tony Firshman, hardware guru extraordinaire, wrote:
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How about this---| better? {:-D
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On Thu, 11 Apr 2002 at 14:17:54, Phoebus Dokos wrote:
(ref: [EMAIL PROTECTED])
At 12:15 ìì 8/4/2002, you wrote:
Who?^
This is something I got pulled up (rightly) on quite a while back.
This attribute is fine for personal email, but is not good in a public
area. I bet it is configurable - my mailer allows %c character
substitutions to construct any weird and wonderful attribute you want.
Mine is very boring but has your name, Phoebus (8-)#
Aside the jokes, I know, but due to a restructuring of my Opera files (due
to the continuous development of the Greek version), I have reverted to
using Eudora for the moment (where you have to manually edit the response
string... or at least I don't know where the heck it can be found)... Will
you forgive me for just a little longer - I do try to edit them but being
Greek (and therefore very hasty I forget) ?? (Please please please???:-)
Phoebus
Re: [ql-users] QL Forum
On 08/04/02 at 21:26 Dexter wrote: However a European PSU will work with a US QL if you use a step up transformer... I've seen transformer winding kits up to the job for $20 in a local parts outlet. Could be fun - been ages since I last wound a custom transformer :o) Oh, for heaven's sake, why would you need a custom transformer? Step-up's are available in every shape and size from many places. Also, with dozens and dozens of 'old stuff' distributors in the US I'm sure you can find any type of transformer you care to immagine (www.alltronics.com, www.meci.com, www.jameco.com, etc, ect) P.S. Damn that 6 Gb drive takes forever to format with QubIDE ;-) How long would the 80 gigger I just bought take then? Hopefully, it'll be quicker on the SuperIDE :o) Fraid not, at least not for a while. Nothing to do with xxxIDE, but with the speed of the QL's 8-bit bus. The peak bandwidth is only 1.8MB/sec and even a bit less with GC/SGC. All of this really to cater for the 8301 video ULA. Even with Aurora, which is capable of about 5.5MB/s things get stuck at 1.8 because the GC/SGC deliberately slow down when communicating through the QL bus, just in case there is a 8301 somewhere - even if it's in the spare parts bin :-) GF's IO protocol is software-customizeable, and can push the 8-bit bus very far (probably too far) - in theory, up to 12MB/sec but that's still only ATAPI PIO3 or so, IF signal integrity on the bus remains sufficient. Nasta
Re: [ql-users] QL Forum
On Wed, 10 Apr 2002, ZN wrote: On 08/04/02 at 21:26 Dexter wrote: However a European PSU will work with a US QL if you use a step up transformer... I've seen transformer winding kits up to the job for $20 in a local parts outlet. Could be fun - been ages since I last wound a custom transformer :o) Oh, for heaven's sake, why would you need a custom transformer? My dear Nasta, have you become so disillusioned that you don't see the *fun* in winding yer own transformer? ;P It's a great way to pass an evening :o) SNIP too much info about GF It's nice that's you've made progress to the point of having hard figures and specific details. It's reassuring. :o) If there's anything we can do to help, let us know. Dave (busily working away)
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On Sat, Apr 06, 2002 at 03:21:05PM -0500, Phoebus Dokos wrote: ??? 6/4/2002 3:10:11 ìì, ?/? Bill Waugh [EMAIL PROTECTED] ??: Qpaintshop Pro Now why would you want a PaintShop Pro clone on the QL...? Paintshop is one of the worse graphics programs I've ever used (and trust me I know my way around gfx ;-) Now if you told me Photoshop or Fractal Design Painter yeah! I am with you! Heck the GiMP is great as well (No GTK in sight though Unless Thierry is constructively spending his time in the sea ;-))) I am moderately optimistic about GTK, next version of it is rumored to be able to run on simple framebuffer devices and that would be very simple to do in QDOS. GIMP itself may need a little more than this - for example virtual memory to be useful. Richard
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In article [EMAIL PROTECTED], Dexter [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes On Sun, 7 Apr 2002, Malcolm Cadman wrote: Probably best to have a look, then. Although I am a great believer in alternatives ... it makes for more challenges. Well here's the plan: The program has a config file with sensible defaults. The first time it's run it asks for your name, email address, POP3 and SMTP servers. It asks if you want to set up a .sig file. After that, and immediately for all subsequent executions, it goes to the folder display. This gives you access to your inbox, outbox, and archived mail in month-by-month folders. Archived mail is compressed. It will as far as possible use pine keypresses to do thing, providing a useful subset of functionality. It will do everything plain text. If it receives email in HTML format, it will strip out or obey the tags the best it can. If there's a MIME or UUE attachment it will understand it, and you can save that attachment as a file. I'm looking at ways to reliably transfer header info. Very interesting outline ... you have been planning :-) What are you going to code it in ... C ? ... and I guess its an American power supply that you need ? Yes. I will be doing an ATX - QL adaptor at some point, but it's a case opening job, so many won't like it. However, ATM I have a QL I can't use, though I understand a PSU is available for me - I just have to contact someone and arrange it. Well, if you ever visit England I've got lots of them ... that have been donated to the London Quanta Group. They are too heavy to economically post. -- Malcolm Cadman
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On Mon, 8 Apr 2002, Malcolm Cadman wrote: Very interesting outline ... you have been planning :-) Yes. It's hard to do anything more than planning without ethernet and a TCP/IP stack ;) What are you going to code it in ... C ? Initially, SBASIC, and then in C once I'm happy with how it works. I'm happier with C but have never done any on the QL, whereas SBASIC is a quicker throw-it-together-and-test-it language :o) It's not like email clients have to be fast, anyway. Well, if you ever visit England I've got lots of them ... that have been donated to the London Quanta Group. They are too heavy to economically post. I wonder. Do the transformers in QL PSUs have 120 and 240v windings, or did they use a different transformer for each region? Dave ql.spodmail.com (New posts by Nasta in the forum, with latest news on the Goldfire, Aurora 2 and SuperIDE/EtherIDE - check it out!)
Re: [ql-users] QL Forum
At 04:08 ìì 8/4/2002, the Daveman wrote: Initially, SBASIC, and then in C once I'm happy with how it works. I'm happier with C but have never done any on the QL, whereas SBASIC is a quicker throw-it-together-and-test-it language :o) It's not like email clients have to be fast, anyway. I am not sure if Jon's QLTCP has an SBasic I/F ... maybe you will have to resort to access it using the tried and true Peek/Poke S*Basic interface ;-) Well, if you ever visit England I've got lots of them ... that have been donated to the London Quanta Group. They are too heavy to economically post. I wonder. Do the transformers in QL PSUs have 120 and 240v windings, or did they use a different transformer for each region? Different from what I recall However a European PSU will work with a US QL if you use a step up transformer... Phoebus P.S. Damn that 6 Gb drive takes forever to format with QubIDE ;-)
Re: [ql-users] QL Forum
On Mon, 8 Apr 2002, Phoebus Dokos wrote: I am not sure if Jon's QLTCP has an SBasic I/F ... maybe you will have to resort to access it using the tried and true Peek/Poke S*Basic interface ;-) If the worst comes to the worst, I would write some kind of front end for it, but that's distraction from my core business - getting new things out there :o) However a European PSU will work with a US QL if you use a step up transformer... I've seen transformer winding kits up to the job for $20 in a local parts outlet. Could be fun - been ages since I last wound a custom transformer :o) P.S. Damn that 6 Gb drive takes forever to format with QubIDE ;-) How long would the 80 gigger I just bought take then? Hopefully, it'll be quicker on the SuperIDE :o) Dave ql.spodmail.com
Re: [ql-users] QL Forum
On Mon, 8 Apr 2002 at 19:31:27, Malcolm Cadman wrote: (ref: GawSgHA$[EMAIL PROTECTED]) Well, if you ever visit England I've got lots of them ... that have been donated to the London Quanta Group. They are too heavy to economically post. Who donated you lots of 110 ac power supplies with US plugs, or are you forgetting that he lives in the USA (8-)# -- QBBS (QL fido BBS 2:252/67) +44(0)1442-828255 tony@surname,demon.co.uk http://www.firshman.demon.co.uk Voice: +44(0)1442-828254 Fax: +44(0)1442-828255 TF Services, 29 Longfield Road, TRING, Herts, HP23 4DG
Re: [ql-users] QL Forum
On Mon, 8 Apr 2002 at 21:08:25, Dexter wrote: (ref: [EMAIL PROTECTED]) Well, if you ever visit England I've got lots of them ... that have been donated to the London Quanta Group. They are too heavy to economically post. I wonder. Do the transformers in QL PSUs have 120 and 240v windings, or did they use a different transformer for each region? They don't - I think Malcolm was confused. -- QBBS (QL fido BBS 2:252/67) +44(0)1442-828255 tony@surname,demon.co.uk http://www.firshman.demon.co.uk Voice: +44(0)1442-828254 Fax: +44(0)1442-828255 TF Services, 29 Longfield Road, TRING, Herts, HP23 4DG
Re: [ql-users] QL Forum
On Mon, 8 Apr 2002, Malcolm Cadman wrote: In addition you should find C68 on the QL easy to adapt to. If using it is anything like using GCC, I'll be fine... ql.spodmail.com (New posts by Nasta in the forum, with latest news on the Goldfire, Aurora 2 and SuperIDE/EtherIDE - check it out!) The site was down when I looked last night. Did you type www. in front of it? It was definitely up last night. I was sat there nursing it through a storm - we had 15 inches of rain last night, and some hail too. Texas is grand when it comes to extreme weather. Luckily, the power was only out for about 20 minutes, and the UPSes can hold out for about 35 minutes. It was a very pretty storm though :o) Dave ql.spodmail.com
Re: [ql-users] QL Forum
In article [EMAIL PROTECTED], Tony Firshman [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes On Mon, 8 Apr 2002 at 19:31:27, Malcolm Cadman wrote: (ref: GawSgHA$[EMAIL PROTECTED]) Well, if you ever visit England I've got lots of them ... that have been donated to the London Quanta Group. They are too heavy to economically post. Who donated you lots of 110 ac power supplies with US plugs, or are you forgetting that he lives in the USA (8-)# He .. he .. I meant UK ones :-) -- Malcolm Cadman
Re: [ql-users] QL Forum
In article [EMAIL PROTECTED], Dexter [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes On Mon, 8 Apr 2002, Malcolm Cadman wrote: In addition you should find C68 on the QL easy to adapt to. If using it is anything like using GCC, I'll be fine... You will ... ql.spodmail.com (New posts by Nasta in the forum, with latest news on the Goldfire, Aurora 2 and SuperIDE/EtherIDE - check it out!) The site was down when I looked last night. Did you type www. in front of it? It was definitely up last night. I was sat there nursing it through a storm - we had 15 inches of rain last night, and some hail too. Texas is grand when it comes to extreme weather. Luckily, the power was only out for about 20 minutes, and the UPSes can hold out for about 35 minutes. It was a very pretty storm though :o) Wow ! ... I guess everything in Texas is big then :-) Also given the time difference, my 'last night' was probably your morning. -- Malcolm Cadman
Re: [ql-users] QL Forum
On Mon, 8 Apr 2002 at 22:10:09, Dexter wrote: (ref: [EMAIL PROTECTED]) On Mon, 8 Apr 2002, Malcolm Cadman wrote: In addition you should find C68 on the QL easy to adapt to. If using it is anything like using GCC, I'll be fine... ql.spodmail.com (New posts by Nasta in the forum, with latest news on the Goldfire, Aurora 2 and SuperIDE/EtherIDE - check it out!) The site was down when I looked last night. Did you type www. in front of it? It was definitely up last night. I was sat there nursing it through a storm - we had 15 inches of rain last night, and some hail too. Texas is grand when it comes to extreme weather. Luckily, the power was only out for about 20 minutes, and the UPSes can hold out for about 35 minutes. It was a very pretty storm though :o) I won't forget the flight across the USA a few years back between the East and West coast QL shows. We had the most amazing aerial view of storms below us. That was the time when a plane was hit and crashed somewhere in the Rockies, I think. The US certainly does have grand storms, but it is a big place (8-)# -- QBBS (QL fido BBS 2:252/67) +44(0)1442-828255 tony@surname,demon.co.uk http://www.firshman.demon.co.uk Voice: +44(0)1442-828254 Fax: +44(0)1442-828255 TF Services, 29 Longfield Road, TRING, Herts, HP23 4DG
Re: [ql-users] QL Forum
Hi, I am moderately optimistic about GTK, next version of it is rumored to be able to run on simple framebuffer devices and that would be very simple to do in QDOS. Richard I'm new in the users-group, Richard (or who else), what is GTK? Und Richard, warum kommst du nie mehr nach Eindhoven? Wolfgang Uhlig
Re: [ql-users] QL Forum
In message [EMAIL PROTECTED], Dexter [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes On Mon, 8 Apr 2002, Malcolm Cadman wrote: Wow ! ... I guess everything in Texas is big then :-) Well, TX weather is a case of extremes. There's warm and humid air circulating up from the gulf of Mexico, and cold, dry air coming down from alaska/canada... They meet in a spectacular line that spawns terrific storms, tornados, hail that has been known to put bullet holes in the tops of peoples' heads, and often 12 inches of rain in one hour, causing flash floods that are more than rising water, and literally like the rumble in the distance that appears as a wave six foot high. I live on high ground. :o) A wise man, then :-) Also given the time difference, my 'last night' was probably your morning. I can see a couple of people tried to access www.ql.spodmail.com and one person (I won't name you, but I know who you are!) tried to access ql.spodmail.com/qeyboard and ql.spodmail.com/goldfire *tsk tsk* It's http://ql.spodmail.com/ Yes, just logged on OK this evening ... and registered. A very neatly done Forum that you have created. -- Malcolm Cadman
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On Mon, 8 Apr 2002, Malcolm Cadman wrote: A very neatly done Forum that you have created. Thank you - but I didn't create it - I just installed, configured and expanded it a little. :o) If anyone has any ideas for forums they'd like to see there, and especially if they'd like to moderate their own forums, please let me know. Dave http://ql.spodmail.com/
Re: [ql-users] QL Forum
In article 3X6Z6PNNJ6ZMJPL07DCWVMURIF1XB8.3cae130a@quantum-central, Phoebus Dokos [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes 5/4/2002 4:05:54 ??, / Malcolm Cadman [EMAIL PROTECTED] : In article [EMAIL PROTECTED], Dexter [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes On Thu, 4 Apr 2002, Phoebus Dokos wrote: Well i am not using the forum because last I checked the site was down :-) You mean the day the CSU/DSU blew up, poof, and I had to go out and spend boucoup bucks on a new one? :o( Everything's fine now :o) What is the address again ? -- Malcolm Cadman http://ql.spodmail.com OK ... it will now go in the favourites :-) -- Malcolm Cadman
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In article [EMAIL PROTECTED], Dexter [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes On Sat, 6 Apr 2002, Phoebus Dokos wrote: Qmail Exists... Ask J. Dent for more :-) Well, mine'll probably be called Qemail (pronounced keymail) to match the Qeyboard (pronounced, well, you know ;) Nice idea of 'namimg' :-) ... Jon's work needs a good interface attached to it to become a 'useable by all' emailer. Assuming that you will be basing it on Jon's TCP/IP code ... if you really are planning something :-) -- Malcolm Cadman
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In article [EMAIL PROTECTED], Dexter [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes Qmail Hmmm, I do have to do something there. I've written an email client before. If I do something, it will end up looking like pine. Qbrowser Even the most basic browser is a huge undertaking. This would have to be a group effort. Well you did ask That'll teach me :o) Tarquin has already started to write a browser in beta form for the QL - he is also a RISC OS user - I have forgotten what he calls it. I have a copy, yet it doesn't work for me :-( ... anyone got it working ? It is only text at present. -- Malcolm Cadman
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Tarquin has already started to write a browser in beta form for the QL - he is also a RISC OS user - I have forgotten what he calls it. Hyperbrowser I have a copy, yet it doesn't work for me :-( ... anyone got it working ? Yes, all but one version I could only get to work with text. He has (or was plannign to?) use Photon to display JPEGs but I don't think I got hold of this version. I seem to remember it relied on a version of Photon which was able to have filenames for display passed as a parameter and I'm not sure that existed then (i.e. did Tarquin get it working or was it just a feature he'd put in ready for when Dave Westbury got that to work in Photon). It is only text at present. That's a start at least. Text browsers are a bit useless in the modern graphics-driven internet but at least Lynx and HyperBrowser form something from which to start from once soql becomes reality (if ever Jon Dent sorts his Linux systems out - I think he was having problems with a Linux system he was setting up to test and debug soql). There was another QL text-only browser called QMosaic too. If you could find a version which worked on your system, it worked rather well as a text-only browser. Trouble was, of all the versions I came across (and I have 2 or 3) they were a bit fussy as to which QL system they'd run on. Any graphical QL browser would need to be able to handle much of what the internet currently thrusts upon us - reasonably fast display of various graphics format like PNG, JPEG, and GIF. Or at the very least be sufficiently capable of putting a square in the display where the graphic is to go and a 'Click On This To View This Graphic' as the next step up from text browsers. One way would be for this 'Click To View' thingy to call up a graphics viewer like PhotoQL or Photon via FileInfo 2 and over time a library of file viewers would be available, so that even if browser development stopped external viewers etc (plug-ins???) allowed some advancement. We also need a first GD2 graphics program. No need to be PaintSlap Pro or whatever, just a little something along the lines of earlier QL graphics programs which allow you to draw some simple graphics. It does go to show that although up until now we have had adequate software development tools to produce reasonable software, GD2 has not had the support tools necessary to plough ahead with good software. Yes, the Q40 has brought some good programs, but to some extent they are specific to Q40, or are only at their best on a Q40/Q60. How I look forward to QPTR and EasyPtr being GD2-aware for example. Wolfgang Uhlig recently sent me a cute little GD2 program called QcoLour which helps with the development of hues and shades on high colour systems, and I think is the first or one of the first QL program to use 'skins' or user definable backgrounds (nice colour ripples and textures). A neat little splash of colour. Simon Goodwin, for example, has been doing some good work with his Digicam software, so people with some Kodak cameras can download and handle camera graphics on a QDOS system. The capability is there, but we have to remember it's talented individuals working in their spare time and mostly for free. -- Dilwyn Jones [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://www.soft.net.uk/dj/index.html
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On Sun, 7 Apr 2002, Malcolm Cadman wrote: Nice idea of 'namimg' :-) ... Jon's work needs a good interface attached to it to become a 'useable by all' emailer. I haven't seen his work. However, the mail client I plan to do will be functional, text-based, and probably fully open source. Assuming that you will be basing it on Jon's TCP/IP code ... if you really are planning something :-) I'm really planning to do it. Not having a power supply for my QL is the biggest challenge to doing anything! ;) Dave ql.spodmail.com
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I'm really planning to do it. Not having a power supply for my QL is the biggest challenge to doing anything! ;) Dave ql.spodmail.com Dave did you contact François Lanciault yet for the PSU? Phoebus
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On Sun, 7 Apr 2002, Phoebus Dokos wrote: Dave did you contact François Lanciault yet for the PSU? No. I don't know who that is :o) Sounds like I missed something when I should have been paying attention. Could you email their contact details privately? :*) Dave ql.spodmail.com
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At 02:33 ìì 7/4/2002, you wrote: On Sun, 7 Apr 2002, Phoebus Dokos wrote: Dave did you contact François Lanciault yet for the PSU? No. I don't know who that is :o) Sounds like I missed something when I should have been paying attention. Could you email their contact details privately? :*) Dave ql.spodmail.com Hold on... coming via separate email RIGHT UP :-) Phoebus
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In message 009f01c1de51$006f5ca0$20065cc3@default, Dilwyn Jones [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes Tarquin has already started to write a browser in beta form for the QL - he is also a RISC OS user - I have forgotten what he calls it. Hyperbrowser Ah ... yes, that's the one :-) I have a copy, yet it doesn't work for me :-( ... anyone got it working ? Yes, all but one version I could only get to work with text. He has (or was plannign to?) use Photon to display JPEGs but I don't think I got hold of this version. I seem to remember it relied on a version of Photon which was able to have filenames for display passed as a parameter and I'm not sure that existed then (i.e. did Tarquin get it working or was it just a feature he'd put in ready for when Dave Westbury got that to work in Photon). It is only text at present. That's a start at least. Text browsers are a bit useless in the modern graphics-driven internet but at least Lynx and HyperBrowser form something from which to start from once soql becomes reality (if ever Jon Dent sorts his Linux systems out - I think he was having problems with a Linux system he was setting up to test and debug soql). There was another QL text-only browser called QMosaic too. If you could find a version which worked on your system, it worked rather well as a text-only browser. Trouble was, of all the versions I came across (and I have 2 or 3) they were a bit fussy as to which QL system they'd run on. Yes, that seems to be the core of it, at present ... exactly which system it will run on. However, it is still early days ... Any graphical QL browser would need to be able to handle much of what the internet currently thrusts upon us - reasonably fast display of various graphics format like PNG, JPEG, and GIF. Or at the very least be sufficiently capable of putting a square in the display where the graphic is to go and a 'Click On This To View This Graphic' as the next step up from text browsers. One way would be for this 'Click To View' thingy to call up a graphics viewer like PhotoQL or Photon via FileInfo 2 and over time a library of file viewers would be available, so that even if browser development stopped external viewers etc (plug-ins???) allowed some advancement. Download speed needs to be good, for graphics. Although many are not a problem to display if the site authors have taken the trouble to correspond the file size to the graphic display size. Unfortuneatley many sites have graphics that have been 'slung up'. We also need a first GD2 graphics program. No need to be PaintSlap Pro or whatever, just a little something along the lines of earlier QL graphics programs which allow you to draw some simple graphics. The parts for this seem to be coming together now that graphics can be done well on a QDOS / SMSQ base. I know that Chris Cave is working on an excellent technical drawing program - called 'Drawing', as I am working on writing the manual for it :-) So, the QL can do graphics, and and it very well ! It does go to show that although up until now we have had adequate software development tools to produce reasonable software, GD2 has not had the support tools necessary to plough ahead with good software. Yes, the Q40 has brought some good programs, but to some extent they are specific to Q40, or are only at their best on a Q40/Q60. How I look forward to QPTR and EasyPtr being GD2-aware for example. I have not seen what has been done for the Q40/Q60. Wolfgang Uhlig recently sent me a cute little GD2 program called QcoLour which helps with the development of hues and shades on high colour systems, and I think is the first or one of the first QL program to use 'skins' or user definable backgrounds (nice colour ripples and textures). A neat little splash of colour. Yes, I have downloaded that ... the examples are impressive. Although it does now show up the poor quality of the fonts. Simon Goodwin, for example, has been doing some good work with his Digicam software, so people with some Kodak cameras can download and handle camera graphics on a QDOS system. The capability is there, but we have to remember it's talented individuals working in their spare time and mostly for free. That is it ... yet it is fun :-) -- Malcolm Cadman
Re: [ql-users] QL Forum
In message [EMAIL PROTECTED], Dexter [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes On Sun, 7 Apr 2002, Malcolm Cadman wrote: Nice idea of 'namimg' :-) ... Jon's work needs a good interface attached to it to become a 'useable by all' emailer. I haven't seen his work. However, the mail client I plan to do will be functional, text-based, and probably fully open source. Probably best to have a look, then. Although I am a great believer in alternatives ... it makes for more challenges. Assuming that you will be basing it on Jon's TCP/IP code ... if you really are planning something :-) I'm really planning to do it. Not having a power supply for my QL is the biggest challenge to doing anything! ;) Good ! ... and I guess its an American power supply that you need ? -- Malcolm Cadman
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In message [EMAIL PROTECTED], Dexter [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes On Fri, 5 Apr 2002, Tony Firshman wrote: Well I tried that. I registered, and it then invited me to login using user name and password. Considering I had never registered a password, that was difficult (8-)# It emails the password to you, and you can change it later. Anyway, it's already a failed idea, so I'll work on something else. Like, maybe, some advertising material for the Qeyboard :o) Actually I realise that The forum bit is different. I was referring to ql-chat which I tried to log onto and have yet to receive a message on. -- Roy Wood Q Branch, 20 Locks Hill Portslade. Sussex. BN41 2LB. UK Tel : +44 (0)1273 386030 Fax : +44 (0)1273 430501 (New number!) Mobile +44(0)7836 745501 Web : www.qbranch.demon.co.uk
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On Sun, 7 Apr 2002, Malcolm Cadman wrote: Probably best to have a look, then. Although I am a great believer in alternatives ... it makes for more challenges. Well here's the plan: The program has a config file with sensible defaults. The first time it's run it asks for your name, email address, POP3 and SMTP servers. It asks if you want to set up a .sig file. After that, and immediately for all subsequent executions, it goes to the folder display. This gives you access to your inbox, outbox, and archived mail in month-by-month folders. Archived mail is compressed. It will as far as possible use pine keypresses to do thing, providing a useful subset of functionality. It will do everything plain text. If it receives email in HTML format, it will strip out or obey the tags the best it can. If there's a MIME or UUE attachment it will understand it, and you can save that attachment as a file. I'm looking at ways to reliably transfer header info. ... and I guess its an American power supply that you need ? Yes. I will be doing an ATX - QL adaptor at some point, but it's a case opening job, so many won't like it. However, ATM I have a QL I can't use, though I understand a PSU is available for me - I just have to contact someone and arrange it. Dave ql.spodmail.com
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On Sun, 7 Apr 2002, Roy Wood wrote: Actually I realise that The forum bit is different. I was referring to ql-chat which I tried to log onto and have yet to receive a message on. qlchat is on sabbatical. :o) I'm reorganizing everything on the servers here. I now have a separate mail server, and am reconfiguring dozens of apps to work with the new MTA (Exim). Unfortunately, the lists are a medium priority so they won't be back until probably the middle of the week. The main server, 'box', is having a major upgrade and refit next week too. After that, I will have a secure and stable environment that I can grow with... It's only taking so long because of my insistence on using Linux instead of anything Microsoft - it's quite a learning curve. Dave ql.spodmail.com
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- Original Message - From: Dexter [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: QL Users [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Friday, April 05, 2002 2:47 AM Subject: [ql-users] QL Forum Hi all, Well, I'm scratching my head... I really want to do something constructive for the QL community. I'm working on the soon-to-be-released Qeyboard. I've done some work on a QL ethernet interface, which is now incorporated into Qubide 2 as etheride... And I set up a forum that nobody uses... :o) I have a web server sat here 99.9% idle, and it's up for whatever people have actual use for. It looks like the QL forum is not a hit. So, what is needed? Tell me, and I'll do my best. :o) Qpaintshop Pro Qmail Qbrowser Well you did ask All the best - Bill
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On Sat, 6 Apr 2002, Phoebus Dokos wrote: Qmail Exists... Ask J. Dent for more :-) Well, mine'll probably be called Qemail (pronounced keymail) to match the Qeyboard (pronounced, well, you know ;) Qbrowser Exists... See QL - Lynx (If you really want to use it though you gotta have a TCP enabled QL (currently only uQLx does that...)... It's a bit of a stretch thinking of lynx as a web browser in the full sense of the word these days. I am hoping we may be able to produce something that can present graphics, tables, and hopefully handle sound too :o) Dave ql.spodmail.com
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In article [EMAIL PROTECTED], Dexter [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes On Thu, 4 Apr 2002, Phoebus Dokos wrote: Well i am not using the forum because last I checked the site was down :-) You mean the day the CSU/DSU blew up, poof, and I had to go out and spend boucoup bucks on a new one? :o( Everything's fine now :o) What is the address again ? -- Malcolm Cadman
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Ôçí 5/4/2002 4:05:54 ??, ï/ç Malcolm Cadman [EMAIL PROTECTED] Ýãñáøå: In article [EMAIL PROTECTED], Dexter [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes On Thu, 4 Apr 2002, Phoebus Dokos wrote: Well i am not using the forum because last I checked the site was down :-) You mean the day the CSU/DSU blew up, poof, and I had to go out and spend boucoup bucks on a new one? :o( Everything's fine now :o) What is the address again ? -- Malcolm Cadman http://ql.spodmail.com -- Phoebus R. Dokos - Quantum Leap Software Web and Graphic Design - Custom Program Solutions Tech Support - Software Localization Web: http://www.dokos-gr.net ICQ#:34196116 / SMS:+30973267887 SMS:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
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On Fri, 5 Apr 2002 at 16:11:38, Phoebus Dokos wrote: (ref: 3X6Z6PNNJ6ZMJPL07DCWVMURIF1XB8.3cae130a@quantum-central) 5/4/2002 4:05:54 ??, / Malcolm Cadman [EMAIL PROTECTED] : In article [EMAIL PROTECTED], Dexter [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes On Thu, 4 Apr 2002, Phoebus Dokos wrote: Well i am not using the forum because last I checked the site was down :-) You mean the day the CSU/DSU blew up, poof, and I had to go out and spend boucoup bucks on a new one? :o( Everything's fine now :o) What is the address again ? -- Malcolm Cadman http://ql.spodmail.com Well I tried that. I registered, and it then invited me to login using user name and password. Considering I had never registered a password, that was difficult (8-)# Ah well - no problem. I will get all info by email so that will do me for now. I would not log in to the forum much anyway - I much prefer the mailing list/usenet method. It is much easier all in one place. -- QBBS (QL fido BBS 2:252/67) +44(0)1442-828255 tony@surname,demon.co.uk http://www.firshman.demon.co.uk Voice: +44(0)1442-828254 Fax: +44(0)1442-828255 TF Services, 29 Longfield Road, TRING, Herts, HP23 4DG
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In message [EMAIL PROTECTED], Dexter [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes Hi all, Well, I'm scratching my head... I really want to do something constructive for the QL community. I'm working on the soon-to-be-released Qeyboard. I've done some work on a QL ethernet interface, which is now incorporated into Qubide 2 as etheride... And I set up a forum that nobody uses... :o) I have a web server sat here 99.9% idle, and it's up for whatever people have actual use for. It looks like the QL forum is not a hit. So, what is needed? Tell me, and I'll do my best. :o) I have tried to log onto the forum and I get no response. Have you a list of those registered ? -- Roy Wood Q Branch, 20 Locks Hill Portslade. Sussex. BN41 2LB. UK Tel : +44 (0)1273 386030 Fax : +44 (0)1273 430501 (New number!) Mobile +44(0)7836 745501 Web : www.qbranch.demon.co.uk
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On Fri, 5 Apr 2002, Tony Firshman wrote: Well I tried that. I registered, and it then invited me to login using user name and password. Considering I had never registered a password, that was difficult (8-)# It emails the password to you, and you can change it later. Anyway, it's already a failed idea, so I'll work on something else. Like, maybe, some advertising material for the Qeyboard :o) Dave ql.spodmail.com
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*** REPLY SEPARATOR *** On 06/04/02 at 02:50 Dexter wrote: [Developer forum] Anyway, it's already a failed idea, so I'll work on something else. Don't pronounce it dead yet... there are a couple of new topics. some advertising material for the Qeyboard :o) By all means. You've been very quiet lately (I know, pot, kettle, black, etc...) Nasta
[ql-users] QL Forum
Hi all, Well, I'm scratching my head... I really want to do something constructive for the QL community. I'm working on the soon-to-be-released Qeyboard. I've done some work on a QL ethernet interface, which is now incorporated into Qubide 2 as etheride... And I set up a forum that nobody uses... :o) I have a web server sat here 99.9% idle, and it's up for whatever people have actual use for. It looks like the QL forum is not a hit. So, what is needed? Tell me, and I'll do my best. :o) Dave ql.spodmail.com
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??? 4/4/2002 8:47:47 ìì, ?/? Dexter [EMAIL PROTECTED] ??: I have a web server sat here 99.9% idle, and it's up for whatever people have actual use for. It looks like the QL forum is not a hit. So, what is needed? Tell me, and I'll do my best. :o) Well i am not using the forum because last I checked the site was down :-) -- Phoebus R. Dokos - Quantum Leap Software Web and Graphic Design - Custom Program Solutions Tech Support - Software Localization Web: http://www.dokos-gr.net ICQ#:34196116 / SMS:+30973267887 SMS:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
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On Thu, 4 Apr 2002, Phoebus Dokos wrote: Well i am not using the forum because last I checked the site was down :-) You mean the day the CSU/DSU blew up, poof, and I had to go out and spend boucoup bucks on a new one? :o( Everything's fine now :o) Dave ql.spodmail.com
