[ql-users] Re: [ql-users] Re: [ql-users] Re: [ql-users] Re: [ql-users] Re: [ql-users] £ 1000 to spend! (2nd attempt!)

2004-03-19 Thread Tony Firshman
On Thu, 18 Mar 2004 at 22:45:55, Roy wood wrote: (ref: [EMAIL PROTECTED]) Qliberator was another story but Ian Stewart, who was my only contact, had only a small part in writing it. The other author, whose name escapes me, Adrian Soundy had long since disappeared and the sources were not

Re: [ql-users] Beginning a succesful QL journey

2004-03-19 Thread RWAPSoftware
In a message dated 19/03/2004 02:00:06 GMT Standard Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: Hi Stephen,Have been lurking here for a while, reading the various threads, alongwith looking at different websites, faqs etc. As a beginner, the QL worldseemed very complicated, with strangely named

Re: [ql-users] Re: Re: [ql-users] Re: [ql-users] Re: £ 0.00 to spend! (1st a...

2004-03-19 Thread RWAPSoftware
In a message dated 19/03/2004 11:17:31 GMT Standard Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: Huhu, dada. Kindergarten level reached at last, and Roy pulls out the intellectual waterpistol :-) Since the easiest way to escape that game level is the 'unsubscribe' command, I'll just use it

Re: [ql-users] Beginning a succesful QL journey

2004-03-19 Thread Tony Firshman
On Fri, 19 Mar 2004 at 06:16:31, wrote: (ref: [EMAIL PROTECTED]) In a message dated 19/03/2004 02:00:06 GMT Standard Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: snip   I have also been promised a couple of Miracle Systems hard disk drives which plug into the QLs ROM port.  Unfotrunately, this does not

Re: [ql-users] £ 0.00 to spend! (1s t attempt)

2004-03-19 Thread Geogwilt
In a message dated 18/03/04 16:57:35 GMT Standard Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: On 18 Mar 2004 at 9:24, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: You might try driving without tyres. But would that be driving? Wolfgang Bumpily - as without SMSQ/E. George

Re: [ql-users] Re: Re: [ql-users] Re: [ql-users] Re: £ 0.00 to spend! (1st ...

2004-03-19 Thread Geogwilt
In a message dated 19/03/04 11:35:27 GMT Standard Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: I stand to be corrected on these comments on QDOS Classic and I am sure that George Gwilt would love a simple step by step guide as to how to set it up, so that we can find out why QWord cannot open its TurboPTR

Re: [ql-users] £ 0.00 to spend! (1s t attempt)

2004-03-19 Thread Wolfgang Lenerz
On 19 Mar 2004 at 9:23, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Bumpily - as without SMSQ/E. On the other hand SMSQ/E does seem to give the, er, bumps to some... Wolfgang

Re: [ql-users] Re: Changing the subject

2004-03-19 Thread RWAPSoftware
In a message dated 19/03/2004 15:48:38 GMT Standard Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: It ties in a bit with Geoff's comment about a 1000 pounds work contract.Contray to Peter, I will always consider trying to sell my programs, or at least some of them (I hasten to add that this has

Re: [ql-users] Re: Changing the subject

2004-03-19 Thread Tony Firshman
On Fri, 19 Mar 2004 at 11:13:18, wrote: This was Rich with bad attribute--^ (ref: [EMAIL PROTECTED]) Agreed - the QL traders continue to support the QL mainly from a love for the system and the people involved.  The more disputes that arise and the less people that buy any software, the

Re: [ql-users] Re: Changing the subject

2004-03-19 Thread Wolfgang Lenerz
On 19 Mar 2004 at 16:54, Tony Firshman wrote: Maybe we ought to resort to old fashioned sheep. No thanks, I already look sheepish enough most of the time. Wolfgang

[ql-users] Re: Re: [ql-users] Re: Re: [ql-users] Re: [ql-users] Re: £ 0.00 to spend! (1st a...

2004-03-19 Thread Roy wood
In message [EMAIL PROTECTED], [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes SNIP The whole situation is a mess and it is only the users who are losing out.   No, that is not the case. The users have gained by having a stable system that is being developed in a coherent manner. Peter could be part if that if he

Re: [ql-users] Re: Changing the subject

2004-03-19 Thread Roy wood
In message [EMAIL PROTECTED], Wolfgang Lenerz [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes SNIP (Although, I don't know how much giving them a program to sell isn't a poisend pill since, at least sometimes, it seems to cost more to produce/upgrade etc, than the money they get from the sales). Very true in some

[ql-users] GPL or not GPL, that is the question

2004-03-19 Thread Arnould Nazarian
Peter Graf a écrit: Wolfgang Lenerz wrote: The software Peter is producing seems too important (...) Not if it isn't made available. Which is only true if my offer is rejected. I therefore conclude that keeping SMSQ/E from from the GPL has a much higher priority (for Wolfgang Co.) than

Re: [ql-users] Re: Changing the subject

2004-03-19 Thread Arnould Nazarian
Wolfgang Lenerz a écrit: Contray to Peter, I will always consider trying to sell my programs, or at least some of them (I hasten to add that this has nothing to do with SMSQ/E, which is not mine). For me, it is a question of commitment: if people buy my (or, indeed anybody else's

RE: [ql-users] Beginning a succesful QL journey

2004-03-19 Thread Duncan Neithercut
Peter Graf wrote: I hesitate to recommend the Q40 for you, because it's usually not a low budget solution. But in the rare case someone offers you a 2nd hand Q40, it can't be wrong if you compare the price of the Q40 to the sum of all the QL components/interfaces you'd want otherwise. I have a

Re: [ql-users] Re: Changing the subject

2004-03-19 Thread Tony Firshman
On Fri, 19 Mar 2004 at 18:49:44, Wolfgang Lenerz wrote: (ref: [EMAIL PROTECTED]) On 19 Mar 2004 at 16:54, Tony Firshman wrote: Maybe we ought to resort to old fashioned sheep. No thanks, I already look sheepish enough most of the time. I thought you were more wolf like (8-)# --

[ql-users] Re: [ql-users] Re: [ql-users] Re: Re: Re: [ql-users] £ 0.00 to spend! (1s t attempt)

2004-03-19 Thread Jeremy Taffel
I used one at uni ( Reading 1977-80) - We had a network of sorts An ICL mainframe over at one side of the campus in the Computer Science Block , and a Modular One (or some similar name) over the other side in the Cybernetics Dept - with a nature reserve and a lake between them. So, the

Re: [ql-users] GPL or not GPL, that is the question

2004-03-19 Thread RWAPSoftware
In a message dated 19/03/2004 19:41:39 GMT Standard Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: As I see it the current licence is only a security for TT: if an unknown organisation did make money with SMSQ/E, there would be an argument to get something for him. IMHO he deserves it. Please

Re: [ql-users] Re: Changing the subject

2004-03-19 Thread RWAPSoftware
In a message dated 19/03/2004 16:57:40 GMT Standard Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: This was Rich with bad attribute--^ Maybe... Or maybe I am just echoing the feelings of other traders and QL users who long ago abandoned the scene (ref: [EMAIL PROTECTED])Agreed - the QL traders

Re: [ql-users] GPL or not GPL, that is the question

2004-03-19 Thread Dave P
On Fri, 19 Mar 2004 [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Agreed, but the problem is that if someone converted Peter's work to run under SMSQ/e and it does involve changes to the operating system. Why? Because the GPL says that any future changes must also be released under the GPL licence terms

Re: [ql-users] Re: Re: [ql-users] Re: Re: [ql-users] Re: [q l-users] Re: £ 0...

2004-03-19 Thread RWAPSoftware
In a message dated 19/03/2004 18:33:26 GMT Standard Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: In message [EMAIL PROTECTED], [EMAIL PROTECTED] writesSNIPThe whole situation is a mess and it is only the users who are losing out.No, that is not the case. The users have gained by having a stable

Re: [ql-users] GPL or not GPL, that is the question

2004-03-19 Thread RWAPSoftware
In a message dated 19/03/2004 23:16:57 GMT Standard Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: Agreed, but the problem is that if someone converted Peter's work to run under SMSQ/e and it does involve changes to the operating system. Why? Because the GPL says that any future changes must

Re: [ql-users] Re: Changing the subject

2004-03-19 Thread swensont
On 19 Mar 2004 at 16:47, Wolfgang Lenerz wrote: Contray to Peter, I will always consider trying to sell my programs, or at least some of them (I hasten to add that this has nothing to do with SMSQ/E, which is not mine). I understand the point of commitment by paying for the software.

Re: [ql-users] Re: Changing the subject

2004-03-19 Thread swensont
On 19 Mar 2004 at 16:47, Wolfgang Lenerz wrote: Contray to Peter, I will always consider trying to sell my programs, or at least some of them (I hasten to add that this has nothing to do with SMSQ/E, which is not mine). I understand the point of commitment by paying for the software.

Re: [ql-users] Re: Changing the subject

2004-03-19 Thread Wolfgang Lenerz
On 19 Mar 2004 at 21:41, Tony Firshman wrote: No thanks, I already look sheepish enough most of the time. I thought you were more wolf like (8-)# but in sheeps' clothes, of course... Wolfgang QBBS (QL fido BBS 2:252/67) +44(0)1442-828255 tony@surname.co.uk