Re: [Ql-Users] QPC2 and Win 8
Am 01.08.2015 um 18:29 schrieb Norman Dunbar nor...@dunbar-it.co.uk: ... Please excuse my brevity... I had a laugh at this one. Somehow the list decided to send me your post three times ;) Tobias ___ QL-Users Mailing List http://www.q-v-d.demon.co.uk/smsqe.htm
Re: [Ql-Users] QPC2 and Win 8
Morning Norman, In the midst of all my other problems, I finally had a go at Winback this morning but have run into a problem. I have changed the FLP1_ in line 1070 to win1_ and I get a not found error. I have also tried win1_winback_ and but still get the same error. Can you help please? I am running QPC2 on Windows 8 and have managed to produce a much larger QXL file. The next problem is to get any further. TIA Regards, Peter Fox On 17.07.2015 19:57, Norman Dunbar wrote: Evening all. If you he'd over to Dilwyn's Web repository of all that is good in the QL World, and download my old Winback program, you can create a new hard drive file as win2, then set the clock and make a full backup of your current win1. Winback will set the win2 file dates etc exactly as per the original files on win1. HTH. Cheers, Norm. On 17 July 2015 18:33:59 BST, Michael Bulford michaelbulf...@yahoo.co.uk wrote: Hi Peter, can you help me on the other matter of increasing the size of QXL.win partitions, please? I've had this problem myself. What I did was to create another QXL.win file, formatted it to a much higher capacity, then copied all the files across. To preserve the original dates, I used ... COPY a$ TO b$ SET_FUPDT \b$, FUPDT(\a$) Michael ___ QL-Users Mailing List http://www.q-v-d.demon.co.uk/smsqe.htm ___ QL-Users Mailing List http://www.q-v-d.demon.co.uk/smsqe.htm
Re: [Ql-Users] QPC2 and Win 8
On 1 August 2015 12:33:45 BST, peterfox peter...@cix.co.uk wrote: Morning Norman, In the midst of all my other problems, I finally had a go at Winback this morning but have run into a problem. I have changed the FLP1_ in line 1070 to win1_ and I get a not found error. I have also tried win1_winback_ and but still get the same error. Can you help please? I am running QPC2 on Windows 8 and have managed to produce a much larger QXL file. The next problem is to get any further. TIA Regards, Peter Fox On 17.07.2015 19:57, Norman Dunbar wrote: Evening all. If you he'd over to Dilwyn's Web repository of all that is good in the QL World, and download my old Winback program, you can create a new hard drive file as win2, then set the clock and make a full backup of your current win1. Winback will set the win2 file dates etc exactly as per the original files on win1. HTH. Cheers, Norm. On 17 July 2015 18:33:59 BST, Michael Bulford michaelbulf...@yahoo.co.uk wrote: Hi Peter, can you help me on the other matter of increasing the size of QXL.win partitions, please? I've had this problem myself. What I did was to create another QXL.win file, formatted it to a much higher capacity, then copied all the files across. To preserve the original dates, I used ... COPY a$ TO b$ SET_FUPDT \b$, FUPDT(\a$) Michael ___ QL-Users Mailing List http://www.q-v-d.demon.co.uk/smsqe.htm ___ QL-Users Mailing List http://www.q-v-d.demon.co.uk/smsqe.htm Hi Peter, I'm assuming that you are referring to the boot file? I'd so then there should be a win back_exe on the same device as the boot file that you are running. There should also be an extensions file that is loaded first before the executable is exec'd. You need to look at the line that had flp in it and check that device for all the files that are LBYTES, LRESPR or EXEC'd from that device. They should all be present. When downloaded from Dilwyn's Web site I think it is set to run from flp1. If you have saved it to win, then change flp to win. If you saved it to win1_xyz then change flp to win1_xyz. Etc. HTH Cheers, Norm. -- Sent from my Android device with K-9 Mail. Please excuse my brevity and any auto corrections that are just wrong! -- Sent from my Android device with K-9 Mail. Please excuse my brevity and any auto corrections that are just wrong! ___ QL-Users Mailing List http://www.q-v-d.demon.co.uk/smsqe.htm
Re: [Ql-Users] QPC2 and Win 8
On 1 August 2015 12:33:45 BST, peterfox peter...@cix.co.uk wrote: Morning Norman, In the midst of all my other problems, I finally had a go at Winback this morning but have run into a problem. I have changed the FLP1_ in line 1070 to win1_ and I get a not found error. I have also tried win1_winback_ and but still get the same error. Can you help please? I am running QPC2 on Windows 8 and have managed to produce a much larger QXL file. The next problem is to get any further. TIA Regards, Peter Fox On 17.07.2015 19:57, Norman Dunbar wrote: Evening all. If you he'd over to Dilwyn's Web repository of all that is good in the QL World, and download my old Winback program, you can create a new hard drive file as win2, then set the clock and make a full backup of your current win1. Winback will set the win2 file dates etc exactly as per the original files on win1. HTH. Cheers, Norm. On 17 July 2015 18:33:59 BST, Michael Bulford michaelbulf...@yahoo.co.uk wrote: Hi Peter, can you help me on the other matter of increasing the size of QXL.win partitions, please? I've had this problem myself. What I did was to create another QXL.win file, formatted it to a much higher capacity, then copied all the files across. To preserve the original dates, I used ... COPY a$ TO b$ SET_FUPDT \b$, FUPDT(\a$) Michael ___ QL-Users Mailing List http://www.q-v-d.demon.co.uk/smsqe.htm ___ QL-Users Mailing List http://www.q-v-d.demon.co.uk/smsqe.htm Hi Peter, I'm assuming that you are referring to the boot file? I'd so then there should be a win back_exe on the same device as the boot file that you are running. There should also be an extensions file that is loaded first before the executable is exec'd. You need to look at the line that had flp in it and check that device for all the files that are LBYTES, LRESPR or EXEC'd from that device. They should all be present. When downloaded from Dilwyn's Web site I think it is set to run from flp1. If you have saved it to win, then change flp to win. If you saved it to win1_xyz then change flp to win1_xyz. Etc. HTH Cheers, Norm. -- Sent from my Android device with K-9 Mail. Please excuse my brevity and any auto corrections that are just wrong! ___ QL-Users Mailing List http://www.q-v-d.demon.co.uk/smsqe.htm
Re: [Ql-Users] QPC2 and Win 8
On 1 August 2015 12:33:45 BST, peterfox peter...@cix.co.uk wrote: Morning Norman, In the midst of all my other problems, I finally had a go at Winback this morning but have run into a problem. I have changed the FLP1_ in line 1070 to win1_ and I get a not found error. I have also tried win1_winback_ and but still get the same error. Can you help please? I am running QPC2 on Windows 8 and have managed to produce a much larger QXL file. The next problem is to get any further. TIA Regards, Peter Fox On 17.07.2015 19:57, Norman Dunbar wrote: Evening all. If you he'd over to Dilwyn's Web repository of all that is good in the QL World, and download my old Winback program, you can create a new hard drive file as win2, then set the clock and make a full backup of your current win1. Winback will set the win2 file dates etc exactly as per the original files on win1. HTH. Cheers, Norm. On 17 July 2015 18:33:59 BST, Michael Bulford michaelbulf...@yahoo.co.uk wrote: Hi Peter, can you help me on the other matter of increasing the size of QXL.win partitions, please? I've had this problem myself. What I did was to create another QXL.win file, formatted it to a much higher capacity, then copied all the files across. To preserve the original dates, I used ... COPY a$ TO b$ SET_FUPDT \b$, FUPDT(\a$) Michael ___ QL-Users Mailing List http://www.q-v-d.demon.co.uk/smsqe.htm ___ QL-Users Mailing List http://www.q-v-d.demon.co.uk/smsqe.htm Hi Peter, I'm assuming that you are referring to the boot file? I'd so then there should be a win back_exe on the same device as the boot file that you are running. There should also be an extensions file that is loaded first before the executable is exec'd. You need to look at the line that had flp in it and check that device for all the files that are LBYTES, LRESPR or EXEC'd from that device. They should all be present. When downloaded from Dilwyn's Web site I think it is set to run from flp1. If you have saved it to win, then change flp to win. If you saved it to win1_xyz then change flp to win1_xyz. Etc. HTH Cheers, Norm. -- Sent from my Android device with K-9 Mail. Please excuse my brevity and any auto corrections that are just wrong! -- Sent from my Android device with K-9 Mail. Please excuse my brevity and any auto corrections that are just wrong! ___ QL-Users Mailing List http://www.q-v-d.demon.co.uk/smsqe.htm
Re: [Ql-Users] QPC2 and Win 8
Seems he had a major problem with K9 - Original Message - From: Tobias Fröschle Sent: Saturday, August 01, 2015 6:39 PM Subject: Re: [Ql-Users] QPC2 and Win 8 Am 01.08.2015 um 18:29 schrieb Norman Dunbar ... Please excuse my brevity... I had a laugh at this one. Somehow the list decided to send me your post three times ;) Tobias ___ QL-Users Mailing List http://www.q-v-d.demon.co.uk/smsqe.htm
Re: [Ql-Users] QPC2 and Win 8
On 1 August 2015 17:39:36 BST, Tobias Fröschle tobias.froesc...@t-online.de wrote: Am 01.08.2015 um 18:29 schrieb Norman Dunbar nor...@dunbar-it.co.uk: ... Please excuse my brevity... I had a laugh at this one. Somehow the list decided to send me your post three times ;) Tobias ___ QL-Users Mailing List http://www.q-v-d.demon.co.uk/smsqe.htm I'm afraid my phone sent it three times, the list is innocent! :-) Cheers, Norm. -- Sent from my Android device with K-9 Mail. Please excuse my brevity and any auto corrections that are just wrong! ___ QL-Users Mailing List http://www.q-v-d.demon.co.uk/smsqe.htm
Re: [Ql-Users] QPC2 and Win 8
Op Sat, 18 Jul 2015 23:40:45 +0200 schreef Marcel Kilgus ql-us...@mail.kilgus.net: jms1 wrote: The real problem is the locations for the win1 to 8 is hard coded in the scource of smsq and smsqe. What are you talking about? This has never been the case for QPC. Marcel To complete the picture, this was and still is (as far as I know) the case for the QXL ISA card. There the QXL.win file must be in the root of your partition(s). I very much doubt this will be a problem for W$8 users. Bob -- Gemaakt met Opera's e-mailprogramma: http://www.opera.com/mail/ ___ QL-Users Mailing List http://www.q-v-d.demon.co.uk/smsqe.htm
Re: [Ql-Users] QPC2 and Win 8
On 20/07/15 11:26, BSJR wrote: Op Sat, 18 Jul 2015 23:40:45 +0200 schreef Marcel Kilgus ql-us...@mail.kilgus.net: jms1 wrote: The real problem is the locations for the win1 to 8 is hard coded in the scource of smsq and smsqe. What are you talking about? This has never been the case for QPC. Marcel To complete the picture, this was and still is (as far as I know) the case for the QXL ISA card. There the QXL.win file must be in the root of your partition(s). I very much doubt this will be a problem for W$8 users. Bob Hi, Not sure why you are using Windows with a QXL... but you could use assign the C:\ to a folder and have the QXL.WIN file for WIN1 there. But this requires a DOS command, maybe not work in Windows. Regards, Derek ___ QL-Users Mailing List http://www.q-v-d.demon.co.uk/smsqe.htm
Re: [Ql-Users] QPC2 and Win 8
Op Mon, 20 Jul 2015 12:51:00 +0200 schreef Derek Stewart de...@q40.de: On 20/07/15 11:26, BSJR wrote: Op Sat, 18 Jul 2015 23:40:45 +0200 schreef Marcel Kilgus ql-us...@mail.kilgus.net: jms1 wrote: The real problem is the locations for the win1 to 8 is hard coded in the scource of smsq and smsqe. What are you talking about? This has never been the case for QPC. Marcel To complete the picture, this was and still is (as far as I know) the case for the QXL ISA card. There the QXL.win file must be in the root of your partition(s). I very much doubt this will be a problem for W$8 users. Bob Hi, Not sure why you are using Windows with a QXL... but you could use assign the C:\ to a folder and have the QXL.WIN file for WIN1 there. I only wanted to point out the difference between the QXL hardware and QPC which may have been the source for the confusion. But this requires a DOS command, maybe not work in Windows. I doubt W$8 will be able to run on an ISA capable hardware. I don't plan to use it and will stick to DOS7 for my QXL card. Bob -- Gemaakt met Opera's e-mailprogramma: http://www.opera.com/mail/ ___ QL-Users Mailing List http://www.q-v-d.demon.co.uk/smsqe.htm
Re: [Ql-Users] QPC2 and Win 8
Derek, Windows makes a lot of sense if you have the QXL PC connected to a network (I personally use OS/2 Warp on my QXL PC, much for the same reason.) your ASSIGN tip works fine if you want more than one QXL drive. Tobias -Original-Nachricht- Betreff: Re: [Ql-Users] QPC2 and Win 8 Datum: Mon, 20 Jul 2015 13:03:19 +0200 Von: Derek Stewart de...@q40.de An: ql-us...@q-v-d.com On 20/07/15 11:26, BSJR wrote: Op Sat, 18 Jul 2015 23:40:45 +0200 schreef Marcel Kilgus ql-us...@mail.kilgus.net: jms1 wrote: The real problem is the locations for the win1 to 8 is hard coded in the scource of smsq and smsqe. What are you talking about? This has never been the case for QPC. Marcel To complete the picture, this was and still is (as far as I know) the case for the QXL ISA card. There the QXL.win file must be in the root of your partition(s). I very much doubt this will be a problem for W$8 users. Bob Hi, Not sure why you are using Windows with a QXL... but you could use assign the C:\ to a folder and have the QXL.WIN file for WIN1 there. But this requires a DOS command, maybe not work in Windows. Regards, Derek ___ QL-Users Mailing List http://www.q-v-d.demon.co.uk/smsqe.htm ___ QL-Users Mailing List http://www.q-v-d.demon.co.uk/smsqe.htm
Re: [Ql-Users] QPC2 and Win 8
Hi Tobias, I have a QXL connected to my Linux Server through mapping a DOS drive with TCP/IP link. No need for windows. But OS/2 Warp could been a better OS than Windows. Do have the QXL executable working on OS/2? -Original Message- From: tobias.froesc...@t-online.de tobias.froesc...@t-online.de Sent: 20/07/2015 14:37 To: ql-us...@q-v-d.com ql-us...@q-v-d.com Subject: Re: [Ql-Users] QPC2 and Win 8 Derek, Windows makes a lot of sense if you have the QXL PC connected to a network (I personally use OS/2 Warp on my QXL PC, much for the same reason.) your ASSIGN tip works fine if you want more than one QXL drive. Tobias -Original-Nachricht- Betreff: Re: [Ql-Users] QPC2 and Win 8 Datum: Mon, 20 Jul 2015 13:03:19 +0200 Von: Derek Stewart de...@q40.de An: ql-us...@q-v-d.com On 20/07/15 11:26, BSJR wrote: Op Sat, 18 Jul 2015 23:40:45 +0200 schreef Marcel Kilgus ql-us...@mail.kilgus.net: jms1 wrote: The real problem is the locations for the win1 to 8 is hard coded in the scource of smsq and smsqe. What are you talking about? This has never been the case for QPC. Marcel To complete the picture, this was and still is (as far as I know) the case for the QXL ISA card. There the QXL.win file must be in the root of your partition(s). I very much doubt this will be a problem for W$8 users. Bob Hi, Not sure why you are using Windows with a QXL... but you could use assign the C:\ to a folder and have the QXL.WIN file for WIN1 there. But this requires a DOS command, maybe not work in Windows. Regards, Derek ___ QL-Users Mailing List http://www.q-v-d.demon.co.uk/smsqe.htm ___ QL-Users Mailing List http://www.q-v-d.demon.co.uk/smsqe.htm ___ QL-Users Mailing List http://www.q-v-d.demon.co.uk/smsqe.htm
Re: [Ql-Users] QPC2 and Win 8
Derek, I'm using QXL and it's actual executable on OS/2 Warp 3.0. And, yes, that works (I had to tweak OS/2 a bit in order to allow access to the QXL's I/O ports (0x2b0, if I remember right). I Also have eComStation (the official successor of Warp 3.0) here, but haven't tried it yet (but most probably try that soon, I have been able to source a cute Mini-PC with a blazingly fast Pentium II ( ;) ) and one ISA slot and intend to move my QXL there. But that guy needs a bit of black laquer first to keep style ;) ) Windows 3.1 and Windows 98 BTW apparently seem to tweak the timer interrupt when working with the QXL (or introduce some latency? I don't care) which renders the QXL network ports unusable - At least on my PC, QXL refuses to connect to the QL network when using Windows 98 - Works fine on DOS and Warp though. What's also nice when using a more modern OS is that you can just on the fly connect to the internet and draw some essential SW from Dilwyn's site ;) Tobias -Original-Nachricht- Betreff: Re: [Ql-Users] QPC2 and Win 8 Datum: Mon, 20 Jul 2015 17:00:58 +0200 Von: Derek de...@q40.de An: ql-us...@q-v-d.com Hi Tobias, I have a QXL connected to my Linux Server through mapping a DOS drive with TCP/IP link. No need for windows. But OS/2 Warp could been a better OS than Windows. Do have the QXL executable working on OS/2? -Original Message- From: tobias.froesc...@t-online.de tobias.froesc...@t-online.de Sent: 20/07/2015 14:37 To: ql-us...@q-v-d.com ql-us...@q-v-d.com Subject: Re: [Ql-Users] QPC2 and Win 8 Derek, Windows makes a lot of sense if you have the QXL PC connected to a network (I personally use OS/2 Warp on my QXL PC, much for the same reason.) your ASSIGN tip works fine if you want more than one QXL drive. Tobias -Original-Nachricht- Betreff: Re: [Ql-Users] QPC2 and Win 8 Datum: Mon, 20 Jul 2015 13:03:19 +0200 Von: Derek Stewart de...@q40.de An: ql-us...@q-v-d.com On 20/07/15 11:26, BSJR wrote: Op Sat, 18 Jul 2015 23:40:45 +0200 schreef Marcel Kilgus ql-us...@mail.kilgus.net: jms1 wrote: The real problem is the locations for the win1 to 8 is hard coded in the scource of smsq and smsqe. What are you talking about? This has never been the case for QPC. Marcel To complete the picture, this was and still is (as far as I know) the case for the QXL ISA card. There the QXL.win file must be in the root of your partition(s). I very much doubt this will be a problem for W$8 users. Bob Hi, Not sure why you are using Windows with a QXL... but you could use assign the C:\ to a folder and have the QXL.WIN file for WIN1 there. But this requires a DOS command, maybe not work in Windows. Regards, Derek ___ QL-Users Mailing List http://www.q-v-d.demon.co.uk/smsqe.htm ___ QL-Users Mailing List http://www.q-v-d.demon.co.uk/smsqe.htm ___ QL-Users Mailing List http://www.q-v-d.demon.co.uk/smsqe.htm ___ QL-Users Mailing List http://www.q-v-d.demon.co.uk/smsqe.htm
Re: [Ql-Users] QPC2 and Win 8
On 18/07/15 22:36, jms1 wrote: The real problem is the locations for the win1 to 8 is hard coded in the scource of smsq and smsqe. Either alter the source code, assembling or hack smsq.bin or smsqe.bin by removing the drive locations, and keeping the file the same length by adding nulls after. I have done this for years and the win files finish in the same directory smsq(e).bin ___ QL-Users Mailing List http://www.q-v-d.demon.co.uk/smsqe.htm Please the attached screen shots, the QPC2 Device storage is not hard coded, is is configurable from the main configuration screen, by selecting the Devices option, see QPC2 Devices.png for QPC2 storage options for QXL.WIN files. I doubt that QPC1 had the QXL.WIN hard coded either, there was a configuration file as well. As I said Read The Fine Manual Regards, Derek ___ QL-Users Mailing List http://www.q-v-d.demon.co.uk/smsqe.htm
Re: [Ql-Users] QPC2 and Win 8
Kooks like Attachments are not allowed on the list. Regards, Derek On 19/07/15 09:12, Derek Stewart wrote: On 18/07/15 22:36, jms1 wrote: The real problem is the locations for the win1 to 8 is hard coded in the scource of smsq and smsqe. Either alter the source code, assembling or hack smsq.bin or smsqe.bin by removing the drive locations, and keeping the file the same length by adding nulls after. I have done this for years and the win files finish in the same directory smsq(e).bin ___ QL-Users Mailing List http://www.q-v-d.demon.co.uk/smsqe.htm Please the attached screen shots, the QPC2 Device storage is not hard coded, is is configurable from the main configuration screen, by selecting the Devices option, see QPC2 Devices.png for QPC2 storage options for QXL.WIN files. I doubt that QPC1 had the QXL.WIN hard coded either, there was a configuration file as well. As I said Read The Fine Manual Regards, Derek ___ QL-Users Mailing List http://www.q-v-d.demon.co.uk/smsqe.htm ___ QL-Users Mailing List http://www.q-v-d.demon.co.uk/smsqe.htm
Re: [Ql-Users] QPC2 and Win 8
Good grief, whatever gave you that impression? You can freely choose where your qxl.win file should lie, of course! Wolfgang On 07/18/2015 11:36 PM, jms1 wrote: The real problem is the locations for the win1 to 8 is hard coded in the scource of smsq and smsqe. Either alter the source code, assembling or hack smsq.bin or smsqe.bin by removing the drive locations, and keeping the file the same length by adding nulls after. I have done this for years and the win files finish in the same directory smsq(e).bin ___ QL-Users Mailing List http://www.q-v-d.demon.co.uk/smsqe.htm ___ QL-Users Mailing List http://www.q-v-d.demon.co.uk/smsqe.htm
Re: [Ql-Users] QPC2 and Win 8
Am 19.07.2015 um 10:12 schrieb Derek Stewart de...@q40.de: On 18/07/15 22:36, jms1 wrote: The real problem is the locations for the win1 to 8 is hard coded in the scource of smsq and smsqe. Either alter the source code, assembling or hack smsq.bin or smsqe.bin by removing the drive locations, and keeping the file the same length by adding nulls after. I have done this for years and the win files finish in the same directory smsq(e).bin ___ QL-Users Mailing List http://www.q-v-d.demon.co.uk/smsqe.htm Please the attached screen shots, the QPC2 Device storage is not hard coded, is is configurable from the main configuration screen, by selecting the Devices option, see QPC2 Devices.png for QPC2 storage options for QXL.WIN files. I doubt that QPC1 had the QXL.WIN hard coded either, there was a configuration file as well. As I said Read The Fine Manual Regards, Derek Derek, note the QL mailing list is one of the old-fashioned institutions that slice off any attachment before distribution….. Tobias ___ QL-Users Mailing List http://www.q-v-d.demon.co.uk/smsqe.htm
Re: [Ql-Users] QPC2 and Win 8
A qxl.win file doesn't even have to be on a hard disk. When Roger Godley was doing his GD Xchange upgrade he sent me each of his updates on a small qxl.win file. I saved them to pen memory and then adjusted the QPC2 device list temporarily at runtime, I remember seeing a small QXL.WIN (1MB?) on a floppy disk, but can't remember if it could be used from a floppy disk or had to be copied to hard disk to work. Dilwyn ___ QL-Users Mailing List http://www.q-v-d.demon.co.uk/smsqe.htm
Re: [Ql-Users] QPC2 and Win 8
On 19/07/2015 09:39, Wolf wrote: Good grief, whatever gave you that impression? You can freely choose where your qxl.win file should lie, of course! Wolfgang On 07/18/2015 11:36 PM, jms1 wrote: The real problem is the locations for the win1 to 8 is hard coded in the scource of smsq and smsqe. Either alter the source code, assembling or hack smsq.bin or smsqe.bin by removing the drive locations, and keeping the file the same length by adding nulls after. I have done this for years and the win files finish in the same directory smsq(e).bin ___ QL-Users Mailing List http://www.q-v-d.demon.co.uk/smsqe.htm ___ QL-Users Mailing List http://www.q-v-d.demon.co.uk/smsqe.htm A qxl.win file doesn't even have to be on a hard disk. When Roger Godley was doing his GD Xchange upgrade he sent me each of his updates on a small qxl.win file. I saved them to pen memory and then adjusted the QPC2 device list temporarily at runtime, Best wishes, Geoff ___ QL-Users Mailing List http://www.q-v-d.demon.co.uk/smsqe.htm
Re: [Ql-Users] QPC2 and Win 8
Well, I have som win files lying on the SAN’s network drives. That makes it easy to exchange files between QPC2s running on different machines. Tobias Yes, this is very useful that QPC2 lets you assign a network path for a QXL.WIN Dilwyn ___ QL-Users Mailing List http://www.q-v-d.demon.co.uk/smsqe.htm
Re: [Ql-Users] QPC2 and Win 8
I have a .win file on a pen-stick which I use for storing the NEMQLUG Games and all I do is configure the QPC2 devices page where Win1_ is set to f:\QT10.Win where f is the drive letter given to the Pen-Stick, QT10 is the name I have chosen for a 10Mb .win file and this worked first time and every time since (although if I try to run it on my Desktop PC I have change the drive letter allocated to the Pen-Stick as this may vary on different PCs or Laptops etc. Also by adding a full version of QPC2 to the pen-Stick, the whole programme is in one place. Kind Regards, John Gilpin. QUANTA Membership Secretary and QUANTA Treasurer membership @quanta.org.uk treasurer @quanta.org.uk On 19/07/2015 18:18, Dilwyn Jones wrote: A qxl.win file doesn't even have to be on a hard disk. When Roger Godley was doing his GD Xchange upgrade he sent me each of his updates on a small qxl.win file. I saved them to pen memory and then adjusted the QPC2 device list temporarily at runtime, I remember seeing a small QXL.WIN (1MB?) on a floppy disk, but can't remember if it could be used from a floppy disk or had to be copied to hard disk to work. Dilwyn ___ QL-Users Mailing List http://www.q-v-d.demon.co.uk/smsqe.htm ___ QL-Users Mailing List http://www.q-v-d.demon.co.uk/smsqe.htm
Re: [Ql-Users] QPC2 and Win 8
Well, I have som win files lying on the SAN’s network drives. That makes it easy to exchange files between QPC2s running on different machines. Tobias Am 19.07.2015 um 19:45 schrieb John Gilpin thegilp...@btinternet.com: I have a .win file on a pen-stick which I use for storing the NEMQLUG Games and all I do is configure the QPC2 devices page where Win1_ is set to f:\QT10.Win where f is the drive letter given to the Pen-Stick, QT10 is the name I have chosen for a 10Mb .win file and this worked first time and every time since (although if I try to run it on my Desktop PC I have change the drive letter allocated to the Pen-Stick as this may vary on different PCs or Laptops etc. Also by adding a full version of QPC2 to the pen-Stick, the whole programme is in one place. Kind Regards, John Gilpin. QUANTA Membership Secretary and QUANTA Treasurer membership @quanta.org.uk treasurer @quanta.org.uk On 19/07/2015 18:18, Dilwyn Jones wrote: A qxl.win file doesn't even have to be on a hard disk. When Roger Godley was doing his GD Xchange upgrade he sent me each of his updates on a small qxl.win file. I saved them to pen memory and then adjusted the QPC2 device list temporarily at runtime, I remember seeing a small QXL.WIN (1MB?) on a floppy disk, but can't remember if it could be used from a floppy disk or had to be copied to hard disk to work. Dilwyn ___ QL-Users Mailing List http://www.q-v-d.demon.co.uk/smsqe.htm ___ QL-Users Mailing List http://www.q-v-d.demon.co.uk/smsqe.htm ___ QL-Users Mailing List http://www.q-v-d.demon.co.uk/smsqe.htm
Re: [Ql-Users] QPC2 and Win 8
On 17/07/15 20:53, pjwitte wrote: On 17/07/2015 17:27, François Van Emelen wrote: Op 17/07/2015 om 11:38 schreef peterfox: Hi Marcel, I have had another look on C: and it is not obvious. Any Suggestions, please? How can one create a larger QXL.Win, please? TIA Regards Peter Hi, I suppose you need the instructions to format a 'win'. The manual says: WIN_FORMAT 1 Allow WIN1_ to be formatted FORMAT WIN1_10 Create a 10 Megabyte WIN device on C: ... you have to echo the two characters displayed ... WIN_FORMAT 1,0 protect WIN1_ again against unwanted formatting As far as I know you can't modify to size of a 'QXL.WIN' you have to create a larger (or smaller) one and copy your files. Hope this helps. Have a nice day. François Van Emelen SNIP Yes, but make sure youre not formatting your boot drive! ;) Per ___ QL-Users Mailing List http://www.q-v-d.demon.co.uk/smsqe.htm Hi, In Windows 8, users (even administrators) are not allowed to create files in the C drive root directory, otherwise, an error message like “A required privilege is not held by the client” or “access is denied” will be prompted. To fix it, just turn off the User Account Control (UAC). In Windows 8, do not turn off the UAC via control panel, it must go through the registry. Or create file, i.e. QXL.WIN files in your user area and change the Devices deintion in the QPC2 startup. Regards, Derek ___ QL-Users Mailing List http://www.q-v-d.demon.co.uk/smsqe.htm
Re: [Ql-Users] QPC2 and Win 8
Am 18.07.2015 um 11:46 schrieb Derek Stewart de...@q40.de: On 17/07/15 20:53, pjwitte wrote: On 17/07/2015 17:27, François Van Emelen wrote: Op 17/07/2015 om 11:38 schreef peterfox: Hi Marcel, I have had another look on C: and it is not obvious. Any Suggestions, please? How can one create a larger QXL.Win, please? TIA Regards Peter Hi, I suppose you need the instructions to format a 'win'. The manual says: WIN_FORMAT 1 Allow WIN1_ to be formatted FORMAT WIN1_10 Create a 10 Megabyte WIN device on C: ... you have to echo the two characters displayed ... WIN_FORMAT 1,0 protect WIN1_ again against unwanted formatting As far as I know you can't modify to size of a 'QXL.WIN' you have to create a larger (or smaller) one and copy your files. Hope this helps. Have a nice day. François Van Emelen SNIP Yes, but make sure youre not formatting your boot drive! ;) Per ___ QL-Users Mailing List http://www.q-v-d.demon.co.uk/smsqe.htm Hi, In Windows 8, users (even administrators) are not allowed to create files in the C drive root directory, otherwise, an error message like “A required privilege is not held by the client” or “access is denied” will be prompted. To fix it, just turn off the User Account Control (UAC). In Windows 8, do not turn off the UAC via control panel, it must go through the registry. Or create file, i.e. QXL.WIN files in your user area and change the Devices deintion in the QPC2 startup. Regards, Derek Hi, There’s way too many good reasons for not creating files outside your user area - So, better use Derek's second option. Tobias ___ QL-Users Mailing List http://www.q-v-d.demon.co.uk/smsqe.htm
Re: [Ql-Users] QPC2 and Win 8
Hi Francois, Thank you for your input. My puzzlement is where do you actually type FORMAT Win1_10 to get a 10 Mb win device on C. I have tried the run command and it obviously tried to do something but I cannot find it. TIA Regards, Peter On 18.07.2015 10:53, Tobias Fröschle wrote: Am 18.07.2015 um 11:46 schrieb Derek Stewart de...@q40.de: On 17/07/15 20:53, pjwitte wrote: On 17/07/2015 17:27, François Van Emelen wrote: Op 17/07/2015 om 11:38 schreef peterfox: Hi Marcel, I have had another look on C: and it is not obvious. Any Suggestions, please? How can one create a larger QXL.Win, please? TIA Regards Peter Hi, I suppose you need the instructions to format a 'win'. The manual says: WIN_FORMAT 1 Allow WIN1_ to be formatted FORMAT WIN1_10 Create a 10 Megabyte WIN device on C: ... you have to echo the two characters displayed ... WIN_FORMAT 1,0 protect WIN1_ again against unwanted formatting As far as I know you can't modify to size of a 'QXL.WIN' you have to create a larger (or smaller) one and copy your files. Hope this helps. Have a nice day. François Van Emelen SNIP Yes, but make sure youre not formatting your boot drive! ;) Per ___ QL-Users Mailing List http://www.q-v-d.demon.co.uk/smsqe.htm Hi, In Windows 8, users (even administrators) are not allowed to create files in the C drive root directory, otherwise, an error message like “A required privilege is not held by the client” or “access is denied” will be prompted. To fix it, just turn off the User Account Control (UAC). In Windows 8, do not turn off the UAC via control panel, it must go through the registry. Or create file, i.e. QXL.WIN files in your user area and change the Devices deintion in the QPC2 startup. Regards, Derek Hi, There’s way too many good reasons for not creating files outside your user area - So, better use Derek's second option. Tobias ___ QL-Users Mailing List http://www.q-v-d.demon.co.uk/smsqe.htm ___ QL-Users Mailing List http://www.q-v-d.demon.co.uk/smsqe.htm
Re: [Ql-Users] QPC2 and Win 8
The real problem is the locations for the win1 to 8 is hard coded in the scource of smsq and smsqe. Either alter the source code, assembling or hack smsq.bin or smsqe.bin by removing the drive locations, and keeping the file the same length by adding nulls after. I have done this for years and the win files finish in the same directory smsq(e).bin ___ QL-Users Mailing List http://www.q-v-d.demon.co.uk/smsqe.htm
Re: [Ql-Users] QPC2 and Win 8
Hi, I think a little RTFM (Reading of The Fine Manual) is required. However. QPC2 has formatting of QXL.WIN disabled by default. To create a new WIN drive, you must issue the command: WIN_FORMAT 1 Then enter the command: FORMAT WIN1_10 This format a 10mb QXL.WIN file in the location defined in the QPC2 Devices setup. For completeness, issue WIN_FORMAT 0 to disable formatting. Regards, Derek -Original Message- From: François Van Emelen francois.vaneme...@telenet.be Sent: 18/07/2015 17:56 To: ql-us...@q-v-d.com ql-us...@q-v-d.com Subject: Re: [Ql-Users] QPC2 and Win 8 Op 18/07/2015 om 17:12 schreef peterfox: Hi Francois, Thank you for your input. My puzzlement is where do you actually type FORMAT Win1_10 to get a 10 Mb win device on C. I have tried the run command and it obviously tried to do something but I cannot find it. TIA Regards, Peter SNIP Dilwyn answered this before I saw your question. Don't forget to copy your original 'QLX.WIN' somewhere else (in windows) before creating the new one in QPC2. Have a nice day, François Van Emelen ___ QL-Users Mailing List http://www.q-v-d.demon.co.uk/smsqe.htm ___ QL-Users Mailing List http://www.q-v-d.demon.co.uk/smsqe.htm
Re: [Ql-Users] QPC2 and Win 8
jms1 wrote: The real problem is the locations for the win1 to 8 is hard coded in the scource of smsq and smsqe. What are you talking about? This has never been the case for QPC. Marcel ___ QL-Users Mailing List http://www.q-v-d.demon.co.uk/smsqe.htm
Re: [Ql-Users] QPC2 and Win 8
And also not for the two native access parts, Atari and Qxx- There were always SBASIC ways to select a WIN to format at will. - Original Message - From: Marcel Kilgus jms1 wrote: The real problem is the locations for the win1 to 8 is hard coded in the scource of smsq and smsqe. What are you talking about? This has never been the case for QPC. Marcel ___ QL-Users Mailing List http://www.q-v-d.demon.co.uk/smsqe.htm
Re: [Ql-Users] QPC2 and Win 8
Just type the WIN_FORMAT and FORMAT commands into BASIC in QPC, like any other BASIC command. The FORMAT command is just the hard disk version of the normal FORMAT command. The '10' is just the size in megabytes, so if you want a QXL.WIN of size 100MB instead of a 10MB one, you would use FORMAT WIN1_100. The other command someone suggested (WIN_FORMAT) is just a command which enables and disables the formatting of a QXL.WIN. The authors included that because otherwise it was too easy to acceidentally reformat the wrong QXL.WIN, that’s all. Full details are in the QPC manual - you can download it from Marcel's website at http://www.kilgus.net/qpc/downloads.html That manual downloads as a PDF file you can view in Windows with just about any PDF viewer such as the Adobe PDF reader for example. If you want a more complete SMSQ/E manual (the whole of SBASIC, not just the QPC bit), try this one, available in several formats including a PDF file, in the section called “SMSQ/E Manual” near the bottom of the page: http://www.dilwyn.me.uk/docs/ebooks/index.html On a slight tangent, for people wanting to copy files between large media like QXL.WIN and wanting to ensure you have the latest copies of files on both media, try my SYNC program at http://www.dilwyn.me.uk/files/index.html . This “synchronises” files between two media (whole disks or just individual directories), taking dates into account, ensuring the latest versions of files on both media. I wrote it myself in QL BASIC, so anyone familiar with QL BASIC should be able to tweak it for their own needs. Because I sometimes work from a desktop PC, sometimes from a netbook PC, I find it handy to make sure any changes made on either machine are kept up to date on the other more or less automatically without me having to remember which files I need to copy from which machine to which. Dilwyn Jones -Original Message- From: peterfox Sent: Saturday, July 18, 2015 4:12 PM To: ql-us...@q-v-d.com Subject: Re: [Ql-Users] QPC2 and Win 8 Hi Francois, Thank you for your input. My puzzlement is where do you actually type FORMAT Win1_10 to get a 10 Mb win device on C. I have tried the run command and it obviously tried to do something but I cannot find it. TIA Regards, Peter On 18.07.2015 10:53, Tobias Fröschle wrote: Am 18.07.2015 um 11:46 schrieb Derek Stewart de...@q40.de: On 17/07/15 20:53, pjwitte wrote: On 17/07/2015 17:27, François Van Emelen wrote: Op 17/07/2015 om 11:38 schreef peterfox: Hi Marcel, I have had another look on C: and it is not obvious. Any Suggestions, please? How can one create a larger QXL.Win, please? TIA Regards Peter Hi, I suppose you need the instructions to format a 'win'. The manual says: WIN_FORMAT 1 Allow WIN1_ to be formatted FORMAT WIN1_10 Create a 10 Megabyte WIN device on C: ... you have to echo the two characters displayed ... WIN_FORMAT 1,0 protect WIN1_ again against unwanted formatting As far as I know you can't modify to size of a 'QXL.WIN' you have to create a larger (or smaller) one and copy your files. Hope this helps. Have a nice day. François Van Emelen SNIP Yes, but make sure youre not formatting your boot drive! ;) Per ___ QL-Users Mailing List http://www.q-v-d.demon.co.uk/smsqe.htm Hi, In Windows 8, users (even administrators) are not allowed to create files in the C drive root directory, otherwise, an error message like “A required privilege is not held by the client” or “access is denied” will be prompted. To fix it, just turn off the User Account Control (UAC). In Windows 8, do not turn off the UAC via control panel, it must go through the registry. Or create file, i.e. QXL.WIN files in your user area and change the Devices deintion in the QPC2 startup. Regards, Derek Hi, There’s way too many good reasons for not creating files outside your user area - So, better use Derek's second option. Tobias ___ QL-Users Mailing List http://www.q-v-d.demon.co.uk/smsqe.htm ___ QL-Users Mailing List http://www.q-v-d.demon.co.uk/smsqe.htm ___ QL-Users Mailing List http://www.q-v-d.demon.co.uk/smsqe.htm
Re: [Ql-Users] QPC2 and Win 8
Op 18/07/2015 om 17:12 schreef peterfox: Hi Francois, Thank you for your input. My puzzlement is where do you actually type FORMAT Win1_10 to get a 10 Mb win device on C. I have tried the run command and it obviously tried to do something but I cannot find it. TIA Regards, Peter SNIP Dilwyn answered this before I saw your question. Don't forget to copy your original 'QLX.WIN' somewhere else (in windows) before creating the new one in QPC2. Have a nice day, François Van Emelen ___ QL-Users Mailing List http://www.q-v-d.demon.co.uk/smsqe.htm
Re: [Ql-Users] QPC2 and Win 8
Op 17/07/2015 om 11:38 schreef peterfox: Hi Marcel, I have had another look on C: and it is not obvious. Any Suggestions, please? How can one create a larger QXL.Win, please? TIA Regards Peter Hi, I suppose you need the instructions to format a 'win'. The manual says: WIN_FORMAT 1 Allow WIN1_ to be formatted FORMAT WIN1_10 Create a 10 Megabyte WIN device on C: ... you have to echo the two characters displayed ... WIN_FORMAT 1,0 protect WIN1_ again against unwanted formatting As far as I know you can't modify to size of a 'QXL.WIN' you have to create a larger (or smaller) one and copy your files. Hope this helps. Have a nice day. François Van Emelen SNIP ___ QL-Users Mailing List http://www.q-v-d.demon.co.uk/smsqe.htm
Re: [Ql-Users] QPC2 and Win 8
This unfortunately doesn't answer my question. Where are your QXL.WIN files located? I have a suspicion and need the complete path. Marcel Peter wrote: Hi Marcel, Thank you for coming back to me. I have been writing a diary for a very long time and these files were in Diary. Additionally, I have many QSpread files in QXL2.win which are being updates every day. When I said that the dates on the QXL files are dated 25 October 2014 those are the dates which shew when inspecting C:\ Because I ran out of space on QXL.win, I have moved most of my old diary files across to QXL2.Win. When I look at the Diary files on the Windows 7 machine, all the diary files are within Diary and nothing later than October 2014. I hope that I have managed to explain myself. TIA Regards, Peter Fox On 17.07.2015 09:40, Marcel Kilgus wrote: Peter Fox wrote: I have now tried to transfer QXL.win and QXL2.win back to a Windows 7 machine and have failed. The dates on the QXL files are 25 October 2014 even though there are files dated July 2015 within the files. Where are the files located? Marcel ___ QL-Users Mailing List http://www.q-v-d.demon.co.uk/smsqe.htm ___ QL-Users Mailing List http://www.q-v-d.demon.co.uk/smsqe.htm ___ QL-Users Mailing List http://www.q-v-d.demon.co.uk/smsqe.htm
Re: [Ql-Users] QPC2 and Win 8
Peter Fox wrote: I have now tried to transfer QXL.win and QXL2.win back to a Windows 7 machine and have failed. The dates on the QXL files are 25 October 2014 even though there are files dated July 2015 within the files. Where are the files located? Marcel ___ QL-Users Mailing List http://www.q-v-d.demon.co.uk/smsqe.htm
Re: [Ql-Users] QPC2 and Win 8
I have no idea how you even managed to do put them there in Windows 8, this should be pretty much impossible for normal users. Also, they would be write protected there. Note for everybody: DO NOT PUT FILES IN C:\ Search your drive for other copies of QXL.WIN which are more recent. The ones in C:\ are obviously not the ones you're actually working with. Marcel PeterFox wrote: Hi Marcel, The QXL files are on C:\ and are C:\QXL.win and C:\QXL2.win I hope that this the answer you need. TIA Regards, Peter ___ QL-Users Mailing List http://www.q-v-d.demon.co.uk/smsqe.htm
Re: [Ql-Users] QPC2 and Win 8
Hi Marcel, Thank you for coming back to me. I have been writing a diary for a very long time and these files were in Diary. Additionally, I have many QSpread files in QXL2.win which are being updates every day. When I said that the dates on the QXL files are dated 25 October 2014 those are the dates which shew when inspecting C:\ Because I ran out of space on QXL.win, I have moved most of my old diary files across to QXL2.Win. When I look at the Diary files on the Windows 7 machine, all the diary files are within Diary and nothing later than October 2014. I hope that I have managed to explain myself. TIA Regards, Peter Fox On 17.07.2015 09:40, Marcel Kilgus wrote: Peter Fox wrote: I have now tried to transfer QXL.win and QXL2.win back to a Windows 7 machine and have failed. The dates on the QXL files are 25 October 2014 even though there are files dated July 2015 within the files. Where are the files located? Marcel ___ QL-Users Mailing List http://www.q-v-d.demon.co.uk/smsqe.htm ___ QL-Users Mailing List http://www.q-v-d.demon.co.uk/smsqe.htm
Re: [Ql-Users] QPC2 and Win 8
Hi Marcel, The QXL files are on C:\ and are C:\QXL.win and C:\QXL2.win I hope that this the answer you need. TIA Regards, Peter On 17.07.2015 09:54, Marcel Kilgus wrote: This unfortunately doesn't answer my question. Where are your QXL.WIN files located? I have a suspicion and need the complete path. Marcel Peter wrote: Hi Marcel, Thank you for coming back to me. I have been writing a diary for a very long time and these files were in Diary. Additionally, I have many QSpread files in QXL2.win which are being updates every day. When I said that the dates on the QXL files are dated 25 October 2014 those are the dates which shew when inspecting C:\ Because I ran out of space on QXL.win, I have moved most of my old diary files across to QXL2.Win. When I look at the Diary files on the Windows 7 machine, all the diary files are within Diary and nothing later than October 2014. I hope that I have managed to explain myself. TIA Regards, Peter Fox On 17.07.2015 09:40, Marcel Kilgus wrote: Peter Fox wrote: I have now tried to transfer QXL.win and QXL2.win back to a Windows 7 machine and have failed. The dates on the QXL files are 25 October 2014 even though there are files dated July 2015 within the files. Where are the files located? Marcel ___ QL-Users Mailing List http://www.q-v-d.demon.co.uk/smsqe.htm ___ QL-Users Mailing List http://www.q-v-d.demon.co.uk/smsqe.htm ___ QL-Users Mailing List http://www.q-v-d.demon.co.uk/smsqe.htm ___ QL-Users Mailing List http://www.q-v-d.demon.co.uk/smsqe.htm
Re: [Ql-Users] QPC2 and Win 8
Hi Marcel, I have looked on both D and E: and cannot find anything but thank you for the warning. I this a case of the file being called something else? can you help me on the other matter of increasing the size of QXL.win partitions, please? TIA Regards, Peter On 17.07.2015 10:06, Marcel Kilgus wrote: I have no idea how you even managed to do put them there in Windows 8, this should be pretty much impossible for normal users. Also, they would be write protected there. Note for everybody: DO NOT PUT FILES IN C:\ Search your drive for other copies of QXL.WIN which are more recent. The ones in C:\ are obviously not the ones you're actually working with. Marcel PeterFox wrote: Hi Marcel, The QXL files are on C:\ and are C:\QXL.win and C:\QXL2.win I hope that this the answer you need. TIA Regards, Peter ___ QL-Users Mailing List http://www.q-v-d.demon.co.uk/smsqe.htm ___ QL-Users Mailing List http://www.q-v-d.demon.co.uk/smsqe.htm
Re: [Ql-Users] QPC2 and Win 8
Hi Peter, Hit the Windows button and type *.win and windows should show you all locations of .win files. Graeme On Fri, 17 Jul 2015, at 10:20 AM, peterfox wrote: Hi Marcel, I have looked on both D and E: and cannot find anything but thank you for the warning. I this a case of the file being called something else? can you help me on the other matter of increasing the size of QXL.win partitions, please? TIA Regards, Peter On 17.07.2015 10:06, Marcel Kilgus wrote: I have no idea how you even managed to do put them there in Windows 8, this should be pretty much impossible for normal users. Also, they would be write protected there. Note for everybody: DO NOT PUT FILES IN C:\ Search your drive for other copies of QXL.WIN which are more recent. The ones in C:\ are obviously not the ones you're actually working with. Marcel PeterFox wrote: Hi Marcel, The QXL files are on C:\ and are C:\QXL.win and C:\QXL2.win I hope that this the answer you need. TIA Regards, Peter ___ QL-Users Mailing List http://www.q-v-d.demon.co.uk/smsqe.htm ___ QL-Users Mailing List http://www.q-v-d.demon.co.uk/smsqe.htm ___ QL-Users Mailing List http://www.q-v-d.demon.co.uk/smsqe.htm
Re: [Ql-Users] QPC2 and Win 8
Hi Marcel, I have had another look on C: and it is not obvious. Any Suggestions, please? How can one create a larger QXL.Win, please? TIA Regards Peter On 17.07.2015 10:27, Marcel Kilgus wrote: peterfox wrote: I have looked on both D and E: and cannot find anything but thank you for the warning. I this a case of the file being called something else? No, not on D or E, it would be somewhere on C: can you help me on the other matter of increasing the size of QXL.win partitions, please? This can only be done by creating a larger QXL.WIN and copying the old data over. Marcel ___ QL-Users Mailing List http://www.q-v-d.demon.co.uk/smsqe.htm ___ QL-Users Mailing List http://www.q-v-d.demon.co.uk/smsqe.htm
Re: [Ql-Users] QPC2 and Win 8
Hi Graeme, Thank you for coming back to me. I have tried this and got a lot of answers but none of the correct ones. Can you please enlighten me on creating a new larger QXL.win? I have lost all my documentation, unfortunately and am groping in the dark. I think I have managed to overcome the problem of files not being updated by zipping up all the files I know will be missing or not up-to-date. These two zips have been moved into DOS and all I need is a much larger QXL.win and I am almost home and dry. TIA Regards, Peter On 17.07.2015 10:22, Graeme Gregory wrote: Hi Peter, Hit the Windows button and type *.win and windows should show you all locations of .win files. Graeme On Fri, 17 Jul 2015, at 10:20 AM, peterfox wrote: Hi Marcel, I have looked on both D and E: and cannot find anything but thank you for the warning. I this a case of the file being called something else? can you help me on the other matter of increasing the size of QXL.win partitions, please? TIA Regards, Peter On 17.07.2015 10:06, Marcel Kilgus wrote: I have no idea how you even managed to do put them there in Windows 8, this should be pretty much impossible for normal users. Also, they would be write protected there. Note for everybody: DO NOT PUT FILES IN C:\ Search your drive for other copies of QXL.WIN which are more recent. The ones in C:\ are obviously not the ones you're actually working with. Marcel PeterFox wrote: Hi Marcel, The QXL files are on C:\ and are C:\QXL.win and C:\QXL2.win I hope that this the answer you need. TIA Regards, Peter ___ QL-Users Mailing List http://www.q-v-d.demon.co.uk/smsqe.htm ___ QL-Users Mailing List http://www.q-v-d.demon.co.uk/smsqe.htm ___ QL-Users Mailing List http://www.q-v-d.demon.co.uk/smsqe.htm ___ QL-Users Mailing List http://www.q-v-d.demon.co.uk/smsqe.htm
Re: [Ql-Users] QPC2 and Win 8
Hi Geoff, Thank you for coming back to me. I am very vague about making QXL.Wins but is the command that you have given me is used in Windows or QPC2? TIA Regards, Peter On 17.07.2015 17:10, Geoff Wicks wrote: When you formatted a win disk formerly it was saved on the C: drive. If you format a win disk under windows 8 it is saved in a subdirectory. I cannot remember the path but the command PRINT WIN_DRIVE(x), where x is the number of the drive, will give you the path. Sorry a typo. The command is PRINT WIN_DRIVE$(x) Best Wishes, Geoff ___ QL-Users Mailing List http://www.q-v-d.demon.co.uk/smsqe.htm ___ QL-Users Mailing List http://www.q-v-d.demon.co.uk/smsqe.htm
Re: [Ql-Users] QPC2 and Win 8
Hi Peter, can you help me on the other matter of increasing the size of QXL.win partitions, please? I've had this problem myself. What I did was to create another QXL.win file, formatted it to a much higher capacity, then copied all the files across. To preserve the original dates, I used ... COPY a$ TO b$ SET_FUPDT \b$, FUPDT(\a$) Michael ___ QL-Users Mailing List http://www.q-v-d.demon.co.uk/smsqe.htm
Re: [Ql-Users] QPC2 and Win 8
On 17/07/2015 18:07, peterfox wrote: Hi Geoff, Thank you for coming back to me. I am very vague about making QXL.Wins but is the command that you have given me is used in Windows or QPC2? From within QPC2. I can understand your problem as I have also been grappling with it this week. Usually I save basic to a dos file as it is not corrupted, but I am now working on the last stages of the 2015 edition of my General Election program and needed a a pure QL environment. I set up a temporary win3 file to do this and discovered quite a lot in doing so, Best wishes, Geoff ___ QL-Users Mailing List http://www.q-v-d.demon.co.uk/smsqe.htm
Re: [Ql-Users] QPC2 and Win 8
On 17/07/2015 10:06, Marcel Kilgus wrote: I have no idea how you even managed to do put them there in Windows 8, this should be pretty much impossible for normal users. Also, they would be write protected there. Note for everybody: DO NOT PUT FILES IN C:\ Search your drive for other copies of QXL.WIN which are more recent. The ones in C:\ are obviously not the ones you're actually working with. Marcel I have had a similar problem that I have only discovered this month and Marcel has explained the reason. When I went over to Windows 8, I transfered my .win files using a pen memory. The result was that I could read the win disk but not write. When you formatted a win disk formerly it was saved on the C: drive. If you format a win disk under windows 8 it is saved in a subdirectory. I cannot remember the path but the command PRINT WIN_DRIVE(x), where x is the number of the drive, will give you the path. Marcel is now going to slap me on the wrist for being a naughty boy, because I copied the win drive from the subdirectory to C:. Even here I can both read and write, Best Wishes, Geoff ___ QL-Users Mailing List http://www.q-v-d.demon.co.uk/smsqe.htm
Re: [Ql-Users] QPC2 and Win 8
When you formatted a win disk formerly it was saved on the C: drive. If you format a win disk under windows 8 it is saved in a subdirectory. I cannot remember the path but the command PRINT WIN_DRIVE(x), where x is the number of the drive, will give you the path. Sorry a typo. The command is PRINT WIN_DRIVE$(x) Best Wishes, Geoff ___ QL-Users Mailing List http://www.q-v-d.demon.co.uk/smsqe.htm
Re: [Ql-Users] QPC2 and Win 8
Evening all. If you he'd over to Dilwyn's Web repository of all that is good in the QL World, and download my old Winback program, you can create a new hard drive file as win2, then set the clock and make a full backup of your current win1. Winback will set the win2 file dates etc exactly as per the original files on win1. HTH. Cheers, Norm. On 17 July 2015 18:33:59 BST, Michael Bulford michaelbulf...@yahoo.co.uk wrote: Hi Peter, can you help me on the other matter of increasing the size of QXL.win partitions, please? I've had this problem myself. What I did was to create another QXL.win file, formatted it to a much higher capacity, then copied all the files across. To preserve the original dates, I used ... COPY a$ TO b$ SET_FUPDT \b$, FUPDT(\a$) Michael ___ QL-Users Mailing List http://www.q-v-d.demon.co.uk/smsqe.htm -- Sent from my Android device with K-9 Mail. Please excuse my brevity. ___ QL-Users Mailing List http://www.q-v-d.demon.co.uk/smsqe.htm
Re: [Ql-Users] QPC2 and Win 8
On 17/07/2015 10:36, Peter Fox wrote:
Unfortuantely, I cannot remember how to increase the size of the QXL files
because I have
run out of space in QXL.win
Can anyone help please?
TIA and Regards,
Here is a description on how to increase the size of your QLX.WIN
drive on QPC2.
Say you want to enlarge your 10Mb boot drive (win1_) to 20Mb. We'll
use win8_ as an intermediary drive in this example.
win$ = WIN_DRIVE$(1): PRINT win$
This is where your boot drive is located under Windoze now. (I assume
youve taken Marcel's advice about a suitable location, meanwhile.)
Now create a new QXL.WIN drive as win8_:
WIN_DRIVE 8, win$ '.new': REMark Same location, new name
WIN_FORMAT 8, 1: REMark Allow formatting of this drive
FORMAT win8_20: REMark New size is 20Mb
Type in characters requested at console #0
Voilà! Your spanking new QXL.WIN drive is ready to use.
Now run the following script in your standard three-window SBASIC
interpreter to clone the structure and files of win1_ onto win8_:
10 REMark QLone a drive
11 :
12 source$ = 'win1_'
13 target$ = 'win8_'
14 :
15 CLS
16 PRINT 'Press ENTER to clone'! source$! 'to'! target$!: INPUT r$
17 IF r$ '': STOP
18 :
19 dcount = 0: fcount = 0: ttaken = DATE
20 ERT QLone(source$, '', target$)
21 PRINT\ 'Done!'
22 PRINT dcount! 'directories created'\ fcount! 'files copied'
23 PRINT 'Time taken'! (DATE - ttaken);'s'
24 :
25 DEFine FuNction QLone(sdv$, dir$, tdv$)
26 LOCal ch, lp, fl, ps, er, ty%, nm$
27 REMark GLObal counts
28 REMark Scan source directory tree and
29 REMark Create correponding structure under target
30 REMark Backup files, maintaining date
31 REMark V0.00, pjwitte, January 30th 2015
32 :
33 ch = FOP_DIR(sdv$ dir$): IF ch 0: RETurn ch
34 :
35 ps = 0: er = 0: fl = FLEN(#ch)
36 REPeat lp
37 IF ps = fl: EXIT lp
38 GET#ch\ ps + 14; nm$: l% = LEN(nm$)
39 IF l% 0 THEN
40 BGET#ch\ ps + 5, ty%
41 IF ty% = 255 THEN
42 PRINT 'Creating: '! tdv$; nm$
43 er = FMAKE_DIR(tdv$ nm$): IF er = -8: er = 0
44 IF er 0: RETurn er
45 dcount = dcount + 1
46 er = QLone(sdv$, nm$, tdv$)
47 ELSE
48 PRINT 'Copying:'! sdv$; nm$! '..'
49 COPY_O sdv$ nm$ TO tdv$ nm$
50 SET_FUPDT \tdv$ nm$, FUPDT(\sdv$ nm$)
51 fcount = fcount + 1
52 END IF
53 END IF
54 IF er 0: EXIT lp
55 ps = ps + 64
56 END REPeat lp
57 CLOSE#ch
58 RETurn er
59 END DEFine QLone
60 :
Now unlink the two drives to allow the new drive to become the new
boot drive:
Remember the location of your win1_, eg
win$ = WIN_DRIVE$(1): PRINT win$
WIN_DRIVE 1,'/': WIN_DRIVE 8,'/'
Minimize QPC2. In Windows Explorer go to that location and delete,
move or rename your old boot drive, and rename the new QXL.WIN file to
the name you use for your boot drive. Back in QPC2 again enter:
WIN_DRIVE 1, win$
WIN_FORMAT 8, 0
To top it all off, you could give your hard drive a name other than
WIN8. Assuming the locations used above (else modify line 14 in the
script below) enter the name you wish to see on the QL side, eg
'Boot', in line 15, and LRUN the script:
10 REMark Rename QLWA-type Hard drive
11 REMark V0.00, pjw
12 REMark No channels must be open on hard drive!
13 :
14 win% = 1 : REMark Drive number 1..8
15 name$ = 'System' : REMark New name
16 maxnl% = 10 : REMark Dont alter max length
17 :
18 name$ = name$ FILL$(' ', maxnl%)
19 cw = FOPEN(win win% '_*D2d'): ERT cw
20 GET#cw\ 0; sec$
21 IF sec$(1 TO 4) 'QLWA': CLOSE#cw: ERT -12
22 :
23 sec$ = sec$(1 TO 6) name$(1 TO maxnl%) sec$(17 TO LEN(sec$))
24 PUT#cw\ 0; sec$
25 CLOSE#cw
26 :
Please note, these programs are provided as examples to deal with the
specific situation described, as I understand it.
USE AT OWN RISK!!!
Note that minimal error checking and corrective action is performed in
these routines. They are quick hacks that normally get the job done
without finesse. If your original file system has become corrupt, for
example, it may not be possible to make a copy using QLone.
Good luck!
Per
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Re: [Ql-Users] QPC2 and Win 8
On 17/07/2015 17:27, François Van Emelen wrote: Op 17/07/2015 om 11:38 schreef peterfox: Hi Marcel, I have had another look on C: and it is not obvious. Any Suggestions, please? How can one create a larger QXL.Win, please? TIA Regards Peter Hi, I suppose you need the instructions to format a 'win'. The manual says: WIN_FORMAT 1 Allow WIN1_ to be formatted FORMAT WIN1_10 Create a 10 Megabyte WIN device on C: ... you have to echo the two characters displayed ... WIN_FORMAT 1,0 protect WIN1_ again against unwanted formatting As far as I know you can't modify to size of a 'QXL.WIN' you have to create a larger (or smaller) one and copy your files. Hope this helps. Have a nice day. François Van Emelen SNIP Yes, but make sure youre not formatting your boot drive! ;) Per ___ QL-Users Mailing List http://www.q-v-d.demon.co.uk/smsqe.htm
