Re: [RDA-L] Question about RDA relationships (App. J)

2010-03-05 Thread Weinheimer Jim
Bernhard Eversberg wrote: snip About any particular book, there can be many statements out in the open world of the Web. Provided there is a stable, reliable, unique, universally used identifier, going with every suchj statement, you're very nearly there. The ISBN and ISSN are not quite that

Re: [RDA-L] Question about RDA relationships (App. J)

2010-03-05 Thread Bernhard Eversberg
Weinheimer Jim wrote: I have a feeling that when they say work they mean something more like (in FRBR-speak) expression since I doubt there is much use in the world for a unique number for the entirety of Homer's Odyssey (except strictly for librarians) and they are thinking of specific

Re: [RDA-L] Question about RDA relationships (App. J)

2010-03-05 Thread Ed Jones
The ISBN has succeeded because it serves an extremely useful purpose in the book trade. Similarly, the DOI has experienced a modicum of success as a persistent identifier of scholarly articles, etc., because the major players have determined that the benefit justifies the cost, providing a

Re: [RDA-L] Question about RDA relationships (App. J)

2010-03-05 Thread Adam L. Schiff
In today's record, we would code this somewhat like: 100 $a Kurosawa, Akira $e director 245 $a Shichinin no samurai 246 $a Seven Samurai 500 $a Adapted as The Magnificent 7 730 $a Magnificent 7 Well I would change your 100 to a 700 to make this more like what we do in a bibliographic record.

[RDA-L] No RDA-L on Saturday March 6 and part of Sunday March 7

2010-03-05 Thread Leonard, William
Library and Archives Canada, the host of the RDA-L list, is scheduling maintenance on its systems on the weekend of March 6, 7, 2010. RDA-L will be unavailable for the duration. More information can be found at: http://www.collectionscanada.gc.ca/whats-new/013-442-e.html Major Interruption of

Re: [RDA-L] Question about RDA relationships (App. J)

2010-03-05 Thread Stephen Hearn
The web statements would presumably be derived from a large set of records, not from an individual record. The bib record for Sturges' Magnificent 7 if constructed the same way as the Kurosawa record would inferentially provide the data needed to create the statement establishing his

Re: [RDA-L] Question about RDA relationships (App. J)

2010-03-05 Thread Karen Coyle
Quoting Stephen Hearn s-h...@umn.edu: The web statements would presumably be derived from a large set of records, not from an individual record. The bib record for Sturges' Magnificent 7 if constructed the same way as the Kurosawa record would inferentially provide the data needed to create the

Re: [RDA-L] Question about RDA relationships (App. J)

2010-03-05 Thread Karen Coyle
Quoting Benjamin A Abrahamse babra...@mit.edu: This is perhaps only tangentially RDA-related. ... But if it was possible to convert MARC data into RDF-like statements, we could move away from what I see as a lot of the unnecessary work of thinking about and comparing *records*

Re: [RDA-L] Question about RDA relationships (App. J)

2010-03-05 Thread Kevin M. Randall
Ben Abrahamse wrote: For example, a library could decide to accept or ignore what MIT has to say about this particular work; or what MIT has to say about access points; or what MIT has to say at all, and their catalog could be configured to ignore or accept that particular statement if it

Re: [RDA-L] The recordless future (was: Question about RDA relationships (App. J)

2010-03-05 Thread J. McRee Elrod
Karen Coyle said: It is a 3-part data construct. The full description of a book will be made up of many statements. The big difference between what we do today and the recordless view is that each of these statements is able to be used independently of the context in which it was created.

Re: [RDA-L] The recordless future (was: Question about RDA relationships (App. J)

2010-03-05 Thread Karen Coyle
Quoting J. McRee Elrod m...@slc.bc.ca: Perhaps in your writing you should make in clearer that (1) we are not there yet, and that (2) individual cataloguing agencies will not be replacing national catalogue agency records with upstream data. OCLC is already taking in publisher data, as is