[RDA-L] Naming works question

2012-08-27 Thread Adam L. Schiff
I have two publications with the same title proper, one of which is a summary of the other: 245 00 Water availability in the Ovens : $b a report to the Australian Government from the CSIRO Murray-Darling Basin Sustainable Yields Project. 264 #1 [Clayton South, Victoria] : $b CSIRO, $c [2008]

Re: [RDA-L] Naming works question

2012-08-27 Thread Jenifer K Marquardt
I know, Adam, that you are really asking an RDA related question. But we have had such records merged before in OCLC. In those cases, in addition to other fields there might be in the record to distinguish the two works, OCLC has advised us to bracket an edition statement in the 250. Jenifer

Re: [RDA-L] Naming works question

2012-08-27 Thread Kevin M Randall
Adam Schiff wrote: The question that I have is how best to distinguish between the source work and the derivative work. On the record for the summary I could add the following: 787 08 $i Summary of (work): $t Water availability in the Ovens but since the title is identical, this must

Re: [RDA-L] Naming works question

2012-08-27 Thread Layne, Sara
I agree with Kevin. But would you also need to add (Report) to the reciprocal 787? Sara (who doesn't yet catalog in RDA) Sara Shatford Layne Principal Cataloger UCLA Library Cataloging Metadata Center sla...@library.ucla.edu -Original Message- From: Resource Description and Access /

Re: [RDA-L] Naming works question

2012-08-27 Thread Robert Maxwell
I think many of the linking fields (including 787) are best used to record manifestation-level relationships. If I were recording a work-level relationship, I'd probably use 730 in this case, with an authorized access point for the work; as you say, at least one of them would need to be

Re: [RDA-L] Naming works question

2012-08-27 Thread Robert Maxwell
Yes, this is a good question. I don't think we've resolved yet whether once there is a conflict BOTH names/titles need to be qualified or just one. Bob Robert L. Maxwell Special Collections and Ancient Languages Catalog Librarian Genre/Form Authorities Librarian 6728 Harold B. Lee Library

Re: [RDA-L] Naming works question

2012-08-27 Thread J. McRee Elrod
Adam L. Schiff said: The question that I have is how best to distinguish between the source work and the derivative work. Margaret Mann advocated the sort of qualification you propose. It is my understanding the RDA does not allow it, apart from something like (Conference) after an initialism

Re: [RDA-L] Naming works question

2012-08-27 Thread Gene Fieg
How about that old standby: Selections. And then use the cutter of the main work and add a 2 to it. On Mon, Aug 27, 2012 at 2:44 PM, Adam L. Schiff asch...@u.washington.eduwrote: I have two publications with the same title proper, one of which is a summary of the other: 245 00 Water

Re: [RDA-L] Naming works question

2012-08-27 Thread Brenndorfer, Thomas
From: Resource Description and Access / Resource Description and Access [RDA-L@LISTSERV.LAC-BAC.GC.CA] On Behalf Of J. McRee Elrod [m...@slc.bc.ca] Sent: August-27-12 7:39 PM To: RDA-L@LISTSERV.LAC-BAC.GC.CA Subject: Re: [RDA-L] Naming works question The

Re: [RDA-L] Naming works question

2012-08-27 Thread Adam L. Schiff
On Mon, 27 Aug 2012, J. McRee Elrod wrote: Adam L. Schiff said: The question that I have is how best to distinguish between the source work and the derivative work. Margaret Mann advocated the sort of qualification you propose. It is my understanding the RDA does not allow it, apart from

Re: [RDA-L] Naming works question

2012-08-27 Thread Layne, Sara
In the current infrastructure, adding a uniform title/preferred title for the work (with the qualifier included) to each record would make it possible (although not easy) for the computer to look up the work cited. Wouldn't it? Sara Sara Shatford Layne Principal Cataloger UCLA Library

Re: [RDA-L] Naming works question

2012-08-27 Thread Adam L. Schiff
Jonathan, In this case, yes there is a bib. record with a 130 field with Water availability in the Ovens (Summary) and another bib. record with a 130 with Water availability in the Ovens (Full report). Also note your $t in the 730 field should have been a $a. In 787 though, it would be $s

Re: [RDA-L] Naming works question

2012-08-27 Thread J. McRee Elrod
Adam said: RDA definitely allows the addition of qualifiers to distinguish works with the same title ... But not in 245 where they would be most helpful, and where Margaret Mann would have them (pre MARC), right? I can't seem to find a good relationship designator for the access point made