Re: [RDA-L] eBooks Playaways

2013-03-18 Thread Goldfarb, Kathie
/ Resource Description and Access [mailto:RDA-L@LISTSERV.LAC-BAC.GC.CA] On Behalf Of M. E. Sent: Tuesday, March 12, 2013 4:27 PM To: RDA-L@LISTSERV.LAC-BAC.GC.CA Subject: Re: [RDA-L] eBooks Playaways Robert Maxwell robert_maxw...@byu.edu wrote: In my opinion a Playaway is unmediated. You don't need

Re: [RDA-L] eBooks Playaways

2013-03-18 Thread Kelley McGrath
On Fri, Mar 15, 2013 at 4:24 PM, Robert Maxwell robert_maxw...@byu.edu wrote: Yes, I might have a different opinion if you could move information on and off a Playaway. But they exist as a dedicated player for a single book. No mediation is required to use one. I don't see why it would make a

Re: [RDA-L] eBooks Playaways

2013-03-15 Thread Kelley McGrath
I guess I'm not sure that a Playaway is unmediated. It's just that the mediation is transparent to the end user. The user doesn't have to put a disc in; they just put in batteries and push play. Mediation for digital content is likely to become increasingly transparent. In a sense everything

Re: [RDA-L] eBooks Playaways

2013-03-15 Thread Layne, Sara
AM To: RDA-L@LISTSERV.LAC-BAC.GC.CA Subject: Re: [RDA-L] eBooks Playaways I guess I'm not sure that a Playaway is unmediated. It's just that the mediation is transparent to the end user. The user doesn't have to put a disc in; they just put in batteries and push play. Mediation for digital

Re: [RDA-L] eBooks Playaways

2013-03-15 Thread Brenndorfer, Thomas
and Access / Resource Description and Access [mailto:RDA-L@LISTSERV.LAC-BAC.GC.CA] On Behalf Of Kelley McGrath Sent: March-15-13 2:48 PM To: RDA-L@LISTSERV.LAC-BAC.GC.CA Subject: Re: [RDA-L] eBooks Playaways I guess I'm not sure that a Playaway is unmediated. It's just that the mediation

Re: [RDA-L] eBooks Playaways

2013-03-15 Thread Benjamin A Abrahamse
] On Behalf Of Layne, Sara Sent: Friday, March 15, 2013 2:58 PM To: RDA-L@listserv.lac-bac.gc.ca Subject: Re: [RDA-L] eBooks Playaways Maybe we need a new media type (or would it be an unmediated carrier type??) that is something like interactive?? In all the examples so far (Playaway, music box

Re: [RDA-L] eBooks Playaways

2013-03-15 Thread Joan Wang
Is Playaway a storage medium (carrier) as well as a player medium? Probably a stupid question :) Thanks, Joan Wang On Fri, Mar 15, 2013 at 1:48 PM, Kelley McGrath kell...@uoregon.edu wrote: I guess I'm not sure that a Playaway is unmediated. It's just that the mediation is transparent to the

Re: [RDA-L] eBooks Playaways

2013-03-15 Thread Joan Wang
Sorry. should be a playing medium. On Fri, Mar 15, 2013 at 2:41 PM, Joan Wang jw...@illinoisheartland.orgwrote: Is Playaway a storage medium (carrier) as well as a player medium? Probably a stupid question :) Thanks, Joan Wang On Fri, Mar 15, 2013 at 1:48 PM, Kelley McGrath

Re: [RDA-L] eBooks Playaways

2013-03-15 Thread Pam Withrow
If we back up to 3.2.1.1. in the toolkit we find: Scope Media type▼http://access.rdatoolkit.org/document.php?id=rdaglosstarget=rdagloss-104#rdagloss-104 is a categorization reflecting the general type of intermediation device required to view, play, run, etc., the content of a resource. Because

Re: [RDA-L] eBooks Playaways

2013-03-15 Thread Robert Maxwell
R. Snow, 1842. -Original Message- From: Resource Description and Access / Resource Description and Access [mailto:RDA-L@LISTSERV.LAC-BAC.GC.CA] On Behalf Of Kelley McGrath Sent: Friday, March 15, 2013 12:48 PM To: RDA-L@LISTSERV.LAC-BAC.GC.CA Subject: Re: [RDA-L] eBooks Playaways I guess

Re: [RDA-L] eBooks Playaways

2013-03-15 Thread J. McRee Elrod
Sara said: Maybe we need a new media type (or would it be an unmediated carrier type??) that is something like interactive?? ... I agree we need an additional term. Other is very uninformative. The MRIs have one: equipment. Even for a print book, one (or some of us) must put on our bifocals,

Re: [RDA-L] eBooks Playaways

2013-03-14 Thread M. E.
Ian Fairclough ifairclough43...@yahoo.com wrote: Granted that a Playaway can be judged as unmediated. But nevertheless, something that arose earlier in this discussion caught my attention: the suggested use of other with media type audio. Surely other is only established as controlled

[RDA-L] eBooks Playaways

2013-03-14 Thread Ian Fairclough
RDA-L readers, Thanks to Mark Ehlert for the correction to my earlier post.  Here are the instructions he refers to.  Curiously, 3.2.1.3 has a table, but 3.3.1.3 does not.  6.9.1.3 has a table and also a link from the sentence to the head of the table. 3.2.1.3 RecordingMedia Type: If none of

Re: [RDA-L] eBooks Playaways

2013-03-14 Thread Joan Wang
Apparently it is not easy to make paragraphs and sentences consistent. I am kidding. Have fun :) Joan Wang Illinois Heartland Library System On Thu, Mar 14, 2013 at 11:20 AM, Ian Fairclough ifairclough43...@yahoo.com wrote: RDA-L readers, Thanks to Mark Ehlert for the correction to my

[RDA-L] eBooks Playaways

2013-03-13 Thread Ian Fairclough
RDA-L readers: Granted that a Playaway can be judged as unmediated.  But nevertheless, something that arose earlier in this discussion caught my attention: the suggested use of other with media type audio.  Surely other is only established as controlled vocabulary for use when 338 =

Re: [RDA-L] eBooks Playaways

2013-03-12 Thread M. E.
Pam Withrow withr...@perma-bound.com wrote: Playaway Audio 336 - spoken word 337 - audio 338 - audio cartridge In my opinion: 336 -- spoken word 337 -- audio 338 -- other A Playaway Audio doesn't quite fit under the definition of an audio cartridge (a cartridge containing audio tape). --

Re: [RDA-L] eBooks Playaways

2013-03-12 Thread Pam Withrow
Thank you for your opinion. I agree that audio cartridge is not a good fit. It looks like we will continue to hash this one out. --Pam On Tue, Mar 12, 2013 at 3:16 PM, M. E. m.k.e.m...@gmail.com wrote: Pam Withrow withr...@perma-bound.com wrote: Playaway Audio 336 - spoken word 337 -

Re: [RDA-L] eBooks Playaways

2013-03-12 Thread Robert Maxwell
: [RDA-L] eBooks Playaways Pam Withrow withr...@perma-bound.commailto:withr...@perma-bound.com wrote: Playaway Audio 336 - spoken word 337 - audio 338 - audio cartridge In my opinion: 336 -- spoken word 337 -- audio 338 -- other A Playaway Audio doesn't quite fit under the definition of an audio

Re: [RDA-L] eBooks Playaways

2013-03-12 Thread J. McRee Elrod
Mark said: In my opinion: 336 -- spoken word 337 -- audio 338 -- other A Playaway Audio doesn't quite fit under the definition of an audio cartridge (a cartridge containing audio tape). I agree with Mark, but did not comment on this originally because of the uselessness of other. The MRIs have

Re: [RDA-L] eBooks Playaways

2013-03-12 Thread Pam Withrow
--Eliza R. Snow, 1842. ** ** *From:* Resource Description and Access / Resource Description and Access [mailto:RDA-L@LISTSERV.LAC-BAC.GC.CA] *On Behalf Of *M. E. *Sent:* Tuesday, March 12, 2013 2:16 PM *To:* RDA-L@LISTSERV.LAC-BAC.GC.CA *Subject:* Re: [RDA-L] eBooks Playaways

Re: [RDA-L] eBooks Playaways

2013-03-12 Thread Pam Withrow
Yes, other leaves a lot to the imagination! --Pam On Tue, Mar 12, 2013 at 4:35 PM, J. McRee Elrod m...@slc.bc.ca wrote: Mark said: In my opinion: 336 -- spoken word 337 -- audio 338 -- other A Playaway Audio doesn't quite fit under the definition of an audio cartridge (a cartridge

Re: [RDA-L] eBooks Playaways

2013-03-12 Thread M. E.
Robert Maxwell robert_maxw...@byu.edu wrote: In my opinion a Playaway is unmediated. You don’t need anything other than the object itself (and a source of electricity) to get the information, in contrast to, say, a CD, which you need to put in a machine in order to use. Good point. I

[RDA-L] eBooks Playaways

2013-03-08 Thread Pam Withrow
Good morning, May I please get some feedback on the following? This is the way RDA reads to me: eBook 336 - text 337 - computer 338 - online resource Playaway Audio 336 - spoken word 337 - audio 338 - audio cartridge Thank you very much, *Pamela Withrow, MLIS* Cataloger Perma-Bound