Re: [RDA-L] Systems v Cataloging was: RDA and granularity

2010-02-04 Thread Weinheimer Jim
Jonathan, I think we are in agreement on this. Certainly, MARC needs to change substantially from its origins in the 1960s as a way to produce and maintain catalog cards more efficiently, which then turned into a way for libraries to share cards more efficiently using tools such as OCLC, RLIN

Re: [RDA-L] Google Exposes Book Metadata Privates at ALA Forum

2010-02-04 Thread Bernhard Eversberg
Weinheimer Jim schrieb: This is a description of a very interesting meeting over metadata, with many groups involved. http://go-to-hellman.blogspot.com/2010/01/google-exposes-book-metadata-privates.html Most edifying as well as sobering indeed. Do we conclude that ONIX should replace MARC?

Re: [RDA-L] Google Exposes Book Metadata Privates at ALA Forum

2010-02-04 Thread Christoph Schmidt-Supprian
Does that mean alphabetical index displays of names, titles, subjects etc. can safely be considered dead? I, for one, happen to like them. As a user, I always find it frustrating whenever I can't sort a list according to some transparent logic, be it alphabetical or chronological or by another

Re: [RDA-L] Google Exposes Book Metadata Privates at ALA Forum

2010-02-04 Thread Weinheimer Jim
Bernhard Eversberg wrote: snip Karen Coyle said in that meeting: ... the team tried to figure out when alphabetical sorting was really required, and the answer turned out to be 'never'. Does that mean alphabetical index displays of names, titles, subjects etc. can safely be considered dead? We've

Re: [RDA-L] Google Exposes Book Metadata Privates at ALA Forum

2010-02-04 Thread Bernhard Eversberg
Browsing by title may not be that important today with keyword retrieval since people should be able to sort in other ways. I believe that is the only place for non-filing indicators (other than series titles), but I may be wrong? They were only talking about books at that meeting, weren't

[RDA-L] RDA in Europe: making it happen! Seminar in Copenhagen 8th of August 2010

2010-02-04 Thread Anders Cato
RDA in Europe: making it happen! EURIG - JSC Seminar on RDA Copenhagen, Denmark, 8th of August 2010, 09.00-17.00 First notification! On the 8th of August 2010 the European RDA Interest Group (EURIG) and the Joint Steering Committee for Development of RDA (JSC) are planning a seminar on the new

Re: [RDA-L] Utlility of ISBD/MARC vs. URIs (Was: Systems ...)

2010-02-04 Thread J. McRee Elrod
Bernhard Eversberg said: For everyday use, URIs are much too cumbersome. Absolutely true! Try a verbal tag for the difference between MARC 130 and 240 for example. MARC's language neutral number tags were a stroke of genius. imposes structure where it isn't helpful (e.g., where it was based

Re: [RDA-L] Utility of MARC (Was: Systems ,,,)

2010-02-04 Thread J. McRee Elrod
James Wwinheimer said: I think we are in agreement on this. Certainly, MARC needs to change substantially from its origins in the 1960s ... I can think of some changes needed: restore ISBD order, e.g., ISBD Area 0 as opposed to fields 336-338; clean up the messy order of numbering in 5XX;

[RDA-L] RDA Webinar - RDA Toolkit: A Guided Tour!

2010-02-04 Thread Troy Linker
ALA publishing is giving the same presentation we did at ALA midwinter as a Webinar for anyone interested to see a demo of the RDA Toolkit beta site. We will give the same presentation twice at different times of day in hopes of covering as may people as possible. These are the first of

Re: [RDA-L] Filing order (Was: Google ...)

2010-02-04 Thread Kelleher, Martin
Well, we recently put a quick search box on the library homepage (i.e. keyword only, with no other initial other options), and slightly obscured the link to the main catalogue options for left-anchored searches, and although there was an increase in keyword searching, left anchored title

[RDA-L] NETSL Award 2010: Deadline Extended!

2010-02-04 Thread Helen L
Good news! The New England Technical Services Librarians (NETSL) Executive Board has extended the nomination deadline for its annual NETSL Award for Excellence in Library Technical Services. We know you've got someone in mind. They've inspired you by meeting challenges head on; they're innovative