According to an article in this morning's Philadelphia Inquirer
[http://www.philly.com/mld/philly/news/local/13116793.htm (a free
subscription site)], voters in Dover, Pa., where the intelligent design
curriculum trial recently concluded, replaced all 8 Republican school
board members who were
I'd say the voluntary cessation doctrine would cover anything that
might appear moot here.
Ann
On Nov 9, 2005, at 7:56 AM, James Maule wrote:
According to an article in this morning's Philadelphia Inquirer
[http://www.philly.com/mld/philly/news/local/13116793.htm (a free
subscription
In a message dated 11/9/2005 9:45:19 A.M. Eastern Standard Time,
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I
can understand the political reasons for waiting for Judge Jones'
decision. But surely even if the Supreme Court decides in favor of the
old school board's decision, that decision cannot
Maggie Gallagher has a column today that links the riots in France to "France's religious oppression."
Here is a money excerpt, in which she quotes Seamus Hasson of Becket Fund:
Meanwhile, he says what France should have learned from its repression of religious minorities, but hasn't yet, is
Funny thing. I am listed as one of the
content contributors to the text and it has been some while since I was last
described as a fundamentalist Christian. This is best understood as ADL trying
to be more Catholic than the Pope.
Marc
Stern
American Jewish Congress
From:
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From: Rick Garnett [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Tuesday, November 08, 2005 8:27 PM
Subject: Fwd: The EAA, Catholics, and Religious Freedom
. . .
Dear all,
For what it is worth -- and I say this as someone who is not unconcerned
about maintaining Catholic
I was sad to see the leaders of the intelligent design movement in
Pennsylvania lose their seats in yesterday's election. For a long time, the
supporters of evolution have been acting like thick headed Neanderthals.
They will not tolerate any other view but their own in the public schools.
Marc (and everyone). This is not the text put out by the Bible Literacy Project, The
Bible and Its Influence. (Marc and I were among 40 reviewrs/contributors
to the BLP text.) This is the material distreibuted
by the National Council on Religion in Public Schools. I support the first, but
James Maule wrote:
According to an article in this morning's Philadelphia Inquirer
[http://www.philly.com/mld/philly/news/local/13116793.htm (a free
subscription site)], voters in Dover, Pa., where the intelligent design
curriculum trial recently concluded, replaced all 8 Republican school
Intelligent design is neither false nor true -- it is religous
belief and thus has no place in a science class; teaching it in a
comparative religion class makes sense. Mr. New's comments below are
either ironic (in which case they are quite funny) or he simply does not
understand science
Rick Duncan wrote:
Maggie Gallagher has a column
today that links the riots in France to "France's religious oppression."
Here is a money excerpt, in which she quotes Seamus Hasson of
Becket Fund: Meanwhile, he says what France should have learned
from its repression of religious
On Wed, 9 Nov 2005 [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
I am not searching for conspiracies behind large oaks on dimly lit streets,
but what impact would the immediate decision of the board, on their own
judgments about intelligent design vs evolution, to eliminate ID instruction
have
on the
Ann is right that a school board abandoning its (allegedly)
unconstitutional conduct does not moot the case or make an injunction
unnecessary as a matter of remedial discretion. But a new set of
officials, with no history of engaging in the challenged conduct and who
disclaim any intent
Ed, when do you think the article will be published? And is it an online
journal. Thanks, Bobby.
Robert Justin
LipkinProfessor of LawWidener University School of
LawDelaware
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And you still overreach with a straw man
argument. I have taken no position on the desirability of amending EAA. Why
cant you understand that?
From: Berg, Thomas C.
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Sent: Tuesday, November 08, 2005
5:28 PM
To: 'Law
Religion issues for Law Academics'
You keep trivializing the Mass, saying that there has to be something
deeper than the Mass for a Catholic. Where do you get this from?
Don't you think that you ought to disclose that? That is all that I
said. (For what it is worth, I believe that you have accused me, on
more than one occasion,
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
Ed, when do you think the article will be published? And is it
an online journal. Thanks, Bobby.
It is in Skeptic, a print magazine, though my understanding is that
this article will be made available on their online version as well as
the print
Folks: The list operates best if we avoid manifestoes -- and
insults of others, including prominent people who aren't on the list --
and provide more careful analysis. This is a best practices
suggestion, not a firm list behavior rule; thick headed Neanderthals
said about an ideological
Well, here's the quote that Prof. Newsom seems to be alluding
to: In case it wasn't clear, my point is that Catholics today are (I
hope and believe) quite different from Catholics of 500 years ago, and
more open to genuine alliance with, respect towards, and even affection
towards
Let me also say the same about calling other list members' views
nonsense -- softer language is more likely to persuade, and to foster
thoughtful discussion. Our goal should be to provide light, not heat.
Eugene
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Other commentators have pointed to the
problem of racial and ethnic discrimination as the possible proximate cause of
the current difficulties. Many of the disaffected French Muslim children of
immigrants may be reacting not a secular state, but to a society in which they
cannot find jobs.
I'll just credit Professor Newsom with noting that the EAA can have
disparate impacts, and I'll retire from the discussion.
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From: Newsom Michael [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Wed 11/9/2005 11:01 AM
To: Law Religion issues for Law Academics
Subject: RE: FYI: An Interesting See You at
Sorry for the delay in responding. Nothing I've seen answers your
question, though perhaps I didn't look in the right places.
Jim
[EMAIL PROTECTED] 11/9/2005 9:44:49 AM
I can understand the political reasons for waiting for Judge Jones'
decision. But surely even if the Supreme Court
Here's what the court said about the restriction on Bishop's
optional classes. (I set aside the restrictions on Bishop's in-class
remarks, which strike me as raising some slightly different matters.)
As for the after-class meetings, the University has concluded
that meetings on
Sorry;
I missed the question here.
The
exceptions and provisos to the Equal Access Act are badly drafted -- 5 clauses
that should be parallel but in fact are radically nonparallel -- so
interpretation is sometimes difficult. But the Equal Access Act provision
that religious groups
Maybe the new board members would like to see a court ruling striking
down the old policy. If they change the policy before the court rules,
the case may be deemed moot and the court could dismiss it on those
grounds.
*
Howard M. Friedman
Disting. Univ.
That sounds right to me. The professor separates the study group from
his work and professional responsibilities (classes, advising etc) by
time, location, disclaimer, the way the study group is announced etc.
There is no reason for the University to restrict his activities.
Alan Brownstein
Doug, Instead of
referring toyourarticle as "aging work," it would be appropriate to
call it "classic work" given that the courts have cited itfrequently for
about 2 decades now. Not a bad record.
Kim Colby
Christian Legal
Society
From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On
Thanks.
Douglas Laycock
University of Texas Law School
727 E. Dean Keeton St.
Austin, TX 78705
512-232-1341 (phone)
512-471-6988 (fax)
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[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Kim
ColbySent: Wednesday, November 09, 2005 2:37 PMTo: 'Law
Religion issues for Law
My Webster's New World Dictionary includes two non-obsolete meanings for
candor: 1. the quality of being open-minded or fair; impartiality. 2.
honesty in expressing oneself; sincerity; frankness.
The first definition surprised me. I do not use candor in that sense, nor
would I understand it in
I did reply, and I meant no accusation of dishonesty.
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From: Scarberry, Mark [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Wednesday, November 09, 2005 2:26 PM
To: 'Law Religion issues for Law Academics'
Subject: RE: Candor
My Webster's New World Dictionary includes two
I too hadn't heard of the impartiality meaning of candor,
but I'm pleased to know that this was what was intended, and that Prof.
Newsom wasn't accusing me of dishonesty or insincerity. I naturally
think that my original assertions were fair and, I hope, accurate
(insofar as they were
Mark, et al:
The first definition you cite is actually the one I think of usually. It is
the intention behind the Declaration of Independence's line, let facts be
submitted to a candid world. (The toga candida was the white robe worn by
Roman office-seekers, meant to imply their impartiality;
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