RE: FW from Chip Lupu: Elane Photography

2009-12-17 Thread Mark Tushnet
I'd appreciate an explanation of why the house photography case is harder if the refusal to photograph rests on a religious objection (for example, that one's religious beliefs require that one not facilitate the economic flourishing of gays). Mark Tushnet William Nelson Cromwell Professor

RE: Conflicts between religious exefcise and gay rights

2008-08-04 Thread Mark Tushnet
In connection with this discussion, it might be worth noting that prior to the Civil War there was, in the South, quite a vigorous discussion of why slavery was sancitoned by the Bible, and -- toward the end of the pre-war period -- why it was mandated by Ciristianity properly understood. Mark

RE: Sorry, wrong link to the homeschooling case

2008-03-05 Thread Mark Tushnet
Mightn't this be an ordinary sincerity case? Mark Tushnet William Nelson Cromwell Professor of Law 223 Areeda Hall Harvard Law School Cambridge, MA 02138 ph: 617-496-4451 (office); 202-374-9571 (mobile); 617-496-4866 (fax) -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL

RE: IIED and vagueness

2007-11-02 Thread Mark Tushnet
, the functions of which I am ignorant.) Mark Tushnet William Nelson Cromwell Professor of Law Harvard Law School Areeda 223 Cambridge, MA 02138 ph: 617-496-4451 (office); 202-374-9571 (mobile) From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] on behalf of Esenberg, Richard Sent: Fri

Re: Christian Skating Time

2006-07-03 Thread Mark Tushnet
in that sentence, substitute a version that invokes Chevron-like deference to legal interpretations proferred by administrative agencies.) -- Mark Tushnet William Nelson Cromwell Professor of Law Harvard Law School Areeda 223 Cambridge, MA 02138 Quoting David Cruz [EMAIL PROTECTED]: On Mon, 3 Jul 2006

RE: Christian Skating Time

2006-07-03 Thread Mark Tushnet
Let me express my doubts about this assertion -- No one would doubt that a Christian music concert could be held (and advertised) -- where the presenter is a for-profit business. (A genuine question: How do for-profit concert promoters advertise concerts by Christian rock groups?) -- Mark

RE: Christian Skating Time

2006-07-03 Thread Mark Tushnet
related reasons, on his right to express his deeply held racist views by means of expressive conduct) says something very bad about the state of the First Amendment law as Eugene would construct it. -- Mark Tushnet William Nelson Cromwell Professor of Law Harvard Law School Areeda 223 Cambridge, MA

Re: RE: RE: Taxpayer Standing

2006-05-06 Thread Mark Tushnet
-6988 (fax) -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Mark Tushnet Sent: Friday, May 05, 2006 6:04 AM To: Law Religion issues for Law Academics Subject: Re: RE: Taxpayer Standing The standard answer on taxpayer standing in Mitchell

Re: Use of Religion to Achieve Secular Ends

2006-05-06 Thread Mark Tushnet
Coming late to this thread, and noting that the discussion has gone off in a different direction, I'd simply reinforce Marty's observation that the view that 'religious transformation [and] faith' are good (when freely embraced) is a theological proposition, by noting that it's perfectly

Re: RE: Taxpayer Standing

2006-05-05 Thread Mark Tushnet
The standard answer on taxpayer standing in Mitchell is that the criteria differ for state taxpayer standing and federal taxpayer standing. The distinction goes back a long way, although I doubt that it has ever been rationalized well. Content-Type: multipart/alternative;

Re: St. Paul City Office Boots Easter Bunny

2006-03-27 Thread Mark Tushnet
I can't tell from the news story whether the bunny was part of the secretary's personal space or whether it was in a space concededly under the control of the city council, although the story suggests the latter (it appears that the city council president directed that the bunny be removed,

Re: Sabbatarians and deadlines

2006-03-24 Thread Mark Tushnet
This isn't the kind of thing I think about a lot, but I wonder what (if any) assumptions are made -- in the question anjd by the hypothesized state institution -- about the category Sabbatarians. I think the usual definition is those who obserfve their holy day on Saturday, and if that's

Re: Research question

2006-03-08 Thread Mark Tushnet
s any real (as distinct from rhetorical) interest in the movement in seeing that legislatures adopt such declarations. -- Mark Tushnet GeorgetownUniversity Law Center 600 New Jersey Ave. NW Washington , DC 20001 202-662-9106 (voice)

Research question

2006-03-07 Thread Mark Tushnet
could issue declarations that the United States is a Christian nation, and it is not clear to me that there is any real (as distinct from rhetorical) interest in the movement in seeing that legislatures adopt such declarations. -- Mark Tushnet Georgetown University Law Center 600 New Jersey Ave

Re: Research question

2006-03-07 Thread Mark Tushnet
tervene aginst state and local government under the incorporated EC. I hope this helps a little. I would be happy to discuss these matters with you. Rick Duncan Mark Tushnet [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I'm writing something in which I try to describe (in as neut! ral a way as I can) the litiga

Breaking news in federal RFRA case

2006-02-21 Thread Mark Tushnet
the Court ruled unanimously that the government may not ban a religious from using a herbal tea that contains a substance that the government considers to be harmful. The Chief Justice wrote the opinion. Only new Justice Samuel A. Alito, Jr., did not take part. -- from SCOTUS Blog -- Mark

Silent Night controversy

2005-12-14 Thread Mark Tushnet
I have no idea what the truth of the matter is, but here's a different account of what happened in connection with the Silent Night episode on which there was a post earlier today: http://thinkprogress.org/2005/12/14/silent-night-fraud begin:vcard n:Tushnet;Mark fn:Mark Tushnet,tushnet

Re: RE: The Holiday That Dare Not Speak Its Name

2005-11-28 Thread Mark Tushnet
The following is not directed at any particular participant in this thread, but those who have been on this list for more than a year know that this thread repeats one from last year (and, although memory fades, probably the year before that, and the year before that ...). I wonder if those

Re: Stephen Carter on what Christians should expect from the Supreme Court

2005-11-01 Thread Mark Tushnet
Having now read the article, I think it appropriate to quote what in my view is the deepest insight I've ever heard about religion and the Constitution (an insight not inconsistent, I think, with Carter's perspective). It's from the late John Howard Yoder, the Amish theologian, and -- I think

Re: New lawsuit against U Cal Berkeley

2005-10-19 Thread Mark Tushnet
I wonder whether this analysis can be reconciled (even on the level of quite plausible) with Lynch and Pinette, and the reasonable-observer-who-knows-a-fair-amount-of-the-context, etc., test for endorsement. Or, is the test for endorsement more stringent when the view endorsed is secularist

New lawsuit against U Cal Berkeley

2005-10-18 Thread Mark Tushnet
Any thoughts on this: http://insidehighered.com/news/2005/10/18/evolution . It's a report of a lawsuit filed against U Cal Berkeley for maintaining a web-site designed for high school teachers seeking information on evolution (the site is http://evolution.berkeley.edu/ ). The complaint

Re: New lawsuit against U Cal Berkeley

2005-10-18 Thread Mark Tushnet
Ed Brayton's post raises what I thought was the most interesting question raised by the lawsuit: Can the inclusion of one link (to what might be a non-neutral site) produce an Establishment Clause violation -- when the complaint does not (apparently) identify (according to the report)

Re: RE: New Pledge of Allegiance Case, and precential effect of Ninth Cir cuit's earlier Newdow decision

2005-09-14 Thread Mark Tushnet
Simply on the predictive issue: (1) Does the Ninth Circuit have a related cases rule, and (2) if so, would the appeal of this decision fall within the rule? - Original Message - From: Scarberry, Mark [EMAIL PROTECTED] Date: Wednesday, September 14, 2005 11:12 pm Subject: RE: New Pledge

Re: U.S. Denies Asylum for Persecuted Chinese Christian

2005-09-06 Thread Mark Tushnet
Or, it had better halt the proceeding that it (at the very least) continued after the initial determination favorable to Mr. Li, and resisted on Mr. Li's appeal to the Fifth Circuit. Brad M Pardee wrote: If the present administration expects to be seen as an advocate for religious freedom,

Re: UC system sued

2005-08-28 Thread Mark Tushnet
I thank Allen for the links to the UC guide, and find particularly helpful the unapproved courses link -- http://pathstat1.ucop.edu/ servlet/StoneGround?templateName=course_descriptions/ nonapproved -- and especially the descriptions of the criminal justice and forensic research courses.

Re: Findings on Hostility at Smithsonian Noted in NRO Article

2005-08-20 Thread Mark Tushnet
Might I suggest (a) that the limited number of participants in this thread (and related ones in the recent past), and (b) the comparative advantage of most list members in law rather than the philosophy of science, indicates that perhaps the thread has played itself out? Content-Type:

Re: Feature films on church and state

2005-08-12 Thread Mark Tushnet
I read the summary Rick directed us to, and I'm a bit puzzled. The doctor intervened in a situation where (the summary says) "there are only two options--surgery or death." As a result of the intervention, the alien boy's physical life is preserved, but in the end his parents kill him because,

Re: What causes more religious strife: Government bodies posting the Ten Commandments, or courts ordering their removal?

2005-08-04 Thread Mark Tushnet
I'm a few hours behind on these postings, so apologies in advance if this point has been made: Suppose that the inquiry into strife is not a direct touchstone, in the sense that asking whether X causes religious strife is relevant to deciding whether X is constitutional. Rather -- as I think

Re: Government criticism of the Supreme Court on religion-related materials

2005-07-12 Thread Mark Tushnet
I haven't commented on this thread, mostly because I thought the answer was pretty straight-forward from Justice Souter's invocation of common sense as a legal technique in addressing this kind of problem. I could get fancier about this (in the initial version, what does common sense tell you

Re: RE: Government criticism of the Supreme Court on religion-relatedmaterials

2005-07-12 Thread Mark Tushnet
I suppose that Eugene's reply is a demonstration of why invoking common sense is better than trying to get fancy about it. (But, I'm puzzled at how putting up a picture is a cogent argument but putting up a banner is not; I'll give you vivid in both cases, but -- at least where I come from --

Re: Rick Perry and separation of church and state

2005-06-06 Thread Mark Tushnet
s "endorsement" position). The problem as several postings are making clear, is what it means to "use one's official position." There are no bright lines,

Re: Stanford's Warning about Religion

2005-04-11 Thread Mark Tushnet
In connection with Rick's question, you might want to look around your campus for posters/signs with headlines like "Stop Psychiatric Abuse," and for tables with banners like "Stress Management" or "Stress Reduction." Also, this story -- Andy Newman, "Bumping Up Against Subway Regulations, New

Re: Wait, there's more: Leading ID think tank calls Dover evolution policy misguided, calls for it to be withdrawn

2004-12-15 Thread Mark Tushnet
I'm not sure that the following intervention will be productive, but: My sense is that this discussion has reached beyond the limits of list-relevance in its discussions of the substance of ID, evolutionary theory, etc. (I remember enough about physics from college to know that the law of

Re: The President and the Pope

2004-06-14 Thread Mark Tushnet
I have the feeling that this thread may have played itself out, but one matter hasn't come up -- whether there's a difference between a public statement soliciting support from religious leaders, etc., and a private conversation in which such support is solicited (and whether, in a world of

Re: The President and the Pope

2004-06-14 Thread Mark Tushnet
-- From: Mark Tushnet [EMAIL PROTECTED] Reply-To: Law Religion issues for Law Academics [EMAIL PROTECTED]Date: Mon, 14 Jun 2004 15:43:05 -0400 I have the feeling that this thread may have played itself out, but one matter hasn't come up -- whether there's a difference between a public

Re: Follow up as to the baptisms in the park

2004-05-27 Thread Mark Tushnet
I don't read the manager as saying that most public religious activities are prohibited in the park. As I read him, he's saying that such activities are allowed, but only in the shelters (as is true, as I read it, of political rallies and events by private companies [which I suppose might

Re: RE: Medical workers who don't want to participate in abortions

2004-05-15 Thread Mark Tushnet
I too wonder about the statutory interpretations Eugene proffers. Consider first the Illinois statute, which refers to physician, hospital, ambulatory surgical center, nor employee thereof. It seems to me to stretch this coverage language to include applicant for employment thereto. The

Re: Re: Axson-Flynn

2004-02-09 Thread Mark Tushnet
Coming in late on this: I've gone back and forth over the years about what to do about Cohen, although now I've settled in on using the word (on the ground that -- at least with my students -- the chances of offense are quite low). (I take it that the possibility of giving offense is relevant

Re: Is UCLA violating the Establishment Clause?

2004-01-27 Thread Mark Tushnet
The About This Site section of the web page says: The Lesbian Gay Bisexual Transgender Campus Resource Center is a department in Student and Campus Life, a division of the Student Affairs Organization under the direction of Vice Chancellor Winston Doby. The quoted material is the textual