RE: Noteworthy, puzzling scholars' brief in Arlene Flowers

2016-10-10 Thread Sisk, Gregory C.
[The following is a hypothetical only, as I don’t pretend to know everything about the parties and their views.] Suppose that you are a solo law practitioner in the town where Arlene’s Flowers is located. You have long known that Barronelle Stutzman has strong traditionalist religious views,

RE: Noteworthy, puzzling scholars' brief in Arlene Flowers

2016-10-10 Thread Laycock, H Douglas (hdl5c)
Eric, I agree that it is discrimination. I thought I was clear about that. I would grant a free exercise exemption, assuming another vendor is available without undue difficulty, principally for two reasons. First, for believers like Baronelle Stutzman, a wedding is an inherently religious

RE: "California Court Issues TRO Against Kaporos Practices"

2016-10-10 Thread Volokh, Eugene
I think that's right -- but I'm curious about whether there would indeed be viable objections to a criminal prosecution, whether for violation of the injunction or for violation of the underlying statute. (I assume that prosecution for violation of an injunction is more likely

RE: "California Court Issues TRO Against Kaporos Practices"

2016-10-10 Thread Kwall, Roberta
As someone whose recent work has centered largely on the inability to neatly separate Jewish law from culture, I would conclude that for those who observe this practice, it should be viewed as a religious practice. Not all customs have the force of Jewish law--this is a very complex area. But

Noteworthy, puzzling scholars' brief in Arlene Flowers

2016-10-10 Thread Marty Lederman
Some of you may be familiar with the *Washington v. Arlene's Flowers* case, which will be argued in the Washington Supreme Court next month. Barronelle Stutzman and her husband are the owners of Arlene’s Flowers, Inc., a closely held for-profit corporation. Over the course of nine years, Stutzman

RE: "California Court Issues TRO Against Kaporos Practices"

2016-10-10 Thread Michael Masinter
Thanks; I recognize the underlying question left open from Smith of whether the existence of any exemptions (scientific research) but no religious exemption triggers strict scrutiny. Mike From: religionlaw-boun...@lists.ucla.edu [mailto:religionlaw-boun...@lists.ucla.edu] On Behalf Of Volokh,

RE: Noteworthy, puzzling scholars' brief in Arlene Flowers

2016-10-10 Thread Laycock, H Douglas (hdl5c)
I did not sign the scholars’ brief, and it is drawing about the reaction I expected. But nothing in the brief implies anything like the Ollie’s BBQ analogy. The claim in the brief is that discrimination confined to one very narrow context, an especially sensitive context with its own legal

FW: Noteworthy, puzzling scholars' brief in Arlene Flowers

2016-10-10 Thread Laycock, H Douglas (hdl5c)
I did not sign the scholars’ brief, and it is drawing about the reaction I expected. But nothing in the brief implies anything like the Ollie’s BBQ analogy. The claim in the brief is that discrimination confined to one very narrow context, an especially sensitive context with its own legal

Re: Noteworthy, puzzling scholars' brief in Arlene Flowers

2016-10-10 Thread Marty Lederman
I assume Doug was referring to Arlene's Flowers' free exercise claim under Art. I, section 11 of the Washington Constitution, which the state court has construed in Sherbert/RFRA-like fashion. Although I don't think the religious exercise claim should prevail in this commercial context, I do