Re: [Repeater-Builder] Motorola Purc 5000 As A Repeater?

2007-10-25 Thread Mike Morris WA6ILQ
At 07:08 PM 10/24/07, you wrote: Anyone with any experience turning a VHF PURC 5000 into a repeater? Randy The PURC5000 is a transmit-only version of an MSF5000 intended for paging service. There are no receiver components in the RF drawer, or if they are there, they are crossband. The two

Re: [Repeater-Builder] Zetron 38 Panel

2007-10-25 Thread Mike Morris WA6ILQ
The Z38A instruction manual can be down loaded from http://www.repeater-builder.com/zetron/zetron-index.html The 38 is a different puppy from the 38A, however. More that one person has voiced the comment that Zetron is one of those companies that has absolutely no regard for their customers. It

Re: [Repeater-Builder] Motorola Purc 5000 As A Repeater?

2007-10-25 Thread Mike Morris WA6ILQ
What keypad??? The PURC 5000 does not have a keypad. The Nucleus does, however. It is the Quantar-based paging transmitter that came after the PURC5000. The real PURC 5000 came in two flavors. Is there a three digit display on the top right of the panel? If so, then it takes RSS. If there is

Re: [Repeater-Builder] Motorola MSR2000 + NHRC-5

2007-10-25 Thread Mike Morris WA6ILQ
The last card-cage based repeater I did (a Micor, which uses a card cage like a MSR) I did a bit differently. The squelch gate card mod (the one with the DB connector and a 3-pole switch) basically turns it into a two-mode card - mode one is a paddle board that connects a outside controller, mode

Re: [Repeater-Builder] Re: duplexer isolation and reciev

2007-10-25 Thread Steve S. Bosshard (NU5D)
Even magnetic amplifiers and tunnel diodes.. [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: At 10/24/2007 19:26, you wrote: I would consider anything that uses a semi-condutor material to be active, Silicon and Germanium transistors included. According to Wikipedia, a passive device is a device

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2007-10-25 Thread Ron Wright
bob, I guess you cannot grasp the difference between operation of a diode and capacitor. A cap has it properties no matter what. A diode performs as a diode only when excited...the applied signal changes the diode...it does not change the capacitor. The internal structure in a diode changes

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2007-10-25 Thread Ron Wright
According to Wikipedia a transistor is not active. Here they state active devices as suppling power and passive as not. In control systems and circuit network theory, a passive component or circuit is one that consumes energy, but does not produce energy. Under this methodology, voltage and

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2007-10-25 Thread Larry Wagoner
At 05:36 AM 10/25/2007, you wrote: According to Wikipedia a transistor is not active. Here they state active devices as suppling power and passive as not. For God's sake, guys,I don't think I have seen a more childish exchange on here ... nyah, nyah, nyah ... yes it is, no it isn't, yes it

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2007-10-25 Thread Ron Wright
Jeff, Beta is most definitely a factor in the current gain of an emitter follower. This is most important with a linear regulator where the load is driven by the emitter. The beta determines the current gain of the pass transistor and how much current must be driving the base. If a

Re: [Repeater-Builder] Re: duplexer isolation and receiver noise bud

2007-10-25 Thread Steve S. Bosshard (NU5D)
Can't an isolator do both, provide a constant 50 Ohm load to the transmitter, and offer 30 (single junction) to 60 (dual junction) of isolation from signals travelling from the antenna to the transmitter for mixing. If isolators were just to provide a constant load, why are there dual

Re: [Repeater-Builder] Zetron 38 Panel

2007-10-25 Thread Jim
radiotech808 wrote: Hi All, I am trying to get the Zetron 38 running on our local 2 meter repeater (only as a temp measure) due to logic problems What I want Morse ident out every 15mins as to comply with the regs, the ident does go out but no radio tx any thoughts You do know

Re: [Repeater-Builder] Re: duplexer isolation and receiver noise bud

2007-10-25 Thread DCFluX
Single isolators are meant for transmitter protection from reflected power and antenna failure and low end transmitter combiners. Dual stage is more tailored for intermod reduction and wide bandwidth low distortion (TV) applications. Triple stage is more tailored for a close spaced high power

Re: [Repeater-Builder] DB4062 woes...

2007-10-25 Thread Scott Zimmerman
Paul, I'm assuming silver plating at the very bottom is not too critical anyway. Did you use silver solder, or regular solder? I don't think that heat alone would hurt the silver plating. It may turn it colored, but should not hurt its conductive properties. (Similar to connectors that have

Re: [Repeater-Builder] MASTRII Group

2007-10-25 Thread Scott Zimmerman
Vern, You couldn't approve messages only once a month. They expire after 14days. The problem with Yahoo groups is that they don't send e-mails saying that there are messages that are pending; so unless you go to the group's website and look, you have no idea that there are held messages. The

[Repeater-Builder] Re: Motorola MSR2000 + NHRC-5

2007-10-25 Thread skipp025
There are a number of methods... arguments to be made for doing one modification versus another. You might read the below web page before you begin along with a bit of research into some of my past msr-2000 related posts on this group. http://home.comcast.net/~msr2000/ ... and of course

[Repeater-Builder] Re: Motorola Purc 5000 As A Repeater?

2007-10-25 Thread kk2ed
The PURC5000 came in two versions - Early CxxJLB stations, similar to early MSFs, where the 2732 eprom is programmed via the R1801 for frequency, etc. Later CxxJXB stations, while similar to later MSFs, DID NOT need RSS. There is a 10 or 12 button keypad, and a red LED scrolling display

[Repeater-Builder] Re: Motorola Purc 5000 As A Repeater?

2007-10-25 Thread n6icw
Forgot to add this link with a picture. The controller is near the bottom of the rack. http://picasaweb.google.com/147195/MtVacaVHF/photo#4981359282084773906 Chris N6ICW --- In Repeater-Builder@yahoogroups.com, Mike Morris WA6ILQ [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: What keypad??? The PURC 5000 does

[Repeater-Builder] Re: Motorola Purc 5000 As A Repeater?

2007-10-25 Thread n6icw
There is a third controller. Advance Controller used in the simulcast models. Completely programmable from the key pad. Has audio delay built in for the simulcast delays. Watt meter and the software can set deviation, audio eq. frequency's. I am simulcasting a 350 watt and 100 watt on 2 meters.

[Repeater-Builder] FCC's Riley Hollingsworth to Retire in January 2008

2007-10-25 Thread Mark Thompson
FCC's Riley Hollingsworth to Retire in January 2008 Riley Hollingsworth, Special Counsel in the FCC's Enforcement Bureau, announced his retirement this week, effective Friday, January 3, 2008. While his successor has not been named, Hollingsworth was quick to point out that the FCC's Amateur

Re: [Repeater-Builder] MASTRII Group

2007-10-25 Thread mung
Well it just seems like once a month I get about 20 messages in a row from that list. I would be happy to help if that would make it so that messages would get through quicker. I don't have the time to be a full admin on the list though. I run serveral other lists on my own list server and

[Repeater-Builder] Re: duplexer isolation and reciever noise budget

2007-10-25 Thread Harold Farrenkopf
Hello Jeff, Never did the tests personally but I know from others work where I used to work that putting 2 RF signals through an isolator of significant power will produce measurable intermods and with the powers of a typical transmitter, definitely a problem. There were problems with just the

[Repeater-Builder] MSR-2000 split question

2007-10-25 Thread George Henry
Can anybody tell me which UHF split a C74GSB-3105BT MSR-2000 is on? Thanks. George, KA3HSW / WQGJ413

Re: [Repeater-Builder] MSR-2000 split question

2007-10-25 Thread MCH
The model number does not indicate splits. Joe M. George Henry wrote: Can anybody tell me which UHF split a C74GSB-3105BT MSR-2000 is on? Thanks. George, KA3HSW / WQGJ413 Yahoo! Groups Links

Re: [Repeater-Builder] MSR-2000 split question

2007-10-25 Thread Jay Urish
You need to pull the TX board and RX board and look at the model #'s MCH wrote: The model number does not indicate splits. Joe M. George Henry wrote: Can anybody tell me which UHF split a C74GSB-3105BT MSR-2000 is on? Thanks. George, KA3HSW / WQGJ413 Yahoo!

[Repeater-Builder] stolen repeaters

2007-10-25 Thread Phil
Be on the lookout for three stolen Motorola MTR2000 UHF repeater stations. Thieves removed the units from a locked building on Tassajera Peak on Sunday, October 14th, between 1530 and 1600 hours local time. They are all model T7566 stations, rated at 100 watts for the 430-470 MHz band.

Re: [Repeater-Builder] MASTRII Group

2007-10-25 Thread Nate Duehr
Scott Zimmerman wrote: Vern, You couldn't approve messages only once a month. They expire after 14days. The problem with Yahoo groups is that they don't send e-mails saying that there are messages that are pending; so unless you go to the group's website and look, you have no idea that

[Repeater-Builder] Re: MSR-2000 split question

2007-10-25 Thread skipp025
Re: MSR-2000 split question As a general/generic rule... most repeaters in the 450-470 band are 5MHz offset as are a lot/most of the 440-450 ham repeaters. Others outside the above ranges are often a 3MHz offset. There is no standard repeater offset in the VHF band. cheers, s. Jay

Re: [Repeater-Builder] MSR-2000 split question

2007-10-25 Thread George Henry
Nuts... it's on E-Bay, and close enough for me to pick up if I win, so I guess I'll have to ask the seller for more info. I think the ad said it was currently on 174, so I wanted to find out if it'll go down to GMRS without mods. 440 is probably out of the question, though, right?

Re: [Repeater-Builder] MASTRII Group

2007-10-25 Thread MCH
Nate is right. I own/moderate over 100 lists, and I get pending email notifications from every one of them. It's a setting in the Moderator area. If you click on a moderator's settings (EDIT MEMBERSHIP), the options are: 0 Notify this moderator when there are pending messages, photos or

Re: [Repeater-Builder] MSR-2000 split question

2007-10-25 Thread MCH
It's definitely a UHF model, so it should not be on 174. Maybe 474. Joe M. George Henry wrote: Nuts... it's on E-Bay, and close enough for me to pick up if I win, so I guess I'll have to ask the seller for more info. I think the ad said it was currently on 174, so I wanted to find out

Re: [Repeater-Builder] MSR-2000 split question

2007-10-25 Thread Jim
George Henry wrote: Nuts... it's on E-Bay, and close enough for me to pick up if I win, so I guess I'll have to ask the seller for more info. I think the ad said it was currently on 174, so I wanted to find out if it'll go down to GMRS without mods. 440 is probably out of the question,

Re: [Repeater-Builder] Motorola Purc 5000 As A Repeater?

2007-10-25 Thread w8ak
I have used a 225 watt Purc as a transmitter for many years. The 2732 can be read and modified using a R1800 programmer with MSF software and programmer. Just read and edit the freq, don't start from scratch. The audio and ptt are injected at the local mic RJ connector. I can do the 2732 for

[Repeater-Builder] Re: MSR-2000 split question

2007-10-25 Thread skipp025
It's actually a mid uhf msr repeater... currently on 474 MHz so it might go down to the gmrs band with a proper alignment. s. Jim [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: George Henry wrote: Nuts... it's on E-Bay, and close enough for me to pick up if I win, so I guess I'll have to ask the seller for

Re: [Repeater-Builder] FCC's Riley Hollingsworth to Retire in January 2008

2007-10-25 Thread Don Kupferschmidt
So, Out of the 3000 + members on Repeater-builder alone, would someone like to nominate his successor? Don, KD9PT - Original Message - From: Mark Thompson To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] ; [EMAIL PROTECTED] Cc: Repeater-Builder@yahoogroups.com ; [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Thursday,

[Repeater-Builder] Motorola 900 paging PA

2007-10-25 Thread n9wys
I have one of these wonderful paging PA's (Model # SGTF1021B) that I am trying to convert for use on my 900 repeater, in lieu of the Glenayre - I've kinda given up on that PA for now. I'm pretty certain that I understand the instructions on how to get it operating in the ham portion of the band,

Re: [Repeater-Builder] Zetron 38 Panel

2007-10-25 Thread ALASTAIR GRAHAM
Hi Jim All, Firstly the tone panel is a Zetron 38 not an A or max ! Jim you are right about the DTMF ident really only for trouble shooting over air etc And sorry I forgot to say I am over here in the UK hence the 15min ident Speaking to tech at Zetron today he agrees

[Repeater-Builder] Rbi1 for sale

2007-10-25 Thread Jed Barton
Hey guys, I have an rbi1 for sale. Any takers? I'm open for suggestions. I also have a cable for a kenwood TM331. Thanks, Jed

RE: [Repeater-Builder] Re: duplexer isolation and receiver noise bud

2007-10-25 Thread Gary Schafer
While it is basically true of how isolators are used, a low end combiner is not defined by how many isolator stages it employs. Most systems need around 65 db or so of isolation between transmitters. A common combination is a two stage isolator that gives around 60 db of isolation and a pass

RE: [Repeater-Builder] MSR-2000 split question

2007-10-25 Thread Eric Lemmon
George, This information is straight out of the MSR-2000 manual, 6881061E55. Your MSR-2000 is a fully-optionable repeater station that has 80 to 100 watts of output power somewhere in the range of 450-512 MHz. Whether it is 450-494 MHz or 494-512 MHz must be determined by inspection of three PA

Re: [Repeater-Builder] MSR-2000 split question

2007-10-25 Thread George Henry
Oops fat-fingered that one! It's 474 RX, 471 TX - Original Message - From: MCH [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: Repeater-Builder@yahoogroups.com Sent: Thursday, October 25, 2007 3:07 PM Subject: Re: [Repeater-Builder] MSR-2000 split question It's definitely a UHF model, so it should not

[Repeater-Builder] Motorla MSR-2000 Jumpers?

2007-10-25 Thread atms169
I'm adding a controller to my Squelch Gate for my MSR-2000 repeater. I am almost there but, I can not find where these Jumpers are that need to be adjusted so my controller will work. Does anyone know where I can find them? Are they the jumpers on the Squelch Gate that need to be soldered? I'm