Re: [Repeater-Builder] Call letter plates

2007-10-18 Thread Mike Morris WA6ILQ
Yep. Cops have been known to mis-understand ham plates... WB6GSO was stopped frequently when he had a 1981 Suburban with the 1950s-1960s black characters on yellow background series (the so-called bumblebee plates). They were issued previous to the 1960s-1970s yellow-on-black series. He was

Re: [Repeater-Builder] MASTR II

2007-10-18 Thread Nate Duehr
On Oct 17, 2007, at 7:26 PM, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: The P1dB point on the UHF UHS preamp I measured was only +1.5 dBm. However, it's much narrower than any standalone preamp you can buy off the shelf, so it has some inherent out-of-band rejection. I measured a noise figure of 4.6

Re: [Repeater-Builder] Failed MastrII

2007-10-18 Thread Nate Duehr
On Oct 17, 2007, at 8:57 PM, Gary Hoff wrote: Buddy of mine has lost the amplifier section of his MASTR II repeater. Need a base station transmitter or in worse case a Mobile transmitter complete. This is a high band unit presently on 147.2. Anybody have one laying around that is surplus

Re: Re: [Repeater-Builder] Reducing power out when on battery backup.

2007-10-18 Thread Ron Wright
GE made a number of PAs for the MII all to be driven by the exciter. I think the lowest for normal mobiles was 35 watts. Also the Exec II PAs will work. A 35 W set at 35 W draws about 7 Amps and at 20 will drop to 4 Amp. 73, ron, n9ee/r From: Nate Duehr [EMAIL PROTECTED] Date: 2007/10/17

Re: [Repeater-Builder] Call letter plates

2007-10-18 Thread Nate Duehr
Sorry this is heading WAY off-topic, but I had to share the insane list of license plate types we have here in Colorado now... and a comment about Mike's 1991 posting about plate lookups containing whitespace... On Oct 18, 2007, at 12:12 AM, Mike Morris WA6ILQ wrote: Yep. Cops have been

Re: Re: [Repeater-Builder] Call letter plates

2007-10-18 Thread Ron Wright
Nate, Here in Florida we have over 60 vanity plates. To get a vanity plate issued it cost $60,000 up front and then cost the user $20-30 extra. We got all kinds of them. Here in Tampa area the most popular is the football team, the Bucs plate. In the 4 counties (there are more) over

Re: [Repeater-Builder] MASTR II

2007-10-18 Thread mung
I guess it would be helpful if I gave more detail on the repeater. It's VHF and its built on a mobile MASTR II. Here is a picture of it. http://www.highwayusa.com/mastrII/mastrII.jpg Is the block that the recv port is pluged into a preamp or is that the normal place for it to plug in?

RE: [Repeater-Builder] Need recommendation for small repeater controller

2007-10-18 Thread Paul Finch
Brian at ICS has one that is small enough I think. Paul _ From: Repeater-Builder@yahoogroups.com [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Steve Smith Sent: Wednesday, October 17, 2007 11:16 AM To: Repeater-Builder@yahoogroups.com Subject: Re: [Repeater-Builder] Need

RE: [Repeater-Builder] MASTR II

2007-10-18 Thread de W5DK
No, that black coax is plugged into the normal connection when no preamp is installed, the preamp would be in the hole/area to the left of that RCA termination you have now, you do NOT have a preamp in that mobile. 73 Don W5DK From: Repeater-Builder@yahoogroups.com [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]

Re: [Repeater-Builder] Reducing power out when on battery backup.

2007-10-18 Thread ldgelectronics
We have a couple of the mobile sticking out the back PA's that we will look at. We'll find the best exciter/PA combination that gives the best efficency. So the original question was answered, the power control pot can be converted to a dual level pot, but at the expense of efficency. It's

Re: [Repeater-Builder] MASTR II

2007-10-18 Thread mung
That is what I thought but I just wanted to confirm it. Thanks, Vern On Thu, 18 Oct 2007 09:32:46 -0600 de W5DK [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: No, that black coax is plugged into the normal connection when no preamp is installed, the preamp would be in the hole/area to the left of that RCA

Re: [Repeater-Builder] Failed MastrII

2007-10-18 Thread Gary Hoff
He'll make a trip to the hill to get the number if possible or at least find out how many final transistors. Gary - Original Message - From: Nate Duehr To: Repeater-Builder@yahoogroups.com Sent: Thursday, October 18, 2007 3:11 AM Subject: Re: [Repeater-Builder] Failed MastrII

Re: [Repeater-Builder] Need recommendation for small repeater controller

2007-10-18 Thread no6b
At 10/17/2007 09:16, you wrote: Cut down your MP100 ;-) -Steve Actually, for Dayton this year I took my MP100 along with the radio so I could interface the Kenwood G707 mobile radio as a link to the Miamisburg IRLP repeater. The locals were impressed enough that by next year's Dayton they

RE: [Repeater-Builder] Need recommendation for small repeater controller

2007-10-18 Thread no6b
At 10/18/2007 07:19, you wrote: -- From: Repeater-Builder@yahoogroups.com [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Steve Smith Sent: Wednesday, October 17, 2007 11:16 AM To: Repeater-Builder@yahoogroups.com Subject: Re: [Repeater-Builder] Need recommendation for small repeater controller

[Repeater-Builder] Re: OT: Air Band Receiver

2007-10-18 Thread dadavies3
Hi Eric, It may be that the 'C' indicates that it is made in Canada. Just a thought. Does your list include stuff made by Canadian GE? Doug VE7DRF --- In Repeater-Builder@yahoogroups.com, Eric Lemmon [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Doug, I have a complete GE microfiche file, but there is no

[Repeater-Builder] Re: Need recommendation for small repeater controller

2007-10-18 Thread skipp025
Re: Need recommendation for small repeater controller How much work do you want the controller to take on? Most of the smaller repeater controllers are pretty basic, many don't include an input valid detect line for switched and controlled CTCSS Operation. A simple D-9 connector (aka db-9 to

Re: [Repeater-Builder] tower work

2007-10-18 Thread Ted Bleiman K9MDM - MDM Radio
john here are a few contact in that area. some have been customers in the past . some may have quit the business./ sdince we closed up last nov we've been out of contact with many old accounts. but its a place to start. If they can't handle the job maybe they know someone who will or can... name

[Repeater-Builder] Repeater on Portable Radios

2007-10-18 Thread chris Inos
For our American Red Cross use...local chapter We are in a project to make a simple repeater from two IC H-16 VHF (donation) to assist us in our immediate response in a small community (outside of continental U.S.). 1. We are looking for a simple controller, no bells and whistles,, just

[Repeater-Builder] I need Rexolite

2007-10-18 Thread K4SLB Steve Butler
I am working on a obsolete Sinclair F-201G-WP Hybrid Ring Duplexer that has 2 of the 4 Rexolite rods broken. They are 6 long by .500 in diamter. I have photos at: http://k4slb.com/pages/Tower/10-15-2007/index.htm also one of the sleves is kinked. Any Help? Please? 73 de K4SLB Steve

Re: [Repeater-Builder] Re: Need recommendation for small repeater controller

2007-10-18 Thread no6b
At 10/18/2007 10:52, you wrote: Re: Need recommendation for small repeater controller How much work do you want the controller to take on? Most of the For this application, just a single repeater - no remote bases. I do need DTMF control of the repeater (on/off) as well as a TOT that can also

Re: [Repeater-Builder] Repeater on Portable Radios

2007-10-18 Thread Ron Wright
Chris, One note...never, never, never use 9913 for a repeater, even if no duplexer and using separate antennas which sounds as if you are going to do. 9913 and any coax that had different metals for the outer shield (9913 has foil and braid). It can generate noise from the transmitter that

[Repeater-Builder] Check out http://www3.hsmv.state.fl.us/Intranet/dmv/Forms/BTR/83043.pdf

2007-10-18 Thread cruising7388
Here in Florida we have over 60 vanity plates. To get a vanity plate issued it cost $60,000 up front and then cost the user $20-30 extra. Isn't a vanity plate the same thing as a personal plate? Can you show me on the application where there is any reference to a $60,000 up front fee? I

Re: [Repeater-Builder] Re: Need recommendation for small repeater controller

2007-10-18 Thread DCFluX
Depends on the maker, but most have a bad habit of using polarized tants in the audio path. The rest used 0.1uF or less non-polar, but then people complained of tinny sounding audio as no one bothered to do a R/C filter analysis. But you have a chicken and egg situation, is it the controllers

Re: [Repeater-Builder] Repeater on Portable Radios

2007-10-18 Thread chris Inos
Ron: thanks for the heads-up...I am just listing what we have in the form of donationwe can deviate from using what we now have and recourse to whatever is recommended and within my personal funds (shallow pocket). I have surfed the net on repeater maker but haven't identified a unit

RE: Re: [Repeater-Builder] Call letter plates

2007-10-18 Thread Mike Besemer (WM4B)
Amateur radio tags don’t cost any extra in GA, but we pay $20 for the plate each year, plus an ad valoreum tax on the value of the vehicle. It costs me about $600/year to tag 3 vehicles, and mine is just a junker. Oh… and we DO have a state income tax and a sales tax too. Mike WM4B

Re: [Repeater-Builder] Repeater on Portable Radios

2007-10-18 Thread mung
I thought LMR400 was supposed to be good on 2m. That is what I am using. Maybe that is part of the problem I am having. Is LMR600 the same way? I am running that from the antenna to the duplexer only. Everything else is double shielded. Vern On Thu, 18 Oct 2007 15:33:57 -0500 (CDT)

Re: [Repeater-Builder] Re: Need recommendation for small repeater controller

2007-10-18 Thread scomind
Hi Bob, The new 7330 uses 10 uF ceramic SMT caps to couple each of the three transmitter audio outputs and each of the three CTCSS encoders. Thanks for the info, Bob. How big are those SMT caps? I'm wondering if NHRC can retrofit their 1 µF polarized with those, or perhaps even just 1

Re: [Repeater-Builder] Re: Need recommendation for small repeater controller

2007-10-18 Thread DCFluX
1206 is the smallest 10uF I've seen, but expensive. 1210 is more common. On 10/18/07, [EMAIL PROTECTED] [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: At 10/18/2007 19:36, you wrote: Hi Bob, I know high-capacitance non-polarized caps are hard to come by in SMC form, but controller manufacturers have got to

Re: [Repeater-Builder] Re: Need recommendation for small repeater controller

2007-10-18 Thread no6b
At 10/18/2007 19:36, you wrote: Hi Bob, I know high-capacitance non-polarized caps are hard to come by in SMC form, but controller manufacturers have got to face reality in that many radios bias the mic input. Done. The new 7330 uses 10 uF ceramic SMT caps to couple each of the three

Re: [Repeater-Builder] Re: Need recommendation for small repeater controller

2007-10-18 Thread scomind
Hi Bob, I know high-capacitance non-polarized caps are hard to come by in SMC form, but controller manufacturers have got to face reality in that many radios bias the mic input. Done. The new 7330 uses 10 uF ceramic SMT caps to couple each of the three transmitter audio outputs and

Re: [Repeater-Builder] Re: Need recommendation for small repeater controller

2007-10-18 Thread no6b
At 10/18/2007 17:36, you wrote: Hi The ICS Basic controller can take a bias voltage of 30v or so without any noticeable effect on the audio and no damage to the controller. I assume the 10 µF cap on the TX audio output is non-polarized. A good choice, which I doubt could be made if you're

Re: [Repeater-Builder] Re: Need recommendation for small repeater controller

2007-10-18 Thread Ron Wright
Usually with mobiles that provide a biasing resistor for the mike one removes it for repeater use. These resistors are in the 600 Ohm range loading down the controller tx audio input and affecting the low freq response due to low value output coupling caps in the range of 1 uf on the

Re: [Repeater-Builder] Re: Need recommendation for small repeater controller

2007-10-18 Thread Brian
Hi The ICS Basic controller can take a bias voltage of 30v or so without any noticeable effect on the audio and no damage to the controller. www.ics-ctrl.com 73 Brian ka9pmm [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: At 10/18/2007 14:11, you wrote: But you have a chicken and egg situation, is it the

Re: [Repeater-Builder] Repeater on Portable Radios

2007-10-18 Thread Maire-Radios
buy yourself a real repeater, look at ebay they are there. the H-16 are not made for repeater service. - Original Message - From: chris Inos To: Repeater-Builder@yahoogroups.com Sent: Thursday, October 18, 2007 3:03 PM Subject: [Repeater-Builder] Repeater on Portable

Re: [Repeater-Builder] Re: Need recommendation for small repeater controller

2007-10-18 Thread no6b
At 10/18/2007 14:11, you wrote: But you have a chicken and egg situation, is it the controllers fault or the radios? Not all radios have bias and not all controllers charge caps backwards. You can solve the problem by removing the mic bias resistor from the radio, I'd like to do that, but I

RE: [Repeater-Builder] Re: OT: Air Band Receiver

2007-10-18 Thread Eric Vincent
Hi Doug, Can you contact me off list at (mour (at) sympatico (dot) ca) I want to talk with you about aircraft intercom project. Thanks. Eric VE2VXT _ De : Repeater-Builder@yahoogroups.com [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] De la part de Eric Lemmon Envoyé : 18 octobre, 2007 23:22

Re: [Repeater-Builder] Repeater on Portable Radios

2007-10-18 Thread Ralph Mowery
--- [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I thought LMR400 was supposed to be good on 2m. That is what I am using. Maybe that is part of the problem I am having. Is LMR600 the same way? I am running that from the antenna to the duplexer only. Everything else is double shielded. Vern

Re: [Repeater-Builder] Repeater on Portable Radios

2007-10-18 Thread Bob M.
There are several simple devices that you can use. It depends on how much you want the controller to do. Of course, the more it does, the more it costs. Cross-connect the COR output of one radio to the PTT input of the other radio. Then connect the audio output of one radio to the audio input of

RE: [Repeater-Builder] Re: OT: Air Band Receiver

2007-10-18 Thread Eric Lemmon
Doug, I believe it does, but- even so- there is no listing for a 4ER-70-A3 or anything close to it. 73, Eric Lemmon WB6FLY -Original Message- From: Repeater-Builder@yahoogroups.com [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of dadavies3 Sent: Thursday, October 18, 2007 10:04 AM To:

Re: [Repeater-Builder] Repeater on Portable Radios

2007-10-18 Thread Chuck Kelsey
About twice a month this topic comes up. The answer is always the same Don't use coax with foil/braid shield in duplex service Don't use coax with foil/braid shield in duplex service Don't use coax with foil/braid shield in duplex service There are isolated reports of people using it with

Re: Re: [Repeater-Builder] Repeater on Portable Radios

2007-10-18 Thread Ron Wright
Vern, The problems with the dis-similar shields is when one applies power to them so on receive probably ok. I still prefer to not have the stuff around. 73, ron, n9ee/r From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Date: 2007/10/18 Thu PM 05:10:24 CDT To: Repeater-Builder@yahoogroups.com Subject: Re:

Re: [Repeater-Builder] Re: Need recommendation for small repeater controller

2007-10-18 Thread no6b
At 10/18/2007 16:23, you wrote: At 10/18/2007 14:11, you wrote: But you have a chicken and egg situation, is it the controllers fault or the radios? Not all radios have bias and not all controllers charge caps backwards. You can solve the problem by removing the mic bias resistor from the

[Repeater-Builder] Re: Need recommendation for small repeater controller

2007-10-18 Thread k6jsi
Hi Bob, R101 provides bias on the MII. The mic bias is provided by the microphone plug in the MVP. Remove it, and you remove the mic bias. Shorty, K6JSI --- In Repeater-Builder@yahoogroups.com, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: At 10/18/2007 14:11, you wrote: But you have a chicken and egg