Re: [Repeater-Builder] Can a KLN 6210A vibrasender be substituted for a KLN 6209A vibrasponder?
Sorry, NO. A sender will not work as a sponder. - Original Message - From: Eric Lemmon To: Repeater-Builder@yahoogroups.com Sent: Monday, August 09, 2010 9:13 PM Subject: RE: [Repeater-Builder] Can a KLN 6210A vibrasender be substituted for a KLN 6209A vibrasponder? Brian, Yes, probably. The coils have different impedances, and the armatures have different masses, but they are close enough that in most cases they are interchangeable. That said, Motorola did make them different for a reason- most likely that one was more sensitive as a vibrasponder, and the other worked better as a vibrasender. I recommend that you use the specified part for optimum performance. 73, Eric Lemmon WB6FLY -Original Message- From: Repeater-Builder@yahoogroups.com [mailto:repeater-buil...@yahoogroups.com] On Behalf Of Brian J. Henry Sent: Monday, August 09, 2010 11:34 AM To: Repeater-Builder@yahoogroups.com Subject: [Repeater-Builder] Can a KLN 6210A vibrasender be substituted for a KLN 6209A vibrasponder? I have an MSR 2000 repeater that I want to change the PL frequency on. Does anyone know if a KLN 6210A vibrasender will work in place of a KLN 6209A vibrasponder on the MSR 2000 PL board? Curiously, Brian Henry, WB6QED
Re: [Repeater-Builder] Re: showing our age (old HT's)
1953? Lance N2HBA - Original Message - From: JOHN MACKEY To: Repeater-Builder@yahoogroups.com Sent: Wednesday, July 28, 2010 5:53 PM Subject: Re: [Repeater-Builder] Re: showing our age (old HT's) This is all before my time. When did Link stop making radios? -- Original Message -- Received: Wed, 28 Jul 2010 03:43:52 PM PDT From: wb6dgn wb6...@att.net To: Repeater-Builder@yahoogroups.com Subject: [Repeater-Builder] Re: showing our age (old HT's) I cut my teeth on Link radios. In fact, I had a hard time adjusting to Motorola. It always seemed that they took much more circuitry and, thus, many more parts, to do the same job (not any better) as Link. My first Links on the ham band were the old 1905/2240 two box pair on the 146.2/146.8 repeater in the SF Bay Area. From there I graduated to a 6000-30VR-C1, a very modern (for the time) one piece unit. Also had some of the old 2975 Links on UHF. Some interesting stories about that but for another time. As I got the story, Fred Link retired and sold the company. The successor produced radios for a very short time but they did not maintain the Link reputation in any way. Some of the ones I got looked like prototypes; not a finished product. A rather inglorious end to a formerly great company. Tom DGN --- In Repeater-Builder@yahoogroups.com, Sid purvis...@... wrote: RE: Link radios. My first ham station was a Link base unit on 40 something MHz given to me by the sheriff when they got new equipment. I reworked all the tuning coils and moved it to 52.525 MHz and used it for years. Those tubes looked nice at night with the lights off. Sid. WA4VBC --- In Repeater-Builder@yahoogroups.com, Captainlance Captainlance@ wrote: Wow.. memories... A Link 50UFS low band base station.. We have one here, too... Still works. Lance N2HBA - Original Message - From: La Rue Communications To: Repeater-Builder@yahoogroups.com Sent: Tuesday, July 27, 2010 4:20 PM Subject: Re: [Repeater-Builder] showing our age (old HT's) I think I automatically disqualify myself since I dont know too much about our units. But one of the cornerstone pieces of our shop is our Link Repeater. Im not trying to one up anyone - but rather share and get into the OLD stuff with the rest of ya. I also dont think I qualify because I grew up on CHiPs and Dukes of Hazard. :) So overlook that little fact and let me ask if anyone has dabbled with this machine? (See attached) John Hymes La Rue Communications 10 S. Aurora Street Stockton, CA 95202 http://tinyurl.com/2dtngmn - Original Message - From: John Gleichweit To: Repeater-Builder@yahoogroups.com Sent: Tuesday, July 27, 2010 12:04 PM Subject: Re: [Repeater-Builder] showing our age (old HT's) Whaddaya mean lunchboxes don't count? I have a pair of GE Portamobile II's in the shop just begging to be recrystalled and ready to rock. If course, I was considering building those into APRS trackers or packet boxes, where everything was built inside, and all you needed to do was plug in a laptop. I dug an actual GE HandiTalkie out of the bottom of a box that was full of surplus stuff from the county. In that same lot was a couple of MX300s. -- John Smokey Behr Gleichweit FF1/EMT, CCNA, MCSE IPN-CAL023 N6FOG UP Fresno Sub MP183.5 ECV1852 List Owner x10, Moderator x9 CalEMA 51-507 http://smokeybehr.blogspot.com http://www.myspace.com/smokeybehr - Original Message From: skipp025 skipp025@ To: Repeater-Builder@yahoogroups.com Sent: Sun, July 25, 2010 7:00:36 PM Subject: [Repeater-Builder] showing our age (old HT's) Allow me to show my age ... To me, the HT-220 is/was a Xtal Controlled Ht !! Allow me to show my age... The HT here is a VHF Engineering 2 Meter Portable assembled from a kit... and it still works. :-) s. ps: Surplus Motorola and GE Lunch Boxes don't count on the bragging scale. Yahoo! Groups Links
Re: [Repeater-Builder] showing our age (old HT's)
Wow.. memories... A Link 50UFS low band base station.. We have one here, too... Still works. Lance N2HBA - Original Message - From: La Rue Communications To: Repeater-Builder@yahoogroups.com Sent: Tuesday, July 27, 2010 4:20 PM Subject: Re: [Repeater-Builder] showing our age (old HT's) I think I automatically disqualify myself since I dont know too much about our units. But one of the cornerstone pieces of our shop is our Link Repeater. Im not trying to one up anyone - but rather share and get into the OLD stuff with the rest of ya. I also dont think I qualify because I grew up on CHiPs and Dukes of Hazard. :) So overlook that little fact and let me ask if anyone has dabbled with this machine? (See attached) John Hymes La Rue Communications 10 S. Aurora Street Stockton, CA 95202 http://tinyurl.com/2dtngmn - Original Message - From: John Gleichweit To: Repeater-Builder@yahoogroups.com Sent: Tuesday, July 27, 2010 12:04 PM Subject: Re: [Repeater-Builder] showing our age (old HT's) Whaddaya mean lunchboxes don't count? I have a pair of GE Portamobile II's in the shop just begging to be recrystalled and ready to rock. If course, I was considering building those into APRS trackers or packet boxes, where everything was built inside, and all you needed to do was plug in a laptop. I dug an actual GE HandiTalkie out of the bottom of a box that was full of surplus stuff from the county. In that same lot was a couple of MX300s. -- John Smokey Behr Gleichweit FF1/EMT, CCNA, MCSE IPN-CAL023 N6FOG UP Fresno Sub MP183.5 ECV1852 List Owner x10, Moderator x9 CalEMA 51-507 http://smokeybehr.blogspot.com http://www.myspace.com/smokeybehr - Original Message From: skipp025 skipp...@yahoo.com To: Repeater-Builder@yahoogroups.com Sent: Sun, July 25, 2010 7:00:36 PM Subject: [Repeater-Builder] showing our age (old HT's) Allow me to show my age ... To me, the HT-220 is/was a Xtal Controlled Ht !! Allow me to show my age... The HT here is a VHF Engineering 2 Meter Portable assembled from a kit... and it still works. :-) s. ps: Surplus Motorola and GE Lunch Boxes don't count on the bragging scale. Yahoo! Groups Links
Re: [Repeater-Builder] Re: Re-Tune a Vocom Amplifier
I've sent a few of these back to cresend, they tuned them for the ham band at minimal cost, and they have worked for years. lance n2HBA - Original Message - From: skipp025 To: Repeater-Builder@yahoogroups.com Sent: Thursday, July 22, 2010 8:21 PM Subject: [Repeater-Builder] Re: Re-Tune a Vocom Amplifier w5ppb w5...@... wrote: I have a Vocom amplifier model VVC100-10RF tuned at 152.375. I want to tune it for 145.450. Does anybody have tuning instructions ? Thanks ! Most of these type and model amplifiers are not easily re-tuned down to the Ham Bands. And as many Vocom Amplifiers as I have... I don't even know if they've ever provided any type of circuit diagram. I once asked Cresend for a diagram and they wouldn't provide it saying only they should re-tune their amplifier products. I don't buy or recommend Cresend any more... I would tell you to flip (sell) the Vocom and buy something already down into the Ham Bands where you can use it without grief. s.
Re: [Repeater-Builder] Re: More on GMRS - Fwd: FCC NPRM proposes complete part 95 rewrite
From real lfe experience, Does it really make a difference what rules are promulgated? GMRS in NY is nothing but a waste of spectrum. Foul mouthed, profane, and down right illegal use is the norm now. Add to that, groups that own their channel with the apparent blessing of the FCC who will not do anything to stop these practices. Make them all bubble pak radios, it will not matter one bit. Lance /N2HBA - Original Message - From: corwinmoore To: Repeater-Builder@yahoogroups.com Sent: Sunday, July 04, 2010 7:58 PM Subject: [Repeater-Builder] Re: More on GMRS - Fwd: FCC NPRM proposes complete part 95 rewrite --- In Repeater-Builder@yahoogroups.com, George Henry ka3...@... wrote: The comment period for the NPRM ends July 7. ... The 30-day period for public cmment on this important FCC proposal will begin on the date of publication in the Federal Register. That has not yet happened. (We expect it any day now.) For more definitive information (including the issues involved, and the confusion surrounding the licensing fees and term), go to: http://www.provide.net/~prsg - Corwin Moore (PRSG Administrative Coordinator)
Re: [Repeater-Builder] Henry Amplifier
Henry amps are simple to decode... C70D10 that you have: 70 watts out, 10 watts in? see? Lance N2HBA - Original Message - From: Ken Arck To: Repeater-Builder@yahoogroups.com Sent: Sunday, June 20, 2010 8:33 PM Subject: Re: [Repeater-Builder] Henry Amplifier At 06:23 PM 6/20/2010, Larry Watkinson wrote: Good Day All: I have two Henry Amps that I am trying to learn what drive they need to operate them on. I am new to repeater ownership and even newer to using a VHF / UHF amp respectively. Can someone assist me with figuring out how much transmitter power each will need to drive them. Can you also tell me if I can use less watts without having to do a bunch of modifications. I couldn't find anything about the first model number but the 2nd I found this: http://forums.qrz.com/archive/index.php/t-112412.html #SELLING MY HENRY UHF (2) TWO PIECE UNIT UHF AMP. #IT COMES WITH THE AMP HEAD, AND POWER SUPPLY, 19 RACK MOUNT, IT WAS USED AS A LINK AMP. #100% OPERATIONAL. 10 IN 80 OUT MODEL # C70D10R (D/C POWER SUPPLY INCLUDED) HTH Ken -- President and CTO - Arcom Communications Makers of repeater controllers and accessories. http://www.arcomcontrollers.com/ Authorized Dealers for Kenwood and Telewave and we offer complete repeater packages! AH6LE/R - IRLP Node 3000 http://www.irlp.net We don't just make 'em. We use 'em!
Re: [Repeater-Builder] Re: Micor PL encoder modification (TLN5731A)
On the encoder board, directly under the reed socket is a molex-type pin. grounding that kills the TX pl...( as with the factory paging option) Lance N2HBA - Original Message - From: ve3hxp To: Repeater-Builder@yahoogroups.com Sent: Tuesday, May 04, 2010 9:02 AM Subject: [Repeater-Builder] Re: Micor PL encoder modification (TLN5731A) Hi Paul, I modified a non-unified chassis 5 years or so ago. I wanted to disable the tone during cw id, so I used a small reed relay and broke the pl audio right at the input on the exciter board. I believe all I did was to put one end of the relay to 12 volts and the other end to a diode or gate. I don't quite remember how it went all together. I'll see if I can find the documentation and let you know. HTH Sean ve3hxp --- In Repeater-Builder@yahoogroups.com, N1BUG p...@... wrote: I'm guessing I am not the first to want to do this... I want to use a UHF Micor for a link. I want to be able to stop the PL encode immediately when a user unkeys, but I want the controller to be able to hold the transmitter up (without PL tone) for sending IDs. There appears to be no PL on/off gate on the TLN5731A encoder. The only tone gate is Q703 which only gates the out of phase tone used for reverse burst. Other than using a mechanical relay to interrupt the encoder tone output, any suggestions? Thanks, Paul N1BUG
Re: [Repeater-Builder] Looking to buy a 220MHz preamplifier... Prefer a used but functional unit.
I have Celwave units, brand new.. high quality, and cheap. $50.00 post paid. We use one on our repeater, resultant sensitivity is .15uv. Lance N2HBA - Original Message - From: surf_boy82 To: Repeater-Builder@yahoogroups.com Sent: Sunday, May 02, 2010 3:06 PM Subject: [Repeater-Builder] Looking to buy a 220MHz preamplifier... Prefer a used but functional unit. Does anyone have a preamplifier suitable for the 220MHz amateur band they care to part with? My 220 project is nearing completion, and this is one of the final parts I am in need of. Please drop me an e-mail. Thank you!
Re: [Repeater-Builder] Motorola R100 lowband on 6?
Moto. never made a low band version. We were moto. dealers for many years, only VHF and UHF, DPL or PL... - Original Message - From: Bill Smith To: Repeater-Builder@yahoogroups.com Sent: Wednesday, April 21, 2010 6:00 PM Subject: Re: [Repeater-Builder] Motorola R100 lowband on 6? I was a Radius dealer for quite a few years and only saw VHF and UHF R100 versions. Bill KB1MGH -- From: cruizzer77 atlant...@gmx.ch To: Repeater-Builder@yahoogroups.com Sent: Wed, April 21, 2010 5:50:45 PM Subject: [Repeater-Builder] Motorola R100 lowband on 6? Hi Does anyone know of a lowband R100 that has successfully been converted to 6m? 73 Martin Yahoo! Groups Links
Re: [Repeater-Builder] Motorola Radius P50
How about the TXRX duplexers? UHF I assume..? Lance N2HBA - Original Message - From: La Rue Communications To: Repeater-Builder@yahoogroups.com Sent: Friday, April 09, 2010 2:37 PM Subject: Re: [Repeater-Builder] Motorola Radius P50 This is a photo of some of the goodies in a SMALL portion of my shop. It should be large enough for most of you to really zoom in and Browse. If anything interests you, let me know! I'm eager to learn about all this equipment I have my hands on! A lot of you might remember toying around with these older radios especially the portables on the second shelf from the top. I've been told our shop is a real trip down memory lane! Cheers! John Hymes La Rue Communications 10 S. Aurora Street Stockton, CA 95202 - Original Message - From: MCH To: Repeater-Builder@yahoogroups.com Sent: Friday, April 09, 2010 12:11 PM Subject: Re: [Repeater-Builder] Motorola Radius P50 But, how many people know that? I think his point was that it doesn't seem to have been played with by someone who didn't know at least somewhat what they were doing. I've seen some of those come in. Joe M. Bill Smith wrote: Pry marks? Pop out the two clips in the battery compartment and pull up on the antenna. No prying needed! :-) -- Doesnt appear to be tampered with or pry marks indicating it was opened before. (Thank goodness).
Re: [Repeater-Builder] Nice article on the Molotora Gontor
Hmm..But can it core an apple??? Happy April 1st.. Lance/N2HBA - Original Message - From: Kevin Custer To: Repeater-Builder@yahoogroups.com ; repea...@yahoogroups.com ; repeat...@yahoogroups.com Sent: Thursday, April 01, 2010 6:48 AM Subject: [Repeater-Builder] Nice article on the Molotora Gontor Bob Meister has written a nice article on the Molotora Gontor for RB. http://www.repeater-builder.com/molotora/gontor/gontor.html Thanks go out to Bob for his efforts! Kevin Custer
Re: [Repeater-Builder] Micor Big PA,what drive?
UHF take 1.5 watts, VHF 450mw. - Original Message - From: gervais To: Repeater-Builder@yahoogroups.com Sent: Wednesday, March 24, 2010 9:59 PM Subject: [Repeater-Builder] Micor Big PA,what drive? hi all i have some PA from old Micor i dismantled some years ago and they were no1. they are 100 watts + and i need to know, what drive do they need to output 100 watts + ? i will drive them with an Ge Phoenix specially modify at 450 too 500 mw of drive,is it enough? Thanks for your help Gervais ve2ckn
Re: [Repeater-Builder] Motorola cabinet key wanted
Chicago Lock Co, key # 2553 - Original Message - From: Gary Schafer To: Repeater-Builder@yahoogroups.com Sent: Tuesday, February 23, 2010 10:54 PM Subject: RE: [Repeater-Builder] Motorola cabinet key wanted Hi Bill, The key is like a 2135 and a 2135 will fit in the lock (I have a 2135) but it will not open it. I actually have two of these station cabinets and my 2135 key will not open either cabinet. I kind of remember that some of the cabinets had a different key from the mobiles way back when. Any other guesses? Thanks Gary K4FMX -- From: Repeater-Builder@yahoogroups.com [mailto:repeater-buil...@yahoogroups.com] On Behalf Of Bill Hudson Sent: Tuesday, February 23, 2010 10:37 PM To: Repeater-Builder@yahoogroups.com Subject: RE: [Repeater-Builder] Motorola cabinet key wanted Just because I gamble a little - I'm going to bet that the older Motorola cabinet is a CH751. This is a one sided key unlike a 2135. The Micor cabinets became a 2553. Cabinet Keys more prominent in the high power stations. I'll go along with the BF10a for the Prog Line - that's for sure. Bill Hudson W6CBS -- From: Repeater-Builder@yahoogroups.com [mailto:repeater-buil...@yahoogroups.com] On Behalf Of Andrew Seybold Sent: Tuesday, February 23, 2010 6:18 PM To: Repeater-Builder@yahoogroups.com Subject: RE: [Repeater-Builder] Motorola cabinet key wanted The Motorola key should be a 2135 and the GE Key is probably a BF10A, they are hard to find but around-I can make you copies if you want to pay the key making price and postage. Andy W6AMS From: Repeater-Builder@yahoogroups.com [mailto:repeater-buil...@yahoogroups.com] On Behalf Of Gary Schafer Sent: Tuesday, February 23, 2010 6:16 PM To: Repeater-Builder@yahoogroups.com Subject: [Repeater-Builder] Motorola cabinet key wanted I am in need of a cabinet key for an old Motorola base station cabinet. It is an old low band 1/4 kw rig. Had 100TH tubes in final. This is the 6 foot tall cabinet. Anyone know the key number for these? Have a key? Also have an old GE progress line base cabinet that needs a key. This cabinet is about 3 feet tall and longer than wide. Thanks! Gary K4FMX
Re: [Repeater-Builder] WTB Motorola RN-3 crystal oven
RN3 is the crystal type, all the 4 pin ovens are the same. lance - Original Message - From: wa7spy To: Repeater-Builder@yahoogroups.com Sent: Monday, November 23, 2009 8:42 PM Subject: [Repeater-Builder] WTB Motorola RN-3 crystal oven Does anyone have any Motorola RN-3 crystal ovens they would like to sell? If so contact me off line. Thanks, Glenn Maclean WA7SPY
Re: [Repeater-Builder] WTB Motorola RN-3 crystal oven
RN3 is a T power...WNN3A was a Motrac. Sheesh, can't believe it remember it. - Original Message - From: Ken Arck To: Repeater-Builder@yahoogroups.com Sent: Monday, November 23, 2009 9:04 PM Subject: Re: [Repeater-Builder] WTB Motorola RN-3 crystal oven At 05:56 PM 11/23/2009, Captainlance wrote: RN3 is the crystal type, all the 4 pin ovens are the same. -Sounds like someone is resurrecting a Motrac? -- President and CTO - Arcom Communications Makers of repeater controllers and accessories. http://www.arcomcontrollers.com/ Authorized Dealers for Kenwood and Telewave and we offer complete repeater packages! AH6LE/R - IRLP Node 3000 http://www.irlp.net We don't just make 'em. We use 'em!
Re: [Repeater-Builder] FS: 1960's Vintage FM magazines
I'll take them. lance/N2HBA - Original Message - From: sjotrollet To: Repeater-Builder@yahoogroups.com Sent: Saturday, November 14, 2009 12:36 PM Subject: [Repeater-Builder] FS: 1960's Vintage FM magazines Following items from an estate. SK was deep into VHF/UHF and had 2 repeaters (2m 220). Retired PD radio tech. Total volume about a whiskey box and can be sent by media mail. Price $25 plus postage. No extra charge for packing. FM Magazine 81 copies of FM Magazine. From mid to late 1960's. Same format at the old 73 magazines. Some duplicates. Good condition FM Bulletin 52 copies of FM Bulletin magazine. From mid to late 1960's. Some duplicates. good condition. 73 Walt (N4GL) -- No virus found in this incoming message. Checked by AVG - www.avg.com Version: 8.5.425 / Virus Database: 270.14.65/2502 - Release Date: 11/14/09 07:43:00
Re: [Repeater-Builder] Unidentified EF Johnson Repeater
I'll be looking forward to the photo, hope I can assist you. lance - Original Message - From: Lee Pennington To: Repeater-Builder@yahoogroups.com Sent: Sunday, September 20, 2009 8:55 PM Subject: Re: [Repeater-Builder] Unidentified EF Johnson Repeater Lance; My machine is way older than the CR series. I saw a picture and PDF file for them and their vintage is newer.The power supply in my unit has a huge heat sink. Mine has N type Tx and Rx connectors coming out of the top of the cabinet, they weren't being used when I got it. The receiver had RG 142U hardwired to the input which ran directly to the cans. I drilled a hole and installed a chassis mount BNC connector and put in a BNC to type N jumper in. I also installed a jumper likewise from the Xmitter to the other N conector coming out the top. I'll see if my friend can take some photos to send to you so we can indentify it. Hopefully with that info I can obtain some sort of service manual or at least a schematic. I hope you can come up with what I need. I have several other machines on the air even as we speak, but this is my first Johnson, but it was free and I've got too much time on my hands, and a local club needs a repeater so I'll git 'r' done and turn it over to them. Thanks. de Lee K4LJP 73 On Fri, Sep 18, 2009 at 1:46 PM, Captainlance captainla...@optonline.net wrote: Check the back of each chassis, receiver and transmitter for the applicable model numbers, the radio you have is probably a CR1000, CR1010, or CR1100 made up of basically 2 mobile radios hung on pull out rails. The later ones have the chassis in pull out boxes, sort of like small rack units. I may have what you need if you can give me more info, or a photo of the insides... Lance N2HBA ( 20+ year EJF dealer). - Original Message - From: Robert McNeill To: Repeater-Builder@yahoogroups.com Sent: Friday, September 18, 2009 12:39 PM Subject: RE: [Repeater-Builder] Unidentified EF Johnson Repeater I believe that is a Civil Air Patrol split… -- From: Repeater-Builder@yahoogroups.com [mailto:repeater-buil...@yahoogroups.com] On Behalf Of Lee Pennington Sent: Friday, September 18, 2009 12:28 PM To: Repeater Builders Yahoo Group Subject: [Repeater-Builder] Unidentified EF Johnson Repeater Gentlmen; Need help in Identifying Johnson Vhf repeater... No model #, or serial # found on unit. I recently acquired a working EF Johnson VHF homebrew repeater, has an odd ball split. Tx freq. 148.150,..Rx freq. 143.900. Unit Xmits 120 watts w/good audio, receiver is fairly sharp. Encodes and decodes, 141.3PL tone. Homebrew controller with courtesy tone only, No cw ID. Unit appears to be a mobile radio in a Johnson cabinet w/ EFJohnson P.S. The cabinet is about 30 X 22 x 11 inches The mobile radio measures about 15 x 8 x 3 inches. The vintage is 1982... Need to ID Unit, ( PPL 6050 ???) help, and manual if possible. Are xtals still available? Thanks in advance for any assistance, de Lee K4LJP 73 -- Always drink upstream from the herd. -- No virus found in this incoming message. Checked by AVG - www.avg.com Version: 8.5.409 / Virus Database: 270.13.105/2380 - Release Date: 09/18/09 07:49:00 -- Always drink upstream from the herd. -- No virus found in this incoming message. Checked by AVG - www.avg.com Version: 8.5.409 / Virus Database: 270.13.110/2385 - Release Date: 09/20/09 17:51:00 attachment: 1E3.gif
Re: [Repeater-Builder] Unidentified EF Johnson Repeater
Check the back of each chassis, receiver and transmitter for the applicable model numbers, the radio you have is probably a CR1000, CR1010, or CR1100 made up of basically 2 mobile radios hung on pull out rails. The later ones have the chassis in pull out boxes, sort of like small rack units. I may have what you need if you can give me more info, or a photo of the insides... Lance N2HBA ( 20+ year EJF dealer). - Original Message - From: Robert McNeill To: Repeater-Builder@yahoogroups.com Sent: Friday, September 18, 2009 12:39 PM Subject: RE: [Repeater-Builder] Unidentified EF Johnson Repeater I believe that is a Civil Air Patrol split. -- From: Repeater-Builder@yahoogroups.com [mailto:repeater-buil...@yahoogroups.com] On Behalf Of Lee Pennington Sent: Friday, September 18, 2009 12:28 PM To: Repeater Builders Yahoo Group Subject: [Repeater-Builder] Unidentified EF Johnson Repeater Gentlmen; Need help in Identifying Johnson Vhf repeater... No model #, or serial # found on unit. I recently acquired a working EF Johnson VHF homebrew repeater, has an odd ball split. Tx freq. 148.150,..Rx freq. 143.900. Unit Xmits 120 watts w/good audio, receiver is fairly sharp. Encodes and decodes, 141.3PL tone. Homebrew controller with courtesy tone only, No cw ID. Unit appears to be a mobile radio in a Johnson cabinet w/ EFJohnson P.S. The cabinet is about 30 X 22 x 11 inches The mobile radio measures about 15 x 8 x 3 inches. The vintage is 1982... Need to ID Unit, ( PPL 6050 ???) help, and manual if possible. Are xtals still available? Thanks in advance for any assistance, de Lee K4LJP 73 -- Always drink upstream from the herd. -- No virus found in this incoming message. Checked by AVG - www.avg.com Version: 8.5.409 / Virus Database: 270.13.105/2380 - Release Date: 09/18/09 07:49:00
Re: [Repeater-Builder] Re: Anybody have some REALLY old Moto manuals?
The first Motorola series to use PL was the 10 inch G series, circa 1957 check T43G,(vhf) T41G(lb), etc. - Original Message - From: burkleoj To: Repeater-Builder@yahoogroups.com Sent: Friday, September 18, 2009 9:35 PM Subject: [Repeater-Builder] Re: Anybody have some REALLY old Moto manuals? Mike and Mike, I was the one who had one of the original invitations from Neil to come over and I asked Neil if Chris was welcome to join me. I just looked through the 30D manual set and there was no mention of PL Tones. But if anybody needs Dynamotor information, that I can help with. I am off to look through the 80D manuals now. Hopefully I find something there. I should of grabbed the manual on the first generation of UHF community repeaters that Motorola built. Joe --- In Repeater-Builder@yahoogroups.com, k7...@... wrote: Hi Joe, I was not sure who all went over and got all his stuff. I know Chris went over and got a bunch of hardware but If I know Chris he would never take Motorola manuals unless there was GE manuals. Mike From: Repeater-Builder@yahoogroups.com [mailto:repeater-buil...@yahoogroups.com] On Behalf Of burkleoj Sent: Thursday, September 17, 2009 11:09 PM To: Repeater-Builder@yahoogroups.com Subject: [Repeater-Builder] Re: Anybody have some REALLY old Moto manuals? Mike and Mike, I have a Motorola twin coffin 30D set of manuals out of Neil's collection. I will have a look tomorrow and see what I can find out for you as to what is listed for PL Tones. Joe - WA7JAW --- In Repeater-Builder@yahoogroups.com mailto:Repeater-Builder%40yahoogroups.com , k7pfj@ wrote: Hi Mike, I would say Neil Mckie WA6KLA should help you out with any OLD Motorola manual that they have ever printed since 1948. But he has been locked up for several years and all of his stuff he gave away. Mike Mullarkey K7PFJ From: Repeater-Builder@yahoogroups.com mailto:Repeater-Builder%40yahoogroups.com [mailto:Repeater-Builder@yahoogroups.com mailto:Repeater-Builder%40yahoogroups.com ] On Behalf Of Mike Morris WA6ILQ Sent: Thursday, September 17, 2009 7:09 PM To: Repeater-Builder@yahoogroups.com mailto:Repeater-Builder%40yahoogroups.com Subject: [Repeater-Builder] Anybody have some REALLY old Moto manuals? If so, I need a favor. The first implementation of PL used about 20 tones. The 32-tone standard list didn't come until later. Does anybody have a copy of that early tone list? It would have been somewhere in the 1950-1955 time frame. Thanks in advance. Mike WA6ILQ No virus found in this incoming message. Checked by AVG - www.avg.com Version: 8.5.409 / Virus Database: 270.13.104/2379 - Release Date: 09/17/09 15:55:00 No virus found in this incoming message. Checked by AVG - www.avg.com Version: 8.5.409 / Virus Database: 270.13.104/2379 - Release Date: 09/17/09 15:55:00 -- No virus found in this incoming message. Checked by AVG - www.avg.com Version: 8.5.409 / Virus Database: 270.13.105/2380 - Release Date: 09/18/09 07:49:00
Re: [Repeater-Builder] Micor Station question
no mods required, other than tuning. I have 2 on 441, both pout out rated power. check the regulated 12 volts to the tripler, the molex plugs on the interface board tend to be intermittent and /or resistive... the exciter board should be making about 350mw to 500 mw..if working correctly. lance n2HBA - Original Message - From: w7nikw7nik To: Repeater-Builder@yahoogroups.com Sent: Wednesday, September 16, 2009 10:30 PM Subject: [Repeater-Builder] Micor Station question I have a micor station 450-470 . I have .019 watts out the exciter after the 1st band pass tfd6373a. The tripler needs modified. The test meter 5 output is 34ma. Where can I find the mods for the tfe6153a tripler? The transmit freq is 441.850, I tried 445.550 element 1 watt with out tunning . I have narrowed it down to the tripler . Should I add some more wire to the turns on the 2nd band pass ?? Any help would be great . -- No virus found in this incoming message. Checked by AVG - www.avg.com Version: 8.5.409 / Virus Database: 270.13.101/2376 - Release Date: 09/16/09 11:21:00
Re: [Repeater-Builder] Re: Closed Repeaters
WE would be very interested in your supplying us with the list of the many paper repeaters on 2m. in your area that you claim to be on 2 meters. lance Alfieri President, MetroCor, Inc. - Original Message - From: rahwayflynn To: Repeater-Builder@yahoogroups.com Sent: Sunday, July 26, 2009 8:28 AM Subject: [Repeater-Builder] Re: Closed Repeaters --- In Repeater-Builder@yahoogroups.com, MCH m...@... wrote: The other sub-issue here is interference. If someone starts using a frequency someone else has been using, that's intentional interference. Does anyone have the right to intentionally interfere with someone else? Operating on an occupied frequency always has been against the rules. If anyone wants to put on their own repeater, they can. A pair (frequency) might not be available in the band they want, but I doubt every repeater pair is used anywhere - including the most densely populated areas of the country. I wanted a reliable P25 digital system to use. Every pair in my area is supposedly coordinated. http://www.metrocor.net/frequencylist.htm Many are paper repeaters that are supposedly local to me. I put up a mixed mode P25 machine on VHF. The NAC is set to the digital equivalent of CSQ. The system ID's itself per 97.119. The antenna has a deep null toward the active system on my pair (which is actually below the radio horizon). The system is engineered to provide local coverage only. No linking, no IRLP, just a basic P25 local repeater. The point being I would not care if other used the system. It's been up for a more then a year. Not a peep from anyone other then the handful of people I told about it. -- No virus found in this incoming message. Checked by AVG - www.avg.com Version: 8.5.392 / Virus Database: 270.13.30/2262 - Release Date: 07/25/09 18:01:00
Re: [Repeater-Builder] Re: Closed Repeaters
You are totally correct, it is not MetroCor's function to track down anyone, but if as you say you have such a list of paper repeaters, why not do everyone a service and send it to us? if you are really interested in the repeater community, you might consider volunteering some of your time to assist our organization in it's duties.We openly solicit any responsible amateur to assist us. Any open channels that we can confirm only allow someone else to gain their use and coordination. you would be doing a public service to the Amateur community here in NY/NJ lance N2HBA President, MetroCor, Inc. - Original Message - From: rahwayflynn To: Repeater-Builder@yahoogroups.com Sent: Sunday, July 26, 2009 4:24 PM Subject: [Repeater-Builder] Re: Closed Repeaters Mr. Alfieri, I understand you are a volunteer, and appreciate your efforts on behalf of the amateur community. I also understand that MetroCor does not have the resources to track down out-of-service machines, and depends on the honesty of the amateur to relinquish coordination when he takes a system permanently out of service. That being said, and with all due respect: Over a 60 day period, if I cannot bring up a coordinated repeater with a 125W Motorola Spectra sitting on top of a 50+ foot building into a unity gain antenna, using the PL codes published on the metrocor website, A) it does not exist, or B)is out of service. Martin --- In Repeater-Builder@yahoogroups.com, Captainlance captainla...@... wrote: WE would be very interested in your supplying us with the list of the many paper repeaters on 2m. in your area that you claim to be on 2 meters. lance Alfieri President, MetroCor, Inc. -- No virus found in this incoming message. Checked by AVG - www.avg.com Version: 8.5.392 / Virus Database: 270.13.31/2265 - Release Date: 07/26/09 17:59:00
Re: [Repeater-Builder] 450 Micor Repeator Amp
yes, no problems.Just keep the drive between 1.5 and 2 watts, with the power set adjusted for 80 watts or less at the antenna port... Lance N2HBA - Original Message - From: k0jxi To: Repeater-Builder@yahoogroups.com Sent: Saturday, May 09, 2009 12:52 PM Subject: [Repeater-Builder] 450 Micor Repeator Amp I am sure this has been asked before but I could not find any comprehensive links. Will the Motorola 450 to 470 75 watt Micor Repeater Amp TLE1713A work safely in the ham band on TX of 444.900. Most of my experience is with GE and not Motorola. Appreciate any advice. Dale, K0JXI -- No virus found in this incoming message. Checked by AVG - www.avg.com Version: 8.5.325 / Virus Database: 270.12.23/2106 - Release Date: 05/09/09 06:54:00
Re: [Repeater-Builder] Remote Receiver
Motorola Spectra-Tac receiver. usually avail. on Ebay for about 75.00 to 100.00, they are exactly what you want. if you can't find one locally, I can help you. lance N2HBA - Original Message - From: John Transue To: Repeater-Builder@yahoogroups.com Sent: Tuesday, April 14, 2009 8:41 PM Subject: [Repeater-Builder] Remote Receiver I'd like some advice. My radio club would like to have a remote receiver for our 2-meter repeater (ham band). I would appreciate any advice you can offer regarding equipment and anything I should be looking for or avoiding. There is no set budget yet, but I expect it will not support new Motorola equipment. We do not have a frequency coordinated for the link, but will do that when I know what band we want to use. Thanks in advance for your views. John Transue AF4PD -- No virus found in this incoming message. Checked by AVG - www.avg.com Version: 8.0.287 / Virus Database: 270.11.57/2059 - Release Date: 04/14/09 14:52:00
Re: [Repeater-Builder] supply
Intermittent duty Micor base station power supply.. rather rare, most stations used the HD one. lance - Original Message - From: Merrill To: Repeater-Builder@yahoogroups.com Sent: Thursday, March 26, 2009 6:05 PM Subject: [Repeater-Builder] supply can anyone identify this supply thanks in advance Merrill KG4IDD -- -- -- -- -- -- No virus found in this incoming message. Checked by AVG - www.avg.com Version: 8.0.238 / Virus Database: 270.11.29/2024 - Release Date: 03/26/09 07:12:00
Re: [Repeater-Builder] BRAMCO Reeds
BRAMCO reeds were made for a number of 2-way companies over the years, the color of the reed in meaningless. Each manufacturer selected what they wanted, light blue, dark blue, red, silver, bronze, etc. likewise, coil impedances were variable as well, from 500 to 5K ohms. if you have the stock number, usually beginning with an A0, I can probably tell you what you have. Decoders can be used as senders, however the drive is higher to get them to fire off reliably. note too that the Bramco reeds are position sensitive... especially below 100 hz...if you are going to use mechanical reeds for an application, try to get old Motorola gold reeds, TU217 sender and TU333 sponder, they were better in all aspects, especially sensitivity to close in the sponder reeds. Lance N2HBA - Original Message - From: Lee Pennington To: Repeater-Builder@yahoogroups.com Sent: Tuesday, March 10, 2009 2:39 PM Subject: Re: [Repeater-Builder] BRAMCO Reeds I've only seen BLUE ones, I'm presently holding a 127.3 in my hand. Lee On Tue, Mar 10, 2009 at 2:58 PM, Bill Hudson w6...@pacbell.net wrote: Since we’re all pushing our memories – I remember RED ones being sponders, and BLUE ones being senders From: Repeater-Builder@yahoogroups.com [mailto:repeater-buil...@yahoogroups.com] On Behalf Of Lee Pennington Sent: Tuesday, March 10, 2009 11:46 AM To: Repeater-Builder@yahoogroups.com Subject: Re: [Repeater-Builder] BRAMCO Reeds Mark, I may be mistaken, but I seem to remember Bramco's as all being senders. de, Lee K4LJP 73 On Tue, Mar 10, 2009 at 2:21 PM, James Delancy ctra...@gmail.com wrote: I seem to remember the bramco reeds as -sponder units. If you happen to have a -sender, it usually works either way if I remember right. James Mark wrote: I found a couple of BRAMCO reeds in my junque box today, and can't remember if these are VibraSponder or VibraSender compatible reeds. Part number is A01863 (Tone 141.3). Can anyone remember if these -sponders are or -senders?? Thanks! Mark - N9WYS Yahoo! Groups Links -- Smart pills are placebos, you can't fix stupid. -- Smart pills are placebos, you can't fix stupid. -- No virus found in this incoming message. Checked by AVG - www.avg.com Version: 8.0.237 / Virus Database: 270.11.9/1993 - Release Date: 03/10/09 07:19:00
Re: [Repeater-Builder] 6 meter mastRII Base
NEAL; Call me today if you can. Lance / 516 935 6249. I lost your phone #. - Original Message - From: neal Newman To: Repeater-Builder@yahoogroups.com Sent: Sunday, March 01, 2009 1:24 PM Subject: RE: [Repeater-Builder] 6 meter mastRII Base to the Brain trust Boy its been a busy and crazy 2 years with the house Fire. Now its Time to rebuild the repeaters that were lost in the fire. thank Gd 2 meters and the 440 were at a comercial site. 220 is on the bench and almost Finished to be put back up. one of the 6 meter machines. Finished ready t goto the site. Sal is sending me a GE Key Thank you. The GMRS Machine is ready to Be put back at a site. The Last 6 meter machine was trashed by the Fire dept. I picked up a 100 watt Base station To be mod'ed. Before I started. the TX was giving 100 watts into the Dummy load on 46.100 I did the basic Repeater mods as Per the repeater Builders pages. Now I get Nothing I have the 10 Volts to the exciter and OSC. I have Pin 4 and 8 for F1 grounded. now I am Frustrated. Not worried about the RX yet. that still mutes when REM TX is depressed.I may have missed that jumper on the 10V reg board. anyone on the list here in NJ or Philly area. that Know MastrII base stations that can Help. I also need to rebuild a melted Hardline Duplexer for this machine once its completed. Where is Steve N2CKH when I need himLOL.. I know I must be missing something simple. Neal -KA2CAF -- No virus found in this incoming message. Checked by AVG - www.avg.com Version: 8.0.237 / Virus Database: 270.11.5/1978 - Release Date: 03/01/09 07:04:00
Re: [Repeater-Builder] WANTED: exec II desktop
I have a few, all 100% working, clean. uhf and vhf, 50.00 each, plus shipping. (desk models) Lance N2HBA - Original Message - From: Chris Curtis To: Repeater-Builder@yahoogroups.com Sent: Tuesday, February 24, 2009 2:32 PM Subject: [Repeater-Builder] WANTED: exec II desktop How goes it everyone? Chris, kb0wlf here. I'm looking for Exec II desktop or wall mount radios. I'd like a vhf-lo, vhf-hi, and a uhf. Preferably, of course, INEXPENSIVE. =] Putting together a system with 6m/2m repeaters and a 70cm remote base. After reading the repeater building checklist, I decided to put another system on the air. Brings a tear to the eye thinking of the system I parted out. Well, the FF-800 controller anyway. =] Thanks for the bandwidth -- No virus found in this incoming message. Checked by AVG - www.avg.com Version: 8.0.237 / Virus Database: 270.11.3/1969 - Release Date: 02/24/09 06:43:00
Re: [Repeater-Builder] Micor Repeater
Where are they?,complete or parts?, cabinets? how many and how much? Lance N2HBA - Original Message - From: Maire-Radios To: Repeater-Builder@yahoogroups.com Sent: Monday, February 16, 2009 6:10 PM Subject: Re: [Repeater-Builder] Micor Repeater FYI have a number UHF 460 to 470 band Unified chassis repeaters for sale very low cost some working some for parts. John - Original Message - From: Kevin Custer To: Repeater-Builder@yahoogroups.com Sent: Monday, February 16, 2009 5:54 PM Subject: Re: [Repeater-Builder] Micor Repeater Ralph S. Turk wrote: Kevin Unified Chassis meaning TX on top Control Shelf and Rx etc on bottom. Most chassis' were set-up this way, so please read on - and answer again. A Unified Chassis is a chassis that is not made up of separate rack-mounted units. The Non Unified Chassis is exactly what it says it is. Each of the units (the TX, control shelf, and RX) are separate and connected together electrically with a 50 conductor ribbon cable. The Unified Chassis has a Back-Plane Board that is tall enough to 'reach' the TX and RX compartments, and no ribbon cable exists. The Unified Chassis is easily identified as having sloping covers on the TX and RX. Here's a picture of a Unified Chassis: http://www.kuggie.com/ahra/pix/DSC00027.jpg Thanks, Kevin -- No virus found in this incoming message. Checked by AVG - www.avg.com Version: 8.0.237 / Virus Database: 270.10.25/1956 - Release Date: 02/16/09 18:31:00
Re: [Repeater-Builder] Power Supply Transformer Supplier....
I have one from a Spectrum repeater power supply..25.00, shipping included. Lance N2HBA - Original Message - From: lou_c1357 To: Repeater-Builder@yahoogroups.com Sent: Friday, February 06, 2009 1:35 PM Subject: [Repeater-Builder] Power Supply Transformer Supplier Anyone know of a supplier for power supply transformers? I am looking to home brew a nice liner DC supply (~25 Amp range), but I am having no luck finding a transformer supplier with reasonable prices. Thanks, Lou K2LRV -- No virus found in this incoming message. Checked by AVG - http://www.avg.com Version: 8.0.233 / Virus Database: 270.10.18/1936 - Release Date: 2/5/2009 11:34 AM
Re: [Repeater-Builder] Re: OT: Class 'B' CB
yes, the radio you saw was a Vocaline... about 5 watts input. Class B was short lived to be sure, it never gained much use as there was almost no supply of usable equipment.Class A was different, 50 watts, FM, using commercial equipment, GE, Motorola, RCA, LINK, etc. many taxi companies took advantage of this service as it initially offered totally empty channels and great coverage in urban areas. The major trouble was stability of the equipment, AFC was offered in many radios in an attempt to keep them on channel, which was not easy Lance N2HBA - Original Message - From: Ben To: Repeater-Builder@yahoogroups.com Sent: Saturday, January 17, 2009 8:17 AM Subject: [Repeater-Builder] Re: OT: Class 'B' CB Does anyone have any info on the old class B CB? I'm thinking it was a single simplex channel on 465.000 and 5 watts. May have been another frequency. Could have been AM too. I remember seeing an old lunchbox type radio for this service at a flea market once. I'm betting they are pretty rare now since the service was short lived. Ben -- No virus found in this incoming message. Checked by AVG - http://www.avg.com Version: 8.0.176 / Virus Database: 270.10.8/1898 - Release Date: 1/16/2009 3:09 PM
Re: [Repeater-Builder] Micor UHF Receiver
That's perfectly normal. lance N2HBA - Original Message - From: mike To: Repeater-Builder@yahoogroups.com Sent: Thursday, December 18, 2008 9:19 PM Subject: [Repeater-Builder] Micor UHF Receiver I looked in the files section but didn't see anything about the discriminator circuit. The receiver I'am working on is an unmodified Micor UHF 450-470mhz. I have had the channel element recrystaled by ICM for 455.xxx. After going through the alignment. I tried to adjusted the discriminator to 0 by shorting the AFC circuit as discribed in the manual. I can bring discriminator to zero but after removing the short it drifts up to 1 on the meter. It sounds okay and the receiver sensitivity is within factory specs. I don't understand why the discriminator drifts up after tuning it. Any info on this would be helpful Thanks and Happy holidays to everyone Mike -- No virus found in this incoming message. Checked by AVG - http://www.avg.com Version: 8.0.176 / Virus Database: 270.9.19/1855 - Release Date: 12/18/2008 10:16 AM
Re: [Repeater-Builder] E.F. Johnson Repeaters
Hello, I serviced many of these back in the day... the 1010 is a slightly later version of the 1000, both are good units, and will retune into the ham band with little or no modification needed. The crystals are very 'finicky', do not try to replace them yourself, only International Crystal can successfully do them, you must return the ICOMS for the 1010 to them. the 1000 uses crystals without the icom as standard, but with a separate icom-like oscillator on a flip up chassis in the exciter unit on optional stability models.. The Wacom duplexer is a far superior unit to the DB one. The PA requires about 7 to 15 watts to drive to full power... ba careful however, it is possible to get over 130 watts out from the amp. ... great for a very short time. Adjust the power set for 95 watts, no more, and it should run forever. Schematic-wise, the TX and RX are basically mobiles, Fleetcom 559 as I recall. The 1000 receiver should have an gold colored metal shield kit around the chassis, an optional, but very much needed item for good performance. The later 1010 units are built as slide out brown colored drawer units, complete with an integral controller unit, programmable from a touch tone key set on the front, it sets PL, cor, etc. lance N2HBA - Original Message - From: D. To: Repeater-Builder@yahoogroups.com Sent: Sunday, December 14, 2008 7:42 PM Subject: [Repeater-Builder] E.F. Johnson Repeaters Hello to the group. i am in need of some information on E.F. Johnson Repeaters. I am looking for any data about retuning them back into the UHF ham band. I have two different machines with different product numbers on the exciter / receiver / PA Both machines have a controller, Channel Guard (PL Tones) First Machine: Model number of 023-1010-531 on the receiver, and M# 023-1010-120 on the exciter, and a M# of 023-1010-200 on the PA. With Waycom Duplexers 464.825/469.825 Second Machine: Model # 023-3823 on RX, M# 242-1000-001 on TX, Decible Products Duplexer 461.175/466.175 the PA is a TPL Communications RXR series. I also have a third PA without any markings on it other than this A033A053A 21532 I would like to have anything that would pertain to modifying there to the UHF Ham Band. Manuals on the original configuration from E.F. Johnson, to details from someone who has made this mod. I will furnish Photos if this would help. Thanks, Danny N5DRG -- No virus found in this incoming message. Checked by AVG - http://www.avg.com Version: 8.0.176 / Virus Database: 270.9.18/1848 - Release Date: 12/14/2008 12:28 PM
Re: [Repeater-Builder] Micor PA schematic / Power Control Board
The PA is only factory rated at 78 watts...there is no 100 watt Micor amp. Some however, will do 100... Lance N2HBA - Original Message - From: georgiaskywarn To: Repeater-Builder@yahoogroups.com Sent: Thursday, October 30, 2008 5:44 AM Subject: [Repeater-Builder] Micor PA schematic / Power Control Board Anybody have a schematic for the Micor 100watt PA? Also can only get about 78 watts out of this thing. Have changed out the power control board...either board the power doesn't go up or down. Ideas? Haven't tried this yet; http://www.hamrepeater.org/micr_uhf.htm (bottom of the page to defeat this portion) but am going to try it tonight. Thanks, Robert KD4YDC -- No virus found in this incoming message. Checked by AVG - http://www.avg.com Version: 8.0.175 / Virus Database: 270.8.5/1755 - Release Date: 10/29/2008 5:27 PM
Re: [Repeater-Builder] Re: Micor PA schematic / Power Control Board
Pull the control lead off of the amp, it is on the backplane, pin 3( a screw) on the top left corner. If you have voltage on the screw, your power board is OK, and the amp is the trouble, usually a bad control stage. if, with the control lead off, you have no voltage, check the chassis mounted transistor underneath the power set board, and the voltages on the 3 pin molex connector that powers the board . you should have one lead at ground, one at 10volts, one at 12 volts. - Original Message - From: georgiaskywarn To: Repeater-Builder@yahoogroups.com Sent: Thursday, October 30, 2008 12:05 PM Subject: [Repeater-Builder] Re: Micor PA schematic / Power Control Board Ok. Let's look at this then. I have no power control from the Power Control Board. Can't turn it up or down. Tried 2 different boards as well. 1) Ideas? 2) Don't have the schematic in front of mebut can't find the caps on the schematics I have...listed from the below web site. Thanks, Robert --- In Repeater-Builder@yahoogroups.com, Gary Glaenzer [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: there is no 100 watt Micor amp without qualifiers, that is a pretty broad statement Gary - Original Message - From: Captainlance To: Repeater-Builder@yahoogroups.com Sent: Thursday, October 30, 2008 10:11 AM Subject: Re: [Repeater-Builder] Micor PA schematic / Power Control Board The PA is only factory rated at 78 watts...there is no 100 watt Micor amp. Some however, will do 100... Lance N2HBA - Original Message - From: georgiaskywarn To: Repeater-Builder@yahoogroups.com Sent: Thursday, October 30, 2008 5:44 AM Subject: [Repeater-Builder] Micor PA schematic / Power Control Board Anybody have a schematic for the Micor 100watt PA? Also can only get about 78 watts out of this thing. Have changed out the power control board...either board the power doesn't go up or down. Ideas? Haven't tried this yet; http://www.hamrepeater.org/micr_uhf.htm (bottom of the page to defeat this portion) but am going to try it tonight. Thanks, Robert KD4YDC -- No virus found in this incoming message. Checked by AVG - http://www.avg.com Version: 8.0.175 / Virus Database: 270.8.5/1755 - Release Date: 10/29/2008 5:27 PM -- No virus found in this incoming message. Checked by AVG - http://www.avg.com Version: 8.0.175 / Virus Database: 270.8.5/1755 - Release Date: 10/29/2008 5:27 PM
Re: [Repeater-Builder] air com
602 275 4505, ask for Sid lance/N2HBA - Original Message - From: Glen To: Repeater Builder Sent: Monday, September 15, 2008 1:52 PM Subject: [Repeater-Builder] air com Does anyone have a phone number or web site address for Air Com in Phoenix. The aircom.com does not look like a place that sells used stuff! Thanks, Glen K4KV -- No virus found in this incoming message. Checked by AVG - http://www.avg.com Version: 8.0.169 / Virus Database: 270.6.21/1673 - Release Date: 9/15/2008 6:49 PM
Re: [Repeater-Builder] Celwave PD128-2T Tuning Instructions
Yes, I have used several of them, and have the factory tuning sheets for both 10 and 6 meters, i will dig them out and get back to you ASAP.. lance N2HBA - Original Message - From: Harry Miller To: Repeater-Builder@yahoogroups.com Sent: Tuesday, September 09, 2008 1:45 PM Subject: [Repeater-Builder] Celwave PD128-2T Tuning Instructions Does anyone have the tuning instructions for a Celwave PD128-2T 30- 54MHz antenna. Contacted the manufacture and they say it's obsolete and they don't have instructions anymore. I found reference that said the 2FT meant that it was field tunable with a hack saw and tape, but you needed the specific lenghts. Has anyone had any experience with the antenna. We want to tune it to 52 MHz form a repeater. Harry W6HFM -- No virus found in this incoming message. Checked by AVG - http://www.avg.com Version: 8.0.169 / Virus Database: 270.6.21/1669 - Release Date: 9/12/2008 2:18 PM
Re: [Repeater-Builder] Re: kxn-1024 conversion
Both elements are interchangeable, only the stability is different, 2.5 parts vs. 5 PPM - Original Message - From: fxbuilder To: Repeater-Builder@yahoogroups.com Sent: Saturday, July 12, 2008 11:46 PM Subject: [Repeater-Builder] Re: kxn-1024 conversion Perhaps someone has a kxn-1029 that I can purchase? Please contact me off the list. Thanks Craig --- In Repeater-Builder@yahoogroups.com, fxbuilder [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: So, the kxn-1029 is hard to find. Can a 1024 be modified to be a 1029? I've got several Micors I'd like to turn into GMRS repeaters. Any help would be appreciated. Thanks, Craig No virus found in this incoming message. Checked by AVG - http://www.avg.com Version: 8.0.138 / Virus Database: 270.4.10/1549 - Release Date: 7/12/2008 4:31 PM
Re: [Repeater-Builder] Cooling fan
We have found that 12v. fans do cause interference with our link transmitters for the NYC voting network. The solution we found is taking one of the 2 power supply chokes from an old Micor mobile radio and using it in series with the 12v. lead to the fan, add a cap. 2000 mfd or larger from fan to ground and the level of AC imposed on the power lead drops from nearly 4 VOLTS to less than 10 millivolts...Resulting in a totally clean carrier. lance N2HBA - Original Message - From: Doug Hutchison To: Repeater-Builder@yahoogroups.com Sent: Saturday, April 26, 2008 4:48 AM Subject: [Repeater-Builder] Cooling fan Hi, Have tried a few ex equipment and CPU cooler fans on a p/a heatsink but all generate a noise (light buzz) on the transmitted signal. Can anyone suggest the correct choice of fan (or what I am missing) to stop the buzz on the transmitted signal? RF choke? Tried cap up to 4700uf little change? Thank you, Doug - GM7SVK -- No virus found in this incoming message. Checked by AVG. Version: 7.5.524 / Virus Database: 269.23.4/1397 - Release Date: 4/25/2008 7:42 AM
[Repeater-Builder] PL REEDS WANTED
Wanted to buy: Motorola TLN6824/KLN6210 encoders, 136.5 Hz. TLN8381 DECODERS 136.5 Any quantity accepted. Lance Alfieri N2HBA [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: [Repeater-Builder] Re: 24 vdc to 12vdc
Speaking of odd ball power problems, I have a new in box Astron model 4812-20 converter. 32 to 56 volts input, 13.8 volts out @20 amps. Great for shipboard or railroad use... $40.00 shipped anywhere in USA lance N2HBA - Original Message - From: Dave VanHorn To: Repeater-Builder@yahoogroups.com Sent: Monday, March 24, 2008 11:55 PM Subject: [Repeater-Builder] Re: 24 vdc to 12vdc Someone else mentioned the Astron converter. You can also buy inverters (usually online) designed for 24V input, and use that to run a small gel cell charger, with an appropriately sized gel cell. Neither the charger or the battery need to be big, unless you need to transmit a lot. The charge refills the battery when you're listening, or when the radio is off. Resistors are a bad idea, and tapping power from one battery is another bad idea, not just because of the damage to the high side battery, but the transients in a 24V system are double that in a 12V system, and your 12V radio has likely not been designed to live in that environment. -- No virus found in this incoming message. Checked by AVG. Version: 7.5.519 / Virus Database: 269.21.8/1340 - Release Date: 3/23/2008 6:50 PM
[Repeater-Builder] Wanted: Low Power Mobile
I am seeking a Maxtrac, Radius, GM300, type radio UHF, LOW power, (2 watts)mobile radio. Originally sold for low power industrial channels. Lance N2HBA
Re: [Repeater-Builder] Micor power supply issue
The main supply is only used for the PA, so a bit of AC there won't cause hum in the audio. Check the regulated 9.6 and 12.v supplies on the PC board, these tend to dry out the 100uf caps causing hum. A simple check with a scope will tell all. Motorola's spec on AC is 60millivolts, max. on any supply. if your main supply is sagging below 13.0 volts, check the 2 chassis mounted diodes. it is normal for this part of the supply to start out at about 15.5 volts and drop to as low as 13 ( normal). lance N2HBA - Original Message - From: kk2ed To: Repeater-Builder@yahoogroups.com Sent: Thursday, January 17, 2008 10:59 PM Subject: [Repeater-Builder] Micor power supply issue Good Evening, I have a Micor 75 station power supply that is acting up. When the repeater is idle, the voltage output appears clean. But as the load is increased (ie: power output increased), the voltage sags and I get an annoying hum on the tx (indicative of AC ripple on the dc side?). It started out as a barely noticeable hum; the past few days it has gotten to the point where I just shut down the repeater's tx. I haven't had a chance to get to the site to swap it out with a spare. But I'm curious as to what kind of repair I'm in for, and others' experience with Micor supplies. What tends to be the failure and/or cause of the above condition? Pass transistor failure? Filter caps? Ferro-resonant circuit (cap)? Thanks for any input Eric KE2D
Re: [Repeater-Builder] cavity duplexer
if you have rg142 available, it's functionally the same type of cable. - Original Message - From: vk4cya To: Repeater-Builder@yahoogroups.com Sent: Thursday, January 10, 2008 4:21 AM Subject: [Repeater-Builder] cavity duplexer Hello to the group, I have just joined the group.The local radio club that i'm in it putting together a cavity duplexer alot like the one in the july 1972 issue of qst.We are going ahead leaps and bounds but we have came across a problem it is suggested that we use rg55/u coax on the cavity's but the problem is that i can't find anyone in australia selling that type of coax.So is there anyone that could help me in suggesting what else could be used.I have found a couple of sites on the net that have rg55/u but in roll form.We are looking for around 2 metres of it only. Any help would be most great Thamks Wayne vk4cya
Re: [Repeater-Builder] Mot? Lo-Band duplexers
HI Scott, Yes, I've seen and dealt with them before.The isolation isn 't the greatest, we had a few in public safety systems years ago, the only way to get good duplexing was to add a pass cavity in the rx and TX.( We ran about 1mhz. spacings) They are actually DB Products private labeled with the Big M on it. There is an article on repeater Builder about them. Lance Alfieri N2HBA - Original Message - From: Scott Zimmerman To: Repeater Builder List Sent: Wednesday, January 09, 2008 2:50 PM Subject: [Repeater-Builder] Mot? Lo-Band duplexers Anyone seen a set of these before? Any documentation available? Can they be used on 6M? I have never seen this type of duplexer They are marked with 37.98 as a frequency. The open port on the tees kinda makes me wonder. These are not mine. I can't lay hands on them personally. I am posting this for a friend, and out of general curiosity. Scott . Scott Zimmerman Amateur Radio Call N3XCC 612 Barnett Rd Boswell, PA 15531
Re: [Repeater-Builder] Wow!!! only $449!!!!
Yes,it's a tad expensive, but it is remote control...! Lance - Original Message - From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: Repeater-Builder@yahoogroups.com Sent: Saturday, December 22, 2007 3:55 PM Subject: Re: [Repeater-Builder] Wow!!! only $449 It doesn't even have the Extender version receiver! A necessity on low-band. -Original Message- From: Maire-Radios Sent: Dec 22, 2007 12:27 PM To: Repeater-Builder@yahoogroups.com Subject: Re: [Repeater-Builder] Wow!!! only $449 Had 2 of them that I had the trash man take after I could not even give them away. John - Original Message - From: Ken Arck To: Repeater-Builder@yahoogroups.com Sent: Saturday, December 22, 2007 2:10 PM Subject: [Repeater-Builder] Wow!!! only $449 Ooops, dropped a 2 from the Ebay item number. Here's the correct one 280185868722 Ken -- President and CTO - Arcom Communications Makers of repeater controllers and accessories. http://www.arcomcontrollers.com/ Authorized Dealers for Kenwood and Telewave and we offer complete repeater packages! AH6LE/R - IRLP Node 3000 http://www.irlp.net We don't just make 'em. We use 'em!
Re: [Repeater-Builder] Re: antennas for gmrs repeater
Check out COMTELCO antennas, they are on the web at www.comtelcoantennas.com I have many of them in service with 100% results. They are equal in gain and performance to other more expensive antennas. I recommend the ones with 1.5 inch tubes, not the smaller 1inch tube models. Lance - Original Message - From: Tony L. To: Repeater-Builder@yahoogroups.com Sent: Thursday, December 20, 2007 10:22 AM Subject: [Repeater-Builder] Re: antennas for gmrs repeater My first recommendation would be a RF Systems PD1151, but since you don't want to spend the money for a Station Master, how about a Hustler Newtronics G6-450-3? You should be able to pick one of these up for under $200. Reportedly, they stand up to the weather pretty well. The first choice PD1151 would run you about $650. --- In Repeater-Builder@yahoogroups.com, Jed Barton [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Hey guys, Any opinions on an antenna for a gmrs repeater? It won't be going on a 300 foot tower, but it will be on the top of a hospital. I would rather not get a station master, but something that could withstand a little weather. Any ideas on the biggest bang for the buck? Thanks, Jed
Re: [Repeater-Builder] Re: Micor conversion question
You can use the caps you have, the reason for them is to lower the resonant frequency of the coils, a small change in value will only move the location of the core slightly. Not a problem. - Original Message - From: fxbuilder To: Repeater-Builder@yahoogroups.com Sent: Wednesday, December 12, 2007 5:04 PM Subject: [Repeater-Builder] Re: Micor conversion question Thanks, forgot about Mouser. Craig --- In Repeater-Builder@yahoogroups.com, George Henry [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Mouser has no minimum order $$ requirement (some parts have minimum quantities, but hardly unreasonable)... and I usually receive my orders from them within 2 days. George, KA3HSW / WQGJ413 -Original Message- From: fxbuilder [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Dec 12, 2007 2:04 PM To: Repeater-Builder@yahoogroups.com Subject: [Repeater-Builder] Micor conversion question My question is on the Jim Reese uhf Micor conversion. I'm having trouble finding the 27pf.39pf, and 12pf caps locally. Can I substitute 22,33,10 in their place? Craig
Re: [Repeater-Builder] 2 Meter Duplexer Recommendations?
I use 2 of these, try adding an additional pass cavity on the RX side.it improves the performance greatly. Also, check the duplexer with an return loss bridge and a tracking generator. The slightest off-tune of the unit, especially the rejects and you get noise.I assume that you are suing double shielded cables, like rg142, and NO coaxial adaptors in line. Additionally, make sure that your transmission line is NOT the LMR stuff... very bad for duplex situations. Lance - Original Message - From: Tony L. To: Repeater-Builder@yahoogroups.com Sent: Wednesday, November 07, 2007 11:10 PM Subject: [Repeater-Builder] 2 Meter Duplexer Recommendations? My Celwave PD 497-1-1 VHF duplexer just can't seem to provide adequate tx/rx isolation (Micor 100 watt repeater with 0.6 MHz tx/rx separation). Everything else seems to check out okay; jumper cables, connectors, receiver, and hard line. I've heard the PD 497-1-1 isn't the latest in duplexer design and was wondering what other VHF repeater owners might recommend with regard to high performing, closed spaced duplexers for moderate power applications. Thanks.
Re: [Repeater-Builder] Micor spectratac tone board reed question
it will cause no trouble. The main difference in the 2 reeds is the size. - Original Message - From: tony dinkel To: repeater-builder@yahoogroups.com Sent: Wednesday, November 07, 2007 12:57 AM Subject: [Repeater-Builder] Micor spectratac tone board reed question I have a spectratac receiver I am refurbing for a friend. It came with a K-1000 reed installed in the stock tone board. Now I know this calls for a TLN-8381 reed but the k-1000 seems to work OK. Its sensitive, seems to open on 200-300 hz deviation, seems centered frequency wise. Anybody with any experience on this, should a k-1000 work ok in this application? Anybody got a 103.5 tln-8381? Should I bother worrying about it? td wb6mie
Re: [Repeater-Builder] Advice on repeater relocation
Comtelco makes a REAL dual band antenna, rugged, and great quality. Costs about 300.00. For a diplexor that will handle the power and not kill off the weak signals, the only choice is TXRX Systems, they make both tower mount and base mount units,super quality, Wew have used several of them on public safety installations. lance N2HBA - Original Message - From: Charles Lowery To: Repeater-Builder@yahoogroups.com Sent: Monday, November 05, 2007 3:41 PM Subject: [Repeater-Builder] Advice on repeater relocation Let me start by saying that I have been around ham repeaters for a long time but I have not set one up this way. I have been given the opportunity to use a 220 foot tower near the high school radio club's location. We are being allowed to mount one antenna at the top and use of the building at the base. We have two repeaters one on 145.35 and one on 444.625 that will need to use one antenna. I need advice on the antenna choice and diplexor for the setup. I know this may not be the best solution but it is what we are allowed. We have 300' of new andrews 1/2 hardline and new connectors and hardware donated by a former student of mine. Any advice would be appreciated. Charles Lowery, NM4V
Re: [Repeater-Builder] KENWOOD TKR 750 Installation and problems-HELP!!
We have done numerous installation of small in-building repeaters in high rise buildings in New York City. We drop cheap rg213 down the elevator shaft, securing it of course, and about every 3 floors install a T connector with a 1/4 wave antenna made of solid wire soldered into a PL259. works 100% every time, and so cheap to do. Lance N2HBA - Original Message - From: Ray Brown To: Repeater-Builder@yahoogroups.com Sent: Monday, October 29, 2007 9:13 PM Subject: Re: [Repeater-Builder] KENWOOD TKR 750 Installation and problems-HELP!! Hi, Jim... I'm trying to do the same thing, to cover the interior of a 6-floor building with a LMR VHF repeater, and I tried suggesting a 1/4 wave mounted upside down as you suggested, and the Motorola guy scratched his head and said WTHeck? He was still trying to sell me a DB224 to cover the inside of the building. :-( Thanks for the confirmation! _Ray_KBØSTN - Original Message - From: Jim Brown To: Repeater-Builder@yahoogroups.com Sent: Monday, October 29, 2007 11:22 AM Subject: Re: [Repeater-Builder] KENWOOD TKR 750 Installation and problems-HELP!! One suggestion is to go to a simple ground plane antenna, and mount it upside down on top of your terminal building. The gain in an antenna will concentrate the radiation out on the horizon, which is not what you want. The upside down ground plane with no gain might be your best bet to have local coverage and have coverage directly beneith the antenna. 73 - Jim W5ZIT
Re: [Repeater-Builder] Lightning Damage, new UHF antenna needed
Check out Comtelco antennas, you will find them online. We use several of them, very good quality, reasonable cost. lance/N2HBA - Original Message - From: Jay Urish To: Repeater-Builder@yahoogroups.com Sent: Thursday, September 20, 2007 10:32 PM Subject: Re: [Repeater-Builder] Lightning Damage, new UHF antenna needed Jeff wrote: Hi all, Well, it finally happened. We got hit by lightning. And it blew the antenna in half on the 444.325 machine here at the college. It wasn't a great antenna to begin with, obviously. We'd like to go back with something much better if possible. We're thinking maybe a multibay folded dipole antenna of some sort with an omni pattern like the DB 404, but if there's a better choice we'd love to hear it. There don't seem to be a lot of choices in antennas tuned for Amateur Repeaters. Most of the ones we're seeing are Part 90 antennas (450-470 MHz). I don't know how much trouble it would be to retune one or in the case of phased folded dipoles if it's even possible. What is the consensus Best UHF Repeater Antenna, considering all the above (omnidirectional, probably no more than 100 watts)? Get a DB-420... They are plenty broadband...Don't think.. Just do it! -- Jay Urish W5GM ARRL Life Member Denton County ARRL VEC N5ERS VP/Trustee Monitoring 444.850 PL-88.5
Re: [Repeater-Builder] Duplexers
If the duplexer is correctly tuned, there will be NO measurable SWR into it. If you have 25/60 watts, it is way off frequency. - Original Message - From: dallasreact112 To: Repeater-Builder@yahoogroups.com Sent: Friday, August 24, 2007 7:16 PM Subject: [Repeater-Builder] Duplexers Anyone one know what to expect SWR wise with a duplexer? I have a DB products 2 meter duplexer on an amateur repeater. Measuring with a Bird wattmeter between the duplexer and antenna I read 50W forward and a couple watts reverse. That is ok. But when I check between the transmitter and the TX port on the duplexer I get a about 60 W forward and 25W reverse power. Is there a rule fo thumb for a known good SWR value thru a duplexer? Should a good duplexer introduce any significant SWR? Thanks Bernie Parker K5BP
Re: [Repeater-Builder] Your old work bench - shop pictures are on ebay!
Wow... that's old. The best is the T44ransmitter.. 450 mhz, 12 watts with a pair of 2C39's. and a 41V receiver.with the 60KHZ if filter still in! Lance N2HBA - Original Message - From: skipp025 To: Repeater-Builder@yahoogroups.com Sent: Tuesday, July 31, 2007 6:11 PM Subject: [Repeater-Builder] Your old work bench - shop pictures are on ebay! Your old work-bench and/or shop pictures on ebay! In case you didn't take any pictures of your bench or shop in years past... some of your equipment found its way onto ebay. :-) LOT OF TUBE GENERAL ELECTRIC MOTOROLA PARTS Ebay Item number: 140143649238 enjoy... s.
Re: [Repeater-Builder] Any Motorola banana reeds still around?
Receiver reed is a TU333, transmitter reed is a TU217 - Original Message - From: lenaw12 To: Repeater-Builder@yahoogroups.com Sent: Sunday, July 15, 2007 8:31 PM Subject: [Repeater-Builder] Any Motorola banana reeds still around? I could sure use a 100.0 cycle Vibrasponder and a 151.4 Vibrasender (TU-217)to finish up a classic project I started 30 years ago. The box is a L41GGB-3100A but I remember swapping out the transmitter at one time or another...still takes TU-217 Banana style though but i don't know what the receiver reed's real designation is...it just looks the same as a 217. Many thanks to all! Roger WA1KAT
Re: [Repeater-Builder] Any Motorola banana reeds still around?
Yes, a U51GGT on 10 meters, and a U43GGT on 2 meters... also a GE Progress line on 2M, ( MT36)... and a DuMont 5814, 2 meter, 6 volt in my 1950 DeSoto ! Lance N2HBA - Original Message - From: JOHN MACKEY To: Repeater-Builder@yahoogroups.com Sent: Monday, July 16, 2007 7:23 PM Subject: RE: [Repeater-Builder] Any Motorola banana reeds still around? Does anyone else still have any T-power vitage radios operational? -- Original Message -- Received: Mon, 16 Jul 2007 07:11:00 PM CDT From: JOHN MACKEY [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: Repeater-Builder@yahoogroups.com Subject: RE: [Repeater-Builder] Any Motorola banana reeds still around? I know exactly what they are, they worked in the Motorola Twin-Vee, T-Power, early Motrac, and very early Motran radios. My address is: John Mackey, KS0F PO Box 1586 Beaverton, Oregon 97075 thanks -- Original Message -- Received: Mon, 16 Jul 2007 06:46:52 PM CDT From: Bill Hudson [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: Repeater-Builder@yahoogroups.com Subject: RE: [Repeater-Builder] Any Motorola banana reeds still around? Roger ~ Lots of people think these banana reeds are going to fit in their Micors and other standard Motorola radios - some have asked directly. These old banana reeds only work in Motorola radios constructed in the 1950's - or early 60's, that take a reed that is about 4 inches long. They may not be what John Mackey and others think they are. Your reeds will go out Wednesday. There's still some left - you may get them all. Should I use the address on QRZ? CBS Bill From: Repeater-Builder@yahoogroups.com [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of lenaw12 Sent: Monday, July 16, 2007 4:20 PM To: Repeater-Builder@yahoogroups.com Subject: RE: [Repeater-Builder] Any Motorola banana reeds still around? Hi Bill.. I know John Mackey want's to jump in on your generous offer but I could use 2 of the 100.0 cyclexmit and 2 of the 100.0 cycle receive reeds as per the first request...and I'll pay postage! I don't need the others but I would be the banana reed keeper if one was needed ;-) Thanks for your quick reply! Roger WA1KAT - Original Message - From: Bill Hudson [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: Repeater-Builder@yahoogroups.com Sent: Monday, July 16, 2007 2:04 PM Subject: RE: [Repeater-Builder] Any Motorola banana reeds still around? Like all good Ex-Mo's - we all have our box of reeds that sit in a drawer or on a shelf over the years, to exchange or help those that have a specific need. The banana reeds. TU-333 - vibrasponder - 100.0 Hz. (1Z) - I have 5 of them. You can have one, some, or all five if you want. TU-217 - vibrasender - 100.0 Hz. (1Z) - I have 3 if them. Whatever you want - is yours. TU-217 - Vibrasender - I have one each (2B) 118.8, (7Z) 186.2, and (ZB) 97.4. Whatever you want. 11 in all. It costs the same to ship one or all 11. I'll send them to you for free. I won't need them again. I'm glad to see them go. Then you can be the reed bank for banana reeds. I just need a good address and they will ship. I'll even pay the postage. Bill Hudson W6CBS From: Repeater-Builder@yahoogroups.com [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of lenaw12 Sent: Sunday, July 15, 2007 6:31 PM To: Repeater-Builder@yahoogroups.com Subject: [Repeater-Builder] Any Motorola banana reeds still around? I could sure use a 100.0 cycle Vibrasponder and a 151.4 Vibrasender (TU-217)to finish up a classic project I started 30 years ago. The box is a L41GGB-3100A but I remember swapping out the transmitter at one time or another...still takes TU-217 Banana style though but i don't know what the receiver reed's real designation is...it just looks the same as a 217. Many thanks to all! Roger WA1KAT Yahoo! Groups Links - Attachment: W6CBS.vcf MIME Type: text/x-vcard -
Re: [Repeater-Builder] Notch duplexer dumb question
It is the pass frequency. - Original Message - From: George Henry To: repeater-builder@yahoogroups.com Sent: Tuesday, July 10, 2007 8:56 AM Subject: [Repeater-Builder] Notch duplexer dumb question I have a Motorola TDN7407A notch duplexer (in reality, a Motorola-branded Celwave 633-6A-2N) that I want to use for a low-power GMRS repeater. The ports are labeled HI and LO now for the dumb question, do those labelings refer to the NOTCH frequency or the pass frequency? Unfortunately, it is not labeled with the current tuning, and I don't have easy access to anything to sweep it with George, KA3HSW / WQGJ413
Re: [Repeater-Builder] Micor Compa Repeater,Squelch Gate Interface RC-210
Making the Micor repeater work with a RC210 controller is very easy, I have 6 of them in service now. leave the station logic card in the rack, throw all the rest away. make sure that jumpers 1,4,and 5 are on the back plane. cut any others. jump pins 6 and 14 on the lower row of pins on the back plane(J2). connect the discriminator input of the 210 to pin 15 of J2 connect the mike input to screw#20 on the back plane connect the PTT input to screw #8 connect the cor input to J2, pin #10 if you are using PL connect the 12V input of the 210 to screw # 10 on the station card make sure that jumpers 1 through 9 are in, cut 10 and 11 take a IRC510 mosfet, using double sided tape, connect it to the backplane just above pins 19 and 20 of J5. connect the center lead to pin 19. connect the right lead to pin 20. connect the left lead to pin 27 with a piece of wire. that's all.. it will work fine. lance, N2HBA - Original Message - From: Paul Simpson To: Repeater-Builder@yahoogroups.com Sent: Friday, May 18, 2007 6:49 AM Subject: [Repeater-Builder] Micor Compa Repeater,Squelch Gate Interface RC-210 Heya Folks, This one is more directed at skipp seeing he was the one that come up with the mod I did on the squelch gate card in a Moto Mircor Compa Repeater I am trying to setup an RC-210 on. RC-210 to work on a Moto Micor Compa I had the repeater working before I started the project, but I cant seem to get audio into the controller. The controller senses that there is a carrier there when I generate an RF signal on my service monitor and once the carier breaks the squelch it will key up the transmitter. It will ident and play messages fine. But I have no repeat audio. Playing with the adjustments on the Disc pot (thinking it was just low audio) has done nothing to help. Is there something I am missing here? Is there something a bit differetnt to deal with on the Micors? Should I put the SG card back the way it was and choose another path? Any help you can offer would be greatly appreciated. 73's Paul VK2FWIZ
Re: [Repeater-Builder] Spectra Tac (Micor) receiver problem?
We have about 19 Spectra-Tac receivers online in our network, here are a few normal problems that you should check. 1) The power supply eats the 100uf caps like crazy, especially after 25+ years of use, we change them both as routine maintenance. 2) Likewise, on the audio board the same thing, electrolytics drop in value, not unusual for a 100uf to read 2uf... 3)On the receiver boards themselves, the small shield covers over the discriminator and high IF areas loose their grounds as the tiny pins that hold them down get oxidized. We clean them and solder the corners to the board, this fixes a multitude of problems, including squelch that won't close, and popping of the squelch. 4) if you use the 2175 encoder cards in your application, the test switches become open , especially the HIGH test, we replace them with a small toggle switch, this fixes lots of intermittent problems as well. 5) Be sure that your guard tome level is set to -13dbm, any lower and the receiver will false Hope this helps. lance N2HBA - Original Message - From: kc8lts To: Repeater-Builder@yahoogroups.com Sent: Monday, May 07, 2007 1:21 PM Subject: [Repeater-Builder] Spectra Tac (Micor) receiver problem? Has anyone encountered this problem with the Spectra Tac receivers? I have a number of receivers that are having an issue of the squelch being opened up by something in the circuitry ramping up a voltage. Or at least that is what I believe. The problem is that the receiver only has the PL holding it closed, no squelch control. Then when the PL gets falsed I get a lot of static noise floor across the repeater till the PL finally calms down and shuts the receiver off. If I go to the receive site the squelch pot on the receiver does nothing. If I take the board out and exchange it for another squelch board the squelch then works again for about a 24 hours to a week. I can then go back to the site and put the same old board I pulled out a couple days before back in and that one will again work for 24 hours to a week again. So the board must discharge the voltage after I pull it out of the receiver for a while. So I'm asking if anyone has run across this before and already has a solution to this issue. No matter what squelch board I put in the problem is the same. Any prior insite or experience would be greatly appreciated. Thanks, T.J.
Re: [Repeater-Builder] DB420 performance?
I have had the opportunity to check the db408 with an Anritsu, the antennas seem to have very low VSWR at 442.4, 447.1, 453.4 and the best at 459.8...I don't see why these wont work great throughout the band. Lance N2HBA - Original Message - From: Paul Finch [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: Repeater-Builder@yahoogroups.com Sent: Monday, April 30, 2007 8:10 AM Subject: RE: [Repeater-Builder] DB420 performance? Eric, I am using a commercial (450-470 split) antenna at 500 feet and it works great. Be sure and tighten all screws, nuts and clamps and seal all connections before putting it in the air. Paul -Original Message- From: Repeater-Builder@yahoogroups.com [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of kk2ed Sent: Sunday, April 29, 2007 9:21 PM To: Repeater-Builder@yahoogroups.com Subject: [Repeater-Builder] DB420 performance? Good Evening, I have a site with a PD455-5 at 400ft that has failed me after 10 years of service. The reflected power has risen to about 10% of the forward power, and coverage is drastically reduced. Rather than installing another PD455-5 (which will most likely fail in another 10 years due to the fact that it is top mounted without a support brace at the top), I was considering a folded dipole array. I hear that the DB420 is no longer made for the 440-450 split. Can I use a 450-470 split antenna at 443MHz without seeing any noticable performance degredation? Is it worth the extra money switching to the DB420? Also, I have considered using a PD-1151. Has anyone done any real- world comparison between the 10db PD455 and the 8db PD1151? Thanks Eric KE2D Yahoo! Groups Links No virus found in this incoming message. Checked by AVG Free Edition. Version: 7.5.467 / Virus Database: 269.6.2/779 - Release Date: 4/28/2007 3:32 PM No virus found in this outgoing message. Checked by AVG Free Edition. Version: 7.5.467 / Virus Database: 269.6.2/780 - Release Date: 4/29/2007 6:30 AM Yahoo! Groups Links Yahoo! Groups Links * To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/Repeater-Builder/ * Your email settings: Individual Email | Traditional * To change settings online go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/Repeater-Builder/join (Yahoo! ID required) * To change settings via email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] * To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] * Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
Re: [Repeater-Builder] VoCom UHF amp
I have several Vocom amps in service, Cresend backs them up 100%, their service and response is nothing less than fantastic. never had an issue with them. Lance N2HBA - Original Message - From: Nate Duehr To: Repeater-Builder@yahoogroups.com Sent: Tuesday, April 24, 2007 2:09 PM Subject: Re: [Repeater-Builder] VoCom UHF amp On 4/24/07, Al Wolfe [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Group, I recently aquired a VoCom UHF amplifier, model UVC100-18R, with some other stuff. It is presently tuned to 464 mHz, at least according to its nameplate and its former usage. The website shows that to order the Vocom line, you must provide input frequency and drive, indicating that there's possibly some tuning on the input. Can it be easily tuned to 444 mHz? Is tech data available somewhere? It seems that VoCom was bought/adsorbed by Cresend. Cresend still sells VoCom products but don't list much tech data on their website. Haven't even opened the case yet so don't know if there are adjustments. What should I look out for? It would appear (like in many companies) that the budget for the website comes from sales/marketing and not the support group or Engineering, so they have little technical information up there. Why not just call them and ask, Al? They have an 800 number, so the call is free... 800 USA MADE. Cute. You're going to need to know how good/bad they are at customer service when/if the thing blows up anyway... Might as well get through whatever processes they have to make yourself a known entity. Heck, they might even be smart enough to put you on a mailing list for any known technical issues that come up... unlikely, but if they're REALLY good... maybe. In fact, it's always fun to ASK if they have such a program. Always gets someone in the support group all excited and then they talk to the manager, and then a year later... they have one. (HA!) Let 'em know they need more tech specs and details up on their website, while you have 'em on the phone. (GRIN) Who knows? Maybe they'll give you a free re-tune for the idea? Yeah... right... haven't heard of anyplace doing customer service like THAT for a long time... sigh... Nate WY0X
[Repeater-Builder] Decibel Antenna question
Hello All. We obtained a new in box DB408D-B antenna, it is really a pair of DB404, 3.8 db antennas on a common mast with 2 feeedlines, equal to a DB408 split in half. My question is,m we want to use it as a single 408 antenna. how do we combine the 2 halves? I was told that they used to make a phasing harness, but no longer do so. I called Andrew tech support, and got nowhere, they have NO old drawings of these antennas. We also were given a used harness, a Y: shaped affair, with what Appears to be an impedance matching transformer in one leg, 2 legs marked IN and one marked OUT. All 3 have male N: connectors. Any ideas? Lance N2HBA
Re: [Repeater-Builder] UHF Micor Exciter Output Level??
One further thing: these are subject to intermittent pins connecting the back plane to the exciter interconnect board.. I have fixed many of these with excessive voltage drops on the exciter final 12 volt line pin, and the line connecting the 12 volts to the tripler.. also check the small plug that connects the tripler to the interconnect board.. another great piece of engineering! lance N2HBA - Original Message - From: John Everson To: Repeater-Builder@yahoogroups.com Sent: Sunday, April 08, 2007 10:42 PM Subject: [Repeater-Builder] UHF Micor Exciter Output Level?? Hi Guys. What is the power output of the UHF Micor (VHF really) exciter BEFORE the 1st bandpass filter? What about AFTER the 1st bandpass filter? I have the manuals, and I know what they say, but I am looking for some real world data. I have got to be doing something wrong or all of my spare parts have gone south on the shelf. I am not at my wits end but I can see that it isn't too far away. Here is our story. We had this 75 watt UHF Micor repeater donated to us. The PA was bad. The fellow said that's it, I ain't fixing this thing again.We thought we would fix it, tune it on a new channel, and donate it to a fellow that is in need of new hardware. The PA was bad, I discovered that all of my spares were junk, or near junk. Then, the tripler takes a dump, replaced that... 1.7 watts out of the tripler, now we are getting somewhere. I go and hookup the controller, intermittent COS... cracked backplane solder joint, fixed that. A day has passed, and now I have no output, again. I backtrack and find only 10-15 milliwatts out of the exciter direct, less out of the 1st filter. I have tried two other exciters, on the original channel elements, one is dead, and the other has only 10 milliwatts out. How did Charlie Brown put it??? AGGGH Am I missing something. Perhaps I have been messing with the GE stuff too long. Thanks in advance. John
Re: [Repeater-Builder] UHF Micor Exciter Output Level??
The exciter board makes about 500 mw, the tripler makes anywhere from 1.4 to 2.2watts, frequency dependant. - Original Message - From: John Everson To: Repeater-Builder@yahoogroups.com Sent: Sunday, April 08, 2007 10:42 PM Subject: [Repeater-Builder] UHF Micor Exciter Output Level?? Hi Guys. What is the power output of the UHF Micor (VHF really) exciter BEFORE the 1st bandpass filter? What about AFTER the 1st bandpass filter? I have the manuals, and I know what they say, but I am looking for some real world data. I have got to be doing something wrong or all of my spare parts have gone south on the shelf. I am not at my wits end but I can see that it isn't too far away. Here is our story. We had this 75 watt UHF Micor repeater donated to us. The PA was bad. The fellow said that's it, I ain't fixing this thing again.We thought we would fix it, tune it on a new channel, and donate it to a fellow that is in need of new hardware. The PA was bad, I discovered that all of my spares were junk, or near junk. Then, the tripler takes a dump, replaced that... 1.7 watts out of the tripler, now we are getting somewhere. I go and hookup the controller, intermittent COS... cracked backplane solder joint, fixed that. A day has passed, and now I have no output, again. I backtrack and find only 10-15 milliwatts out of the exciter direct, less out of the 1st filter. I have tried two other exciters, on the original channel elements, one is dead, and the other has only 10 milliwatts out. How did Charlie Brown put it??? AGGGH Am I missing something. Perhaps I have been messing with the GE stuff too long. Thanks in advance. John
[Repeater-Builder] Motorola portable GP350
I know it is off topic, but does anyone here have experience changing a GP350 UHF from 2 channel to 16? I have one that I want to do, and don't know where else to ask. Lance N2HBA
[Repeater-Builder] Motorola Meter wanted
Hello All, I am seeking to purchase a Motorola R1034A Control Line test Set. it is basically an ac millivolt meter with a dbm scale for setting telco line levels. Anybody have one gathering dust??? Lance N2HBA
Re: [Repeater-Builder] Amateur-Grade Radios (Was: Fixed Audio)
Yikes!. You mean that spark gap is dead! Lance N2HBA - Original Message - From: Jim B. To: Repeater-Builder@yahoogroups.com Sent: Thursday, March 15, 2007 8:59 AM Subject: Re: [Repeater-Builder] Amateur-Grade Radios (Was: Fixed Audio) Eric Lemmon wrote: Nate, Several years ago, I chastised ARRL Labs for failing to report the basic 2-way radio performance parameters of 12dB SINAD sensitivity, voice deviation limit, CTCSS deviation limit, and center frequency accuracy. I did not get a satisfactory answer, but I suspect that there is a reluctance to disparage the performance of name-brand Ham radios. That's probably because they don't know what those terms mean. They have their collective heads so buried in HF SSB that, to most of them, anything above 30 Mhz, and has a squelch control, isn't ham radio. Many still feel that CTCSS access on a ham repeater should be banned. -- Jim Barbour WD8CHL
[Repeater-Builder] Micor receiver below 440?
Anyone have any luck using a 450-470 Micor receiver below 440? I am considering using them as link receivers. Or, anyone use a 403-420 model in 430-440 use? Lance N2HBA
Re: [Repeater-Builder] 1953 Motorola BaseRadio for 6meters
The radio you have is probably an FSTR250, not 520... the IF is 455 kHz, not 10.7 so the filter crystals made by Comm. Spec will not work. I assume that you have the Sensicon A receiver, about 5 inches wide with a rather big IF filter, about 4x4x2. If the last letter on the filter is an S it is 5KHz width. if not, it's 15 KHZ.Changing the resistor between the plates of the 6AL5 Discriminator tube to a higher value.. 180K??? if memory serves correct,,will give you more audio recovery. Although the TU540S filter offered is incorrect for the receiver, it can be made to work in the older Sensicon by adjusting the gain of the IF amp. Lance N2HBA - Original Message - From: Eric Lemmon To: Repeater-Builder@yahoogroups.com Sent: Saturday, February 17, 2007 8:09 PM Subject: RE: [Repeater-Builder] 1953 Motorola BaseRadio for 6meters Dick, I think you're right about the bandwidth. Communications Specialists, one of the first companies to enter the narrow-banding market, is still in the same business. Com-Spec just might have the filter kit needed. Go here: www.com-spec.com/narrow.htm 73, Eric Lemmon WB6FLY -Original Message- From: Repeater-Builder@yahoogroups.com [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Dick Sent: Saturday, February 17, 2007 2:50 PM To: Repeater-Builder@yahoogroups.com Subject: Re: [Repeater-Builder] 1953 Motorola BaseRadio for 6meters If memory serves, that radio is old enough to be a wideband rig (+/- 15 kHz FM deviation). You can turn down the XMTR FM dev to +/- 5 kHz, but your receiver's bandwidth is more complex to narrow it down to +/- 5 KHz. As it is now, you're nowhere near filling up its RCV bandwidth, so the remaining RCVR bandwidth lets noise through. There used to be some parts around that you could replace in the RCVR to narrowband (+/- 5 KHz), but I suspect they'd be nearly impossible to find now. You might be better off digging up a more modern RCVR and using it. 73, Dick - Original Message - From: rod_shaner [EMAIL PROTECTED] mailto:kb8fly%40copper.net To: Repeater-Builder@yahoogroups.com mailto:Repeater-Builder%40yahoogroups.com Sent: 17 February, 2007 11:29 Subject: [Repeater-Builder] 1953 Motorola BaseRadio for 6meters Hi all, I'm seeking schematics, manuals, and advice on peaking a working unit. Its model number is FSTR520BR(FW)1ASP2. Just tearing that model number apart is a workload! It was a commercial base radio, and it's crystalled for 52.525 FM. Right now I'm trying to get as much as possible out of the receiver. It works, but 25 mile away 40W signal radiated through a vertical antenna is just out of the noise on this end. My receive antenna's base is 30 inches off the ground for test purposes. Advice is requested. Thanks
Re: [Repeater-Builder] Re: 1953 Motorola BaseRadio for 6metersCLARIFICATION
Hello Rod, To set things straight, the radio is NOT an 13V series as others have said, it is much newer. The radio you have is called a Research Line, Sensicon Receiver type radio. The nominal output was 250 watts. The radio is comprised of the following: Receiver: is a PA8633, the number you have is the part # of the RF deck, which is for 40 to 50 Mhz. the receiver uses a type B02 crystal. The high IFis 2.9 mhz, the low is 455 kHz. if the receiver has a 15 kHz bandwidth the Permakay IF filter is a K8436, if it was set for 5khz audio, the filter # is K8435. The exciter is a model PA8691B, the part number you listed is that of the basic unit. The crystal is a type B04, 16 times multiple. The P8066N is a DC line termination panel. this allowed the radio to be remote controlled over a copper phone line, by using a Motorola DC remote. the squelch control on the panel is just that. the other pot is for the adjustment of the line level, normally set at 0dbm with modulation. The 520 in the model number is the maximum plate input power, in watts. power supply-wise, the small supply with the 5R4 tubes is for the exciter, receiver, and panel lamps. The other, with the mercury vapor tubes id the HV+. Be careful, this can be a killer... I am sure, but to tell you anyway, never put the B+ on without letting the Mercury tubes get warm first, they could explode. There should be 2 interconnect switches in the rear cabinet doors to keep the unit from app;lying B+ and going into transmit with the door open. You should be able to pull the switch plunger OUT a bit and click to allow the radio to work with the door open, but be CAREFUL, lots of places with HIGH B+.These PA units were tuned with hot sticks. a rod made of clear plastic that allowed for the tuning of the plate and antenna couplers with the PA covers on. Any other questions, feel free to contact me. I have serviced many of these.. years ago. Lance Alfieri N2HBA [EMAIL PROTECTED] - Original Message - From: Rod Shaner [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: Repeater-Builder@yahoogroups.com Sent: Monday, February 19, 2007 8:55 AM Subject: Re: [Repeater-Builder] Re: 1953 Motorola BaseRadio for 6meters All these modules inside the cab are labeled thus: Final RF amplifier comprised of two PL-254W tubes: P-8233B Exciter: P-8630-AM2 this threw me because I thought for a moment it was AM not FM. Not true, it is FM. Receiver: P08607-AH incidentally, one of two crystals on receiver is 16.54167 MHz. There is another one, but it only says something like 3355 very nondiscript, in a 'pinch' holder, that is to say retained on the chassis by a pinch device. Power supply/ transformer chassis with 2ea. 5R4-GY tubes (regulators?) Xmit/Receive rotary switch panel: P-8449B Squelch/ Line Input Control---does this control the audio INTO the exciter? Microphone gain that is?: P-8066-N HV Power supply: P-8238-C-2 I cannot find a receiver model number that looks anything like this. Maybe there are other places to look. I really don't know about these model numbers that I have supplied here as to what they mean. I assume P prefix has some global meaning relating to the entire unit. The complete model number is: FSTR520BR(FW)1ASP2 The chassis number underneath the model number is: 1413 The mfr. date is Oct. 1953. This is found on the rear, at the top, outside the cabinet. What is the RED book, what is the yellow book? Can you clue me in. I'm willing to go to the library of Congress if necessary. All Your help(s) is VERY appreciated, Rod. On Sun, 18 Feb 2007 23:09:46 -0500, George Sintchak [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: As I mentioned in my earlier posting, The last IF is probably 1.7 MHz if the receiver model is a FMRU13V(A). A rcvr without the (A) in the model number was a less selective receiver that (I believe) used a higher freq last IF. That may be what you have with the 2.9 MHz last IF for low band receiver. NONE of these receivers had any type of Permakay filter or a 455 kHz last IF! What is the complete model number stamped on the blue front panel of the receiver under the Motorola name? You really need one of those Yellow schematic books I mentioned before. You are really testing my memory on all of this George --- In Repeater-Builder@yahoogroups.com, Rod Shaner [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: What is the IF for this 1953 Motorola 520BR rig? 2.9MHz?? R. On Sat, 17 Feb 2007 20:09:50 -0500, Eric Lemmon [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: www.com-spec.com/narrow.htm -- Using Opera's revolutionary e-mail client: http://www.opera.com/mail/ -- Using Opera's revolutionary e-mail client: http://www.opera.com/mail/ Yahoo! Groups Links Yahoo! Groups Links * To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/Repeater-Builder/ * Your email settings: Individual Email | Traditional * To change settings online go to:
Re: [Repeater-Builder] station master bandwidth?
bandwidth typically 1 mhz, max, - Original Message - From: w4wsm To: Repeater-Builder@yahoogroups.com Sent: Saturday, February 17, 2007 4:36 PM Subject: [Repeater-Builder] station master bandwidth? Hi, Any idea what kind of bandwidth a full size station master would have? VHF marked 153.XX...should it go down into the 2 meter band or are they very narrow? Ben
Re: [Repeater-Builder] Antenna cleaning solvent ???
Auto part stores carry Aluminum wheel cleaner, it is a strong chemical that strips off oxidation and leaves a clean , raw, surface. The only problem is that raw aluminum starts to oxidize immediately. You will need to covert the antenna with a coating of clear urethane to stop this from happening . This can be done with spray or brush. Lance N2HBA - Original Message - From: John To: Repeater-Builder@yahoogroups.com Sent: Wednesday, February 14, 2007 10:16 PM Subject: [Repeater-Builder] Antenna cleaning solvent ??? What is a good cleaning solvent for aluminum repeater antennas? I have an antenna that was exposed to the weather for years and it has become pitted and dirty from the enviroment. Thanks, John
Re: [Repeater-Builder] Micor Ribbon Cable
It's a common problem, Moto. fixed it by coming out with the unified chassis which eliminated the ribbon cable. You might try making up jumper wires to eliminate the ribbon, you can get edge connectors if you wish, or tear the ribbon apart for the plugs and start over. It's a pain, but it works... otherwise pickup a unified chassis on ebay ( about 70.00) and transplant the boards. Lance N2HBA - Original Message - From: n1tec To: Repeater-Builder@yahoogroups.com Sent: Wednesday, February 14, 2007 1:58 PM Subject: [Repeater-Builder] Micor Ribbon Cable We have a VHF Micor and during cold weather like we have now, we loose the audio level and it seems that our RF ouput is down. I go to the site. power off the Micor, reseat the 50 conductor ribbon cable on the back end of all three chasis, and all seems to be better for a while. But it returns. Has anyone experienced this before, and how did they resolve it? Thanks Steve
Re: [Repeater-Builder] Re: 6M cans still wanted in UK
Hello, I have several cans that were on 46.00 mhz, about 5 feet long, mostly DB products and celwave. They have external notch lines as well. If interested, I can photograph them for you. lance N2HBA - Original Message - From: dave_g7uzn To: Repeater-Builder@yahoogroups.com Sent: Monday, December 25, 2006 6:18 AM Subject: [Repeater-Builder] Re: 6M cans still wanted in UK Hi Chuck, I did make some enquiries about the price of the ali tubing but gave up when 4 lenghs of 8 diameter tubing alone was £750 (about $1500) Then there is all the insides and engineering costs! I'm prepared to pay $1000 for a good set of cans. Cheers Dave UZN --- In Repeater-Builder@yahoogroups.com, Barry C' [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I wish you would price the making of , as said previously I have done it at a fraction of used or new and for 6m I doubt you will have any luck to hop to it and start building . From: dave_g7uzn [EMAIL PROTECTED] Reply-To: Repeater-Builder@yahoogroups.com To: Repeater-Builder@yahoogroups.com Subject: [Repeater-Builder] Re: 6M cans still wanted in UK Date: Sun, 24 Dec 2006 16:27:34 - Thanks for the link Chuck...I have seen it before but the irrigation pipe is plastic in the UK! and to buy the raw materials new would cost more than a second hand set INCLUDING shipping. Cheers Dave UZN --- In Repeater-Builder@yahoogroups.com, Chuck Kelsey kelsey@ wrote: To be honest, finding surplus low band duplexers in the United States is a challenge. Usually if you do find some cans, the owner will not ship them. Here's a site showing how to make some full-sized cans. It's a lot of work. http://www.bcarn.net/6m-project-duplexer.htm Chuck WB2EDV - Original Message - From: dave_g7uzn dave_g7uzn@ To: Repeater-Builder@yahoogroups.com Sent: Sunday, December 24, 2006 5:49 AM Subject: [Repeater-Builder] 6M cans still wanted in UK Come on lads there MUST be someone with a set of 6M cans willing to send them to London? I had a word with Santa but his sleigh is full! Have a great ChristmasCheers Dave UZN Yahoo! Groups Links Yahoo! Groups Links __ Advertisement: Fresh jobs daily. Stop waiting for the newspaper. Search now! www.seek.com.au http://a.ninemsn.com.au/b.aspx?URL=http%3A%2F%2Fninemsn%2Eseek% 2Ecom%2Eau_t=757263760_r=Hotmail_EndText_Dec06_m=EXT
Re: [Repeater-Builder] t800 manuals
I am seeking a manual, print, or actual unit.. a TS0089 Speaker and channel switch assembly for a 800 series repeater/base station. Help! Lance, N2HBA - Original Message - From: vince To: Repeater-Builder@yahoogroups.com Sent: Thursday, November 23, 2006 12:38 PM Subject: [Repeater-Builder] t800 manuals hi here you are let me know if this are any good for you all i have more tate manuals just email me and if anyone as any thing of intrest to me let me now, by the way i allso have cleartone ch650 /cm7000/7000a4 and rare ex met manuals ok glad to be of help 73s
Re: [Repeater-Builder] t800 manuals
I am trying to either buy, or build one of the channel change assemblies. My unit has an internal prom, but I need to be able to change channel from the front panel. lance - Original Message - From: vincent barnett To: Repeater-Builder@yahoogroups.com Sent: Friday, November 24, 2006 12:46 PM Subject: Re: [Repeater-Builder] t800 manuals hi all this does is hold the channals up to 99.do u still have the eprom in this ?i dont have a manual for this ,sorry but will check later but as i said i dont think i do ,.. what moduals do u have ??are thayt855-20?t856-20 ???if u like any info on programming this let me know . Captainlance [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I am seeking a manual, print, or actual unit.. a TS0089 Speaker and channel switch assembly for a 800 series repeater/base station. Help! Lance, N2HBA - Original Message - From: vince To: Repeater-Builder@yahoogroups.com Sent: Thursday, November 23, 2006 12:38 PM Subject: [Repeater-Builder] t800 manuals hi here you are let me know if this are any good for you all i have more tate manuals just email me and if anyone as any thing of intrest to me let me now, by the way i allso have cleartone ch650 /cm7000/7000a4 and rare ex met manuals ok glad to be of help 73s -- Yahoo! Cars NEW - sell your car and browse thousands of new and used cars online search now --
[Repeater-Builder] WANTED to Purchase
SEEKING ; MOTOROLA DPL CODE PLUGS, TRN6005 CODE 023 , NEED FOUR OF THEM. MOTOROLA CODED SQUELCH PLUG IN CARDS FOR SPECTRA TAC, TRN6082, FOR DPL LANCE ALFIERI N2HBA [EMAIL PROTECTED] THANKS!
Re: [Repeater-Builder] back-up battery charging
Hello, I have several of these Micor repeaters with the TPN1105/6 battery charger supplies running and have the solution to your problem. First, the factory set the charge voltage at 14.25 volts since as standard equipment they supplied NICAD batteries for backup. Naturally, this is way to high for lead/acid. SO, all you need to do is open up the large steel plate on the backside of the power supply and locate the Voltage adjust pot on the large PC board, I thik it is R1091... then, without any batteries on line, adjust to 13.2 volts. from the 14.25. Hook your batteries back up and you are good to go!. The slide switch on the PS should be left in FLOAT position, if switched to EQUALIZE it will add +1 Volt making 14.2, this is to allow for quicker recharge after a battery power event, and should be reset after 24 hours to float. Hope this all helps you. Lance N2HBA - Original Message - From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: Repeater-Builder@yahoogroups.com Sent: Tuesday, April 18, 2006 10:16 AM Subject: RE: [Repeater-Builder] back-up battery charging If the Micor Power Supplies are either TPN1105A or TPN1106A yes, the outputs are adjustable - If not those model numbers, no, they can't be adjusted for specific battery charging. BTW, there are seven specific Micor Power Supplies by model number. The two mentioned above, TPN1151A, TPN1152A, TPN1110A, TPN1110B and the 12 VDC only version (I don't have the model number handy.) Hope this helps, Neil - WA6KLA Original Message From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: Repeater-Builder@yahoogroups.com Subject: RE: [Repeater-Builder] back-up battery charging Date: Mon, 17 Apr 2006 22:51:56 -0400 I am now in charge of some club repeater sites which use the standard Micor power supply. These have back-up batteries on them which are being boiled dry by the 14.9V the power supply delivers,these supplies are not the battery back-up versions. I am looking for a good solution to solve this problem,maybe someone else has been there,done that??? Are there adjustments to set the voltage on these beasts? I thought about a relay,some big diodes,but it looks ugly... 73,Lee Yahoo! Groups Links Yahoo! Groups Links * To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/Repeater-Builder/ * To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] * Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
Re: [Repeater-Builder] back-up battery charging
Yes, the battery charge units have a big cast aluminum heat sink on the chassis. - Original Message - From: Lee Williams [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: Repeater-Builder@yahoogroups.com Sent: Tuesday, April 18, 2006 5:05 PM Subject: Re: [Repeater-Builder] back-up battery charging I will have to check the p/n,but dont think they have the battery option. Is there any obvious difference in the appearance of the battery specific units? I will also look for the pot to turn these babys down, getting tired of cooking batteriesthanks to all,73,Lee [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: If the Micor Power Supplies are either TPN1105A or TPN1106A yes, the outputs are adjustable - If not those model numbers, no, they can't be adjusted for specific battery charging. BTW, there are seven specific Micor Power Supplies by model number. The two mentioned above, TPN1151A, TPN1152A, TPN1110A, TPN1110B and the 12 VDC only version (I don't have the model number handy.) Hope this helps, Neil - WA6KLA Yahoo! Groups Links Yahoo! Groups Links * To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/Repeater-Builder/ * To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] * Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
[Repeater-Builder] Power Supply help needed
I am looking for information on the Micor station " battery charger" power supply, TPN1106A. Thisunit has a large cast aluminum heatsink on the rear side of it, and a TLN5298 stamped on the chassis as well.This unit provides charging for stand by batteries as well as powering the station. No manual that I have found has any info on these supplies. For example, where does the battery hook up? Across the output? Anyone have a print or any info?\ Lance Alfieri N2HBA YAHOO! GROUPS LINKS Visit your group "Repeater-Builder" on the web. To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to the Yahoo! Terms of Service.
Re: [Repeater-Builder] deviation meter info needed
Hi, I have one of these meters too, Think I have a book as well. I'll look tonight. Lance N2HBA - Original Message - From: Mike Perryman [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: Repeater-Builder@yahoogroups.com Sent: Thursday, March 16, 2006 12:04 PM Subject: [Repeater-Builder] deviation meter info needed Hi folks, I have an interesting beastie here that I am trying to locate information on. A user manual would be really nice!! It is a Solid State Deviation Meter made by Edison Electronics for Motorola.. model S-1323A. I would like to get some use of it if possible, and any info would be great!! TIA, 73 Mike Perryman www.k5jmp.us Yahoo! Groups Links Yahoo! Groups Links * To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/Repeater-Builder/ * To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] * Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
Re: [Repeater-Builder] new to Micor
The backplane needs jumpers 1,4,5 only.. remove all others. I can email you the complete conversion process that I use, or fax it to you. Here is a good start on things. I've done about 15 of them so far with success.if you plan to use a controller, then the only card you will need is the station control card, with the correct jumper arrangement. it is normal to lose rx audio with the wireline driver card out, but a jumper between pins 6 and 14 of J2, the long strip of exposed pins on the lower part of the backplanewill return your audio. The station card needs JU2 thru 9 in, and JU10 out. You will need to add an IRC510 mosfet to J5, the row of pins on the upper part of the backplane, to switch pins 19 and 20 together on transmit, getting the voltage frompin 25 of the same J5. lance N2HBA - Original Message - From: andy thrasher To: Repeater-Builder@yahoogroups.com Sent: Wednesday, March 08, 2006 6:20 PM Subject: [Repeater-Builder] new to Micor Hello All I have a UHF Micor RT station that was a surplus 460 police repeater, single reciever, 75 watt PA. I am almost sure it was setup for DC control. Here is my generic questains. I have built quite a few repeaters but never a Micor. Of course I need to make sure the station will operate as-is before I convert it to Amateur use. I would like some suggestions for like backplane jumper placement, what stock cards to use, or just maybe some sort of logical plan of attack. For now, I do not have the tone remote, and I have the station control module, ( with all switches in defeat mode, and the 4-wire line driver cards installed. The most I am getting is weak audio that I cannot squelch from the reciever controls, but only with the line driver card installed. (I have a generic Moto speaker hooked to the pins on the backplane) If I install the squelch gate card all audio goes away, and I dont seem to get any TX from the N/C switch on the station control card throuh the wattmeter. I do have all the manuals, and I do have a good service monitor and test gear. The goal is to verify proper stock operation, then do the mods for a ham repeater. I just have zero experiance with the Micor and need a plan Thanks Andy T. KC8EVM Yahoo! MailBring photos to life! New PhotoMail makes sharing a breeze. YAHOO! GROUPS LINKS Visit your group "Repeater-Builder" on the web. To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to the Yahoo! Terms of Service.
Re: [Repeater-Builder] UHF MIcor P.A. Woes.
The TLE1713 PA takes 1.4 watts input to make 92 watts output, before the circulator, and about 75 watts after the circulator. The control wire takes voltage, not a ground to make the amp work. Typically, about 6 volts for full P.O. lance N2HBA - Original Message - From: John Everson [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: Repeater-Builder@yahoogroups.com Sent: Sunday, February 19, 2006 1:38 PM Subject: [Repeater-Builder] UHF MIcor P.A. Woes. Hello to the group. My friend and I have a 75 Micor station on UHF that I was trying to resurrect to donate to a young local ham that has a UHF machine that needs to be replaced. The station in question was already in the ham bands, 444.xxx tx, 449.xxx rx. The previous owner had trouble with the PA dying all of the time, so he said, get rid of it, I've had it with this thing. Well, I began to check this thing out and confirmed that the output was non-existent. I threw another PA in and still no output. So, I checked and tuned the circulator, checked and replaced the tripler/LLA, and now I have a clean and healthy 2 watts out of the LLA to the PA. The problem is, out of 5 different spares I have here, I get nothing, no go, no outty putty. I have checked the power control logic wire and the voltage seems to swing as it should during adjustment of the pot and changes during tx. Voltage to the main PA feed is a solid 14.3 volts on tx. My question is: How much power will the Micor PA take for input if I want to bench test these things? Can I just ground the PA control wire during testing? What is the reccomended bench test arrangement. I am having a bit of trouble believing that out of 5 spares, all are bad. I know that one was soft, one other was intermittent, but I thought that I had three solid spares. Maybe Not! Maybe my coffee hasn't kicked in and made the brain get going yet. Thanks in advance.John Yahoo! Groups Links Yahoo! Groups Links * To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/Repeater-Builder/ * To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] * Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
Re: [Repeater-Builder] 900 mhz question
I've done it, Lance N2HBA... contact me if you wish, I live on Long Island, NY 516 935 6249 if you wish to call. [EMAIL PROTECTED] email - Original Message - From: Bill Wilson [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: Repeater-Builder@yahoogroups.com Sent: Monday, February 13, 2006 8:45 PM Subject: [Repeater-Builder] 900 mhz question Looking for info on building a 900 mhz ham repeater. Bill N2XKO Yahoo! Groups Links Yahoo! Groups Links * To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/Repeater-Builder/ * To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] * Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
Re: [Repeater-Builder] LDG-8 voter
Hi, We have 3 of these online, each channel requires a COR input so that the voter knows that the channel is active. lance N2HBA - Original Message - From: Erik Finskas [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: Repeater-Builder@yahoogroups.com Sent: Friday, February 03, 2006 7:48 AM Subject: [Repeater-Builder] LDG-8 voter Hello group. I'm looking at a LDG RVS-8 voter, and I'm curious about the COR inputs. In the current linking system there is no COR signal provided, just unsquelched audio. Does the RVS require the COR signal to be connected, or would it work so that all COR inputs are tied high, so it would look like there are 8 receivers on all the time, between which the voter selects? The output of the voter would be fed to the repeater, which has a squelch circuitry to detect COR state and a PL decoder. .. Erik OH2LAK Yahoo! Groups Links Yahoo! Groups Links * To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/Repeater-Builder/ * To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] * Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
[Repeater-Builder] Power transistors
Anyone know what the interchange is for M9995 power transistors used in Micor uhf PAs like the TLE1713? Thanks... lance N2HBA YAHOO! GROUPS LINKS Visit your group "Repeater-Builder" on the web. To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to the Yahoo! Terms of Service.
Re: [Repeater-Builder] Need VHF Mitrek and Service Manual
I have several 110 watt VHF Mitrek mobiles, complete with accessories, in exceptionally clean condition. $ 200.00 each, with PL. buy 2, price is $350.00 lance N2HBA - Original Message - From: Alexander N Tubonjic [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: Repeater-Builder@yahoogroups.com Sent: Sunday, January 08, 2006 7:57 PM Subject: [Repeater-Builder] Need VHF Mitrek and Service Manual Hello All, I am in need of one, possibly two VHF Mitreks. Would like to get the 110 watt versions but could make do with the 45 watt versions. I need power cords to go with them. One onboard preamp would be nice as would one Pl decode board, would prefer to have atleast a set of channel elements in each radio. I would also like to get a Service manual for a VHF Mitrek. If anyone has some spare Mitreks or Mitrek Parts laying around let me know what you have and your asking price. Thanks. Alexander Yahoo! Groups Links Yahoo! Groups Links * To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/Repeater-Builder/ * To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] * Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
[Repeater-Builder] Micor Board wanted
Wanted for a 10Meter project, Motorola Micor exciter circuit board for base station Part # TLB8172 or TLB8272 range is 30-36 Mhz. Lance, N2HBA [EMAIL PROTECTED] YAHOO! GROUPS LINKS Visit your group "Repeater-Builder" on the web. To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to the Yahoo! Terms of Service.
Re: [Repeater-Builder] WTB: Moto 192.8 Hz PL reed
HI Mark, What type of reed do you need, either a # or description, or radio model will help. I probably have them. Lance.N2HBA - Original Message - From: Mark Cobbeldick [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: Repeater-Builder@yahoogroups.com Sent: Wednesday, December 28, 2005 8:41 AM Subject: [Repeater-Builder] WTB: Moto 192.8 Hz PL reed I am hoping to find someone with a 192.8 Hz reed for a 70's vintage Moto radio. I don't usually work with Moto gear, but this deal was way too good to pass on. Any assistance/suggestions/advice will be greatly appreciated from folks more familiar with this equipment. Please reply off-list: kb4cvn [at] yahoo [.com] Thank you in advance, Mark C. KB4CVN Monroe, VA Yahoo! Groups Links Yahoo! Groups Links * To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/Repeater-Builder/ * To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] * Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
[Repeater-Builder] WANTED
I am looking for several Motorola TLN8381 PL reeds, 136.5 Hz. for a voter project... Please contact me if you have them to sell or trade. Lance N2HBA [EMAIL PROTECTED] YAHOO! GROUPS LINKS Visit your group "Repeater-Builder" on the web. To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to the Yahoo! Terms of Service.
Re: [Repeater-Builder] shipping suggestion
OKI Oregon..guess it's a bit far to drive to pick them up( NYC)can you wrap the doors together and cover with cardboard? if so, how much for them, and I can give you our FedEx # for shipping, so you won't have to try to figure the freight costs out. lance - Original Message - From: Neil McKie [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: Repeater-Builder@yahoogroups.com Sent: Tuesday, December 06, 2005 10:11 PM Subject: Re: [Repeater-Builder] shipping suggestion I have the 41 cabinets and the doors ... how many of which do you want? Neil - WA6KLA Captainlance wrote: Hello. I am looking for Motorola Micor base/repeater cabinet doors, both the 41 and 46 inch ones... anyone have some to sell? Also looking for 40-50 Micor base power amp, TLB1414, UHF amps TLE1713 Thanks lance N2HBA - Original Message - From: Tony Faiola [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: Repeater-Builder@yahoogroups.com Cc: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Tuesday, December 06, 2005 10:35 AM Subject: Re: [Repeater-Builder] shipping suggestion Hello: If you are close to the DC area, I have a few cabinets here FREE. There is a six foot Motorola, a few 4 ft micor slim cabinets and a earlier compa type cabinet. These cabinet with repeaters in them (UHF) are destined for the dump in the next few months. They (or one of them) are yours for the pick up. Ciao, Tony, Silver Spring, MD K3WX Ted Bleiman K9MDM - MDM Radio wrote: mike; if you don't need the cabinet have them repack the frame and p/a and p/s and stuph seperately and ship it ups. or fedex ground . i'm sure you can find a cabinet closer than knoxville in the dc area. if its a compa cabinet under 4ft and 12 inches deep. we have shipped them less power supply wrapped in heavy cardboard and ship p/s seperately. UPS limit is 130 inches length Plus girth over all and 150 lbs. you may have to pay the guy tro pack it but it'll still be cheaper than $500. you can drive it for $150 gas tolls and a nite in a days inn. fedex ground has high weight and size limits . but you gotta call them for details. even if the take the chassis'ses to UPS store and have them pack it it'll still be cheaper than $500. what you need is a trucker /ham who makes that run all the time. good luck and happy holidays...mdm ted a nice christmas road trip to knoxville ! sounds good to me. very little traffic christmas day i've found. Mike Perryman K5JMP [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Yep, That is a fact... I am trying to get a Micor in the cabinet shipped from just Northwest of Knoxville, TN. Shipping for a palletized cabinet was just over 500 bucks to VA I don't suppose anyone would be making that trek in the near future??? Knoxville to DC just thought I would ask... mike -Original Message- From: Repeater-Builder@yahoogroups.com [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Behalf Of Paul Finch Sent: Monday, December 05, 2005 3:44 PM To: Repeater-Builder@yahoogroups.com Subject: RE: [Repeater-Builder] Low band station listed on EBAY Will, Thanks, still way too far away, the shipping would be terrible! Paul -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] .com [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Behalf Of [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Monday, December 05, 2005 2:12 PM To: Repeater-Builder@yahoogroups.com Subject: Re: [Repeater-Builder] Low band station listed on EBAY Northwest Florida. Will KC4YBZ Ted Bleiman K9MDM MDM Radio Ltd - 1629-B N. 31 st Ave Melrose Park, IL 60160 708.681.0300 fax 708.681.9800 web http://www.mdmradio.com - Check it now!! Yahoo! DSL http://pa.yahoo.com/*http://us.rd.yahoo.com/evt=37474/*http://promo.yahoo.com/broadband/ Something to write home about. Just $16.99/mo. or less YAHOO! GROUPS LINKS * Visit your group Repeater-Builder http://groups.yahoo.com/group/Repeater-Builder on the web. * To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] * Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to the Yahoo! Terms of Service http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/. Yahoo! Groups Links Yahoo! Groups Links Yahoo! Groups Links Yahoo! Groups Links * To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/Repeater-Builder/ * To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] * Your use
Re: [Repeater-Builder] shipping suggestion
Hello. I am looking for Motorola Micor base/repeater cabinet doors, both the 41 and 46 inch ones... anyone have some to sell? Also looking for 40-50 Micor base power amp, TLB1414, UHF amps TLE1713 Thanks lance N2HBA - Original Message - From: Tony Faiola [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: Repeater-Builder@yahoogroups.com Cc: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Tuesday, December 06, 2005 10:35 AM Subject: Re: [Repeater-Builder] shipping suggestion Hello: If you are close to the DC area, I have a few cabinets here FREE. There is a six foot Motorola, a few 4 ft micor slim cabinets and a earlier compa type cabinet. These cabinet with repeaters in them (UHF) are destined for the dump in the next few months. They (or one of them) are yours for the pick up. Ciao, Tony, Silver Spring, MD K3WX Ted Bleiman K9MDM - MDM Radio wrote: mike; if you don't need the cabinet have them repack the frame and p/a and p/s and stuph seperately and ship it ups. or fedex ground . i'm sure you can find a cabinet closer than knoxville in the dc area. if its a compa cabinet under 4ft and 12 inches deep. we have shipped them less power supply wrapped in heavy cardboard and ship p/s seperately. UPS limit is 130 inches length Plus girth over all and 150 lbs. you may have to pay the guy tro pack it but it'll still be cheaper than $500. you can drive it for $150 gas tolls and a nite in a days inn. fedex ground has high weight and size limits . but you gotta call them for details. even if the take the chassis'ses to UPS store and have them pack it it'll still be cheaper than $500. what you need is a trucker /ham who makes that run all the time. good luck and happy holidays...mdm ted a nice christmas road trip to knoxville ! sounds good to me. very little traffic christmas day i've found. Mike Perryman K5JMP [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Yep, That is a fact... I am trying to get a Micor in the cabinet shipped from just Northwest of Knoxville, TN. Shipping for a palletized cabinet was just over 500 bucks to VA I don't suppose anyone would be making that trek in the near future??? Knoxville to DC just thought I would ask... mike -Original Message- From: Repeater-Builder@yahoogroups.com [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Behalf Of Paul Finch Sent: Monday, December 05, 2005 3:44 PM To: Repeater-Builder@yahoogroups.com Subject: RE: [Repeater-Builder] Low band station listed on EBAY Will, Thanks, still way too far away, the shipping would be terrible! Paul -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] .com [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Behalf Of [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Monday, December 05, 2005 2:12 PM To: Repeater-Builder@yahoogroups.com Subject: Re: [Repeater-Builder] Low band station listed on EBAY Northwest Florida. Will KC4YBZ Ted Bleiman K9MDM MDM Radio Ltd - 1629-B N. 31 st Ave Melrose Park, IL 60160 708.681.0300 fax 708.681.9800 web http://www.mdmradio.com - Check it now!! Yahoo! DSL http://pa.yahoo.com/*http://us.rd.yahoo.com/evt=37474/*http://promo.yahoo.com/broadband/ Something to write home about. Just $16.99/mo. or less YAHOO! GROUPS LINKS * Visit your group Repeater-Builder http://groups.yahoo.com/group/Repeater-Builder on the web. * To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] * Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to the Yahoo! Terms of Service http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/. Yahoo! Groups Links Yahoo! Groups Links * To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/Repeater-Builder/ * To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] * Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
[Repeater-Builder] REPEATER ITEMS WANTED TO BUY
Motorola cabinet doors, 41 and 46 inch tall, fit Micor era base/repeaters. TLB1414 40-50 mhz. continuous duty PA for Micor base TLE1413 UHF PA's, 450-470 mjhz. TLB 1412 30-36 mhz Continuous duty PA, Micor base. Will pay fair price and shipping. Lance N2HBA [EMAIL PROTECTED] YAHOO! GROUPS LINKS Visit your group "Repeater-Builder" on the web. To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to the Yahoo! Terms of Service.
Re: [Repeater-Builder] shipping suggestion
Long Island, New York. - Original Message - From: Maire-Radios [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: Repeater-Builder@yahoogroups.com Sent: Tuesday, December 06, 2005 9:14 PM Subject: Re: [Repeater-Builder] shipping suggestion and where are you at? - Original Message - From: Captainlance [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: Repeater-Builder@yahoogroups.com Sent: Tuesday, December 06, 2005 9:04 PM Subject: Re: [Repeater-Builder] shipping suggestion Hello. I am looking for Motorola Micor base/repeater cabinet doors, both the 41 and 46 inch ones... anyone have some to sell? Also looking for 40-50 Micor base power amp, TLB1414, UHF amps TLE1713 Thanks lance N2HBA - Original Message - From: Tony Faiola [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: Repeater-Builder@yahoogroups.com Cc: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Tuesday, December 06, 2005 10:35 AM Subject: Re: [Repeater-Builder] shipping suggestion Hello: If you are close to the DC area, I have a few cabinets here FREE. There is a six foot Motorola, a few 4 ft micor slim cabinets and a earlier compa type cabinet. These cabinet with repeaters in them (UHF) are destined for the dump in the next few months. They (or one of them) are yours for the pick up. Ciao, Tony, Silver Spring, MD K3WX Ted Bleiman K9MDM - MDM Radio wrote: mike; if you don't need the cabinet have them repack the frame and p/a and p/s and stuph seperately and ship it ups. or fedex ground . i'm sure you can find a cabinet closer than knoxville in the dc area. if its a compa cabinet under 4ft and 12 inches deep. we have shipped them less power supply wrapped in heavy cardboard and ship p/s seperately. UPS limit is 130 inches length Plus girth over all and 150 lbs. you may have to pay the guy tro pack it but it'll still be cheaper than $500. you can drive it for $150 gas tolls and a nite in a days inn. fedex ground has high weight and size limits . but you gotta call them for details. even if the take the chassis'ses to UPS store and have them pack it it'll still be cheaper than $500. what you need is a trucker /ham who makes that run all the time. good luck and happy holidays...mdm ted a nice christmas road trip to knoxville ! sounds good to me. very little traffic christmas day i've found. Mike Perryman K5JMP [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Yep, That is a fact... I am trying to get a Micor in the cabinet shipped from just Northwest of Knoxville, TN. Shipping for a palletized cabinet was just over 500 bucks to VA I don't suppose anyone would be making that trek in the near future??? Knoxville to DC just thought I would ask... mike -Original Message- From: Repeater-Builder@yahoogroups.com [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Behalf Of Paul Finch Sent: Monday, December 05, 2005 3:44 PM To: Repeater-Builder@yahoogroups.com Subject: RE: [Repeater-Builder] Low band station listed on EBAY Will, Thanks, still way too far away, the shipping would be terrible! Paul -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] .com [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Behalf Of [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Monday, December 05, 2005 2:12 PM To: Repeater-Builder@yahoogroups.com Subject: Re: [Repeater-Builder] Low band station listed on EBAY Northwest Florida. Will KC4YBZ Ted Bleiman K9MDM MDM Radio Ltd - 1629-B N. 31 st Ave Melrose Park, IL 60160 708.681.0300 fax 708.681.9800 web http://www.mdmradio.com - Check it now!! Yahoo! DSL http://pa.yahoo.com/*http://us.rd.yahoo.com/evt=37474/*http://promo.yahoo.com/broadband/ Something to write home about. Just $16.99/mo. or less YAHOO! GROUPS LINKS * Visit your group Repeater-Builder http://groups.yahoo.com/group/Repeater-Builder on the web. * To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] * Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to the Yahoo! Terms of Service http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/. Yahoo! Groups Links Yahoo! Groups Links Yahoo! Groups Links Yahoo! Groups Links * To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/Repeater-Builder/ * To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] * Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
Re: [Repeater-Builder] shipping suggestion
I can use 4 doors, where are you located..? Lance - Original Message - From: Neil McKie [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: Repeater-Builder@yahoogroups.com Sent: Tuesday, December 06, 2005 10:11 PM Subject: Re: [Repeater-Builder] shipping suggestion I have the 41 cabinets and the doors ... how many of which do you want? Neil - WA6KLA Captainlance wrote: Hello. I am looking for Motorola Micor base/repeater cabinet doors, both the 41 and 46 inch ones... anyone have some to sell? Also looking for 40-50 Micor base power amp, TLB1414, UHF amps TLE1713 Thanks lance N2HBA - Original Message - From: Tony Faiola [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: Repeater-Builder@yahoogroups.com Cc: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Tuesday, December 06, 2005 10:35 AM Subject: Re: [Repeater-Builder] shipping suggestion Hello: If you are close to the DC area, I have a few cabinets here FREE. There is a six foot Motorola, a few 4 ft micor slim cabinets and a earlier compa type cabinet. These cabinet with repeaters in them (UHF) are destined for the dump in the next few months. They (or one of them) are yours for the pick up. Ciao, Tony, Silver Spring, MD K3WX Ted Bleiman K9MDM - MDM Radio wrote: mike; if you don't need the cabinet have them repack the frame and p/a and p/s and stuph seperately and ship it ups. or fedex ground . i'm sure you can find a cabinet closer than knoxville in the dc area. if its a compa cabinet under 4ft and 12 inches deep. we have shipped them less power supply wrapped in heavy cardboard and ship p/s seperately. UPS limit is 130 inches length Plus girth over all and 150 lbs. you may have to pay the guy tro pack it but it'll still be cheaper than $500. you can drive it for $150 gas tolls and a nite in a days inn. fedex ground has high weight and size limits . but you gotta call them for details. even if the take the chassis'ses to UPS store and have them pack it it'll still be cheaper than $500. what you need is a trucker /ham who makes that run all the time. good luck and happy holidays...mdm ted a nice christmas road trip to knoxville ! sounds good to me. very little traffic christmas day i've found. Mike Perryman K5JMP [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Yep, That is a fact... I am trying to get a Micor in the cabinet shipped from just Northwest of Knoxville, TN. Shipping for a palletized cabinet was just over 500 bucks to VA I don't suppose anyone would be making that trek in the near future??? Knoxville to DC just thought I would ask... mike -Original Message- From: Repeater-Builder@yahoogroups.com [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Behalf Of Paul Finch Sent: Monday, December 05, 2005 3:44 PM To: Repeater-Builder@yahoogroups.com Subject: RE: [Repeater-Builder] Low band station listed on EBAY Will, Thanks, still way too far away, the shipping would be terrible! Paul -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] .com [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Behalf Of [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Monday, December 05, 2005 2:12 PM To: Repeater-Builder@yahoogroups.com Subject: Re: [Repeater-Builder] Low band station listed on EBAY Northwest Florida. Will KC4YBZ Ted Bleiman K9MDM MDM Radio Ltd - 1629-B N. 31 st Ave Melrose Park, IL 60160 708.681.0300 fax 708.681.9800 web http://www.mdmradio.com - Check it now!! Yahoo! DSL http://pa.yahoo.com/*http://us.rd.yahoo.com/evt=37474/*http://promo.yahoo.com/broadband/ Something to write home about. Just $16.99/mo. or less YAHOO! GROUPS LINKS * Visit your group Repeater-Builder http://groups.yahoo.com/group/Repeater-Builder on the web. * To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] * Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to the Yahoo! Terms of Service http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/. Yahoo! Groups Links Yahoo! Groups Links Yahoo! Groups Links Yahoo! Groups Links * To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/Repeater-Builder/ * To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] * Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
Re: [Repeater-Builder] MOTOROLA PARTS SUPPLY
I have the 540S filter, 5kc. the 540W is 15kc... lance N2HBA - Original Message - From: us_communications1 [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: Repeater-Builder@yahoogroups.com Sent: Monday, December 05, 2005 4:03 PM Subject: [Repeater-Builder] MOTOROLA PARTS SUPPLY I need a tu-540W for a mototola receiver, does anyone know where i may find one? Yahoo! Groups Links Yahoo! Groups Links * To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/Repeater-Builder/ * To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] * Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
Re: [Repeater-Builder] Channel Element
yes, all the spectra tac is, is just a Micor receiver in a 19 rack mount case with audio processing cards. lance N2HBA - Original Message - From: Don [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: Repeater-Builder@yahoogroups.com Sent: Friday, August 26, 2005 2:56 AM Subject: [Repeater-Builder] Channel Element Can anyone Please tell me if a Motorola VHF Spectra Tac receiver, uses the same Channel Element as the Motorola VHF Micor Mobile, I think it is the Same Receiver? Thanks Don KA9QJG Yahoo! Groups Links Yahoo! Groups Links * To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/Repeater-Builder/ * To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] * Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
Re: [Repeater-Builder] 220 Repeater Stuff
I have a TPL 100 W. UHF repeater amp, exc. condition for trade if you are interested.it's the type with the large heatsink attached, about 6or so inches high, .. lance, N2HBA ( NY) - Original Message - From: Jeff DePolo WN3A [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: Repeater-Builder@yahoogroups.com Sent: Saturday, August 20, 2005 9:42 AM Subject: RE: [Repeater-Builder] 220 Repeater Stuff I have a brand new TPL 100 watt continuous duty RXR series 220 amp available. I think it was around $850 or $900 new. I'd trade for a UHF amp of comparable quality and condition, 100 watts or more. I think I have a 4-cavity Wacom duplexer for 220 in storage too but I'd have to go digging to be sure. --- Jeff Jeff DePolo WN3A - [EMAIL PROTECTED] Broadcast and Communications Consultant -Original Message- From: Repeater-Builder@yahoogroups.com [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Andrew Sent: Friday, August 19, 2005 3:41 PM To: Repeater-Builder@yahoogroups.com Subject: [Repeater-Builder] 220 Repeater Stuff Guys, If anyone has any 220 repeater equipment they would like to get rid of (sell/working) such as amplifiers, RX or TX stuff and things of that nature please contact me direct off list. I am in need of 220 gear for a repeater project. Thanks in advance. My email is kc2gow at yahoo dot com Andy KC2GOW Yahoo! Groups Links -- No virus found in this incoming message. Checked by AVG Anti-Virus. Version: 7.0.338 / Virus Database: 267.10.11/74 - Release Date: 8/17/2005 -- No virus found in this outgoing message. Checked by AVG Anti-Virus. Version: 7.0.338 / Virus Database: 267.10.11/74 - Release Date: 8/17/2005 Yahoo! Groups Links Yahoo! Groups Links * To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/Repeater-Builder/ * To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] * Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
[Repeater-Builder] Manual/Help needed
I need a manual for a S1338 series Motorola Station Monitor.. Micor era unit. it's a monitor receiver with a modulation scope, etc. Used mainly for public safety systems in the 70's and 80's. Any help out there? original part # was 68-81069A29 Thanks, Lance N2HBA YAHOO! GROUPS LINKS Visit your group "Repeater-Builder" on the web. To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to the Yahoo! Terms of Service.
