If you found any US suppliers and nobody has responded to you privately
then I'm happy to help out; otherwise I'm afraid I can't be of much use.
On Sat, 27 Nov 2021 at 12:19, Aleš Keprt wrote:
> Dear Sam Coupé friends,
>
> my Sam floppy drive does not work and I thought it was not
Dear Sam Coupé friends,
my Sam floppy drive does not work and I thought it was not possible to
repair it. I have also a few PC floppy drives, but I don't have the adapter
board, so I would like to repair the original Citizen drive. I received
information that it is actually quite easy to repair
On Mon, 23 May 2016, at 09:08 PM, Colin Piggot wrote:
> As they are standard 34-pin floppy devices they do still need a
> controller board to work with the SAM Coupe.
>
> I’ve build a few customised versions of my disk drive controller board
> with longer cables to accommodate th
As they are standard 34-pin floppy devices they do still need a controller
board to work with the SAM Coupe.
I’ve build a few customised versions of my disk drive controller board with
longer cables to accommodate these in the past for people. There’s photos of
one in the ‘SAM Projects
You could probably also consider switching to a HxC Floppy emulator (that has
been shown to work with the Sam Coupe), or the cheaper Gotek drive (or clone
such as the flopper interface - http://www.sellmyretro.com/offer/details/10973
Just a different way of accessing software...
Rich
2016 13:53
To: sam-users@nvg.ntnu.no
Subject: Re: R: Floppy disk drive error
if the disk drive is older - like 10 years or more - could be the belt drive
needs replacing as this is the most
common fault with older SAM Coupe disk drives - you can get these from Colin
Pigot (drive belts and a
2016 13:53
To: sam-users@nvg.ntnu.no
Subject: Re: R: Floppy disk drive error
if the disk drive is older - like 10 years or more - could be the belt drive
needs replacing as this is the most
common fault with older SAM Coupe disk drives - you can get these from Colin
Pigot (drive belts and a
Behalf Of Simone Voltolini
Sent: 23 May 2016 14:11
To: sam-users@nvg.ntnu.no
Subject: R: R: Floppy disk drive error
Yes, I’ve buyed two for mine too from Colin and all works well.
Very professional guy, a MUST in Sam Coupè world ;)
[mailto:owner-sam-us...@nvg.ntnu.no] Per conto
di Thomas Seifert
Inviato: lunedì 23 maggio 2016 14:53
A: sam-users@nvg.ntnu.no
Oggetto: Re: R: Floppy disk drive error
if the disk drive is older - like 10 years or more - could be the belt drive
needs replacing as this is the most
common fault
Benvenuto Paolo,
On 23 May 2016 at 08:53, Paolo Borzini <paolo.borz...@gmail.com> wrote:
> Hello,
> I've a problem with the floppy drive of my sam coupe.
> Typing BOOT or some other command for disk gives me this error "55 Missing
> disk, 0: 1".
> But on manual
Is it the original Citizen drive? If so, I wouldn´t be surprised at all by a
worn out/torn belt.
Stefan
From: owner-sam-us...@nvg.ntnu.no [mailto:owner-sam-us...@nvg.ntnu.no] On
Behalf Of david brant
Sent: Monday, May 23, 2016 12:34 PM
To: sam-users@nvg.ntnu.no
Subject: Re: Floppy disk drive
7:53, Paolo Borzini wrote:
>>> Hello,
>>> I've a problem with the floppy drive of my sam coupe.
>>> Typing BOOT or some other command for disk gives me this error "55 Missing
>>> disk, 0: 1".
>>> But on manual the errors list ranging from 1 to
Yes,
the drive heads are cleaned.
Any other hints?
Paolo
Il 23/05/16 09:32, Rich Mellor ha scritto:
On 23/05/2016 07:53, Paolo Borzini wrote:
Hello,
I've a problem with the floppy drive of my sam coupe.
Typing BOOT or some other command for disk gives me this error "55
Missing disk,
On 23/05/2016 07:53, Paolo Borzini wrote:
Hello,
I've a problem with the floppy drive of my sam coupe.
Typing BOOT or some other command for disk gives me this error "55
Missing disk, 0: 1".
But on manual the errors list ranging from 1 to 54.
I've checked the floppy drive and is well
Hello,
I've a problem with the floppy drive of my sam coupe.
Typing BOOT or some other command for disk gives me this error "55
Missing disk, 0: 1".
But on manual the errors list ranging from 1 to 54.
I've checked the floppy drive and is well connected.
Is there somewhere mor
I'm sure I've got a spare I can donate... I'll have a check and be in
touch!
Si
On 01/06/2013 17:01, Chris Pile wrote:
Hi SAMsters,
A bit of a long shot really, but thought I'd try here!
Does anyone have a spare (working) SAM floppy drive and controller
they'd be prepared to get rid
Blimey, the SAM scene's fast! Floppy drive dilemma is now sorted
thanks to top blokes Colin Piggot and Si Owen - cheers guys! ;)
Chris.
Well, I've got a Kryoflux now, connected to the cheapest standard PC
floppy drive that I could find on eBay, and it's working really well.
The supplied software has a GUI (if you're willing to install Java,
anyway; pleasingly it is OS X v10.8 compatible) and one of the output
options is a raw MFM
with a floppy drive
controller, did anyone try the Kyroflux route?
On Thursday, 28 July 2011, Leszek Chmielewski wrote:
You're welcome, glad to hear you got your data back. Most of
my Sam disks
are unreadable; whether my original Sam was close to the
edge
in the UK for maybe three weeks and having uncovered some old
floppies, and having no access to a PC with a floppy drive controller, did
anyone try the Kyroflux route?
On Thursday, 28 July 2011, Leszek Chmielewski wrote:
You're welcome, glad to hear you got your data back. Most of my Sam
Being back in the UK for maybe three weeks and having uncovered some old
floppies, and having no access to a PC with a floppy drive controller, did
anyone try the Kyroflux route?
On Thursday, 28 July 2011, Leszek Chmielewski wrote:
You're welcome, glad to hear you got your data back. Most
So after a renewed the power supply, I found a problem with floppy drive. There
is a rubber which connects the engine to the centre of the disk to let it spin.
Simply said: The rubber is aged, it needs to be either replaced, or the whole
drive needs to be replaced. But as I can see
be able to get in used, if at all.
Thomas
Von: Aleš Keprt a...@keprt.cz
An: sam-users@nvg.ntnu.no
Gesendet: 18:37 Donnerstag, 19.Januar 2012
Betreff: Floppy drive problem
So after a renewed the power supply, I found a problem with floppy drive.
There is a rubber
There was a hardware fix that with the addition of a small PCB let you
use a standard PC floppy. You may be able to get hold of one of them.
see this article in Format
http://nevilley.no-ip.org/nfy53/sam/f_issue.php?issue=080509
--
nev
On 19/01/12 18:01, Thomas Seifert wrote:
the original
Thomas wrote:
the original MGT SAM Coupe diskdrives are from Citizen, they are indeed a
bit different than PC drives. One possible way is to get a replacement
drivebelt, or buy a replacement diskdrive, both can be ordered from
Quazar: http://www.samcoupe.com/
I don't have any original Citizen
I would rather sell the whole computer than to invest more money to it.
Anyone interested?
(For collectors: I still have also the original cartoon/polystyrene box.
:-))
I do have a plenty of working PC floppy drives at home, but I think it would
be more wise to move to the compact flash
MGT sold an external interface to allow connection of standard floppy drives,
including those used with the Disciple and +D interfaces and pretty much every
other home computer - possibly you could locate one of those? It looks like a
PC drive should attach.
On 19 Jan 2012, at 21:24, Aleš
You're welcome, glad to hear you got your data back. Most of my Sam disks
are unreadable; whether my original Sam was close to the edge of spec or
whether the disks have just degraded over time I'm unsure.
And congrats on the new arrival! Sell the Sam and invest in some
heavy-duty
Geoff, Howard, Leszek, Simon, Nev, Thomas, thanks so much for your help. You
are all so kind to reply so quickly and I'm totally humbled by your expertise.
I tracked down a friend who still has a desktop PC with a built in IDE floppy
drive, and gave it a go with that. Samdisk worked a treat
Subject: RE: Accessing Sam formatted disks through a USB floppy drive
Geoff, Howard, Leszek, Simon, Nev, Thomas, thanks so much for your help. You
are all so kind to reply so quickly and I'm totally humbled by your expertise.
I tracked down a friend who still has a desktop PC with a built in IDE
On 27 July 2011 11:52, Dicky Moore dickymo...@gmail.com wrote:
Geoff, Howard, Leszek, Simon, Nev, Thomas, thanks so much for your help.
You're welcome, glad to hear you got your data back. Most of my Sam disks
are unreadable; whether my original Sam was close to the edge of spec or
whether
pc suite on sam formatted a dsdd disc to 720kb which could be read by
a pc but how you transfer scads or etracker to and from the disc once
the pc could read the file code - maybe sim coupe ram block has
something to do with it?
no one help me to persuade Colin Piggot to try running Edwin Leszek
Thomas Harte tomh.retros...@gmail.com wrote:
my USB floppy drive showed up as a block device and exposed only the
PC-style double density sectors as blocks.
That's just how USB floppy drives are seen by the system, and is the
reason they're so limited. The LBA to CHS mapping is internal
Hey all
Has anyone had any luck in copying Sam-formatted floppy disks to .dsk or
.mgt images using a USB floppy drive?
Samdisk doesn't support USB floppy drives and I'm not sure of any other
software that can do this.
I'm trying to recover all the E-tracker music I created back
Yes and no. Mostly no.
http://webstore.kryoflux.com/catalog/product_info.php?products_id=28
is your best hope, I expect. Most standard USB floppy drives will only read
standard disk formats, which means you won't be able to access the 10th
sector on a Sam disk.
No idea if the software works
Hi Dicky
I remember this question from a few months back, especially because I've run
out of space in my half height PC case too.
The USB floppy drives simply aren't sophisticated enough to read non-standard
disks, and never will be able to either. In order to run SamDisk you need
I had only success using a slim line Parallel port floppy with my olt
Travelmate TM 312T Subnotebook.
2011/7/22 toberm...@waitrose.com
Hi Dicky
I remember this question from a few months back, especially because I've
run out of space in my half height PC case too.
The USB floppy drives
Dicky Moore wrote:
Has anyone had any luck in copying Sam-formatted floppy disks to .dsk or
.mgt images using a USB floppy drive?
Samdisk doesn’t support USB floppy drives and I’m not sure of any other
software that can do this.
I'm afraid there's no way to do it with a standard USB floppy
On 22/07/11 15:38, Dicky Moore wrote:
Hey all
Has anyone had any luck in copying Sam-formatted floppy disks to .dsk or
.mgt images using a USB floppy drive?
Very little hope of doing that.
All the programs I've seen, or written myself, need to access the floppy
disk controller which you
On OS X, which of course has a BSD-derived layer, I wasn't able to get
anything using dd — my USB floppy drive showed up as a block device
and exposed only the PC-style double density sectors as blocks. I was
able successfully to image any disk that didn't use any of its
tenth-per-track sectors
Just as a side issue, with regards to Sim Coupe... (sorry for the
quick change of topic!)
This is probably a daft question, as I think I've read about the issue
elsewhere, so forgive me... but is there no way to read/write to
external USB floppy drives? Just thinking of my own case
The USB Floppys have a extremly cut down controller which is missing ability
for low level access. So the answer is no. My Acer TM312T has a external
parallel port Disc drive, and it can read and write Coupé Discs, only
because the BIOS. It would be possible to make a USB Floppy which can use
SAM
This is becoming more of an issue, with Macs and newer desktops not having a
motherboard floppy controller, and more widespread use of laptops...
Almost all USB floppy drives are usually limited to 720K (9-sector) and 1.44M
(18-sector) formats. They contain their own floppy controller chip
be useful? Just thinking out loud! ;-)
Then again, a completely nutty route... Since the Trinity will very
possibly have FTP at some point, file transfer could be done in a
round about way, by uploading or downloading files lol! So in theory,
if you don't have a handy built-in floppy drive, you
Thanks for that, Simon!
It certainly would be nice to be able to use the external floppy
drives these days, since, as you said, the normal internal kind seem
to be dying out. Though as you said, easier now with cards...
Just to show my ignorance... from what you're implying, can a Trinity
Hi Warren,
The enclosure would still only work if the laptop motherboard had a regular
floppy controller chip, and I'd be surprised if any have included one in the
last 5 years. The actual floppy drives themselves are pretty dumb, so it's all
about what you've got them connected
the job! When I get the chance to test it, I'll post back
and let you know how it worked. :-)
Thanks for all the help!
Quoting Simon Owen simon.o...@simcoupe.org:
Hi Warren,
The enclosure would still only work if the laptop motherboard had a
regular floppy controller chip, and I'd
Simon Owen schrieb:
Leszek Chmielewski wrote:
You coded the fdrawcmd.sys? It should work with onboard floppy
connector under Win2K.
Yes, and yes :-)
I changed the code from example HANDLE h =
CreateFile(.\\fdraw0, GENERIC_READ|GENERIC_WRITE, 0, NULL,
OPEN_EXISTING, 0, NULL
There are some USB to SCSI adaptors, which OS X fully supports, and
SCSI floppy drives, but overwhelmingly they are of the LS-120 type,
i.e. 100+mb 3.5 drives that are backwards compatible with old
floppies. So probably they'd have PC geometry hard coded at a
different place.
What sort
Activision, IIRC, owns the Infocom games.
-Original Message-
From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On
Behalf Of [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Tuesday, June 17, 2008 12:17 AM
To: sam-users@nvg.ntnu.no; Steve Parry-Thomas
Subject: RE: Grabbing floppy images
Quoting Steve Parry
Thomas Harte wrote:
Although I'm aware that my USB drive may be hard coded somehow not to
support anything other than the PC layout
That's pretty much it I'm afraid! USB floppy drives are seen as simple
block devices, and the linear-CHS mapping is done inside the unit. I
believe DD disks
for it.
On Mon, Jun 16, 2008 at 9:10 AM, Simon Owen [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
Thomas Harte wrote:
Although I'm aware that my USB drive may be hard coded somehow not to
support anything other than the PC layout
That's pretty much it I'm afraid! USB floppy drives are seen as simple
block devices
, Atom Lite, Trinity, - anything that uses B-DOS formats and splits the
mass storage into 800K chunks (called RECORDs) which each act as a floppy.
It's its own type of Format - not FAT32 or such like.
And I guess a Trinity Ethernet thingy from Quazar is equivalent to
an Atom Lite from a storage point
Thomas Harte wrote:
Hmmm, so Sam DOS numbers tracks from 0, but sectors from 1? Or am I
suffering a deficit of logic?
Yes.
sectors are 1-10. tracks are 0-79
the fun part (that used to throw many people) is the head selection.
sam has:
sector #C H S (cyl, head, sect)
1 0
Thomas Harte wrote:
Hmmm, so Sam DOS numbers tracks from 0, but sectors from 1? Or am I
suffering a deficit of logic?
Most systems use 1-based sector numbers, though the BBC Micro and Opus
Discovery both use 0-based. SAM track numbers are still 0-79 on both
sides, and the 128-207 numbering
for the
cp/m 2.2 system. Some files were missing from some of the images in the
Amstrad archives. Missing files were found in the cp/m MSX archives!
The files were moved to MS-DOS with a MSX disk image manager, then moved to
a Pro-DOS floppy with 22Disk - dos program.
Other files were in the wrong disk
on the rest. Then at least only one
piece of software for transferring from file system images to
Sam-segment images would need to be written, for the Sam itself. And
all PC OSs that can read/write cards and know FAT32 would work
immediately.
I'm actually not bad with low-level floppy formats
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Thomas wrote:
I take it from the talk of different versions of B-DOS that the
neither the Atom nor Trinity interfaces make any attempt to look
like a WD177x in hardware?
Correct.
Having hardware that would mimic the WD1772 for mass-storage would be
overkill I think, and drastically more
]
On Behalf Of Colin Piggot
Sent: 16 June 2008 16:00
To: Adrian
Subject: Re: Grabbing floppy images
Thomas wrote:
I take it from the talk of different versions of B-DOS that the
neither the Atom nor Trinity interfaces make any attempt to look
like a WD177x in hardware?
Correct.
Having hardware
Adrian wrote:
Is that a little hint hint at hte bottom of your email ;)
Nah, not trying to hint, I'd just send a message saying chop chop if I
wanted to be blatent about it! ;)
Besides you know I've been excited about seeing the stack going from when
you first said you would be looking at
is
still able to bring out
the creative side in people!
Chris.
- Original Message -
From: Adrian Brown [EMAIL PROTECTED]
To: sam-users@nvg.ntnu.no; [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Monday, June 16, 2008 4:54 PM
Subject: RE: Grabbing floppy images
Yer real life and work does get in the way
Hi,
I have a Mac running OS X v10.5.3. I also have a USB floppy drive.
Despite having previously refused to acknowledge any DOS formatted
double density disks, the drive seems to have some success recognising
Sam disks. But I don't seem to be able to successfully image a Sam
floppy. I
Hi Colin.
Can we people outside UK send you money in Euro??? This would make things much
easier.
Best wishes
Wo
Colin Piggot schrieb:
I'm also interested in your magazine, do you have an idea about shipping
costs
to italy?
I've just worked out how much postage would be for EU
Can we people outside UK send you money in Euro??? This would make things
much easier.
Best wishes
I can take euro notes and coins, but unfortunately not cheques in euros.
I will have to keep an eye on the exchange rates this end and calculate the
current euro price of items on request as I
Colin wrote:
A PC disk drive can be used with the same circuitry - using
the WD1772 disk drive controller IC - that is on the small
board which is soldered directly onto the back of the
original disk drive units.
Don't you need to buy a drive which supplies the RD (Ready) signal?
Geoff
A PC disk drive can be used with the same circuitry - using
the WD1772 disk drive controller IC - that is on the small
board which is soldered directly onto the back of the
original disk drive units.
Don't you need to buy a drive which supplies the RD (Ready) signal?
Geoff
Any
Hello,
my Sam floppy is broken for the second time and i'm not able to fix it.
Do i need a particular floppy drive or i can simply use a standard pc one?
I remember you being in contact back in January about Sam drives
The actual disk drive mechanism used in the original Sam floppy drives
is soldered directly
onto the back of the original disk drive units.
Ok, thanks for the info, i'll try with a standard floppy drive.
I'm also interested in your magazine, do you have an idea about shipping costs
to italy?
Thanks,
Bruno
Hello,
my Sam floppy is broken for the second time and i'm not able to fix it.
Do i need a particular floppy drive or i can simply use a standard pc one?
Thanks,
Bruno
hi
i noticed people were talking about spare parts for the sam and thought i'd
just post a little message with my request.
so .. if anybody has a spare [cheap] floppy drive for the sam then i would
be interested in it.
i have an external one, i think it was one that datel made for the spectrum
so .. if anybody has a spare [cheap] floppy drive for the sam then i
would
be interested in it.
i have an external one, i think it was one that datel made for the
spectrum,
but they used to work on the sam. [i think it was datel]. and that's
broken
now. so i'm always on the lookout for a new
i noticed people were talking about spare parts for the sam and thought i'd
just post a little message with my request.
so .. if anybody has a spare [cheap] floppy drive for the sam then i would
be interested in it.
i have an external one, i think it was one that datel made for the spectrum
- use -a switch.
- Unpacked file can be hidden.
5. Copy file CPM22SAM.108 to a recently formatted 720kB PC
disk (this file _must_ be the first file on the disk). Stick the
hole without slider at bottom side for HD floppy disk!
6. Boot your SAM Coupe from the PC disk.
More details you can find
On Sat, 24 Jun 2000, D.A. Fulton wrote:
I Got another question, a friend of mine has a sam without diskdrive , where
can he get one or adapt a pcfloppy to the sam ?
An original sam drive will be hard to find I would imagine. It used to be
possible to get a kit that let you adapt a pc floppy
- Original Message -
From: Tim P [EMAIL PROTECTED]
To: sam-users@nvg.ntnu.no
Sent: Saturday, June 24, 2000 6:37 PM
Subject: Re: Floppy
On Sat, 24 Jun 2000, D.A. Fulton wrote:
I Got another question, a friend of mine has a sam without diskdrive ,
where
can he get one or adapt
Ahem...
*whistles innocently*
Justin.
-Original Message-
From: David L [SMTP:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
(Never appreciated people who leave books on the floor instead of proper
bookcases :(
Hi first of all let me thank all people from this list the help you are
providing
me !!!
I Got another question, a friend of mine has a sam without diskdrive , where
can he get one or adapt a pcfloppy to the sam ?
thanks
I Got another question, a friend of mine has a sam without diskdrive , where
can he get one or adapt a pcfloppy to the sam ?
An original sam drive will be hard to find I would imagine. It used to be
possible to get a kit that let you adapt a pc floppy, but that was from
Bob Brenchley / Format
will be hard to find I would imagine. It used to be
possible to get a kit that let you adapt a pc floppy, but that was from
Bob Brenchley / Format who seem to have disappeared (although a friend of
mine who lives in Gloucester says the shop is still trading).
I'm sure someone on this list
I Got another question, a friend of mine has a sam without diskdrive ,
where
can he get one or adapt a pcfloppy to the sam ?
I'm sure someone on this list will be able to tell you how to adapt a
drive.
You could also look out for a SAM external floppy interface to connect a PC
floppy
On Thu, 15 Apr 1999 16:38:57 EDT Sat, 17 Apr 99 00:53:54 BST,
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
centre. Among the crap CDs and discontinued cookery books was a display of
cassette, video and disk storage items. One that caught my eye was a
well-made unit holding up to 240 floppy disks. It takes
the crap CDs and discontinued cookery books was a display of
cassette, video and disk storage items. One that caught my eye was a
well-made unit holding up to 240 floppy disks. It takes the form of a rigid
box holding a draw with two rows of 120 spaces for disks. The overall look is
compact
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