Re: [scots-l] Shetland geetarr

2001-01-29 Thread David Francis
??? The CB piano stuff is simple harmonies but very complicated rhythms and textural effects: the "Shetland" guitar stuff is complicated harmonies but simple rhythms. Where's the resemblance? Swing. Dave Francis Posted to Scots-L - The Traditional Scottish Music Culture List - To

Re: [scots-l] Shetland geetarr

2001-01-27 Thread Jack Campin
Yes, after all these descriptions of the so-called Shetland guitar style, I was wondering if there was any connection with the CB piano school. They do sound similar. ??? The CB piano stuff is simple harmonies but very complicated rhythms and textural effects: the "Shetland" guitar stuff is

Re: [scots-l] Shetland geetarr

2001-01-27 Thread Kate Dunlay or David Greenberg
Yes, after all these descriptions of the so-called Shetland guitar style, I was wondering if there was any connection with the CB piano school. They do sound similar. ??? The CB piano stuff is simple harmonies but very complicated rhythms and textural effects: the "Shetland" guitar stuff is

Re: [scots-l] Shetland geetarr

2001-01-26 Thread David Francis
I've been reading everyone's postings here about Shetland guitar playing traditions. It does seem to parrallel American JAzz guitar evolutions. My question pertains to playing back up. Do your descriptions apply to palying backup to strathspeys? It would all depend on the type of strathspey

Re: [scots-l] Shetland geetarr

2001-01-26 Thread Rob MacKillop
Dave Francis wrote: a different chord for every beat. It's worth listening to how the Cape Breton pianists accompany strathspeys for clues on timing and rhythms. Yes, after all these descriptions of the so-called Shetland guitar style, I was wondering if there was any connection with the CB

Re: [scots-l] Shetland geetarr

2001-01-24 Thread David Kilpatrick
Rob MacKillop wrote: There's a chance I will be doing my History of the Guitar in Scotland project either as a book or as a PhD. However it turns out, I have to start by confessing that I have an embarrassing ignorance of the 'unique' (I am informed) style of Shetland guitar playing in

Re: [scots-l] Shetland geetarr

2001-01-24 Thread Derek Hoy
Rob asked: There's a chance I will be doing my History of the Guitar in Scotland project either as a book or as a PhD. However it turns out, I have to start by confessing that I have an embarrassing ignorance of the 'unique' (I am informed) style of Shetland guitar playing in this, sorry,

Re: [scots-l] Shetland geetarr

2001-01-24 Thread Derek Hoy
Forgot to point out that these old guys were crazy about Eddie Lang etc, who played with jazz fiddlers- Lang and Joe Venuti, Django and Grapelli. So playing with fiddlers was just the natural thing to do. They also switched to mandolin at times to do some melody stuff. And that led to the

Re: [scots-l] Shetland geetarr

2001-01-24 Thread David Kilpatrick
Rob MacKillop wrote: David Kilpatrick wrote: it's what I have learned from local Shetland-style guitarists and various articles and stuff on the subject. What articles and stuff? If I may ask... Personal reminisences of those involved is clearly of great importance, but so are

Re: [scots-l] Shetland geetarr

2001-01-24 Thread Rob MacKillop
They also switched to mandolin at times to do some melody stuff. And that led to the Shetland banjo style :) Mercifully outwith my remit! Rob Posted to Scots-L - The Traditional Scottish Music Culture List - To subscribe/unsubscribe, point your browser to:

Re: [scots-l] Shetland geetarr

2001-01-24 Thread Derek Hoy
Thanks Derek and David. Just what I was looking for. Plenty of leads to follow up. By your descriptions I have to say that I am familiar with this style, and agree with Derek that it is not just a Shetland thing, although those guys may have been the first to record it in a folk setting. I

Re: [scots-l] Shetland geetarr

2001-01-24 Thread David Kilpatrick
Rob MacKillop wrote: They also switched to mandolin at times to do some melody stuff. And that led to the Shetland banjo style :) Mercifully outwith my remit! Rob, on mp3.com recently I found an artist claiming to have tunes from 15th Scottish mandora (sic) MS rearranged for (wait for

Re: [scots-l] Shetland geetarr

2001-01-24 Thread Rob MacKillop
Rob, on mp3.com recently I found an artist claiming to have tunes from 15th Scottish mandora (sic) MS rearranged for (wait for this) the scalloped fret guitar with ornaments derived from Indian sitar technique. I did listen to one such track, title like 'I met her in the the meadow' or such.