RE: CSGenerators for Iraqi Refugees

2007-07-31 Thread Ode Coyote
A solar cell puts out about one half volt regardless of size. However much area it takes to output a couple of milliamps in full sun is the concern. .03 watts per square centimeter is the power figure I get. It looks like surplus market calculator cells would be a way to go, some wired in

Re: CSGenerators for Iraqi Refugees

2007-07-31 Thread Ode Coyote
: Saturday, July 28, 2007 11:23 PM To: silver-list@eskimo.com Subject: Re: CSGenerators for Iraqi Refugees Maybe simple is best. You can't get simpler than four 9-V ni-cad solar rechargeable batteries. The only really desirable addition would be the electronics to produce automatic shutoff

Re: CSGenerators for Iraqi Refugees

2007-07-31 Thread Sandee George
Hi There Ode - thank you for the reality check as per usual well said - Have a super wonderful day Sandee Peace is easy ... it is a Mindset -- The Silver List is a moderated forum for discussing Colloidal Silver. Instructions for unsubscribing are posted at: http://silverlist.org To post,

Re: CSGenerators for Iraqi Refugees

2007-07-31 Thread Lee Nash
what about a solar water distiller? Leslie - Original Message - From: Ode Coyote odecoy...@alltel.net To: silver-list@eskimo.com Sent: Tuesday, July 31, 2007 4:05 AM Subject: RE: CSGenerators for Iraqi Refugees A solar cell puts out about one half volt regardless of size

Re: CSGenerators for Iraqi Refugees

2007-07-31 Thread CWFugitt
Leslie, At 09:20 AM 7/31/2007, you wrote: what about a solar water distiller? Solar Heaters and Solar Cookers are a different world from Solar Panels that produce voltage to use or charge batteries. You can make a solar cooker from a cardboard box and tinfoil. Mirrors, glass, and other

Re: CSGenerators for Iraqi Refugees

2007-07-30 Thread Ode Coyote
DC/DC voltage doublers have been around for a long time. Neat trick, but they eat more power than just using 2 batteries to get that voltage. The only advantage is space savings. A couple of 6 volt bicycle generators for lights will do the job nicely and are not uncommon in the third

RE: CSGenerators for Iraqi Refugees

2007-07-30 Thread Dan Nave
powering up the walkman or whatever they use these days... Dan -Original Message- From: Jonathan B. Britten [mailto:jbrit...@cc.nakamura-u.ac.jp] Sent: Saturday, July 28, 2007 11:23 PM To: silver-list@eskimo.com Subject: Re: CSGenerators for Iraqi Refugees Maybe simple is best. You can't

Re: CSGenerators for Iraqi Refugees

2007-07-30 Thread Sandee George
Hi There Wayne - would you please let me know where you found the solar panels for powering EIS makers - very interested as an alternative to no electricty - I make my own makers so this would be a great thing to have for the future ! Thanks Sandee Peace is easy ... it is a Mindset Yours :

RE: CSGenerators for Iraqi Refugees

2007-07-30 Thread CWFugitt
Morning Dan, At 08:08 AM 7/30/2007, you wrote: If you are just going for a colloidal silver maker in Iraq, you do not need batteries. There is plenty of reliable sun. You just need a solar cell and a current limit circuit. Likely this application needs the smallest solar charger in

Re: CSGenerators for Iraqi Refugees

2007-07-30 Thread Richard
:23 PM To: silver-list@eskimo.com Subject: Re: CSGenerators for Iraqi Refugees Maybe simple is best. You can't get simpler than four 9-V ni-cad solar rechargeable batteries. The only really desirable addition would be the electronics to produce automatic shutoff and constant current. Constant

RE: CSGenerators for Iraqi Refugees

2007-07-30 Thread Dan Nave
I am speaking from experience... Dan -Original Message- From: Richard [mailto:r...@xxicenturysilver.com] Sent: Monday, July 30, 2007 1:39 PM To: silver-list@eskimo.com Subject: Re: CSGenerators for Iraqi Refugees Dan , today OXFAM produced a report stating that the Iraqi Govt

Re: CSGenerators for Iraqi Refugees

2007-07-30 Thread CWFugitt
Evening Sandee, At 12:12 PM 7/30/2007, you wrote: This one would fit in the shirt pocket or purse. It would charge a battery also. Rechargeable batteries come in 1000 sizes today. Many are shirt pocket size. Remember you need sunshine. Some parts of the midwest have little sun.

Re: CSGenerators for Iraqi Refugees

2007-07-30 Thread Jonathan B. Britten
This is the reason any effort can help. Dr. Jones' solar stoves can cook food, sterilize water, and maybe make distiller water for EIS, with a few adaptations. One stove could help several families. It would be a start. He's donating the stoves, but in time we'll have up a PayPal site

Re: CSGenerators for Iraqi Refugees

2007-07-28 Thread mborgert
What about using solar powered batteries? -- Original message -- From: Jonathan B. Britten jbrit...@cc.nakamura-u.ac.jp List, I am discussing an interesting idea with the inventor of an effective solar stove, which might be adapted for rapid water

Re: CSGenerators for Iraqi Refugees

2007-07-28 Thread Meggan Gaumer
I love the idea...cant wait to hear more On 7/27/07, Jonathan B. Britten jbrit...@cc.nakamura-u.ac.jp wrote: List, I am discussing an interesting idea with the inventor of an effective solar stove, which might be adapted for rapid water distillation. My idea is to make an integrated unit

Re: CSGenerators for Iraqi Refugees

2007-07-28 Thread Jonathan B. Britten
I'm thinking of a 4-9V rechargeable Nicad setup. A custom solar charger to hold 4 9-V batteries might do the job nicely. If the same device had a switch to go from charging to output that would be neat. It could have a simple built-in constant current controller and heavy-duty alligator

Re: CSGenerators for Iraqi Refugees

2007-07-28 Thread CWFugitt
Evening JBB, SOTA Instruments has a patented method to turn the output of one 9-V battery into 36 volts in their low-cost Silver Pulser Lite.I think that device is constant current also. Keep in mind that near 100% of such devices have an overhead and a direct effect on efficiency. In

Re: CSGenerators for Iraqi Refugees

2007-07-28 Thread Jonathan B. Britten
Maybe simple is best. You can't get simpler than four 9-V ni-cad solar rechargeable batteries. The only really desirable addition would be the electronics to produce automatic shutoff and constant current. Constant current, in my personal experience, makes a big difference. Without that,

CSGenerators for Iraqi Refugees

2007-07-27 Thread Jonathan B. Britten
List, I am discussing an interesting idea with the inventor of an effective solar stove, which might be adapted for rapid water distillation. My idea is to make an integrated unit (preferably with a solar-powered generator) to make EIS for use by the millions of Iraqi refugees, who