Re: CSusing microwave parts

2009-08-01 Thread Dan Nave
A very useful description and schematic of the microwave circuitry called: The Microwave Oven Voltage-Doubler Circuit Used in the High Voltage Circuits of Commercial Residential Microwave Ovens is shown at: http://www.gallawa.com/microtech/doubler.html This is very useful to insure that you

Re: CSusing microwave parts

2009-08-01 Thread Dan Nave
Aren't there two different approaches to the high voltage CS making? One uses an arc, producing more colloidal particles, and one uses the electrodes further apart to produce ionic CS quickly with the high voltage potential. Which one are you referring to? Dan On Fri, Jul 31, 2009 at 11:36 AM,

Re: CSusing microwave parts

2009-08-01 Thread Indi
There are three ways I know of to do HVAC, actually. The arc method is the one most likely to produce undesirable nitrogen-based compounds, so I haven't tried it. Then there is the immersion method (both electrodes fully immersed), which according to Ol' Bob Berger is limited to producing maybe

Re: CSusing microwave parts

2009-07-31 Thread Ode Coyote
A microwave magnetron runs on HVDC and the box has a power level function to pulse it. Watch that cap! [ZAP] Ode At 11:46 AM 7/30/2009 -0400, you wrote: Using microwave parts is extremely dangerous. The voltages are high, the capacitances big, and currents unlimited. There has been

Re: CSusing microwave parts

2009-07-31 Thread Pierre Genton
Thanks for the warning about the cap. I made sure I discharged that before going into the electronics too far. Yes, I heard that the microwave electronics produced pulsed DC. At this stage I am looking for evidence of the system being able to produce small enough particles before I have a large

Re: CSusing microwave parts

2009-07-31 Thread Marshall Dudley
For the high voltage generation of CS, you use very small electrodes, not large ones. You use large ones for low voltage CS. The trick it to get the high density of silver ions away from the electrode before they can aggregate sufficiently. For low voltage that is done by Browning movement

Re: CSusing microwave parts

2009-07-31 Thread Pierre Genton
Marshall- That is really great information. I was told that I required 'bigger' electrodes and not smaller ones.?? Now that I think about it all HVAC systems do seem to have skinny tiny bits of electrodes sticking out of glass tubes just as you describe it. I am not sure what the voltage I am

Re: CSusing microwave parts

2009-07-30 Thread Marshall Dudley
Using microwave parts is extremely dangerous. The voltages are high, the capacitances big, and currents unlimited. There has been some discussion of using microwave transformers, but I thought those were for HVAC not HVDC. I see no way to produce small particle CS using high voltage DC as

Re: CSusing microwave parts

2009-07-30 Thread cking001
Marshall Duncan's HVDC generator from microwave parts (scroll down a bit) http://members.shaw.ca/duncancrow/colloidal_silver.html It's what I use now, after going thru the various stages we've used including HVAC. Not for the careless or electrically unknowledgeable.

Re: CSusing microwave parts

2009-07-28 Thread Sam L.
High voltage DC or AC is a different animal. I have made it successfully but it would take as long as LVDC CS. Increase the electrode size on LVDC and it would make allot faster. Using 2 1 ounce silver bars will produce a gallon every 2 hours under the right conditions. Other people on this list

CSusing microwave parts

2009-07-27 Thread Pierre Genton
Hi- I am new to the group here. I was referred to this list by a fellow who says there was some experience here amongst your ranks using microwave transformers and capacitors etc to make CS using high voltage DC. I wanted to go to the archives to have a look around but that section is not