Thought are welcome, patches are appreciated. Test cases are ... really
nice :-) If there's one thing I've found, persistence (polite
persistence) is a very good thing to have as well ;-)
John Yu wrote:
At 08:31 pm 01-03-03, you wrote:
First, David was probably trying to be helpful. (Why
Redundant only if you're using the appropriate prerequisites. As a
practical matter, not everyone can migrate as quickly as they might
like. In the 2.x series, the JSTL argument would have some technical
merit. In the 1.x series, it is not applicable to everyone in our target
base.
Of course,
At 03:15 am 02-03-03, you wrote:
My personal preferences on the immediate future are to make Struts 1.2 an
evolutionary path for existing 1.0 and 1.1 users, but adopt a release
often model of 1.2.x releases like what the Apache HTTPD server does, and
what Tomcat 4.1 and 5.0 have adopted --
At 01:36 am 02-03-03, you wrote:
The test I use is this:
Does the requested feature exist in JSTL? If so, don't duplicate the
effort in Struts. This is not just my opinion, it has been discussed
among the committers before.
I don't think people requesting enhancements or patches realize the
At 08:31 pm 01-03-03, you wrote:
First, David was probably trying to be helpful. (Why reinvent the wheel?)
No dispute about that! David's and other committers' dedication of time and
energy is much appreciated.
But to answer your question, I think the litmus test would be whether
there is a
Summing up, is it fair to say that an enhancement request which comes with
a patch (and possibly some test cases) will be given relatively higher
priority, regardless whether its functionality overlaps with other
technologies? (And persistence counts as well.)
I personally won't commit any
Thank you for reminding us of that - seems (nearly) everyone (except
you, I, and [ probably still ] Craig) wants to do that in 1.2.0 and that
was, at the time we decided to make 1.2.x move to an incremental build
system, determined to be more than 1.2.0 should entail.
open-mouth/
insert-foot/
Craig R. McClanahan wrote:
On Sat, 1 Mar 2003, Ted Husted wrote:
Date: Sat, 01 Mar 2003 17:56:04 -0500
From: Ted Husted [EMAIL PROTECTED]
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Craig R. McClanahan wrote
At 11:46 am 01-03-03, you wrote:
JSTL (and JavaServer Faces, when it becomes available) require Servlet 2.3
and JSP 1.2, so they are not even an option for a very significant portion
of the Struts user community. Thus, it would be irresponsible to abandon
our focus on ensuring the quality of the
First, David was probably trying to be helpful. (Why reinvent the wheel?)
But to answer your question, I think the litmus test would be whether
there is a working patch annexed.
All anyone has said is that since the attention of the Committers in
their own work is likely to be on other
? Struts 1.2 in
18 months?
.V
Craig R. McClanahan wrote:
On Fri, 28 Feb 2003, David Graham wrote:
Date: Fri, 28 Feb 2003 17:50:08 -0700
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Subject: Re: Short term plans
The taglibs
The plan is to change the base servlet requirement in 2.0 not 1.2.
David
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Date: Sat, 01 Mar 2003 07:37:38 -0500
Yes, it was James, and I join thanking him
.
David
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Date: Sat, 01 Mar 2003 16:34:07 +0800
At 11:46 am 01-03-03, you wrote:
JSTL (and JavaServer Faces, when it becomes available) require
On Sat, 1 Mar 2003, John Yu wrote:
Date: Sat, 01 Mar 2003 16:34:07 +0800
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At 11:46 am 01-03-03, you wrote:
JSTL (and JavaServer
Craig R. McClanahan wrote:
http://www.geocities.com/fullback_21_csca/index5.htmlhttp://www.geocities.com/fullback_21_csca/index5.htmlhttp://www.geocities.com/fullback_21_csca/index5.html
* I'm interested in decoupling the controller part of Struts
from its current heavy reliance on the Servlet
How about we solve the 7 remaining 1.1 bugs first ;-).
Dave
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Craig R. McClanahan wrote:
My
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How about we solve the 7 remaining 1.1 bugs first ;-).
Dave
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On Sat, 1 Mar 2003, Ted Husted wrote:
Date: Sat, 01 Mar 2003 17:56:04 -0500
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Craig R. McClanahan wrote:
My personal
The sentiments are good but the reality is sometimes different.
I submitted two sets of logic tags in May 2001 which provided switch/case
and if/and/or/else logic. They were basically wrappers for the existing
struts logic tags.
They were rejected at the time because the JSTL would be providing
Sounds great James! Thanks a bunch for doing the tests.
David
From: James Mitchell [EMAIL PROTECTED]
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Subject: Short term plans
Date: Fri, 28 Feb 2003 16:58:33 -0500
Committers/Developers
As most
-Original Message-
From: James Mitchell [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
My plans are to finish up html this weekend, and tiles, upload, and
validator by the end of next week. After that I hope to get all the
nested tags done between 3/15 and 3/22, then move on to the struts-el
tags.
With respect, consider how much time struts-devs should spend on tags, I
kind of agree with those that say slowly move them over to taglibs and
separate jar away from core struts, for example if JSTL can do it.
Of course I know, open source means donating contributors kind of get to
work on
The taglibs are a heavily used feature. We get a lot of bug reports on them
so the tests are badly needed. There is no doubt that we should use JSTL
but at this point not everyone has that option.
David
With respect, consider how much time struts-devs should spend on tags, I
kind of agree
On Fri, 28 Feb 2003, David Graham wrote:
Date: Fri, 28 Feb 2003 17:50:08 -0700
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Subject: Re: Short term plans
The taglibs are a heavily used feature. We get a lot of bug reports
: Short term plans
Date: Fri, 28 Feb 2003 19:46:27 -0800 (PST)
On Fri, 28 Feb 2003, David Graham wrote:
Date: Fri, 28 Feb 2003 17:50:08 -0700
From: David Graham [EMAIL PROTECTED]
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Subject: Re: Short term plans
The taglibs
Ted,
Take a squizz at the tutorials I put up on my nested extension page.
http://www.keyboardmonkey.com/stats
(thinking of putting up a support group page for blatant traffic
generators anonymous too. You in? :)
Starting off with the war file of everything needed with exception of
files
Arron Bates wrote:
PS: Any tag extensions planned for the Short Term Plans? :)
I think most of us are waiting on the JSTL.
What we have now seems sufficient, especially in a MVC environment, and
I would be concerned about doing anything that would heighten the
migration path.
Though, the
Take a squizz at the tutorials I put up on my nested extension page.
http://www.dictionary.com/cgi-bin/dict.pl?term=squizz
:)
-- Ted Husted, Husted dot Com, Fairport NY USA.
-- Building Java web applications with Struts.
-- Tel +1 585 737-3463.
-- Web http://www.husted.com/struts/
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To
On Sat, 12 Jan 2002, Martin Cooper wrote:
Date: Sat, 12 Jan 2002 23:16:29 -0800
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Subject: Re: [SHORT TERM PLANS]
I know I'm coming in a month late
Craig R. McClanahan wrote:
What about the stuff that's shared across multiple taglibs
(org.apache.struts.util.*, org.apache.struts.action.*, and so on)? I
haven't checked them all, but I'd be surprised if *any* of the tag
libraries can stand on their own without needing the proposed
little impact on the way people build Struts today.)
--
Martin Cooper
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From: Craig R. McClanahan [EMAIL PROTECTED]
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Sent: Sunday, January 13, 2002 1:56 PM
Subject: Re: [SHORT TERM PLANS]
On Sat, 12 Jan 2002, Martin
Ooops, one more.
* Adjust the build process so that there is a struts-core.jar and a
struts-tags.jar
Ted Husted wrote:
So to wrap up several outstanding threads, here's what is on my
near-term agenda
* Commit the initial ContextHelper to ActionServlet.
* Commit the InvokeAction
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