Perhaps this belongs on the user list, but I think it is relevant for
the discussion at hand. You all seem to regard all of the Struts taglibs
as one item, for which JSTL is an alternative. While this is certainly
true for the logic: and bean: tags, I have not seen a replacement for
the
html: form
You are right, JSTL doesn't completely remove the need for Struts specific
tags.
I think for the purposes of this discussion, the next generation would be
JSTL plus the struts-el taglib and when we talk about the Struts tags, we're
really talking about the traditional, non-el tags.
So keep using
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From: Ted Husted [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: August 29, 2003 6:08 PM
Each of us can only offer support from our own experience. If a person
is not using the html taglib, then they might not know the html taglib
solution. But if they are using JSTL, they might
Craig R. McClanahan wrote:
I'm -1 on making Struts 1.2.x dependent on Servlet 2.3 / JSP 1.2.
Ditto. Contrary to popular brief, a great number of organizations have
*not* migrated to 2.3/1.2, including some of the largest companies in
the world.
-Ted.
My original point really was that if the standard for Struts continues to be
2.2/1.1 that we should be careful not to reply to the How do I do this with
html:??? questions with the stock answer of use JSTL.
If we're supporting Struts tags then I believe we should first answer the
question that
Each of us can only offer support from our own experience. If a person
is not using the html taglib, then they might not know the html taglib
solution. But if they are using JSTL, they might know a JSTL solution.
There's no limit on the number of responses we can post to a question.
If someone
I haven't seen a patch for the tags (except for James, David and Aaron) in
quite a while because the response to maintaining/enhancing the tags is so
negative. Most of us who really use/customize the tags have gone our own
way already.
Edgar
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From: Steve Raeburn
I would like to see those responses.
Edgar
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From: Ted Husted [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Friday, August 29, 2003 8:08 PM
(Hey, maybe I should start answering the html taglib
questions with the
Velocity Tools solution!)
David Graham wrote:
IMO, Struts 2.x should attempt to get out of the taglib business
altogether. Until then, we should just let the tags be and maintain
Struts 1.x as Servlet 2.2 minimum requirement.
+1
And along the way, we can start distancing the core distribution from
the taglib
On Fri, 29 Aug 2003, Steve Raeburn wrote:
My original point really was that if the standard for Struts continues to be
2.2/1.1 that we should be careful not to reply to the How do I do this with
html:??? questions with the stock answer of use JSTL.
Point well taken -- I've been guilty of
Many Jakarta products have subproducts with their own CVS. Perhaps there
should be a Struts taglib CVS where all three packages could live.
-Ted.
+1
What about also doing this for the contrib components? Some of these are
really only concepts or proposals rather than production quality
--- Rick Hightower [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
I am not a voter, but I think
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Trivera Technologies
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From: Steve Raeburn
On Fri, 29 Aug 2003, David Graham wrote:
Date: Fri, 29 Aug 2003 10:26:54 -0700 (PDT)
From: David Graham [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Reply-To: Struts Developers List [EMAIL PROTECTED],
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To: Struts Developers List [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: RE: Support for non-JSTL tags (was RE:
I'm not singling Vic out for this (honest) but...
The standard advice we are now giving everyone is use JSTL, which I
wholeheartedly agree with and have said myself. However, I think we need to
make sure that we still adequately support non-JSTL solutions and continue
to consider bug
--- Steve Raeburn [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
I'm not singling Vic out for this (honest) but...
The standard advice we are now giving everyone is use JSTL, which I
wholeheartedly agree with and have said myself. However, I think we need
to
make sure that we still adequately support non-JSTL
Steve Raeburn wrote:
I'm not singling Vic out for this (honest) but...
The standard advice we are now giving everyone is use JSTL, which I
wholeheartedly agree with and have said myself. However, I think we need to
make sure that we still adequately support non-JSTL solutions and continue
to
For what my non-contributor opinion's worth, I totally agree with David.
So far as I know, while JSTL is not _required_ by the standard for JSP
1.2, it does not _require_ 1.2 -- and can be used with 1.1 containers;
so saying use JSTL does not translate to upgrade to Servlet 2.3.
Shai.
JSTL does indeed require JSP 1.2.
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For what my non-contributor opinion's worth, I totally agree with David.
So far as I know, while JSTL is not _required_ by the standard for JSP
1.2, it does not _require_ 1.2 -- and can be used with 1.1 containers;
so saying use
I am not a voter, but I think
Comments below...
Rick Hightower
Chief Technology Officer
Trivera Technologies
http://www.triveratech.com
520 290 6855 (Phone)
520 977 8605 (Mobile)
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From: Steve Raeburn [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Wednesday, August 27, 2003
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