what was your ewxperience with vacuum distillation of the glycerin? am
about to undrtake some experiments , and any info would be appreciated
thanks,
anton
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From: steve spence
I know that the unimog can climb a 24 vertical obstruction from a
standing start butted up against said object.
Yes they can, and more besides.
A bit of info on Unimogs. I was in Germany as a working forester for ten
years. Unimogs were the
Hi Dave
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From: steve spence
I know that the unimog can climb a 24 vertical obstruction from a
standing start butted up against said object.
Yes they can, and more besides.
A bit of info on Unimogs. I was in Germany as a working forester for ten
years. Unimogs
I conjuction with all this discussion of 4x4 and in line with our other
interests, I came across a site that mentioned a hybrid electric truck with
wheel motors built by Ferdinand Porsche in Austria, I think around the turn
of the century. It was used in the mountains. Old becomes new again, eh?
Not sure of the year, but here it is:
The first Porsches, named after its Austrian makers, were built in Austria
before the company moved to Germany in 1949.Ê Ferdinand Porsche had worked
for Lohner, Austrian manufacturers of motorcars and later scooters, and
developed a revolutionary electric
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This is not a criticism, but I am wondering if anyoneBR
is interested in a more
Dana,
You wrote:
This is not a criticism, but I am wondering if anyone
is interested in a more focused discussion of SVO/WVO.
Yes, definitely
I have learned a lot on this forum and know there are
folks out there that are mainly interested in the WVO
aspect of it. I wonder if anyone would
Craig
As I understand it is a substance in raw veg. oil
which cooks out at high temp. and contributes to heavy
deposits on injectors etc. It may be some of the 15+
micron stuff that filters out of WVO. Studies I have
seen posted here and elsewhere would indicate to me
that WVO user do not have as
Dana,
Thanks. I'm assuming that a two-tank system wherein dinodiesel or biodiesel
would be run at shutdown is not sufficient to wash these deposits off the
injectors - that is,that the deposits are cooked on (or coked on) so
thoroughly that the dino flush doesn't touch them?
And - if heating
Craig,
I have been running exclusively on WVO as it is nearly
free. I don't know for sure if diesel or BD will wash
or prevent the coking. And to clarify, I believe that
raising the temp of raw oil only causes it to solidify
or clump together...it still must be filtered
out...this just allows it
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Emissions of Neat Vegetable Oil Fuel.
While neat vegetable oils are competitive with
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some emission categories, problems were identified for
other kinds of
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OK ...
I have been scouring the WWW for information on folks
practical experiences on SVO conversions and here is
some of what I have found. This may seem basic to some
but may seem like arcane knowledge to others. I
encourage others to submit what merely MAY be useful
to others. I will attempt
Dana,
You wrote:
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Some folks put a T in their SVO line from tank to
pump so they can eliminate the return line back to SVO
tank by allowing it to recirculate. This may seem
like an easy solution to several problems and a way to
save money on solenoid valves.BUT...The problem with
To address the last comment first, it is evident that the use of SVO has not
been abandoned. To the contrary there is much interest even in places such
as Germany, where biodiesel is widely available. We know the reasons for
this interest, so no need to discuss that one.
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RE: Studies showing
Jim,
In some instances, a larger vehicle, even one in the form of an SUV, may be
preferable as compared to a compact or energy efficient vehicle, but for the
vast majority of people, this just isn't the case.
For a family of four, a car like the Honda Civic will fulfill all the
requirements you
veggie oil cokes after the engine is shut down. that's the reason to
shutdown on biod. no deposits are left. the oil must be heated before/during
injection to reduce viscosity.
Steve Spence
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we filter the chunks out. heating reduces the viscosity so that the injector
pump can handle the oil, biod flushed the system so no deposits are left.
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I think you still misunderstand. your quoted expert claimed it was a good
fix (the ! nonsense), I showed that even Symantec and mcafee claims it's
not, and not to tell people to do it, and you questioned my knowledge.
snidely it seemed even. maybe in the future you might listen to me with a
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I will loan you my diesel rabbit if you will go eliza's and get me some hot
and sour soup and some maongolian ostrich ( yes, they do )
anton
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From: Keith Addison [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Saturday, December 08, 2001 4:20 AM
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Subject: Re:
Is there anyone out there who is making biodiesel with ethanol on a small
scale (under 1,000 gallons a day)?
Is it impracticle to make biodiesel with ethanol on a small scale?
I have lived in Mexico, Costa Rica, Peru, Ecuador, St. Vincent Grenada
(Caribbean) over the last six years. Used
Just a quick question - if used cooking oil is hard to find where you are,
what do you plan to use? Is new oil available at a price that you can
afford, compared to petroleum diesel?
Also: Have you considered going to SVO instead of biodiesel to get around
the methanol issue?
Edward Beggs
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Steve,
That's what I understand too and it makes sense to me
but I have seen some studies that indicate that RAW
vegoil can produce heavy deposits on injectors and in
piston ring grooves. Acreolien was mentioned as a
likely culprit. Indications were that raising the
temperature of the oil for
Craig,
You wrote:
I'm going to use, I think, a 6-port manual tank
selector valve from
Anderson Brass. It's about $114, and requires more
complicated plumbing runs
since it needs to be installed where you can reach
it while driving - on the
firewall, or, in a truck, below the driver's
A major part of any conversion is warming the SVO to
around 170*F in order to lower its' viscosity to that
of diesel. This must be done so there is not undue
strain on the injector pump and to minimize deposits
in the combustion chamber. So far I am aware of four
ways of doing this.
1The
Thank you for your inquiry. Diesel fuel in most every country is over two
dollars (USA) or more per gallon. Also most all of the vehicles run on
diesel because the price of diesel is much less expensive than gasoline. The
wholesale price of vegetable oils is less than the common price in the
You do not need to experiment to the point of reinventing the wheel. Many
people, myself included, have been using SVO for quite a while with no
problems when done properly, and it is certainly a viable, easier and less
expensive option than producing biodiesel in difficult circumstances,
Hi Gerry
Is there anyone out there who is making biodiesel with ethanol on a small
scale (under 1,000 gallons a day)?
Is it impracticle to make biodiesel with ethanol on a small scale?
Optimization of a Batch Type Ethyl Ester Process -- a sure-fire
recipe for biodiesel from ethanol (which you
Just a few notes on the viscosity item, and on VEG-Therm electric heaters,
in response to Dana's post:
412vdc heaters are mentioned in quite a few posts
and are available through Neoteric Fuels.
I have also
seen posts that suggest that you can make your own
with a little ingenuity
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