Re: [biofuel] Fwd: [biofuels-biz] Re: EPA vs. biodiesel producer issue

2002-04-11 Thread keith
Tom, what did your Congressman think about EPA;s response to you?. He had initiated the request to the EPA Administrator, asking for some review of their regulations toward possibly providing for some relief and/or exception for the small biodiesel producers, since their regulations

Re: [biofuels-biz] It is not about biofuels anymore

2002-04-11 Thread c.rawson
Keith wrote: But what's Yatch? And what're you patenting, if it's not confidential? Yes, sorry guys.. for yatch read yacht, (there's no chance of me getting one if I can't spell it), there's no patent or down-payment - I was only joking - but if you have to explain a joke then, by definition,

Re: [biofuels-biz] Re: Vacuum

2002-04-11 Thread David Teal
Motie, Youre on the right track with corrugated culvert pipe. I have done some work on resistance of pipes to external pressure, and have a design spreadsheet somewhere. Otherwise, you can find good guidelines from AWWA (American WaterWorks Association) for thin-wall pipe with external

Re: [biofuels-biz] Digest Number 203

2002-04-11 Thread Tim Castleman
I attempted a repeat last night with a Shop air compressor, and still no positive result. The wornout old thing could only make about 20 inches of vacuum, and nothing happened in an hour of maintaining it. The problem you will have with a refrigeration compressor is that by design they discharge

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[biofuel] Biodiesel

2002-04-11 Thread Manuel Simoes
I made some biodiesel from WVO, after the first wash with water and acetic acid i found a biodiesel with ph=7, and very limpid, but the density is 0.89 diferent of common diesel (0.84-0.85), is this density correct ??? Cumprimentos. Manuel

[biofuel] Re: Biodiesel Processing Technologies

2002-04-11 Thread manolorolan
but ..., do they use this process instead of washing? could it be a way of not spending so much water? Thanks ken Manolo Rolan Valencia, Spain --- In [EMAIL PROTECTED], Ken Provost [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Manolo writes: on 2.1.1 Batchwise Operating Technologies on fig 6. has the

[biofuel] Re: Hydrous Gasohol

2002-04-11 Thread motie_d
--- In [EMAIL PROTECTED], [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Hello Everybody I have read in every book I have read on the production of fuel grade ethanol that you have to use anhydrous ethanol to produce gasohol. Or the water will fall out and when it reachs your carb or injector system, burn very

Re: [biofuel] Biodiesel

2002-04-11 Thread Joe Giacomini
I routinely get 0.87 to 0.88 for biodiesel from WVO. 0.89 is probably ok if the wash left a very clear liquid. You should be able to read text when looking through 20 cm of BD at room temperature or even slightly below. If there is any cloudiness you may have left over water in the mix.

[biofuel] Re: Hydrous Gasohol

2002-04-11 Thread Ken Provost
George wrote: My thinking is this, hydrous ethanol (let's say 180 proof) is a lot cheaper and faster to make than anhydrous. Mix the hydrous ethanol with your gasoline and let it set until the water falls out and then drain the water off. I can't imagine this would work to dry alcohol, or

[biofuel] Re: Hydrous Gasohol

2002-04-11 Thread motie_d
--- In [EMAIL PROTECTED], Ken Provost [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: George wrote: My thinking is this, hydrous ethanol (let's say 180 proof) is a lot cheaper and faster to make than anhydrous. Mix the hydrous ethanol with your gasoline and let it set until the water falls out and then

Re: [biofuel] Re: Hydrous Gasohol

2002-04-11 Thread George Wessel
I have the same problem, I don't understand what's happening to the gasoline when you add ethanol and water and I know of no one I can ask other than this group. I would be inclined to believe the authors of the various books I've read that the water will fall out and cause problems. Many

Re: [biofuel] Re: Hydrous Gasohol

2002-04-11 Thread Keith Addison
AFAIK it's not the water that separates from the ethanol and gasoline. The water causes the ethanol and the gasoline to separate. There's stuff in the archives about this. Here's what one message said: The separation that occurs is the gas and alcohol separating NOT the alcohol and water. It

Re: [biofuel] Re: Hydrous Gasohol

2002-04-11 Thread Mike Frieders
I don't think alchol can achieve 200 proof, 190 is the best you can do. But it still should give you a benchmark to determine water content.. George Wessel wrote: I have the same problem, I don't understand what's happening to the gasoline when you add ethanol and water and I know of no one

[biofuel] Bioenergy 2002

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[biofuel] Re: Hydrous Gasohol

2002-04-11 Thread motie_d
--- In [EMAIL PROTECTED], George Wessel [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I have the same problem, I don't understand what's happening to the gasoline when you add ethanol and water and I know of no one I can ask other than this group. I would be inclined to believe the authors of the various books

[biofuel] One-person boycott

2002-04-11 Thread SleepsamongOaks
Hi, I've been on this list for a few months now and check the posts every once in a while. I'm interested in biofuels, but mostly I have a question for all of you and I welcome any feedback. If you were an average non-technical person in an oil-based society like the United States, and you

[biofuel] Re: Hydrous Gasohol

2002-04-11 Thread motie_d
--- In [EMAIL PROTECTED], Keith Addison [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: AFAIK it's not the water that separates from the ethanol and gasoline. The water causes the ethanol and the gasoline to separate. There's stuff in the archives about this. Here's what one message said: The separation that

[biofuel] Re: Hydrous Gasohol

2002-04-11 Thread Keith Addison
--- In [EMAIL PROTECTED], Keith Addison [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: AFAIK it's not the water that separates from the ethanol and gasoline. The water causes the ethanol and the gasoline to separate. There's stuff in the archives about this. Here's what one message said: The separation

[biofuel] Re: One-person boycott

2002-04-11 Thread motie_d
--- In [EMAIL PROTECTED], [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Hi, I've been on this list for a few months now and check the posts every once in a while. I'm interested in biofuels, but mostly I have a question for all of you and I welcome any feedback. If you were an average non-technical person