ÒSummer Sizzler SVO SaleÓ Ð For the rest of the summer, (well, it is summer
in this hemisphere at least!) we are offering our SVO kit, complete with
VEG-Therm electric SVO heating, six port switching valve, SVO filter, and
all necessary fittings, switches, and SVO lines, fasteners,
Tis is a common technology. But it needs a lot of energy, because usually the
sludge is 95 % of water.
Reinhard Henning
harmonseaver [EMAIL PROTECTED] schrieb:
So what about gasification of biosolids? I'd think that would
essentially concentrate any heavy metals in the ash, which could
--- In [EMAIL PROTECTED], coachgeo3 [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
I am an avide offroader and we have seen PUBLIC land closed to the
PUBLIC way to much. Yes... their are peope who abuse the land but
lets punish that small percentage not the larger percentage of those
who do not.
All,
Well, the sludge locally is totally dry and crumbly as it comes out
of the plant, and they actually pay people to take it and deliver it
to them as well.
--- In [EMAIL PROTECTED], [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
Tis is a common technology. But it needs a lot of energy, because
usually the sludge
ÒSummer Sizzler SVO SaleÓ Ð For the rest of the summer, (well, it is summer
in this hemisphere at least!) we are offering our SVO kit, complete with
VEG-Therm electric SVO heating, six port switching valve, SVO filter, and
all necessary fittings, switches, and SVO lines, fasteners,
I hope that's hyperbole . . . just because some people are noisy jerks
who violate others' property -- admittedly a serious problem -- doesn't
mean anyone has a right to be judge, juror and literal hangman. If the
gov't won't do it, then use whatever legal means are at your disposal
and let
Harmon,
The tire spikes and razor wire may be a little severe but,
I can empathise with your disgust. I have personally left a
couple of dickheads laying crumpled in the dust(one got a
good left hook and the other a nice kick in the balls) for
their blatant disregard for my right to keep my
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From: harmonseaver [EMAIL PROTECTED]
To: biofuel@yahoogroups.com
Sent: Saturday, July 13, 2002 07:18
Subject: [biofuel] Re: Open Season on Open Space
All, and I mean *ALL*, motorized offroad use needs to be stopped
ASAP. And that includes motorboats.
I'm
Let me say thank you for the offer, just in case no one else does. What
besides biodiesel and your web site do you have on site and what is your
location? Not that both of those and your prolific writing on the newsgroup
sites are not enough.
I would be interested to see your operation in
Christopher,
[No]one has the right to be judge, juror and literal
hangman.?
I suppose if no one can place judgement, that makes nothing
wrong - open season - Yippeee!!
I wonder why every president fights tooth and nail to have
preferential judges installed, especially if they don't
Caught this thread mid-stream, but I tend to agree
with Greg. I think remove *ALL* motorized offroad
vehicles is a bit too extreme.
I should know ... I myself am a avid 4X4'er myself.
But I don't go around ... destroying the forest.
In my opinion, it's not an offroad problem ... it's
an
I think so too. And it scares the hell out of me.
Not so much because I do anything wrong against the
earth cause I don't.
But I do feel that if we're not careful ... this
fervor can easily (and I do mean easily) fireball
into a full scale witchhunt. With lynch mob type
justice and
Proceed with Caution?
Insufficient Data?
Need More Studies?
Come on guys. All the yellow flags are blatantly and abundantly
clear. What off roaders are looking for is green flag racing
policies until the bitter end.
When are humans going to curb their appetites in order that other
species and
- Original Message -
From: Appal Energy [EMAIL PROTECTED]
To: biofuel@yahoogroups.com
Sent: Saturday, July 13, 2002 14:09
Subject: Re: [biofuel] Re: Open Season on Open Space
And yet off roaders bitch when they can't hot rod to the top of
Gannett Peak. What you have are instances of
Do me a favor. Go to Southern California, to the Mojave desert,
anytime in the winter after Thanksgiving Day. Then come back
and tell me about all the 'family-oriented', handicapped,
nature-loving poor off roading souls you'll see out there making
the nature accessible to themselves via about
Get real Greg. You eliminated the qualifier I made the post
previous for handicapped and then attempt to suggest that I would
omit them?
Here it is, lest you unintentionally missed it:
Personally? Harmon's smack dab center on target. Save for the
handicapped, anyone who can't get off their fat
Ok, here's the deal.
First of all, I DO NOT condone trashing a forest. Or
a desert .. for that matter. Such behavior is
irresponsible, corporate profit-driven, and downright
stupid.
That's me now... Curtis ... the avid offroader/4X4
enthusiast talking. Me now, condemning such behavior.
But
Hold on there ChrisThose ARE your words. I didn't put them
there.
And I tend to disagree with you in part. Sometimes what you call
vigilante justice is the only justice that money can't buy.
Todd Swearingen
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From: Christopher Witmer [EMAIL PROTECTED]
To:
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From: girl_mark_fire [EMAIL PROTECTED]
To: biofuel@yahoogroups.com
Sent: Saturday, July 13, 2002 15:20
Subject: [biofuel] Re: Open Season on Open Space
Do me a favor. Go to Southern California, to the Mojave desert,
anytime in the winter after Thanksgiving Day.
Curtis,
You don't have to condone destruction for it to happen right
before your eyes.
It happens with or without your consent.
And as for your 90%.
One group of 8 and another group of 7 were the ones that ran me
off steep trails. In both instances all were 20 feet beyond the
damage they
Whoa!! Ok, I agree that adult to semi-adult humans
whose primary concern is themselves and their
convenience factor, all in the midst of their
conquests do not deserve an opportunity to tear up a
forest.
I agree with you ... ME ... the 4X4 nutcase. What I
have a problem with is the labeling of
That's kinda what meant
Curtis
--- Greg and April [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
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The biggest problem is people tend to only look at the
worst, and then say ban it all, without seeing that
other people do it differently. Whenever off road
comes up, the picture
Let me see if you've still not got this straight
I pack for a week into wilderness (actually no motorized traffic
is allowed in designated wilderness, not that it has yet to
stop anyone).
You pull up to my campsite in a 4x4 and say Hey, how's it goin'
bud? (Or just drive by.)
And I and
- Original Message -
From: Appal Energy [EMAIL PROTECTED]
To: biofuel@yahoogroups.com
Sent: Saturday, July 13, 2002 15:25
Subject: Re: [biofuel] Re: Open Season on Open Space
Get real Greg. You eliminated the qualifier I made the post
previous for handicapped and then attempt to
GO GET UM CURTIS... I'M BEHIND YOU 100%
I'm an avid wheeler and an amateur journalist that writes primarily
about my 4x4 adventures. But unlike many are expressing here you have
no understanding that true off-roaders are good stewards of the land
and the true ENVIRONMENTALIST. We enjoy the
I guess the problem I have, it seems that people who don't like off-roading,
want to keep it all for them selves and don't want to let the off-roaders
have any.
I saw a case were a trail was opened to off-roading only, people raised a
stink that it should be multi-use for all the people, so a
Todd,
Granted, you have a point that too often justice goes to the highest
bidder. But whether vigilante or bought justice, it isn't reallly
justice in either case. Sometimes there is no justice to be had in this
world, and if I ever find myself in a position where my ox is the one
getting
The way I see it is. If you can't leave this planet's
natural wonders better than when you found them, STAY HOME!
No one has the right to defile these beautiful places one
iota. Our descendants are going to find survival hard
enough, without more thoughtless entertainment. I doubt
very much that
--- In [EMAIL PROTECTED], Appal Energy [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
Let me see if you've still not got this straight
I pack for a week into wilderness (actually no motorized traffic
is allowed in designated wilderness, not that it has yet to
stop anyone).
You pull up to my campsite in a
Uh huhTrue enviros huh??? Challenges of nature against a 4x4
or a Humvee huh
How about shaggin' your butt across that stream on your own two
feet for a change, instead of a set of 33x14.5 Swampers?
Self police huh??? Taking lessons from the petrol and chemical
companies on that one?
Uhhuh...YupperBetter to be among the screwed on
judgement day than to issue a little discernment well in
advanceProperty rights and all, doncha know.
While the Big Kahuna doesn't pay anyone to think, and it's not
expected, it's the probable outcome that is hoped for.
Please Squiresave your pity for the occasion when you'll most
need it.
You just don't get it. The principle reason why people go into
wilderness is to get away from the very crap that off roaders
can't seem to unhitch from their belts.
And until you figure that one out, you better make
--- In [EMAIL PROTECTED], Christopher Witmer [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
vigilante justice is no justice. The gov't is responsible for
dispensing
justice, and it is a travesty when it fails to do so. But if people
acting outside legal authority take it upon themselves to seek
vengeance
when
--- In [EMAIL PROTECTED], Appal Energy [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
And I'm sorrybut I'm not. If the little tykes can't walk, let
the parents pack 'em in. If they can, let them carry their own
weight.
Yup, kids can walk. Babies can be carried, there's tons of nice
equipment for packing
--- In [EMAIL PROTECTED], Christopher Witmer [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
Todd,
Granted, you have a point that too often justice goes to the highest
bidder. But whether vigilante or bought justice, it isn't reallly
justice in either case. Sometimes there is no justice to be had in this
--- In [EMAIL PROTECTED], girl_mark_fire [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
what I am
saying, is that others should not condem a few, that want/need
to use their
ICEs to blend in with nature and get away from the crowd,
Blend in with nature?
Isn't that just utterly incredible?
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