[biofuels-biz] Tour de Sol: The Great American Green Transportation Festival

2003-03-29 Thread Steve Spence
May 10-14, 2003 The 15th annual Tour de Sol: The Great American Green Transportation Festival Festivals in four communities: Burlington City, NJ (Saturday, May 10); Trenton, NJ (Monday, May 12); Philadelphia (Tuesday, May 13); Washington, DC (Wednesday, May 14). See and test-drive

RE: [biofuel] EU: Boycott of American Goods Over Iraq War Gains Momentum

2003-03-29 Thread Jerry
What is wrong with you people?? You really think that a boycott would make any difference?? The economy is gone to hell now, and you want to boycott American products and or business!! Seems to me that you are trying to shoot yourself in the foot, with all this boycott stuff. I really don't

Re: [biofuel] Global Warming

2003-03-29 Thread Hakan Falk
Tom, Sorry, got a zero wrong,-:) but it is nothing, compared with what Bryan got wrong. Did not react, since my mind is made up on this issue and I am very worried. It is to take seriously and we have nothing to loose to do so. Thank you for correcting me and even more for improving my

Re: [biofuel] Re: EU: Boycott of American Goods Over Iraq War Gains Momentum

2003-03-29 Thread Hakan Falk
I agree with you and it would be difficult for even Bush to paint the Queen as an evil dictator. Even if he could, London already proved that it can resist bombings. But if Bush wanted to do it, I guess that the French would let him use France as staging area. I have always wondered about how

Re: [biofuel] Eliminating Truth

2003-03-29 Thread exotyone
lol..this is the most leftist BS i have ever seen, and quoting Robert Fisk, is like quoting The Globe or The National Enquierer or the star...mainstream media is actually IN the units fightingright on the front lines! Isn't Robert Fisk the 1 who interviewed Saddam like he was interviewing

Re: [biofuel] Iraq...

2003-03-29 Thread Andrew Preston
Well, I guess you do know lots about munitions. It doesn't however seem particularly relevant to the original posting. In terms of your need for everything to be officially 'confirmed', rather than, perhaps, looking around at different sources to what you have previously accepted, well, that's up

Re: [biofuel] Eliminating Truth

2003-03-29 Thread Keith Addison
lol..this is the most leftist BS i have ever seen, and quoting Robert Fisk, is like quoting The Globe or The National Enquierer or the star...mainstream media is actually IN the units fightingright on the front lines! Isn't Robert Fisk the 1 who interviewed Saddam like he was interviewing

Re: [biofuel] Re: Electric generators

2003-03-29 Thread Steve Spence
you need a approved grid tie inverter for that. Steve Spence Subscribe to the Renewable Energy Newsletter Discussion Boards. Read about Sustainable Technology: http://www.green-trust.org [EMAIL PROTECTED] - Original Message - From: eric12856 [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: biofuel@yahoogroups.com

Re: [biofuel] biodiesel and diesel?

2003-03-29 Thread Steve Spence
only if heated first. see http://webconx.green-trust.org/2000/biofuel/yohn for procedures on how to do it. Steve Spence Subscribe to the Renewable Energy Newsletter Discussion Boards. Read about Sustainable Technology: http://www.green-trust.org [EMAIL PROTECTED] - Original Message -

Re: [biofuel] Re: Electric generators

2003-03-29 Thread Steve Spence
This is not legal in the USA. You must use approved grid tie equipment. Steve Spence Subscribe to the Renewable Energy Newsletter Discussion Boards. Read about Sustainable Technology: http://www.green-trust.org [EMAIL PROTECTED] - Original Message - From: Ken Basterfield [EMAIL

RE: [biofuel] EU: Boycott of American Goods Over Iraq War Gains Momentum

2003-03-29 Thread Hakan Falk
Jerry, I think you misunderstood it, it is in foreign countries that a movement is growing now to boycott American companies/products. It is a reaction on the unjust war and maybe the pictures of Americans emptying fine French wine in the gutter, a waste that is criminal. If anyone want to get

[biofuel] Re: Electric generators

2003-03-29 Thread eric12856
Yes it is not legal, but the solar guys in Home Power magazine have nothing but grief from the utilities... too many barriers to net- metering even though they are required to let you inter-tie by law. So they do whats called Guerrilla Solar and inter-tie anyway. So was was thinking of going

Re: [biofuel] Re: Electric generators

2003-03-29 Thread Steve Spence
No, the homepower guys use approved grid tie equipment, anything else puts linemen at risk. They don't always inform the utility, but they use safe equipment. Steve Spence Subscribe to the Renewable Energy Newsletter Discussion Boards. Read about Sustainable Technology:

RE: [biofuel] Re: Electric generators

2003-03-29 Thread kirk
when generating island your property. That is proper and lawful. Just connect back to the grid for small nightime loads or when you are away. SInce someone is going to get electrocuted someday from improperly designed hookups legislation has been passed in some states for mandatory jail time in

[biofuel] diesel cars in the United States?

2003-03-29 Thread murdoch
Anyone have any recommendations about buying a used diesel, so as to implement biodiesel? My gasoline-powered car has been destroyed as it sat parked at the side of the road by a woman who thought it was important to look down at her new little dog as it distracted her in her Ford F150. I am

Re: [biofuel] diesel cars in the United States?

2003-03-29 Thread Steve Spence
cars: vw TDI's, mercedes, trucks: gm, for, dodge small trucks: nissan, mazda Steve Spence Subscribe to the Renewable Energy Newsletter Discussion Boards. Read about Sustainable Technology: http://www.green-trust.org [EMAIL PROTECTED] - Original Message - From: murdoch [EMAIL

Re: [biofuel] EU: Boycott of American Goods Over Iraq War Gains Momentum

2003-03-29 Thread Appal Energy
So what you advocate is avarice and conspicuous consumption in order to keep poor working slob[s] ... in america employed? Doesn't matter if that conspicuous consumption promotes exploitation of other people and resources? So everyone should go out and shop, at least according to the gospel of

[biofuel] at only 4% of EV system cost

2003-03-29 Thread kirk
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[biofuel] some energy fundamentals

2003-03-29 Thread kirk
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Re: [biofuel] at only 4% of EV system cost

2003-03-29 Thread Neoteric Biofuels Inc
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Re: [biofuel] diesel cars in the United States?

2003-03-29 Thread Keith Addison
Anyone have any recommendations about buying a used diesel, so as to implement biodiesel? My gasoline-powered car has been destroyed as it sat parked at the side of the road by a woman who thought it was important to look down at her new little dog as it distracted her in her Ford F150. I am

Re: [biofuel] EU: Boycott of American Goods Over Iraq War Gains Momentum

2003-03-29 Thread Brian Kelly
On boycotting...simply recommendationto do your best, just keep making biofuel and promote education on renewable, sustainable energies. You will be directly and indirectly cutting financial support for the fossil and nuclear fuel industries that have a strangle hold on many people.

RE: [biofuel] at only 4% of EV system cost

2003-03-29 Thread kirk
How many vehicles are involved in transport of refrigerated items? This would be good to know. In India and other warm places the airconditioning load may provide enough heated gas for up to 30mph. -Original Message- From: Neoteric Biofuels Inc [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Saturday,

Re: [biofuel] diesel cars in the United States?

2003-03-29 Thread murdoch
Thanks the list of specific models is helpful. When I go through the auto trader online it's hard because most of those models have gasoline versions, so I have to figure out how to bring out the diesels to look at on the computer. You can specify fuel, but I'm not sure this doesn't weed out

[biofuel] carfax.com

2003-03-29 Thread murdoch
I might add, to my recent post about my car, that carfax.com has proved to be a good website for research my own and others' vehicles. $20 gets you 60 days' access or something. I'd also like to add that when one looks at TCO (Total Cost of Ownership) of cars, we advocates of various

RE: [biofuel] EU: Boycott of American Goods Over Iraq War Gains Momentum

2003-03-29 Thread Darryl McMahon
Jerry [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: What is wrong with you people?? Good question. I think it is an over-indulged sense that I can make the world a better place. You really think that a boycott would make any difference?? Yes. They have worked before. The trick is to establish a

Re: [biofuel] diesel cars in the United States?

2003-03-29 Thread Darryl McMahon
If you are using the on-line version of the AutoTrader (we have one here anyway), I find it helpful to use diesel as a keyword in the search to go through the candidates quickly. Darryl McMahon To: biofuel@yahoogroups.com From: murdoch [EMAIL PROTECTED]

Re: [biofuel] Global Warming - CO2 from coal, gasoline, diesel fuel

2003-03-29 Thread murdoch
Martin wrote: I don't mean to call whoever a lier, but if you only have one pound of coal to begin with you can't get 3 pounds of CO2 out of it. Conservation of mass comes to mind. You can get more than one pound (mass) of CO2 out of it because you are adding mass (The O2 part) from an

Re: [biofuel] diesel cars in the United States?

2003-03-29 Thread murdoch
On Sat, 29 Mar 2003 14:58:04 -0500, you wrote: If you are using the on-line version of the AutoTrader (we have one here anyway), I find it helpful to use diesel as a keyword in the search to go through the candidates quickly. What link are you using? I am using this place:

Re: [biofuel] Eliminating Truth

2003-03-29 Thread bratt
Maybe your insight could help us to explain what makes George W. Bush tick? http://www.realchange.org/bushjr.htm - Original Message - From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: biofuel@yahoogroups.com Sent: Saturday, March 29, 2003 5:57 AM Subject: Re: [biofuel] Eliminating Truth

Re: [biofuel] diesel cars in the United States?

2003-03-29 Thread Steve Spence
http://search.ebaymotors.com/search/search.dll?MfcISAPICommand=GetResultsit eid=100from=R8s_partnerid=2categorymap=6000category0=6000query=dieselS ortProperty=MetaEndSortebaytag1=ebayreg Steve Spence Subscribe to the Renewable Energy Newsletter Discussion Boards. Read about Sustainable

Re: [biofuel] diesel cars in the United States?

2003-03-29 Thread Craig Pech
Try Mercedes diesels on ebay. You should be able to get a very nice one for under $7000. Craig Anyone have any recommendations about buying a used diesel, so as to implement biodiesel? My gasoline-powered car has been destroyed as it sat parked at the side of the road by a woman who

Re: [biofuel] diesel cars in the United States?

2003-03-29 Thread Craig Pech
Try www.autotrader.com . Use diesel as a keyword. On Sat, 29 Mar 2003 14:58:04 -0500, you wrote: If you are using the on-line version of the AutoTrader (we have one here anyway), I find it helpful to use diesel as a keyword in the search to go through the candidates quickly. What link

Re: [biofuel] diesel cars in the United States?

2003-03-29 Thread Appal Energy
www.traderonline.com truck trader auto trader equipment trader - Original Message - From: murdoch [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: biofuel@yahoogroups.com Sent: Saturday, March 29, 2003 6:33 PM Subject: Re: [biofuel] diesel cars in the United States? On Sat, 29 Mar 2003 14:58:04 -0500, you

Re: [biofuel] diesel cars in the United States?

2003-03-29 Thread Darryl McMahon
Hi Murdoch If you are using the on-line version of the AutoTrader (we have one here anyway), I find it helpful to use diesel as a keyword in the search to go through the candidates quickly. What link are you using? http://www.autotrader.ca Only in Canada. Pity. I am using this place:

Re: [biofuel] Making Vegetable Oil

2003-03-29 Thread Clarence
Thanks Steve, I'll check those out --- Steve Spence [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: www.oilpress.com www.uep.com.ua http://www.idrc.ca/library/document/091017/ plus many more. go to www.google.com and search for vegetable oil expelling Steve Spence Subscribe to the Renewable Energy

Re: [biofuel] Making Vegetable Oil

2003-03-29 Thread Keith Addison
Does anyone know of anywhere I can find information on making vegetable oil itself? The process, etc Clarence Hi Clarence Two ways, pressure extraction and solvent extraction, usually using hexan - this is the commercial method, not for us. On pressure extraction, do a couple of archive

RE: [biofuel] EU: Boycott of American Goods Over Iraq War Gains Momentum

2003-03-29 Thread Keith Addison
Hi Darryl and all Jerry [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: What is wrong with you people?? Good question. I think it is an over-indulged sense that I can make the world a better place. :-) And long may you suffer this no-doubt foolish delusion. Re Exxon Mobil - very good choice, nasty company (the

Re: [biofuel] Eliminating Truth

2003-03-29 Thread Keith Addison
Maybe your insight could help us to explain what makes George W. Bush tick? http://www.realchange.org/bushjr.htm Er, yes. Heh! These below might help too - both sent to me off-list by American list members, just to preclude a whole lot of silly yelling over USA-bashing. The second