[biofuel] Personal Attacks ?

2004-02-25 Thread Bryan Brah
Todd, Now, you've gone over the line. Apparently you're too stupid to understand what I've been saying. I've never advocated not voting. In fact I've repeatedly stated that the ONLY impact we can make is at the local and state levels. It just so happens that local and state elections fall

[biofuel] Processor heating

2004-02-25 Thread j_schearer
x-charset ISO-8859-1I have another question concerning the heating of the waste veg oil before processing. If you heat the oil in a seperate tank, and then pump into the processing tank, what temp is ideal for the reaction to take place? Would I still need to heat the reaction vessel to

Re: [biofuel] Weapons of Mass Deception

2004-02-25 Thread dcande01
AMEN !!! THE FIX IS IN, At this point the winner is Scull and Bones (see the movie, available at rental stores) All the american electorate has left is a protest vote. maybe. Best Regards Fred Anderson On Tuesday, Feb 24, 2004, at 13:13 US/Eastern, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: In a message

[biofuel] some upcoming biodiesel events in California

2004-02-25 Thread girl mark
here are the classes and biodiesel events (mostly in northern California) that I know about in the next few months. There are several more 'in the works' which I don't have exact dates for yet, please keep checking at www.groups.yahoo.com/group/norcal-biodiesel-events for more details. If you

[biofuel] BMW diesel

2004-02-25 Thread pivincent
x-charset ISO-8859-1Anyone have experience with diesel bimmers? I am presently looking at a 1986 E28 TD - any advice would be appreciated. Pierre Yahoo! Groups Sponsor -~-- Buy Ink Cartridges or Refill Kits for your HP, Epson, Canon or Lexmark

Re: [biofuel] vitrious encapsulated spent nuculer fuel pellets

2004-02-25 Thread Dave Williams
bob allen wrote: lets see, first you crack open a few balls, dissolve the mixed metal/oxide fuel in nitric acid, carefully extract the plutonium salts, etc, etc, and viola, an atomic bomb. Just what we need, more atomic bomb material available to all. Wrong kind of metal for that,

[biofuel] Re: Hydrologist concludes: humans must reduce ...

2004-02-25 Thread murdoch
This is not directly to the points you've been making, but it is somewhat related. I've been thinking this: Changing our driving habits, and public transportation habits, and our choices in how close to our destinations we locate our homes and offices, is only one piece in a much larger puzzle.

Re: [biofuel] Re: Hydrologist concludes: humans must reduce ...

2004-02-25 Thread Hakan Falk
MM, I have some data that maybe is interesting in your evaluation, http://energy.saving.nu/buildingcodes/eucode.shtml US is 3 times more than Sweden and Canada 4 times. Hakan At 02:59 25/02/2004, you wrote: This is not directly to the points you've been making, but it is somewhat related.

Re: [biofuel] Re: Hydrologist concludes: humans must reduce ...

2004-02-25 Thread Ken Provost
on 2/24/04 5:59 PM, murdoch at [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I guess I'd just like to get an idea. One way would be to consult an historian of energy. Someone who could give us an estimate of per capita energy use of primitive man, and give us some perspective on comparing that to per capita

Re: [biofuel] Processor heating

2004-02-25 Thread Appal Energy
x-charset ISO-8859-1You can easily insulate a 1/2 pipe using expanded foam pipe sheaths. R-19 fibberglass wrapped with 6 mil visquine will take care of your tank. (Box tape is a wonderful thing, as is duct tape.) Heat to 120*F, transfer and agitate the bejeebers out of it. The reaction will go

Re: [biofuel] Personal Attacks ?

2004-02-25 Thread Appal Energy
x-charset ISO-8859-1Chill dude. You wrote the rules with your complacent woe-is-me-do-nothing-everything-is-evil-there-is-no-point attitude. Don't complain to me for getting tired of hearing it. The world may be in between a rock and a hard place, but there's always a bigger lever laying around.

Re: [biofuel] Biodiesel Quality?

2004-02-25 Thread Appal Energy
x-charset ISO-8859-1Hellow Keith, Yup. Sometimes biodiesel clouds right back up after it's cooled down. Used to see this when we sun dried fuel. Every time the sun went down the fuel clouded back up. I have a feeling that it quickly absorbed as much water from the cooler air upon sunset as it

Re: [biofuel] Re: Hydrologist concludes: humans must reduce ...

2004-02-25 Thread murdoch
On Tue, 24 Feb 2004 18:15:57 -0800, you wrote: on 2/24/04 5:59 PM, murdoch at [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I guess I'd just like to get an idea. One way would be to consult an historian of energy. Someone who could give us an estimate of per capita energy use of primitive man, and give us

Re: [biofuel] Biodiesel Quality?

2004-02-25 Thread pinky 22in
x-charset ISO-8859-1 heating is to get rid of moisture content and also to kill microbes(in case if it is there) inorder to extend the ;life of biodiesel. --- Keith Addison [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: - Why heat it ? Met vriendelijke groeten,

Re: [biofuel] Biodiesel Quality?

2004-02-25 Thread pinky 22in
x-charset ISO-8859-1 hi some people will heat the raw oil to 105 degree b4 transesterification. but u did nt mention that whether you heat the oil b4 transesterification to get rid of the moisture content. also the moisture content depends on the age of oil and nature of storage.

[biofuel] Re: How Bush reversed regulatory effort on polluting gas additive

2004-02-25 Thread amrqq
x-charset ISO-8859-1I realize that, often, the fed govt 'interferes' in state laws-constitutions. The reverse is not true. The wishes of states, are not compelling on the fed gov't. In the matter of MTBE, the US congress(or a fed agency,under congressional direction) has jurisdiction over

Re: [biofuel] Biodiesel Quality?

2004-02-25 Thread Pieter Koole
x-charset ISO-8859-1Questions are never dumb. Met vriendelijke groeten, Pieter Koole The information contained in this message (including attachments) is confidential, and is intended for the addressee(s) only. If you have received this message in error please delete it and notify the

Re: [biofuel] Re: Hydrologist concludes: humans must reduce ...

2004-02-25 Thread Hakan Falk
Biomass use in the world is large and dangerous, not for the climate, but for the people. Visit the Journey to Forever and read about it, if you have not already done so. Small thing like efficient wood stoves and solar cookers, can make a very large difference. Keith and Hidori make a very

Re: [biofuel] Biodiesel Quality?

2004-02-25 Thread RGMTRUCK
In a message dated 02/24/2004 8:07:30 PM Eastern Standard Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: Rick: washer. I wash it with 1/2 the amount of water for 6 to 7 hours and let it sit over night and repeat this 3 times. My last wash water is just about clear and the ph is about 6. No need

Re: [biofuel] Weapons of Mass Deception

2004-02-25 Thread Ted Dinkelman
Doug, I am an American and I agree with you. We have the power and resources to bring peace and harmony to the world but the people in power use it to gain more power. I have made mission trips to Haiti and it sickens me that the world stands by and watches as this poor country struggles

[biofuel] Newbie Q

2004-02-25 Thread bearforu2
x-charset ISO-8859-1Can i just use 50% petro diesel and 50% waste food oil without any processing, aside from filtering the food oil that is? I have a 6.2L gm diesel. Thanks Yahoo! Groups Sponsor -~-- Buy Ink Cartridges or Refill Kits for your

[biofuel] FW: Announcing Fuel Cell 2004

2004-02-25 Thread Bryan Brah
Almost got deleted by my spam filter, but may have some merit. -BRAH -Original Message- From: Fuel Cell magazine [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Tuesday, February 24, 2004 1:46 PM To: Bryan Brah Subject: Announcing Fuel Cell 2004 Texas Wind Power Co [EMAIL PROTECTED]

[biofuel] For Walt Patrick - was Re: Weapons of Mass Deception

2004-02-25 Thread Keith Addison
Walt Patrick wrote: At 04:50 AM 2/25/04 +0900, Keith wrote: Politicians, right and left, lie. That's hardly news, and hardly likely to change unless conditions render them irrelevant. That's why I'm here on this list, to glean information which might help further that goal. It's

[biofuel] PLEASE READ - MODERATOR'S MESSAGE

2004-02-25 Thread Keith Addison
Discussion on this list is free and OPEN. Biofuels is a broad-ranging subject. It's an international list with a very diverse membership from many different cultures and more than a hundred countries, and their views of what is on- or off-topic vary widely. This is the majority view here.

Re: [biofuel] Biodiesel Quality?

2004-02-25 Thread Keith Addison
In a message dated 02/24/2004 8:07:30 PM Eastern Standard Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: Rick: washer. I wash it with 1/2 the amount of water for 6 to 7 hours and let it sit over night and repeat this 3 times. My last wash water is just about clear and the ph is about 6. No

[biofuel] EERE Network News -- 02/25/04

2004-02-25 Thread EERE Network News
A weekly newsletter from the U.S. Department of Energy's (DOE) http://www.eere.energy.gov/Office of Energy Efficiency and Renewable Energy (EERE). February 25, 2004 #newsNews and Events #6699DOE Awards $5 Million to Weatherize Homes in Iowa #6701DOE Launches New Hydrogen Energy Education

Re: [biofuel] Re: Hydrologist concludes: humans must reduce ...

2004-02-25 Thread murdoch
On Wed, 25 Feb 2004 10:40:04 +0100, you wrote: Biomass use in the world is large and dangerous, not for the climate, but for the people. Large and dangerous for the people? I'm sorry, I'm just not understanding the language here. Do you mean that biomass use is adviseable but can be

Re: [biofuel] Re: Hydrologist concludes: humans must reduce ...

2004-02-25 Thread Hakan Falk
MM, To take some samples of info from http://journeytoforever.org/ Millions of women have to spend days/week to find wood for cooking. Millions of children die each year, caused by the smoke from cooking fires. Millions of children die each year from lack of knowledge about water treatment or

[biofuel] Biodiesel (B20) in GTA (Toronto Area)

2004-02-25 Thread slg18
x-charset ISO-8859-1We offer only ASTM and EN standard BioDiesel Map Info: See www.Alternate-NRG.com * Free BioDiesel for the first 50 vehicles, maximum 50 L per fill, pay only for the petrodiesel * Free BioDiesel Driven Bumper Stickers for the first 100 vehicles * BioDiesel Driven baseball

Re: [biofuel] Re: How Bush reversed regulatory effort on polluting gas additive

2004-02-25 Thread Appal Energy
x-charset ISO-8859-1Why do you and others keep finding it necessary to couch your arguments as greens? Is there something abhorently wrong with someone who sees the common sense in environmentally sound policy and practice? There are an arse load of individuals who promote environmental

Re[2]: [biofuel] Weapons of Mass Deception

2004-02-25 Thread Gustl Steiner-Zehender
x-charset ISO-8859-1Hallo Ted, Wednesday, 25 February, 2004, 09:31:54, you wrote: TD Doug, TD I am an American and I agree with you. We have the power and TD resources to bring peace and harmony to the world but the people TD in power use it to gain more power. I have made mission

[biofuel] Weathering the Crisis - World Bank, Pentagon: global warming redalert

2004-02-25 Thread Keith Addison
See: http://www.fortune.com/fortune/technology/articles/0,15114,582584,00.html Fortune.com Climate Collapse: the Pentagon's Weather Nightmare http://observer.guardian.co.uk/international/story/0,6903,1153513,00.html The Observer Now the Pentagon tells Bush: climate change will destroy us

[biofuel] The Corporate Stooges who Nobble Serious Science

2004-02-25 Thread Keith Addison
x-charset ISO-8859-1http://www.commondreams.org/views04/0224-04.htm Published on Tuesday, February 24, 2004 by the Guardian/UK The Corporate Stooges who Nobble Serious Science by George Monbiot Pity Andrew Wakefield. The doctor who suggested that there might be a link between the MMR vaccine

[biofuel] Pentagon downplays report on climate change that it commissioned

2004-02-25 Thread Keith Addison
According to Britain's The Observer, US military officials censored an alarming report because the issue of global warming could wind up thrust into the US presidential campaign ahead of the November vote. - http://story.news.yahoo.com/news?tmpl=storycid=1520ncid=1520e=17u=

Re: [biofuel] Re: Hydrologist concludes: humans must reduce ...

2004-02-25 Thread Keith Addison
Hi Hakan, MM Thankyou, Hakan. MM, for what Hakan said about biomass use, see: http://journeytoforever.org/at_woodfire.html Wood fires that fit - Appropriate technology: Journey to Forever There is actually a Credo at our site: Credo These are the principles that guide Journey to Forever: *

[biofuel] Open the Debates

2004-02-25 Thread Keith Addison
Could this perhaps be a way to draw some effective attention to what many list members say is missing from the US energy debate? ... uh, is there a US energy debate? Well anyway, from energy policy, as such. See what Nader's nephew suggests. - Keith

[biofuel] Can i use 50/50

2004-02-25 Thread bearforu2
x-charset ISO-8859-1Can i use half petrol diesel and half food waste oil? do i need to mix them first? I would filter the biowaste of course. The pure biodiesel seems like a lot of work and the use of a lot of toxic chemical to make enough to drive on. Thanks Biofuel at Journey to

Re: [biofuel] Biodiesel (B20) in GTA (Toronto Area)

2004-02-25 Thread mark manchester
Yipee! We will be skipping to visit you March 2. Jesse From: slg18 [EMAIL PROTECTED] Reply-To: biofuel@yahoogroups.com Date: Wed, 25 Feb 2004 18:43:41 - To: biofuel@yahoogroups.com Subject: [biofuel] Biodiesel (B20) in GTA (Toronto Area) We offer only ASTM and EN standard BioDiesel Map