I googled ethanol faq, visited this group's archives along with JtF
webpage. In the event the answer to may question was there I evidently
scrolling by it. ethanol is hoped to be the savior of the family farm
here in Western Kansas. Recently a letter to the editor made some
claims of how
While it's not that important, I wasn't who asked ...how do we empower
those with decent character??. I didn't used the word character. What I
did write was in the end it all depends on, the character of those in
power. I wasn't trying to define decent character??, just commenting
it depends
Just more evidence of the engagement of moral ambiguity of too many of
the faithful in my country. sigh
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in an artificial manner.
And unless some fool discovers perpetual energy and gives modern man
that (then we can give up hope) we will soon learn where we left off.
But as some say lets not rest until we have released every carbon atom
into air.
My best,
Jim
Doug Younker wrote
Hi,
I'm not so sure if the following would even be possible;
6) No private land ownership, however a system that puts people on the
land for prosperity in agriculture through ley and organic means.
In the county in which I live there would be enough decent property to
allow every now
Doug, N0LKK
Kansas USA
Keith Addison wrote:
Why?
Why what? :) One meaning of prosper would be, the ability provide for
basic, of basic needs. Why wouldn't there be enough decent property to
allow all current households in my county to prosper by agricultural
means? There just isn't.
progression in an artificial manner.
And unless some fool discovers perpetual energy and gives modern man
that (then we can give up hope) we will soon learn where we left off.
But as some say lets not rest until we have released every carbon atom
into air.
My best,
Jim
Doug Younker wrote
For quite sometime I have felt the fairest way to charge for internet
access, by the amount of data the internet transports on behalf of the user.
That would crimp the style of commercial email, cause some to rethink their
need to send cutesy html formatted email and large attachments to
OK, I'm trying too see if I can duck fast enough :) Don't bother learning
untill, we see where that not so always moral majority inserts, a
reference to God. They missed doing so during the Red Scare of the '50s,
perhaps they will remedy it during the Terror Scare?
Doug, N0LKK
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I'm going to have to confess ignorance here. Can anyone one point me to any
examples of machinery rendered useless due to safety considerations? I
can't put my hands on any data at the moment, but I'm fairly confident that
the desire for more wealth and power, by the already wealthy and
Well a quick trip to http://www.snopes.com/business/genius/spacepen.asp
reveals, that using pencils, is a possible hazard, but where used during
Mercury Gemini. NASA did buy 400 super pens, at the high cost of $2.95
each.
Doug
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I do recall the movie The Day After. Prior to that I hadn't thought of any
oh crap reaction of people witness to the launch of ICBMs, understanding,
that incoming will be soon on their way. I have no doubt, in the event of
nuclear war, the grinding collapse of society may be inevitable. I feel
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Sent: Friday, January 13, 2006 9:57 PM
Subject: Re: [Biofuel] Fwd: [lost-arts] Help Stop the USDA
And the rationale behind this? At least the official rationale?
I can think of one. How about
Actually Kansas has been taxing alternate fuel vehicles for years. Those
who use propane have to pay yearly based on an estimated miles to be driven
and are issued a windshield sticker.
Doug
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I caught a piece of
Michael- in that context, the anarchists belief they wouldn't be trampled
under foot under anarchy, I would have to agree. Sorry if I missed
something out of turn. After this, this will be dead topic for me.
Doug
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To: Biofuel@sustainablelists.org
Sent:
.
jh
Doug Younker wrote:
What can I say, John? Both statistics and observations are both too
malleable. This could become perceived myth versus perceived myth,
judging
others by what they drive and where we can't fully know what drove their
decision, I really don't want to go
Earl,
Impossible for the lone individual to protect their own basic rights.
Recognition of that is way we attempt the rule of law. There is socialism
and there are social programs, they aren't the same thing. The radical right
is depending on a sufficient number of persons not understanding
I would have to guess that was intended as sarcasm. However across the USA
you could read similar editorial opinions and letters to the editor and they
ARE serious. Scary really.
Doug
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I can see the future now. A Kansas National Guard Helo following a small
creek with soldiers peering down with binoculars. They are no longer
looking for wacky tobacky, but the subversive gardener or farmer using
heritage seeds.
Doug
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Perhaps Jeremy was thinking of platinum as used in catalytic heaters?
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Sorry to hear of your loss Hakan. I have had items taken from vehicles on
two occasions, but those pale in comparison to your experience. I hope you
don't experience further problems due to the left and things normalize soon.
To the extent that's possible anyway.
Doug
Well.. I would have to think a 22 MPG SUV is a step above the 13-16 MPG SUV
of 25 to 30 years ago. As long as families continue to have 3, 4 or more
kids, with some of them being 6 foot giants the demand, for larger vehicles
isn't going to subside soon. Shoot it's going to be difficult enough to
Respectfully; Have to? AFAIK there are still grain varieties that allow
producers to save grain from the current crop to plant the next crop. As
well as heritage fruits and vegetables, that can go year to year,
generation to generation. Perhaps from the standpoint of production numbers
and cash
That or simply stating the belief that, God did shed, his grace on America.
In the event that make Americans guilty of pride, I'll let others figure
out.
Doug, N0LKK
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From: Greg and April [EMAIL PROTECTED]
To: Biofuel@sustainablelists.org
Sent: Monday, August 08, 2005
Rattlesnakes do strike without provocation, I just don't want them around,
but I don't go out of my way to seek them out to hunt them down. I would
rather the bull snakes handle the rodent population.
Doug
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From: Garth Kim Travis [EMAIL PROTECTED]
To:
Just realized I posted with a banned subject line. Where it had little to
do with chain letter, I should have changed the subject line to better
reflect the content. Can only hope Keith is in an easy mood today. Anyway
anything with [Biofuel] guns in the subject field is ruled to be deleted,
Forgive me for being so dense lately Keith. I took you to say the
discussion of firearm regulations was to cease and was off limits in the
future. Do you also mean we aren't suppose to comment on our own firearm
ownership/use? Not that I really mind if that's the case, but it's so easy
to find
While, I'm thinking out of the salvage yard, not off the shelf, but would
Automotive A/C condensers work? Perhaps the process would be too corrosive
to the aluminum, I don't know. Just blurting out what came to mind, sorry.
Doug
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Hi Peter,
I have to agree the future is frightening. Corporatism is here, has
been here for quite some time, I don't see USA legislators tackling the
problem in favor of both the Ag. producer and the consumer of Ag. production
or the courts ruling in favor of the growers. The same USA
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From: rich [EMAIL PROTECTED]
To: Biofuel@sustainablelists.org
Sent: Tuesday, August 09, 2005 12:14 PM
Subject: Re: [Biofuel] Seed terrorism
Potential solution: Maybe create a non-proprietary seed bank?
Hi Rich- I believe grass roots seed banks and seed exchanges
% while large station
wagons dropped from 0.5% to 0. SUVs are far more popular today than
station wagons were before CAFE.
from pg 19 http://www.nhtsa.dot.gov/cars/rules/cafe/docs/162944_web.pdf
jh
Doug Younker wrote:
Well.. I would have to think a 22 MPG SUV is a step above the 13-16 MPG
Thanks for the review Hal. Seems like no library in Kansas has the sunshine
to dollars, I tried to find a copy through the interlibrary loan.
Doug
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From: hal [EMAIL PROTECTED]
To: Biofuel@sustainablelists.org
Sent: Friday, August 05, 2005 9:23 PM
Subject: [Biofuel]
Well... that email forward is older than and about as silly as both the blue
and the red state email forwards. Generally a shovel id enough to take care
of rattlesnakes. I used to keep a 12 gauge single shot snake gun in my
personal pick up. I used to go to Wichita, KS quite often. After
Criminals, are just that, criminals. While we read humorous accounts of
mistakes made by the dumbest of the lot, but as group they would have the
average intelligence as society as a whole when it comes to personal
survival. I had figured at some point they would adopt a shoot first Method
of
That was my though as well Mike. More there to make me skeptical than
willing to part with dollars. While we are on book reviews anyone buy or
have read sunshine to dollars
http://www.knowledgepublications.com/kp_sunshinetodollars_ebook1.htm , again
perhaps most of the info in the book may be
Thanks Bob -the procedure you outlined is what I recall. The only mixing
that I ever have done regularly is to mix 25 gallons of acetic acid to 840
gallons of brine. Where the actual introduction took place in the bottom of
a tank, I was far removed from any reaction that occurred.
Doug, N0LKK
Michael- I know that I'm not the first to say it, but I have to agree with
those who point out the following; Some demonize another so they can excuse
their own wrong doings in their own minds. Generally I find it a waste of
time to respond, because they aren't interested in hearing what others
: bob allen [EMAIL PROTECTED]
To: Biofuel@sustainablelists.org
Sent: Wednesday, August 03, 2005 10:18 AM
Subject: Re: [Biofuel] sulphuric (sulfuric) acid in UK
making pickles?
Doug Younker wrote:
Thanks Bob -the procedure you outlined is what I recall. The only
mixing
that I ever have done
There are some basic rules for handling and mixing acid, can anyone point to
a tutorial of FAQ on the web, someon can point us to? The only thing I
recall is you do not add water to acid (violent reaction), you add acid to
water. Your battery man told you the opposite so my recollection may be
Ya know I still have to run across evidence that the Redneck faithful any
less cafeteria Christians, Jews and Muslims than the faithful residing in
the blue states are.
Doug, N0LKK
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Sent: Sunday, July 31, 2005
Oh- that's whose behind those TV ads that are somehow to justify the selling
of that addictive drug called nicotine. The reason Mr. Camilleri is
smiling, he is assured that no one will call him out, in a meaningful way.
Doug
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From: Alt.EnergyNetwork [EMAIL PROTECTED]
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Sent: Thursday, July 28, 2005 3:02 AM
Subject: [Biofuel] U.S., five Asian nations agree to push technology to
fightclimate change
:
:
:
: Bush sees the light??
Not really, IMO. In the
Yeah... but what happens when a tornado finds 15,000 feet of cable suspended
in the air, Keith? would all that cable such the life out of the tornado or
will the tornado take the cable and move across the countryside swinging the
cable like a monster string trimmer? :) Anyway as another pointed
Thanks for posting Keith, interesting to read from the technical, not that
there are a lot of DYI details, side of things and from how the author
speaks of those persons who built them; This much is certain, that they are
put up by our best citizens, and not by the worst, and by a stable, and not
But even at that the next question becomes; will the tower or mast survive?
Sooner or later the machinery near Montezuma, KS may answer the question.
Even guyed communication towers fall victim to the lesser F rated tornados.
Doug, N0LKK
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To:
As was/is the attack on the USS Cole called a terrorist attack. terrorist
attack just more words now used to apply spin, as much as they are used
in, their originally understood meaning.
Doug
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From: Hakan Falk [EMAIL PROTECTED]
To: Biofuel@sustainablelists.org
Sent: Saturday, July 09, 2005 11:32 PM
Subject: Re: [Biofuel] It's imperialism, stupid- limbaugh
:
: Doug,
:
: Amazing.
:
: Hitler would have been a guaranteed success as American talk show host.
:
Prior to yesterday I hadn't heard of the Direct Democracy League, but I
found this http://www.ddleague-usa.net/ . They have a lot of material to
digest and to be able to do so one had better had retained their history
lessons or accept the DDL's accounting of history. With my brief look I
Hakan,
Rush Limbaugh represents the views of a substantial number of Americans,
enough that we have the president and legislator we have today. Another
broadcast celebrity here in America is Paul Harvey and some recent remarks
by him advocating slavery, genocide and the use of nuclear and
While I understand it's impossible to know what would have happened what
if, I do allow myself to ponder what the course of events may have been
if, GWB had chosen to continue what Clinton was doing in regards to
terrorist activities, instead of reversing course. When Clinton walked out
of the
Buying one in Canada is one thing, but getting it registered in the State
you plan to live may be whole new game.
Doug, N0LKK
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* Restrictions apply: see the PATRIOT act for details.
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From: robert luis rabello [EMAIL
Respectfully, we don't need technology? I though technology is what's
driving the development of biofuels and other renewable energy. Not that
I'm keen on nuclear or dismiss conservation, AKA, behavior change. Any
investment in resource by GWB is a waste of money given his history as a
leader,
Where I can buy E-10 the price is always a penny higher per gallon than
regular. I buy it because my old truck runs a lot better on it.
Doug
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I will also buy a large supply of plugs
and go around the world plugging the cracks in the earth that leak
the equivalent of TWO Exxon Valdeese tankers of oil into the sea
every day. I now see that this is killing the world.
Farmer Paul
Sorry if I'm taking the above out of context, but the
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From: Dave Brockes [EMAIL PROTECTED]
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Wednesday, March 23, 2005 10:55 PM
Subject: Re: [Biofuel] wind powered water pumps
: How about for something much larger? On the scale of maybe 4-5 million
acre
: feet per year? Any thoughts?
:
Kim,
What do you have in mind, the common everyday windmill or something
else? In the event it's the standard windmill I'm surprised you didn't
find anything on them. I would think a trip to
http://www.yoderswindmillservice.com/ should start answering all of your
questions. Then try
Interesting still cap and unused wells? That puts a kink in John H.'s
statement This idea that we are somehow using up their oil now while
saving our oil for a later date is flawed. The oil will flow to the
highest bidder, period. statement. I really doubt the existence of such
wells unless the
I always figured that the smarter move security wise for the USA was to
purchase our petroleum needs from others as long as they willing to sell it
and we afford it, saving our reserves for future use. The promotion of
conservation would be a wise security move as well, I agree. Silly me the
It work well with MS IE, so in my case modify that to say no *additional* HD
space. :)
Doug
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From: Guag Meister [EMAIL PROTECTED]
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Thursday, March 10, 2005 3:33 AM
Subject: Re: [Biofuel] circuit simulator
: Hi All ;
:
: AND it doesn't
Hi John,
I'm drawing a blank wherever I look, what is a patical dish, please?
The valves in engines designed with durability in mind already rotate, but I
wouldn't know if they would have the force required to rotate this valve you
mention. Thanks...
Doug, N0LKK
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What is
Far out. A time saver for those who can make practical use of it, but a
time waster for those of us who will use it to see what if, with no plan in
mind. Any it's bookmarked here, thanks for the effort and sharing.
Doug
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To: [EMAIL
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From: info [EMAIL PROTECTED]
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Wednesday, March 09, 2005 9:29 PM
Subject: Re: [Biofuel] circuit simulator
Just as a time saver in trying out new ideas, collecting circuit data, scope
shots, it does the job quite well with no fuss and its
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From: Erik Lane [EMAIL PROTECTED]
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Wednesday, March 09, 2005 3:20 AM
Subject: Re: [Biofuel] Bad news for Diesel driver
: I don't believe that with the high compressions required of a diesel
: engine it is possible to have a
I think there has to be more than meets the eye on such a conversion.
Propane is stored a liquid and I assume methane is as well. Can the propane
tanks withstand the pressure required to liquefy methane? Propane contains
more energy than methane, will you realize a net savings? In any event I
Fair? Maybe, Phillip, but is it practical and applicable? Not to overwhelm
the natural resources over the generations, something had to keep the human
population in check. What where those events and are they something modern
day man would accept? Sounding like a stuck record, there is a
Hi,
Here is how my simple mind sees the situation. Unless a drastic event
take place to grossly reduce the human population, humans concentrated in
cities will remain a fact. As long as humans desire to consume animals for
food the concentration of animals will remain a fact as well. Even
Why all the acting like engine damage due to a timing chain or belt failure
is something new, when this possibility has been around for quite some time?
Longer than the 25 years indicated The risk is born from pushing the
envelope, so to speak, to get the best possible performance from an
Hi,
I can't recall the following URL mention in previous threads on this
topic, please excuse me if it's old information.
http://sleekfreak.ath.cx:81/3wdev/VITAHTML/SUBLEV/EN1/EVAPCOOL.HTM
Doug, N0LKK
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I'm a life long Resident of Plainville, KS. With due respect to Mr. Sears,
while there may be no direct catch to the free land offer and the tax
abatement, there is catch to moving to Plainville and Rooks county. The
catch is when you move your family here you face the same bleak employment
Well yes the rub is in defining rural. My point is you don't have to drive
very far out of town to find the very same things that where being used to
paint urban as somehow more evil than rural. The second point was that
there is not enough viable real-estate available for every family have
Kim,
I think is to be about scale. For example Plainville has very few lots
to give away. While the land is free the requirements to be meet will take
an investment and hopefully should keep the, less than serious at bay. That
is not to say Plainville doesn't already have it's stoners and
Hi,
Frankly I'm glad there are those who desire are willing to live in the
cities, there is not enough real estate available to spread us all out in
that mythical bucolic rural setting. I can only hope those who are able to
by choice to live and work in a rural area appreciate the luxury,
Hi,
I really find it hard to believe that a sufficient number of alternate
fueled cars have replaced gas or diesel, to impact tax revenues. My guess
is that the higher fuel prices have caused many to cut out non-essential
driving. Taxing those who us alternate fuels has been going one for
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From: Legal Eagle [EMAIL PROTECTED]
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Tuesday, February 15, 2005 4:07 PM
Subject: Re: [Biofuel] Our Godless Constitution
: G'day Ken;
: Nice of you to denigrate CHRISTians like that . We are not X anything
: thank you very much. Either
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From: robert luis rabello [EMAIL PROTECTED]
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Tuesday, February 15, 2005 9:40 PM
Subject: Re: [Biofuel] Our Godless Constitution
:
: Allens article is filled with so many half truths that it would take
: a book to deal with them adequately.
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From: Kirk McLoren [EMAIL PROTECTED]
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
: Noahide or Noachide law is actually Jewish although
: some Christians apparently want to practice Judaism.
:
: I'm afraid it will only get worse at least for a time.
:
: Kirk
*
Well there is no profit
Some years ago While I was repairing a motor control one an oil well
pumping unit. Along comes a Kansas game warden and he got out of his
vehicle and struck up a conversation, being who I am I engage in the
conversation not thinking about it. Soon it became apparent the jerk was
trying to
Keith; It would seem I interpreted the guidelines too strictly. Mike; I
think it's fairly obvious that I don't shy from posting my opinion. I
hesitated on that one post because of my feeling, be it online or in the
real world, it's in poor taste to point out a non-technical error in public.
Mike; the text below is new to me however, everything between it and the
J.E.Krafka signature regularly makes a round in email forwards, Sorry to
say. Visit http://www.snopes.com/politics/taxes/pensions.asp
Doug
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From: Anti-Fossil [EMAIL PROTECTED]
To: [EMAIL
I read your other post where it you said this after mine was on it's way.
I'll check it out whenever I get a digital camera. As far as I know there
is no camera enforce traffic laws in my area. Thanks
Doug
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From: Kirk McLoren [EMAIL PROTECTED]
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
While this statement isn't original, but remember America is a country of
immigrants. A good many of those immigrants where steeped in American
mythology long before the immigrated and that mythology could have been
their impetus to immigrate. Some of the traits we Americans may have are
rooted
Mike; glad to hear you read my response mostly in the light I sent it in, to
inform not embarrass. I really hesitated about clicking on send. This is
way I don't care for the prohibition of emailing other list members
off-list, there are times it is warranted.
Doug
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From: Ray J [EMAIL PROTECTED]
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Sent: Monday, February 07, 2005 4:56 PM
Subject: Re: [Biofuel] Automotive Black Box
:
: I have done this with my own car with amateur radio equipment and a
: gps... its so easy its scary...
:
: Ray J
But then we
passwhich many people may mistake for cameras...
:
: Ray
:
: Doug Younker wrote:
:
: Well... Cameras are used to control traffic signals. This is not to say
: they couldn't have dual or even multiple purpose uses. What isn't funny
is
: how petty thieves will screw up a good thing and end up
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From: Kirk McLoren [EMAIL PROTECTED]
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Sunday, February 06, 2005 6:06 PM
Subject: Re: [Biofuel] Automotive Black Box
:
: That is because the loop is only that long and old data is written over.
There is no reason max values cannot be
Well... Cameras are used to control traffic signals. This is not to say
they couldn't have dual or even multiple purpose uses. What isn't funny is
how petty thieves will screw up a good thing and end up paying more. Doug
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To:
I did view the NOW program on this topic, Demian is correct Bill Moyers is
only the messenger in his Star Tribune article. I wished Moyers would have
spoke more on the point that very few members of the mainstream Christian
denominations share the radicalism of the Evangelicals, perhaps the
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From: Keith Addison [EMAIL PROTECTED]
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Thursday, February 03, 2005 12:36 PM
Subject: Re: [Biofuel] Is It Time For A Corporate Death Penalty Act?
: Hello Doug
:
: I guess you win the prize! Only there isn't a prize, sorry about that. :-(
Attorneys for corporations routinely use the courts in an attempt to get
another to pay their obligations, in doing so they can be as fraudulent as
those in the persons in the examples you cited. The chances are very slim
that tort reform that could curtail you and I will not apply to the
Keith,
After I read the details of that case, the case actually illustrates why
we should not embrace tort reform. There was no reasonable expectation the
coffee would have causes burns to the degree that it did. The industry knew
that where serving coffee at temperature that could injure
John, thank you for pointing me to long lost, to me, web pages. In the
local oil field both the rotary (idler) and capacitor phase converters are
used. The one I had to work with most was the capacitor type with the
capacitor banks in the same enclosure as the rest of the motor control
Phillip; I am curious as to what you are referring to as an orphan gas
station? Under ground tanks where what and laws concerning them are, what
shut down many service stations in the USA. I would think to re-open those
stations to retail biofuels the storage will have to be brought up to
As a volunteer for the local ARC chapter I'm unaware of any RC programs that
plan to use the skills mentioned. I would suggest first contacting the
peace corps http://www.peacecorps.gov/ . Many missionary groups may put his
skills to use. In the event one has no particular faith they may
Hi,
Having been a board member of non-profit organizations I'm very well
aware of the benefits of being a non-profit. The point I failed to get
across was. In the event it's permissible to, piggy back so to speak on
the back of another non-profit, why would another organization go through
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From: Keith Addison [EMAIL PROTECTED]
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Thursday, December 16, 2004 6:30 AM
Subject: Re[2]: [Biofuel] Martin's Job
:
: Us aside, I don't think it's fair to avoid donating to worthy causes,
: especially small ones, which might not have
I kinda figure Monsanto et. al. prefer it milled and not planted as well. Or
would they want it planted so they could try to extract blood from a turnip
in patent lawsuits?
Doug, N0LKK
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E Pluribus Unum
Motto of the USA since 1776
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From: Chris Lloyd
Hi,
I had something similar to that, still have the tank but, the under
carriage was liberated for another project. My 500 G. tank was used as an
overhead diesel storage tank on a farm and was bought at an auction,
probably less than $100 in the entire project. Problem with those farm
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To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Sunday, November 14, 2004 11:43 PM
Subject: [Biofuel] US Solar Photovoltaics
: It's All About the Benjamins
More to the point, it's about WHO is getting the Benjamins.
Doug
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Entertaining but, respectfully I doubt I will be hearing it sung on the
radio.
Doug
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From: Legal Eagle [EMAIL PROTECTED]
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Saturday, November 13, 2004 6:00 AM
Subject: Re: [Biofuel] Just found this bit of diesel humor...
: Mark Shilling is
Gee, When did scientific, social and political debate become not worthy
as being a legitimate legal dispute? I'm no attorney but, I just hope the
plaintiffs have current evidence that the GB has contaminated non-GM crops.
With out that the lawsuit is already dead and with it a reasonable judge
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