Re: [Biofuel] seasonal burning

2006-06-11 Thread A. Lawrence
The surest sign that there is other intelligent life out here is that fact that it hasn't stopped to see what we're up to... - Original Message - From: Jason Katie [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: biofuel@sustainablelists.org Sent: Saturday, June 10, 2006 8:20 PM Subject: Re: [Biofuel] seasonal

Re: [Biofuel] seasonal burning

2006-06-11 Thread Keith Addison
/0609-08.htm Published on Friday, June 9, 2006 by OneWorld.net Bolton's Threats Raise Fears of UN Shut-Down Best Keith - Original Message - From: Keith Addison [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: biofuel@sustainablelists.org Sent: Saturday, June 10, 2006 9:23 PM Subject: Re: [Biofuel] seasonal burning

Re: [Biofuel] seasonal burning

2006-06-10 Thread E. C.
Doug; your meaning was crystal clear to me, i am an English major (more precisely, was, since i never followed the career path i trained for in college). In point of fact, your response said what i tried to, but more succinctly to the point. Kudos. :-)~ Kirk; I looked back in my archived

Re: [Biofuel] seasonal burning

2006-06-10 Thread Kirk McLoren
You might like http://www.raelianews.org/news.php?extend.128"E. C." [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Doug;your meaning was crystal clear to me, i am anEnglish major (more precisely, was, since i neverfollowed the career path i trained for in college). In point of fact, your response said what i

Re: [Biofuel] seasonal burning

2006-06-10 Thread Doug Younker
Allen, I never felt Kirk's reply nit-picking, I was just a bit confused. Anyway ET rarely enters my though process, unless someone brings it up. I would be surprised if ET does exist, nor will I be disappointed if I go to my grave not knowing the answer. I have no speculation if

Re: [Biofuel] seasonal burning

2006-06-10 Thread Keith Addison
Kirk wrote: You might like http://www.raelianews.org/news.php?extend.128 Please keep this intelligent design BS off the list. It has been thoroughly debunked and can contribute nothing but confusion. If we now have to debunk it all over again I won't be amused. Thankyou. Keith Addison

Re: [Biofuel] seasonal burning

2006-06-10 Thread Keith Addison
Doug; your meaning was crystal clear to me, i am an English major (more precisely, was, since i never followed the career path i trained for in college). In point of fact, your response said what i tried to, but more succinctly to the point. Kudos. :-)~ Kirk; I looked back in my archived

Re: [Biofuel] seasonal burning

2006-06-10 Thread Jason Katie
] seasonal burning Kirk wrote: You might like http://www.raelianews.org/news.php?extend.128 Please keep this intelligent design BS off the list. It has been thoroughly debunked and can contribute nothing but confusion. If we now have to debunk it all over again I won't be amused. Thankyou

Re: [Biofuel] seasonal burning

2006-06-10 Thread Jason Katie
ET is ET until they actually come down here and say Hi. when or if they do i will put some thought to it, but only then. - Original Message - From: Doug Younker [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: biofuel@sustainablelists.org Sent: Saturday, June 10, 2006 6:19 PM Subject: Re: [Biofuel] seasonal

Re: [Biofuel] seasonal burning

2006-06-07 Thread Lugano Wilson
thanks. unfortunately, here is the reply from the link: Forbidden You don't have permission to access /pubs/crossref/2000/1999JD901113.shtml on this server. Your browser currently has the FunWebProducts plugin, which is not allowed at this site. To remove this from your system, please

Re: [Biofuel] seasonal burning

2006-06-06 Thread Kirk McLoren
Interesting that you dont see man as part of earth's evolution. Are we ETs? KirkDoug Younker [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Keith Addison suggested that this discussion topic is an annual as the burning of topic, I just can't recall that, or if my following comments may have been said by others.

Re: [Biofuel] seasonal burning

2006-06-06 Thread Sarath G
For those interested in some data on biomass (forest and savanna burning).. here is a paper.. http://www.agu.org/pubs/crossref/2000/1999JD901113.shtml I believe a lot more is available on the web.. Sarath On 6/4/06, robert and benita rabello [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Kirk McLoren wrote:Evenalong

Re: [Biofuel] seasonal burning

2006-06-06 Thread Doug Younker
Kirk, The reason I bothered to post was to detail why I believe seasonal burning, while it may have apparent benefits, is not natural, as practiced by man. I would think the last sentence of mine; Personally I think man has interfered enough, long enough, we can't fully understand the

Re: [Biofuel] seasonal burning

2006-06-05 Thread Joe Street
We have a type of tree here in Canada called Jack pine. I don't know if it grows in other places. You can recognize it because the needles are about half the length of red pine and a little shorter than white pine but the really distinguishing characteristic is the cones which are smallish

Re: [Biofuel] seasonal burning

2006-06-05 Thread Doug Younker
Keith Addison suggested that this discussion topic is an annual as the burning of topic, I just can't recall that, or if my following comments may have been said by others. Like Keith and others, I have observed that fire can be beneficial for the prairie, but those same observations also

Re: [Biofuel] seasonal burning

2006-06-04 Thread E. C.
[EMAIL PROTECTED] Reply-To: biofuel@sustainablelists.org Date: Sat, 3 Jun 2006 20:30:54 -0700 (PDT) To: biofuel@sustainablelists.org Subject: Re: [Biofuel] seasonal burning The really sad thing about stopping the burns - in fact the native Americans used to do burns- was the filling

Re: [Biofuel] seasonal burning

2006-06-04 Thread Kirk McLoren
t;[EMAIL PROTECTED]>wrote: I feel this is wrong thinking also. The California Condor population deserves respect too. Jesse From: Kirk McLoren <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Reply-To: biofuel@sustainablelists.org Date: Sat, 3 Jun 2006 20:30:54 -0700 (PDT) To: biofuel@sustainablelists.org Subject: Re: [

Re: [Biofuel] seasonal burning

2006-06-04 Thread robert and benita rabello
Kirk McLoren wrote: Not so miniscule The native American name for where Los Angeles is now was Valley of the smokes But that's not because they were engaged in wholesale burning, but because the subtropical inversion, off-gassing native plant life, petroleum offgassing, surrounding

Re: [Biofuel] seasonal burning

2006-06-04 Thread E. C.
: Sat, 3 Jun 2006 20:30:54 -0700 (PDT) To: biofuel@sustainablelists.org Subject: Re: [Biofuel] seasonal burning The really sad thing about stopping the burns - in fact the native Americans used to do burns- was the filling of whole areas with brush that used to have grass

Re: [Biofuel] seasonal burning

2006-06-04 Thread E. C.
Thank you, Robert (or Benita) Your response came in (here) as I was writing mine. As usual, yours is more complete and authoritative than my poor efforts -- but we reached the same conclusions. Namaste, Allen (E. Allen C.) --- robert and benita rabello [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Kirk McLoren

Re: [Biofuel] seasonal burning

2006-06-04 Thread robert and benita rabello
E. C. wrote: Thank you, Robert (or Benita) It's robert! My sweetheart has little interest in the topics we discuss here, although she found Mike Weaver's appeal for help a few days ago VERY funny. Your response came in (here) as I was writing mine. As usual, yours is more complete

Re: [Biofuel] seasonal burning

2006-06-04 Thread Keith Addison
respect too. Jesse From: Kirk McLoren [EMAIL PROTECTED] Reply-To: biofuel@sustainablelists.org Date: Sat, 3 Jun 2006 20:30:54 -0700 (PDT) To: biofuel@sustainablelists.org Subject: Re: [Biofuel] seasonal burning The really sad thing about stopping the burns - in fact the native

Re: [Biofuel] seasonal burning

2006-06-04 Thread Kirk McLoren
ng also. The California Condor population deserves respect too. JesseFrom: Kirk McLoren Reply-To: biofuel@sustainablelists.org Date: Sat, 3 Jun 2006 20:30:54 -0700 (PDT) To: biofuel@sustainablelists.org Subject: Re: [Biofuel] seasonal burning The really sad thing about stopping the burns -

Re: [Biofuel] seasonal burning

2006-06-04 Thread Keith Addison
feel this is wrong thinking also. The California Condor population deserves respect too. Jesse From: Kirk McLoren Reply-To: biofuel@sustainablelists.org Date: Sat, 3 Jun 2006 20:30:54 -0700 (PDT) To: biofuel@sustainablelists.org Subject: Re: [Biofuel] seasonal burning

Re: [Biofuel] seasonal burning

2006-06-03 Thread Ken Riznyk
I say let everything burn. Why should rescuers risk their lives for idiots who build their houses in wild fire areas, flood plains, 8 feet below sea level, near earthquake faults or on the coast in hurricane prone areas? Ken --- Jason Katie [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: as i sit here watching a

Re: [Biofuel] seasonal burning

2006-06-03 Thread mark manchester
@sustainablelists.org Date: Sat, 3 Jun 2006 13:29:40 -0700 (PDT) To: biofuel@sustainablelists.org Subject: Re: [Biofuel] seasonal burning I say let everything burn. Why should rescuers risk their lives for idiots who build their houses in wild fire areas, flood plains, 8 feet below sea level, near earthquake

Re: [Biofuel] seasonal burning

2006-06-03 Thread Keith Addison
I say let everything burn. Why should rescuers risk their lives for idiots who build their houses in wild fire areas, flood plains, 8 feet below sea level, near earthquake faults or on the coast in hurricane prone areas? Or anywhere? After all Planet Earth has a broken climate, it's warming up

Re: [Biofuel] seasonal burning

2006-06-03 Thread Kirk McLoren
The really sad thing about stopping the burns - in fact the native Americans used to do burns- was the filling of whole areas with brush that used to have grass, The California Condor population was decimated by the brush. They could not take off near brush and hunting grounds disappeared.

Re: [Biofuel] seasonal burning

2006-06-03 Thread mark manchester
Title: Re: [Biofuel] seasonal burning I feel this is wrong thinking also. The California Condor population deserves respect too. Jesse From: Kirk McLoren [EMAIL PROTECTED] Reply-To: biofuel@sustainablelists.org Date: Sat, 3 Jun 2006 20:30:54 -0700 (PDT) To: biofuel@sustainablelists.org Subject

[Biofuel] seasonal burning

2006-06-02 Thread Jason Katie
as i sit here watching a show on wildfires in california, i wonder- how many years did the natural fire cycle have to be stamped out to create these conditions? and why, if people are so worried about it, dont the fire departments institute controlled burns in less favorable conditions so they