Re: [Biofuel] Fascists at it again

2008-05-28 Thread Kurt Schasker
, environmentalism, and on and on. These are ideals that suffer greatly under islamofascism. Kurt Date: Tue, 27 May 2008 10:30:56 -0700 From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: sustainablelorgbiofuel@sustainablelists.org Subject: Re: [Biofuel] Fascists at it again modern? see Roman symbol http

Re: [Biofuel] Fascists at it again

2008-05-28 Thread Keith Addison
the people you say you're replying to actually said. Here are the originals, just for the record: http://www.mail-archive.com/sustainablelorgbiofuel@sustainablelists.org/msg72690.html 2008/05/27 Re: [Biofuel] Fascists at it again Chris Burck http://www.mail-archive.com/sustainablelorgbiofuel

Re: [Biofuel] Fascists at it again

2008-05-27 Thread Chris Burck
in the Quran, however, as practiced, Sharia law seems at great odds with any form of freedom that westerners are accustomed to. Date: Wed, 7 May 2008 06:14:49 +0900 To: biofuel@sustainablelists.org From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: [Biofuel] Fascists at it again Hello Kurt I am too lazy

Re: [Biofuel] Fascists at it again

2008-05-27 Thread talus95889
After a quick google, I think the numbers show that China in absolute numbers is much more likely to kill its prisoners than the US or any other country. I would suppose a fundamental difference is the amount of publicity surrounding each execution depending upon the country. The exact number

Re: [Biofuel] Fascists at it again

2008-05-27 Thread Evans Antoniou
very interesting. --- On Tue, 5/27/08, Keith Addison lt;[EMAIL PROTECTED]gt; wrote: From: Keith Addison lt;[EMAIL PROTECTED]gt; Subject: Re: [Biofuel] Fascists at it again To: biofuel@sustainablelists.org Received: Tuesday, May 27, 2008, 9:35 AM Hello Kurt Thanks for the response. But it's

Re: [Biofuel] Fascists at it again

2008-05-27 Thread Keith Addison
You're quite right, some confusion there - my apologies, and thanks for the correction. Best Keith After a quick google, I think the numbers show that China in absolute numbers is much more likely to kill its prisoners than the US or any other country. I would suppose a fundamental

Re: [Biofuel] Fascists at it again

2008-05-27 Thread Kirk McLoren
: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: [Biofuel] Fascists at it again Hello Kurt I am too lazy to double check myself! Lazier than that I think, totally fast asleep maybe. You honestly think (?) Islam is an idea that's in a moral decline? LOL! How else could you define a government that recognizes

Re: [Biofuel] Fascists at it again

2008-05-26 Thread Kurt Schasker
form of freedom that westerners are accustomed to. Date: Wed, 7 May 2008 06:14:49 +0900 To: biofuel@sustainablelists.org From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: [Biofuel] Fascists at it again Hello Kurt I am too lazy to double check myself! Lazier than that I think, totally fast asleep maybe

Re: [Biofuel] Fascists at it again

2008-05-13 Thread Keith Addison
Hi Chip Keith Addison wrote: | How about Neo-con Fascist. | | Chris | | That sounds serviceable. I suppose some people would stick pig on | the end, it fits quite well. Fine critters, pigs. I never met a pig | who was a Fascist. I think Orwell gave them a bad press. | | Best | | Keith Agreed.

Re: [Biofuel] Fascists at it again

2008-05-13 Thread Dawie Coetzee
Keith Of course there's a lot to be said for ease of communication, but people tend to see how like us other creatures are or aren't as a measure of their superior worth, or of their uselessness, which is odious. That applies as much between humans as between humans and other species. How

Re: [Biofuel] Fascists at it again

2008-05-12 Thread Chip Mefford
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Keith Addison wrote: | How about Neo-con Fascist. | | Chris | | That sounds serviceable. I suppose some people would stick pig on | the end, it fits quite well. Fine critters, pigs. I never met a pig | who was a Fascist. I think Orwell gave them a

Re: [Biofuel] Fascists at it again

2008-05-10 Thread Keith Addison
PROTECTED] To: biofuel@sustainablelists.org Sent: Fri, 9 May 2008 8:28 am Subject: Re: [Biofuel] Fascists at it again (oh, dear, you got me started. . .) :-) That's nice. how about corpiracy (inflicted on us by the neoprivateers-nice little double entendre)? probably not. too cutesy

Re: [Biofuel] Fascists at it again

2008-05-09 Thread Keith Addison
(oh, dear, you got me started. . .) :-) That's nice. how about corpiracy (inflicted on us by the neoprivateers-nice little double entendre)? probably not. too cutesy. Not bad. Corpiracy is good, needs the right pronunciation though; neoprivateers is nice but it's not headline language (too

Re: [Biofuel] Fascists at it again

2008-05-09 Thread willapapacific
How about Neo-con Fascist. Chris -Original Message- From: Keith Addison [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: biofuel@sustainablelists.org Sent: Fri, 9 May 2008 8:28 am Subject: Re: [Biofuel] Fascists at it again (oh, dear, you got me started. . .) :-) That's nice. how about

Re: [Biofuel] Fascists at it again

2008-05-07 Thread Chip Mefford
Keith Addison wrote: Hi Chip, Chris and all This is the famous Mussolini quote: Fascism should more properly be called corporatism because it is the merger of state and corporate power. -- Benito Mussolini But Public Eye reckons he never said it. See:

Re: [Biofuel] Fascists at it again

2008-05-07 Thread Keith Addison
Hi Chip Keith Addison wrote: Hi Chip, Chris and all This is the famous Mussolini quote: Fascism should more properly be called corporatism because it is the merger of state and corporate power. -- Benito Mussolini But Public Eye reckons he never said it. See:

Re: [Biofuel] Fascists at it again

2008-05-07 Thread Chris Burck
(oh, dear, you got me started. . .)how about corpiracy (inflicted on us by the neoprivateers-nice little double entendre)? probably not. too cutesy. if a new word emerges, it'll most likely come from the street. meanwhile, oligarchy works for me, too. that, or babylon. On 5/7/08, Keith

Re: [Biofuel] Fascists at it again

2008-05-06 Thread Chip Mefford
Chris Burck wrote: well, when terms like islamo-fascist get slung about, yeah, you bet the meaning has been degraded. that's precisely the purpose for which such terms have been coined. that extreme notwithstanding, and though the pejorative use of the word exists, it has been far less

Re: [Biofuel] Fascists at it again

2008-05-06 Thread Keith Addison
Hi Chip, Chris and all This is the famous Mussolini quote: Fascism should more properly be called corporatism because it is the merger of state and corporate power. -- Benito Mussolini But Public Eye reckons he never said it. See: http://www.publiceye.org/fascist/corporatism.html Mussolini on

Re: [Biofuel] Fascists at it again

2008-05-06 Thread Keith Addison
. Kurt Date: Sun, 4 May 2008 21:28:30 -0700 From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: sustainablelorgbiofuel@sustainablelists.org Subject: Re: [Biofuel] Fascists at it again The Fascist State organizes the nation, but leaves a sufficient margin of liberty to the individual; the latter is deprived of all

Re: [Biofuel] Fascists at it again

2008-05-05 Thread Andy Karpay
For some reason Wikipedia definition of fascism has lost its references to merging corporatism with the state (it's what I don't like about Wikipedia). However, some common threads can be seen here. 14 Points of fascism: The warning signs http://oldamericancentury.org/14pts.htm AK The

Re: [Biofuel] Fascists at it again

2008-05-05 Thread Kirk McLoren
Good URL Andy. Everyone should look at it. Most politicians seem to be a sick breed of cat. Power mad sociopaths. How they can be so toxic and not even have a hint of their pathology is beyond me. Kirk Andy Karpay [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: For some reason Wikipedia definition of fascism

Re: [Biofuel] Fascists at it again

2008-05-05 Thread Chris Burck
the wiki articles place too much emphasis imho on fascism as a philosophy, though they do discuss corporatism, production/productivism, and strong government intervention in favor of the economic elites. On 5/5/08, Kirk McLoren [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Good URL Andy. Everyone should look at it.

Re: [Biofuel] Fascists at it again

2008-05-05 Thread Chip Mefford
Chris Burck wrote: the wiki articles place too much emphasis imho on fascism as a philosophy, though they do discuss corporatism, production/productivism, and strong government intervention in favor of the economic elites. im(not so -h)o that has to do with the fact that it's a pejorative

Re: [Biofuel] Fascists at it again

2008-05-05 Thread Chris Burck
well, when terms like islamo-fascist get slung about, yeah, you bet the meaning has been degraded. that's precisely the purpose for which such terms have been coined. that extreme notwithstanding, and though the pejorative use of the word exists, it has been far less abused than the barbs

Re: [Biofuel] Fascists at it again

2008-05-05 Thread Andy Karpay
PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Chip Mefford Sent: Monday, May 05, 2008 3:52 PM To: sustainablelorgbiofuel@sustainablelists.org Subject: Re: [Biofuel] Fascists at it again Chris Burck wrote: the wiki articles place too much emphasis imho on fascism as a philosophy, though they do discuss corporatism

Re: [Biofuel] Fascists at it again

2008-05-04 Thread Chip Mefford
Was that fascist as in /extreme/ nationalism? Or is that fascist as in pejorative label applied to things we don't like, without any real definition or meaning? ___ Biofuel mailing list Biofuel@sustainablelists.org

Re: [Biofuel] Fascists at it again

2008-05-04 Thread Kirk McLoren
The Fascist State organizes the nation, but leaves a sufficient margin of liberty to the individual; the latter is deprived of all useless and possibly harmful freedom, but retains what is essential; the deciding power in this question cannot be the individual, but the State alone