Are you saying that it may be possible to take the gycerin by product after
making biodiesel, ferment it then distill it to make ethanol?
-Mark
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Are you saying that it may be possible to take the gycerin by product after
making biodiesel, ferment it then distill it to make ethanol?
-Mark
See:
Absolute Alcohol Using Glycerine
http://journeytoforever.org/biofuel_library.html#alcglyc
Keith
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Can somebody explain me what is Drano ?
Pieter.
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This is more a warning than a question. But many years ago I
Here in Paraguay absolute alcohol takes place to use in cars with structure
modified mechanics, it is pure ethanol. That is here an advantage. then like
you recommend to make ethoxid?, if it is with KOH, like you to extract 5% of
water that it is generated with the reaction KOH + EtOH..
I will
] ethanol method
Can somebody explain me what is Drano ?
Pieter.
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From: Derick Giorchino [EMAIL PROTECTED]
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This is more a warning than a question
Hello Anthonio, Ken and Keith Iam sure that big company like BASF are trying to make ethoxideIN GLOBAL Market in big scale to sell to ruralpeople (high price too) so that Biod can be easily made with ethoxide( ethanol and NaOH)using patended catalyst, butwe can make in the cites this one as
% ?
The economy of this is depending upon your possibilities of recover the
excess ethanol.
Good luck to you
AGERATEC AB
Jan Warnqvist
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On Jan 26, 2006, at 2:29 AM, pan ruti wrote:
I am sure that big company like BASF are trying to
make ethoxide IN GLOBAL Market in big scale to sell
to rural people (high price too) so that Biod can be
easily made with ethoxide( ethanol and NaOH).
If you started with pure sodium
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On Jan 25, 2006, at 11:00 AM, Blas Antonio Guanes wrote:
the problem is that, methanol costs 4 $ and pure ethanol
for car costs 0.52 $, NaOH is gotten in any
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From: Ken Provost [EMAIL PROTECTED]
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On Jan 25, 2006, at 11:00 AM, Blas Antonio Guanes wrote:
the problem is that, methanol costs 4 $ and pure ethanol
for car costs
in the
biodiesel. The BD may still have an odour of gasoline though.
AGERATEC AB
Jan Warnqvist
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Sent: Thursday, January 26, 2006 5:40 PM
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Jan, Wouldn't you expect
Of Zeke Yewdall
Sent: Thursday, January 26, 2006 8:46 AM
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A small amount of gasoline in the biodiesel shouldn't affect it too
much. Some of the crazy schemes for using unheated SVO call for
mixing it with 15% gasoline
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Hello Bias Antonio,
Ken is right, the NaOH dissolves a lot quicker in ethanol if heated. In
order to make ethyl esters the quality of the reactants has to be high:
ethanol min 99,5% pure and
oil with a water content 500 ppm and
a stochiometric
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On Jan 25, 2006, at 11:00 AM, Blas Antonio Guanes wrote:
the problem is that, methanol costs 4 $ and pure ethanol
for car costs 0.52 $, NaOH is gotten in any part.. KOH is
sold in bags of 25 kilos
On Jan 25, 2006, at 11:00 AM, Blas Antonio Guanes wrote:
the problem is that, methanol costs 4 $ and pure ethanol
for car costs 0.52 $, NaOH is gotten in any part.. KOH is
sold in bags of 25 kilos for soap industry.. Here in Paragua
it is difficult to get chemical products. for that
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Sent: Thu, 15 Sep 2005 20:17:27 -0300
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Tom, two questions, 1. how do you know the ethanol is being dried?
and 2. what procedure are you
using for bioD from ethanol?
Tom Irwin wrote:
Hi Bob
No. 93-COOP-1-8627
University of Idaho, College of Agriculture, the University of Idaho.
Is another method more reliable?
Tom Irwin
From: bob allen [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
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Sent: Thu, 15 Sep 2005 20:17:27 -0300
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Tom, two
*From:* bob allen [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
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*Sent:* Thu, 15 Sep 2005 20:17:27 -0300
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Tom, two questions, 1. how do you know
Hi Ken,
Yes, I've read that but I'm trying to avoid using anything petro based. Yeah, I know I'm being a purist but I have some spare time.
Thanks,
Tom
From: Ken Provost [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]To: Biofuel@sustainablelists.orgSent: Thu, 15 Sep 2005 22:06:46 -0300Subject: Re: [Biofuel
Irwin *From:* bob allen [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] *To:* Biofuel@sustainablelists.org *Sent:* Thu, 15 Sep 2005 18:23:08 -0300 *Subject:* Re: [Biofuel] ethanol method It is not easy, due to the fact that ethoxide, can't be made by the combination of sodium or pota
It is not easy, due to the fact that ethoxide, can't be made by the
combination of sodium or potassium hydroxide and ethanol, as one does
with base plus methanol to form methoxide. It can be done however via
alternative ways of making the ethoxide:
K + EtOH --- K(+) (-)OEt + 1/2 H2
Hi Bob and all,
I seem to be having fairly good success drying 95% ethanol with 3A molecular sieve. I still have horrible problems making BioD with 100% ethanol (purchased)but I´m still working on it.
Tom Irwin
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It is not easy, due to the fact that ethoxide, can't be made by the
combination of sodium or potassium hydroxide and ethanol, as one does
with base plus methanol to form methoxide. It can be done however via
alternative ways of making the ethoxide
--- Tom Irwin [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
I still have horrible problems making BioD with 100%
ethanol (purchased)but I'm still working on it.
You probly know this already, but adding even 10-15%
methanol to the anhydrous ethanol makes the reaction
go markedly better.
-K
Hi all,
I thought we can dry up alkohol using CaO or Zeolite. Is it true ? So what's wrong with that method ?
And by using CaO / Zeolite, is it possible to dry alkohol 70% v/v to 99% v/v ?
Thank You
-daniel
On 9/16/05, bob allen [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
Tom, two questions, 1. how do you know
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