Turbines [biofuel]
Just wondering... Does anybody know of successful experiences concerning BD in turbines? Mainly microturbines for small scale power generation. Any info is welcome. Thanx Christian [Non-text portions of this message have been removed] Yahoo! Groups Sponsor -~-- Universal Inkjet Refill Kit $29.95 Refill any ink cartridge for less! Includes black and color ink. http://us.click.yahoo.com/3FDzZA/MkNDAA/ySSFAA/FGYolB/TM -~- Biofuel at Journey to Forever: http://journeytoforever.org/biofuel.html Please do NOT send unsubscribe messages to the list address. To unsubscribe, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
RE: [biofuel] washing water - down the drain or not?
thanks to all, i will sleep better tonight ;) Manolo Rolan Valencia, Spain -Mensaje original- De: Greg and April [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Enviado el: mircoles, 28 de noviembre de 2001 17:42 Para: biofuel@yahoogroups.com Asunto: Re: [biofuel] washing water - down the drain or not? - Original Message - From: Aleksander lt;kac Sent: Wednesday, November 28, 2001 06:26 Subject: [biofuel] washing water - down the drain or not? I've read some posts from people here, concerning the bubble wash water- well, no need to. If you remove your meth via vacuum, all it is to it is VERY MILD soap-water. You produce a more lethal thing when showering or taking a bath. The methanol still left in, it provides food for bacteria - again very small quantities. Diluted to a very thin mixture as well. Your spouse/girl/doughter/sister putting hair spray on her hair once a day is releasing the same amount of alcohol in a month as you are when you make a 10 gal batch. Many plants consiter methanol to be fertalizer. Greg H. Yahoo! Groups Sponsor ADVERTISEMENT http://rd.yahoo.com/M=214322.1753821.3271459.1261774/D=egroupweb/S=17050832 69:HM/A=860488/R=0/*http://registrar.godaddy.com/default.asp?isc=yaho350 http://us.adserver.yahoo.com/l?M=214322.1753821.3271459.1261774/D=egroupmai l/S=1705083269:HM/A=860488/rand=803133095 Biofuel at Journey to Forever: http://journeytoforever.org/biofuel.html http://journeytoforever.org/biofuel.html Please do NOT send unsubscribe messages to the list address. To unsubscribe, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to the Yahoo! Terms of Service http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/ . [Non-text portions of this message have been removed] Yahoo! Groups Sponsor -~-- Universal Inkjet Refill Kit $29.95 Refill any ink cartridge for less! Includes black and color ink. http://us.click.yahoo.com/kL8TtD/MkNDAA/ySSFAA/FGYolB/TM -~- Biofuel at Journey to Forever: http://journeytoforever.org/biofuel.html Please do NOT send unsubscribe messages to the list address. To unsubscribe, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
[biofuel] virus from this group
i have just receive a virus from a user of this list ( mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] [EMAIL PROTECTED]) after posting a message, if everyone else is affected can clean it with the instructions on this page http://www.antivirus.com/vinfo/virusencyclo/default5.asp?VName=WORM_BADTRAN S.B http://www.antivirus.com/vinfo/virusencyclo/default5.asp?VName=WORM_BADTRANS .B saludos Manolo Rolan Valencis,spain [Non-text portions of this message have been removed] Yahoo! Groups Sponsor -~-- Promise to Quit Nicotrol will help http://us.click.yahoo.com/5vN8tD/AqSDAA/ySSFAA/FGYolB/TM -~- Biofuel at Journey to Forever: http://journeytoforever.org/biofuel.html Please do NOT send unsubscribe messages to the list address. To unsubscribe, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
[biofuel] uses for glycerin by-product in biodiesel manufacture
Quoting an extract from US patent no. 6,015,440: ... (glycerol) is reacted with isobutylene in the presence of a strong acid catalyst to produces glycerol ethers. The glycerol ethers are then added back to the methyl ester to provide an improved diesel fuel. It's well worth reading the whole patent ... Paddy Yahoo! Groups Sponsor -~-- Universal Inkjet Refill Kit $29.95 Refill any ink cartridge for less! Includes black and color ink. http://us.click.yahoo.com/4bQK.B/MkNDAA/ySSFAA/FGYolB/TM -~- Biofuel at Journey to Forever: http://journeytoforever.org/biofuel.html Please do NOT send unsubscribe messages to the list address. To unsubscribe, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
RE: [biofuel] virus from this group
Hi keith: I don't know that person, and the mail with the virus was a reply to a mail sended by me to the group and to no one else, this person could be a member of the group with several e-mail accounts on his email reader, (if you put that name on google.com and you look on his home page you can find other email address), if you try to send a email to this person you will recive a reply to your e-mail with the virus attached on it. i don't like virus warnings either, but this is a real one and from here, i have last version of trend Officescan on my computer and it warned me at the moment the virus came. happy biofueling!! Manolo Rolan Valencia, Spain -Mensaje original- De: Keith Addison [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Enviado el: jueves, 29 de noviembre de 2001 12:32 Para: biofuel@yahoogroups.com Asunto: Re: [biofuel] virus from this group i have just receive a virus from a user of this list ( mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] [EMAIL PROTECTED]) after posting a message, if everyone else is affected can clean it with the instructions on this page [EMAIL PROTECTED] is not a member of this list. Keith Addison Journey to Forever Handmade Projects Tokyo http://journeytoforever.org/ http://www.antivirus.com/vinfo/virusencyclo/default5.asp?VName=WORM_BADTRA N S.B http://www.antivirus.com/vinfo/virusencyclo/default5.asp?VName=WORM_BADTRAN S .B saludos Manolo Rolan Valencis,spain Yahoo! Groups Sponsor ADVERTISEMENT Biofuel at Journey to Forever: http://journeytoforever.org/biofuel.html Please do NOT send unsubscribe messages to the list address. To unsubscribe, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to the Yahoo! Terms of Service. Yahoo! Groups Sponsor -~-- Universal Inkjet Refill Kit $29.95 Refill any ink cartridge for less! Includes black and color ink. http://us.click.yahoo.com/f00vhB/MkNDAA/ySSFAA/FGYolB/TM -~- Biofuel at Journey to Forever: http://journeytoforever.org/biofuel.html Please do NOT send unsubscribe messages to the list address. To unsubscribe, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
Re: [biofuel] virus from this group
My name is John Perridge ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) and yes I have several email address, unfortunately I received and email from some one that has copied it,s self to every one in my address book (400 contacts) and also attached itself somehow to this group. I have now removed this virus (I hope) Free anti-virus software can be down loaded and regularly updated at http://www.grisoft.com/html/us_index.html hope this sort out the problem J.P. --- Outgoing mail is certified Virus Free. Checked by AVG anti-virus system (http://www.grisoft.com). Version: 6.0.303 / Virus Database: 164 - Release Date: 24/11/01 Biofuel at Journey to Forever: http://journeytoforever.org/biofuel.html Please do NOT send unsubscribe messages to the list address. To unsubscribe, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
[biofuel] ADM Says Biofuels Key to Future Growth...
Wednesday November 28, 3:35 PM EST By Deborah Cohen CHICAGO (Reuters) - Agribusiness giant Archer Daniels Midland Co. (ADM) sees biofuels such as ethanol and biodiesel as key profit drivers over the next five years and beyond, as laws limiting pollutants in the United States and elsewhere grow stricter, company executives said on Wednesday. Decatur-based ADM has been branching out beyond its mainstay food additives and ingredients such as salad oils and vegetable proteins into more specialized niche products made from primary raw materials soybeans and corn. Biofuels remain one of the strongest growth areas for the company, driven by increased concern over pollutants such as MTBE (methyl tertiary-butyl ether), a gasoline additive that has been known to contaminate ground water. The state of California, for example, plans to eliminate the use of MTBEs soon, and 11 other states have similar legislation pending, said John Rice, who heads ADM's global bioproducts and foods division. Ethanol is the fuel of the future, and the switch from MTBE because of ground water concerns is really the driving force behind ethanol's growth right now, said Rice, who spoke to Wall Street stock analysts during a Wednesday presentation at ADM's Decatur, Illinois, headquarters. ADM is the leading producer of ethanol, a renewable fuel it manufacturers from corn, with roughly 50 percent of the estimated two- billion-gallon U.S. market. The market is expected to double by the end of 2003, Rice said. DIESEL RESTRICTIONS SPELL MORE ETHANOL DEMAND U.S. legislation restricting the use of sulfur in diesel fuels by 2006 will provide even greater opportunities for ethanol, boosting demand by an estimated 486 million gallons annually, Rice said. Those diesel fuel restrictions will also open doors for biodiesel, another renewable fuel manufactured by ADM from soybeans. Biodiesel contains no petroleum, but it can be blended at any level with petroleum diesel to create a biodiesel blend. ADM is already the leading biodiesel producer in Europe, where big markets such as Germany have been steadily growing. Now the company is preparing to capture the dominant share of the pending U.S. market, executives said. We think it has significant U.S. potential, said Paul Mulhollem, who heads the company's grain, oilseed processing and cocoa business. Biodiesel can substitute for sulfur. In addition to expanding ADM's prospects, the use of biodiesel fuel could lead to lower U.S. farm subsidies, Mulhollem said, as its production will increase sales of soybean oil ordinarily wasted as part of the soybean meal crushing process, boosting revenues to soybean farmers. U.S. soyoil stockpiles rose to 2.7 billion pounds in October from 2 billion pounds a year ago, according to U.S. government statistics. ADM shares were up 41 cents at $15.45, a rise of 2.73 percent, in late-afternoon New York Stock Exchange Trading on Wednesday, after touching a year high of $15.53 earlier in the day. ©2001 Reuters Limited. Biofuel at Journey to Forever: http://journeytoforever.org/biofuel.html Please do NOT send unsubscribe messages to the list address. To unsubscribe, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
[biofuel] GM Diesels?
These certainly take more fuel in the V8 versions than the euro of asian diesels, and the early ones are apparently not 'true' diesels being adapted 350 blocks. But any ways, any experience with bio diesel or SVO in them? Sometimes low mileage ones come up for sale at good prices. I ma trying to find a good condition diesel without spending a lot right now. The early rabbits and jetta golf vehicles are getting tons of kms and I don't want to shell out for a very expensive rebuild before I can try the bio stuff. Yahoo! Groups Sponsor -~-- Universal Inkjet Refill Kit $29.95 Refill any ink cartridge for less! Includes black and color ink. http://us.click.yahoo.com/3FDzZA/MkNDAA/ySSFAA/FGYolB/TM -~- Biofuel at Journey to Forever: http://journeytoforever.org/biofuel.html Please do NOT send unsubscribe messages to the list address. To unsubscribe, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
Re: [biofuel] virus from this group
Many viruses will change the from address to keep others from warning the person that has the virus. The [EMAIL PROTECTED] address is not real, but the virus is and the subject line otherwise suggest that it came from someone in this group. Greg H. - Original Message - From: Keith Addison Sent: Thursday, November 29, 2001 04:31 Subject: Re: [biofuel] virus from this group i have just receive a virus from a user of this list ( mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] [EMAIL PROTECTED]) after posting a message, if everyone else is affected can clean it with the instructions on this page [EMAIL PROTECTED] is not a member of this list. Yahoo! Groups Sponsor -~-- Universal Inkjet Refill Kit $29.95 Refill any ink cartridge for less! Includes black and color ink. http://us.click.yahoo.com/iHh8lD/MkNDAA/ySSFAA/FGYolB/TM -~- Biofuel at Journey to Forever: http://journeytoforever.org/biofuel.html Please do NOT send unsubscribe messages to the list address. To unsubscribe, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
Re: [biofuel] Organic ethanol
Mike, Thanks, I will, and thanks to Terry, too. Craig Mike Nixon wrote: Craig, Sound advice! Terry knows his stuff in this area and is well worth listening to. Suggest you have a peek at his website to confirm that statement! All the best, Mike Nixon - Original Message - From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: biofuel@yahoogroups.com Sent: Thursday, November 29, 2001 5:40 PM Subject: [biofuel] Organic ethanol Craig There are several places to get organic ethanol out there. We have built several stills for people that produce nothing but organic alcohol. If you are interested I can have some contact you. Although why dont you make your own? Thats what this is all about. Terry D. Wilhelm The Revenoor Co. INC www.revenoor.com 503.662.4173 On Wed, 28 November 2001, craig reece wrote: Thanks. If ethanol is less toxic, that would be a plus for my use (mixing with SVO.) And since I'd not be making biodiesel with it, the fact that methanol is easier to control wouldn't be an issue. Anyone have a source for ethanol made from organically raised crops? Craig Greg and April wrote: - Original Message - From: craig reece Sent: Wednesday, November 28, 2001 12:14 Subject: Re: [biofuel] Direct vs. Indirect injection for SVO Ed, Thanks for this! Just read the whole thing. The improvement with the addition of alcohol is impressive. I'd like to try it with ethanol, but I've got a question. I know that most folks who make biodiesel use methanol, but I can't remember if it's because it's more readily available, or less toxic, or what. But if it's not any more toxic, I'd love to use some - and preferably from organically raised crops. If you or anyone else knows of a source, I like to hear about it. I'm in northern California. Methanol is used more often because the results is easier to control and more consistant. Methanol is a little more toxic (to humans) then ethanol. On a toxic scale of 1 to 10 ethanol is a 3, methanol is a 4, benzine is 7 and gasoline is a 9, take your pick Methanol can be made from any source of carbon and hydrogen, this means that it be made from air and water (with the proper amount of energy applied of course). Greg H. Biofuel at Journey to Forever: http://journeytoforever.org/biofuel.html Please do NOT send unsubscribe messages to the list address. To unsubscribe, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/ Biofuel at Journey to Forever: http://journeytoforever.org/biofuel.html Please do NOT send unsubscribe messages to the list address. To unsubscribe, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/ Yahoo! Groups Sponsor ADVERTISEMENT Biofuel at Journey to Forever: http://journeytoforever.org/biofuel.html Please do NOT send unsubscribe messages to the list address. To unsubscribe, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to the Yahoo! Terms of Service. [Non-text portions of this message have been removed] Biofuel at Journey to Forever: http://journeytoforever.org/biofuel.html Please do NOT send unsubscribe messages to the list address. To unsubscribe, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/ Yahoo! Groups Sponsor -~-- Universal Inkjet Refill Kit $29.95 Refill any ink cartridge for less! Includes black and color ink. http://us.click.yahoo.com/gwUrIA/MkNDAA/ySSFAA/FGYolB/TM -~- Biofuel at Journey to Forever: http://journeytoforever.org/biofuel.html Please do NOT send unsubscribe messages to the list address. To unsubscribe, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
[biofuel] Re: Methanol is DEADLY!
- Original Message - From: Keith Addison [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: biofuel@yahoogroups.com Sent: Wednesday, November 28, 2001 22:49 Subject: Methanol is DEADLY! - was Re: [biofuel] mehtanol ethanol, etc. Yes it is. Hm. No, Ed, I don't think Greg should have it his way. He's definitely underplaying the dangers of methanol. I don't think it's going to do anyone any good for D-I-Y biofuel neophytes to get the impression that methanol is nice, cosy stuff like the wood it's named for, only slightly less hazardous than the jolly old booze you buy in a supermarket next to the food shelves and drink with your dinner. I may be missing something, but, I don't think that I ever said that methanol was only slightly less hazardous than the jolly old booze you buy in a supermarket , it is more hazardous. Please understand I never ment to imply that meth was safe work with unprotected, it is not. What I was trying to say, and failed to is that methanol like other chemicals (that have a poision potential), need to be treated properly and with respect, and when done so are to useful to be neglected. For this, I am sorry. It is one of the ingreaents that may be used, but, not by its self. It may indeed be used by itself, and was indeed the original denaturant: add 5% methanol. Yes, you are right, I was looking at Compleate Denaturant and missed Special Denaturant. I am sorry for missing it. We'd all love to know about an effective backyard methanol production technique. Using dino-source methanol spoils it for many of us - it means our beautiful clean biodiesel isn't quite as clean as we'd like, and using ethanol instead has its problems. D-I-Y bio-methanol would be excellent. I think that I found a DIY bio methanol, but all I have is 2 1/2 pages with just an overview, that I am stuck on. Greg H. Yahoo! Groups Sponsor -~-- Universal Inkjet Refill Kit $29.95 Refill any ink cartridge for less! Includes black and color ink. http://us.click.yahoo.com/QzLWzD/MkNDAA/ySSFAA/FGYolB/TM -~- Biofuel at Journey to Forever: http://journeytoforever.org/biofuel.html Please do NOT send unsubscribe messages to the list address. To unsubscribe, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
Re: [biofuel] Re: Methanol is DEADLY!
I love Methanol. - Original Message - From: Greg and April To: biofuel Sent: Thursday, November 29, 2001 11:14 AM Subject: [biofuel] Re: Methanol is DEADLY! - Original Message - From: Keith Addison [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: biofuel@yahoogroups.com Sent: Wednesday, November 28, 2001 22:49 Subject: Methanol is DEADLY! - was Re: [biofuel] mehtanol ethanol, etc. Yes it is. Hm. No, Ed, I don't think Greg should have it his way. He's definitely underplaying the dangers of methanol. I don't think it's going to do anyone any good for D-I-Y biofuel neophytes to get the impression that methanol is nice, cosy stuff like the wood it's named for, only slightly less hazardous than the jolly old booze you buy in a supermarket next to the food shelves and drink with your dinner. I may be missing something, but, I don't think that I ever said that methanol was only slightly less hazardous than the jolly old booze you buy in a supermarket , it is more hazardous. Please understand I never ment to imply that meth was safe work with unprotected, it is not. What I was trying to say, and failed to is that methanol like other chemicals (that have a poision potential), need to be treated properly and with respect, and when done so are to useful to be neglected. For this, I am sorry. It is one of the ingreaents that may be used, but, not by its self. It may indeed be used by itself, and was indeed the original denaturant: add 5% methanol. Yes, you are right, I was looking at Compleate Denaturant and missed Special Denaturant. I am sorry for missing it. We'd all love to know about an effective backyard methanol production technique. Using dino-source methanol spoils it for many of us - it means our beautiful clean biodiesel isn't quite as clean as we'd like, and using ethanol instead has its problems. D-I-Y bio-methanol would be excellent. I think that I found a DIY bio methanol, but all I have is 2 1/2 pages with just an overview, that I am stuck on. Greg H. Yahoo! Groups Sponsor ADVERTISEMENT Biofuel at Journey to Forever: http://journeytoforever.org/biofuel.html Please do NOT send unsubscribe messages to the list address. To unsubscribe, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to the Yahoo! Terms of Service. [Non-text portions of this message have been removed] Yahoo! Groups Sponsor -~-- Universal Inkjet Refill Kit $29.95 Refill any ink cartridge for less! Includes black and color ink. http://us.click.yahoo.com/gwUrIA/MkNDAA/ySSFAA/FGYolB/TM -~- Biofuel at Journey to Forever: http://journeytoforever.org/biofuel.html Please do NOT send unsubscribe messages to the list address. To unsubscribe, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
Re: [biofuel] REDI engine sump oil stove
Does anyone have the plans from icrc? Reply offlist. L -- On Wed, 28 Nov 2001 16:46:19 Louie Pelletier wrote: hi joe i did a google search for HV1 and there it was i want one or plans. anyone on this list from swittzerland. louis - Original Message - From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: biofuel@yahoogroups.com Sent: Wednesday, November 28, 2001 1:23 PM Subject: [biofuel] REDI engine sump oil stove Has anyone seen plans for this waste (sump) oil burning stove? .. . Biofuel at Journey to Forever: http://journeytoforever.org/biofuel.html Please do NOT send unsubscribe messages to the list address. To unsubscribe, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/ Biofuel at Journey to Forever: http://journeytoforever.org/biofuel.html Please do NOT send unsubscribe messages to the list address. To unsubscribe, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/ Join 18 million Eudora users by signing up for a free Eudora Web-Mail account at http://www.eudoramail.com Yahoo! Groups Sponsor -~-- Universal Inkjet Refill Kit $29.95 Refill any ink cartridge for less! Includes black and color ink. http://us.click.yahoo.com/f00vhB/MkNDAA/ySSFAA/FGYolB/TM -~- Biofuel at Journey to Forever: http://journeytoforever.org/biofuel.html Please do NOT send unsubscribe messages to the list address. To unsubscribe, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
Re: [biofuel] Re: Methanol is DEADLY!
Jimmy Jones [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I love Methanol. Where should we send the flowers? Keith Addison Journey to Forever Handmade Projects Tokyo http://journeytoforever.org/ Yahoo! Groups Sponsor -~-- Need new boots for winter? Looking for a perfect gift for your shoe loving friends? Zappos.com is the perfect fit for all your shoe needs! http://us.click.yahoo.com/iWGL5B/QrSDAA/ySSFAA/FGYolB/TM -~- Biofuel at Journey to Forever: http://journeytoforever.org/biofuel.html Please do NOT send unsubscribe messages to the list address. To unsubscribe, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
[biofuel] Re: Methanol is DEADLY!
Hi Greg Thanks for the response, seems we're all sorted now. (Except Jimmy Jones maybe!) snip We'd all love to know about an effective backyard methanol production technique. Using dino-source methanol spoils it for many of us - it means our beautiful clean biodiesel isn't quite as clean as we'd like, and using ethanol instead has its problems. D-I-Y bio-methanol would be excellent. I think that I found a DIY bio methanol, but all I have is 2 1/2 pages with just an overview, that I am stuck on. Try contacting HomePower? If it is indeed HomePower that published it. It takes high temeperatures and high pressures, eh? Good luck! Best Keith Addison Journey to Forever Handmade Projects Tokyo http://journeytoforever.org/ Greg H. Yahoo! Groups Sponsor -~-- Universal Inkjet Refill Kit $29.95 Refill any ink cartridge for less! Includes black and color ink. http://us.click.yahoo.com/gwUrIA/MkNDAA/ySSFAA/FGYolB/TM -~- Biofuel at Journey to Forever: http://journeytoforever.org/biofuel.html Please do NOT send unsubscribe messages to the list address. To unsubscribe, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
RE: [biofuel] virus from this group
Hi keith: I don't know that person, and the mail with the virus was a reply to a mail sended by me to the group and to no one else, this person could be a member of the group with several e-mail accounts on his email reader, (if you put that name on google.com and you look on his home page you can find other email address), if you try to send a email to this person you will recive a reply to your e-mail with the virus attached on it. i don't like virus warnings either, but this is a real one and from here, i have last version of trend Officescan on my computer and it warned me at the moment the virus came. happy biofueling!! Manolo Rolan Valencia, Spain Hi Manolo I'm left pretty much in the dark when it comes to viruses because we only use Macs here, so I have no experience of what happens or how it happens. I have received this latest virus a few times, but it's just an empty email, without even an attachment. None of them affect us. It strikes me it's Micro$oft that's the real virus, no? Happy biofueling to you too! Keith Addison Journey to Forever Handmade Projects Tokyo http://journeytoforever.org/ Yahoo! Groups Sponsor -~-- Universal Inkjet Refill Kit $29.95 Refill any ink cartridge for less! Includes black and color ink. http://us.click.yahoo.com/iHh8lD/MkNDAA/ySSFAA/FGYolB/TM -~- Biofuel at Journey to Forever: http://journeytoforever.org/biofuel.html Please do NOT send unsubscribe messages to the list address. To unsubscribe, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
Re: [biofuel] virus from this group
My name is John Perridge ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) and yes I have several email address, unfortunately I received and email from some one that has copied it,s self to every one in my address book (400 contacts) and also attached itself somehow to this group. I have now removed this virus (I hope) Free anti-virus software can be down loaded and regularly updated at http://www.grisoft.com/html/us_index.html hope this sort out the problem J.P. Mystery solved, John, thanks for telling us, glad you're better now. Keith Addison Journey to Forever Handmade Projects Tokyo http://journeytoforever.org/ Yahoo! Groups Sponsor -~-- Need new boots for winter? Looking for a perfect gift for your shoe loving friends? Zappos.com is the perfect fit for all your shoe needs! http://us.click.yahoo.com/iWGL5B/QrSDAA/ySSFAA/FGYolB/TM -~- Biofuel at Journey to Forever: http://journeytoforever.org/biofuel.html Please do NOT send unsubscribe messages to the list address. To unsubscribe, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
[biofuel] DIY bio methanol (was Re: Methanol is DEADLY!)
- Original Message - From: Keith Addison Sent: Thursday, November 29, 2001 13:00 Subject: [biofuel] Re: Methanol is DEADLY! I think that I found a DIY bio methanol, but all I have is 2 1/2 pages with just an overview, that I am stuck on. Try contacting HomePower? If it is indeed HomePower that published it. It takes high temeperatures and high pressures, eh? It was not Home Power, a book called Makin' It On The Farm : Alcohol Fuel is the Road to Independence put out by Amreican Agriculture News. The big problem I'm running into, is it was put out in '79 and all the contact info. is way out of date. Greg H. Yahoo! Groups Sponsor -~-- Universal Inkjet Refill Kit $29.95 Refill any ink cartridge for less! Includes black and color ink. http://us.click.yahoo.com/iHh8lD/MkNDAA/ySSFAA/FGYolB/TM -~- Biofuel at Journey to Forever: http://journeytoforever.org/biofuel.html Please do NOT send unsubscribe messages to the list address. To unsubscribe, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
Re: [biofuel] ADM Says Biofuels Key to Future Growth...
Yeah, downright pity about ADM - any doubts that Big Biofuels will be just like Big Oil if they have their way? Or worse. Come on guys, forestall this bunch of thugs and get your local-scale bio-regional biofuels plants up and running right quick! Keith Addison Journey to Forever Handmade Projects Tokyo http://journeytoforever.org/ Wednesday November 28, 3:35 PM EST By Deborah Cohen CHICAGO (Reuters) - Agribusiness giant Archer Daniels Midland Co. (ADM) sees biofuels such as ethanol and biodiesel as key profit drivers over the next five years and beyond, as laws limiting pollutants in the United States and elsewhere grow stricter, company executives said on Wednesday. snip Biofuel at Journey to Forever: http://journeytoforever.org/biofuel.html Please do NOT send unsubscribe messages to the list address. To unsubscribe, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
Re: [biofuel] 1981 Peugeot 505 turbodiesel sedan
This engine is a Cat and still used in small tractors, I have heard. Does anyone in this group know if this is true? My source has gone on to the PeugeotsintheSky realm. -- On Sat, 24 Nov 2001 19:04:25 Neoteric Biofuels Inc. wrote: Available. Original owner. I have not seen it. Anyone have one? Ed B. www.biofuels.ca Biofuel at Journey to Forever: http://journeytoforever.org/biofuel.html Please do NOT send unsubscribe messages to the list address. To unsubscribe, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/ Join 18 million Eudora users by signing up for a free Eudora Web-Mail account at http://www.eudoramail.com Yahoo! Groups Sponsor -~-- Need new boots for winter? Looking for a perfect gift for your shoe loving friends? Zappos.com is the perfect fit for all your shoe needs! http://us.click.yahoo.com/iWGL5B/QrSDAA/ySSFAA/FGYolB/TM -~- Biofuel at Journey to Forever: http://journeytoforever.org/biofuel.html Please do NOT send unsubscribe messages to the list address. To unsubscribe, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
Re: [biofuel] 1981 Peugeot 505 turbodiesel sedan
Doubt it since Peugeot has been building diesels for over 100 years. Not a Cat, but rather a gen-u-whine Pug, I'd imagine. Edward Beggs www.biofuels.ca From: L Miller [EMAIL PROTECTED] Organization: QUALCOMM Eudora Web-Mail (http://www.eudoramail.com:80) Reply-To: biofuel@yahoogroups.com Date: Thu, 29 Nov 2001 14:29:36 -0600 To: biofuel@yahoogroups.com Subject: Re: [biofuel] 1981 Peugeot 505 turbodiesel sedan This engine is a Cat and still used in small tractors, I have heard. Does anyone in this group know if this is true? My source has gone on to the PeugeotsintheSky realm. -- On Sat, 24 Nov 2001 19:04:25 Neoteric Biofuels Inc. wrote: Available. Original owner. I have not seen it. Anyone have one? Ed B. www.biofuels.ca Biofuel at Journey to Forever: http://journeytoforever.org/biofuel.html Please do NOT send unsubscribe messages to the list address. To unsubscribe, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/ Join 18 million Eudora users by signing up for a free Eudora Web-Mail account at http://www.eudoramail.com Biofuel at Journey to Forever: http://journeytoforever.org/biofuel.html Please do NOT send unsubscribe messages to the list address. To unsubscribe, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/ Yahoo! Groups Sponsor -~-- Universal Inkjet Refill Kit $29.95 Refill any ink cartridge for less! Includes black and color ink. http://us.click.yahoo.com/iHh8lD/MkNDAA/ySSFAA/FGYolB/TM -~- Biofuel at Journey to Forever: http://journeytoforever.org/biofuel.html Please do NOT send unsubscribe messages to the list address. To unsubscribe, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
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[biofuel] washing machine and biodiesel
Yesterday caming from the cinema i found a washing machine on the trash, i took my screw-driver and my pliers and i started to take pieces from it, i found those parts interesting to make a new brand biodiesel processor. electric engine - good for the main mixer water pump - good for the methoxide mixer solenoid valves - a step to automate the process making to move the methoxide from its mixer to the main mixer after a time thermostat - to shut down an electric heater when a temperature is reached tubes and cables i want to use too a fridge's compressor for the bubble washing and the methanol recovering someone has try to do something like this? is there something i could forget? any extra ideas. if it works i would share the experience and the photos, if it doesn't just the experience :-) thanks in advance Manuel Rolan Valencia, Spain Yahoo! Groups Sponsor -~-- Universal Inkjet Refill Kit $29.95 Refill any ink cartridge for less! Includes black and color ink. http://us.click.yahoo.com/f00vhB/MkNDAA/ySSFAA/FGYolB/TM -~- Biofuel at Journey to Forever: http://journeytoforever.org/biofuel.html Please do NOT send unsubscribe messages to the list address. To unsubscribe, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
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Re: [biofuel] DIY bio methanol (was Re: Methanol is DEADLY!)
there is a slight update to that book. It's still a good one, put out by my friend Micki. http://buffalo-creek-press.com/alcohol.htm Steve Spence Subscribe to the Renewable Energy Newsletter: http://www.webconx.com/subscribe.htm Renewable Energy Pages - http://www.webconx.dns2go.com/ Human powered devices, equipment, and transport - http://24.190.106.81:8383/2000/humanpower.htm [EMAIL PROTECTED] - Original Message - From: Greg and April [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: biofuel@yahoogroups.com Sent: Thursday, November 29, 2001 3:11 PM Subject: [biofuel] DIY bio methanol (was Re: Methanol is DEADLY!) - Original Message - From: Keith Addison Sent: Thursday, November 29, 2001 13:00 Subject: [biofuel] Re: Methanol is DEADLY! I think that I found a DIY bio methanol, but all I have is 2 1/2 pages with just an overview, that I am stuck on. Try contacting HomePower? If it is indeed HomePower that published it. It takes high temeperatures and high pressures, eh? It was not Home Power, a book called Makin' It On The Farm : Alcohol Fuel is the Road to Independence put out by Amreican Agriculture News. The big problem I'm running into, is it was put out in '79 and all the contact info. is way out of date. Greg H. Biofuel at Journey to Forever: http://journeytoforever.org/biofuel.html Please do NOT send unsubscribe messages to the list address. To unsubscribe, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/ Yahoo! Groups Sponsor -~-- Universal Inkjet Refill Kit $29.95 Refill any ink cartridge for less! Includes black and color ink. http://us.click.yahoo.com/gwUrIA/MkNDAA/ySSFAA/FGYolB/TM -~- Biofuel at Journey to Forever: http://journeytoforever.org/biofuel.html Please do NOT send unsubscribe messages to the list address. To unsubscribe, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
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Keith Addison wrote: Yep, again and again and again!! Sorry, guys, ain't nothing to be done about it, it happens on all the lists, no matter what you do. I can't figure out why anyone would WANT to leave this list . . . robert luis rabello Yahoo! Groups Sponsor -~-- Universal Inkjet Refill Kit $29.95 Refill any ink cartridge for less! Includes black and color ink. http://us.click.yahoo.com/0zggVB/MkNDAA/ySSFAA/FGYolB/TM -~- Biofuel at Journey to Forever: http://journeytoforever.org/biofuel.html Please do NOT send unsubscribe messages to the list address. To unsubscribe, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
