I.S.,
So why did Building 7 go
down? It wasn't hit by anything except some fallingdebris
from
the towers. Why was the 757 that hit the
Pentagon only able to make a 16 ft diameter
hole, perfectly round? Why were all
military planes kept from stopping the errant planes
before they hit the
Yes! HuZah!!!
On 12 Apr 2006, at 03:47, I. S. wrote:
Today on the University of California, Santa Cruz campus, an
organized group of student protestors succeded in shutting down the
campus job fair until the military recruiters were forced to leave!
Hi Darryl
Keith, well done!
:-) Thankyou! Methinks 'tis nothing special though.
Super stuff and great information in the on-going
wars of words regarding home brew quality.
Yes, a major reason for doing it. At least it is just a war of words,
no DU and cluster bombs. I wonder though if maybe
They can't help lying, it's compulsive, I doubt they're even aware
they do it. Confront them with the lie and they'll shrug it off with
a bit of bluster and go on doing it with a clear conscience. No doubt
they do have a conscience, but a selective conscience isn't a lot
different to no
Wan't Dick Cheney the bad guy in the Global Warming movie, the Day After?
From: doug [EMAIL PROTECTED]
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To: Biofuel@sustainablelists.org
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Date: Sun, 09 Apr 2006 12:38:18 -0400
Terry Wilhelm
A back to the sixties theme with environmental musicians like the Rolling
Stones, Bruce Cockburn, Paul McCartney, Sting and probably many other famous
people (environmental artists) could bring a lot of attention to the urgency
of slowing down global warming. It could be in the form of a huge
You mean the day after tomorrow? Looked like him but the name was
different.
The day after was a tv, nuke waste movie.
On 12 Apr 2006, at 13:24, Terry Dyck wrote:
Wan't Dick Cheney the bad guy in the Global Warming movie, the Day
After?
From: doug [EMAIL PROTECTED]
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Perkins talks a lot about this in Confessions of an Economic Hit Man.
On 12 Apr 2006, at 17:18, Keith Addison wrote:
They can't help lying, it's compulsive, I doubt they're even aware
they do it. Confront them with the lie and they'll shrug it off with
a bit of bluster and go on doing it
Add:
We have also compiled a bird flu resource page with relevant
publications, articles and links - http://www.grain.org/go/birdflu
Date: Wed, 12 Apr 2006 11:06:23 +0100 (BST)
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Subject: [New from GRAIN] Rural poor devasted by top-down global
response to bird flu
Wasn't it the day after yesterday? Anyway he's the bad guy even when
he cross-dresses as the good guy.
You mean the day after tomorrow? Looked like him but the name was
different.
The day after was a tv, nuke waste movie.
On 12 Apr 2006, at 13:24, Terry Dyck wrote:
Wan't Dick Cheney the
Thanks Gary, but I know, I've been writing about it for awhile. We're
at the other end of it here in Japan, people we know are involved in
it. It wasn't outside my thinking when I said just ignore them.
Again, so what?
For one thing, is that guy really saying they're going to export B5
to
The movie The Day After Tomorrow was shown in theaters, not
just on TV. The VP did look like ours. The Pres also looked like
ours, wore a baseball cap and was reassured by the VP that the
climate change was not serious. The Pres ended up dying in a
plane crash and the VP immigrated to Mexico,
I believe we now have more than enough to charge
Bush/Cheney with
crimes against humanity.
That's true regardless of whether they had any part in 9/11. They've
certainly killed enough people since then to be up there with the
great murderous dictators of history...
On 4/12/06, D. Mindock
I am going to bring up an old post (February- lets accredit ourselves)
because I read the entire thread in the archives and didn't see any real
decision. Why don't we form a public trade group? It would be huge, given
the scale and reach of our mailing list alone. It should set off a ripple
that
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
The Pres ended up dying in a
plane crash and the VP immigrated to Mexico, the only place in
North America warm enough to live in.
Funniest line: In a case of reverse immigration... -Newscaster,
describing the flow of American refugees across the Rio Grande into
Thanks for the replies and information regarding rice - ethanol conversion.
We're looking at local market supply, demand, and prices for fuel,
crops, feedstock, labor, etc.
Trying to figure out some web of inputs/processing/outputs that results
in a higher income than the existing rice
No idea. If they are in the way of commercial development they're dead.On 12Apr, 2006, at 9:14 PM, Keith Addison wrote:How're the mangroves doing round there these days? ___
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No, no.Go to imdb.comThe Day After was a made for tv movie from 1983.The Day After TOMORROW was the flick from last year with the Dead-Eye Dick look alike.On 12Apr, 2006, at 9:51 PM, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:The movie The Day After Tomorrow was shown in theaters, not just on TV.
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
The Pres ended up dying in a
plane crash and the VP immigrated to Mexico, the only place in
North America warm enough to live in.
And the biggest fantasy in the whole film involved how the Mexican
people and government welcomed all of the American
D.
I'm not being a naysayer, the conspiracy theory may have legs, but all
this creates many more questions for me...Reasonable doubt is exactly
what they would want to create
All this is circumstantial and we need hard evidence. Witnesses.
Receipts. Black boxes. Presidential briefings. VICE
What does this mean for homebrewers?
On 4/12/06, *Eric Youngdale* [EMAIL PROTECTED]
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I got this in my inbox this morning from someone I work with. He
was on Rt 17 between US 50 and I66.
I had an interesting stop at a police checkpoint this
Or look at the gasification list at REPP.org
Thompson, Mark L. (PNB RD) wrote:
Why not compress Woodgas and run it in larger vehicles, buss, trucks
and such.
The vehicles would need to be large enough to handle the storage tanks.
Woodgas is about:
CO 22%
H2 18%
CH4
Hallo Gary,
Tuesday, 11 April, 2006, 21:42:53, you wrote:
GLG Keith,
GLG Got you copy of Overnight Sensation on the shelves somewhere?
...have you guessed it yet? I'm the slime oozing out of your TV
set.
Great album!
Happy Happy,
Gustl
GLG On 11 Apr 2006, at 23:45, Keith Addison
Dear D. MindockYou seem to be ignoring the central point - if the 'CIA' wanted to blow up the twin towers, why didn't they just put a huge truck bomb underneath them? The only reason to hijack planes and crash them into the WTC is if you really are a fanatical terrorist operating under cover
We see this sort of testing hereabouts as well. Normally they are
checking for dyed fuel, which is exactly that. It's pale red/pink.
Sometimes called farm gas. There is an equivalent for diesel for
off-road use.
It should mean nothing for homebrewers (assuming of course your finished
fuel
Mike,
They are checking if the fuel is colored or
uncolored, the difference between taxed and
untaxed farm fuel. I do not remember, but I think
it is the farm fuel that is colored, in which
case it will be no problems with biodiesel as long it is not colored red.
Hakan
At 19:29
Hello Paul
One day we will know the truth...
Ie we don't know it now. That much I'll agree with, and just about
nothing else other than that some jets hit some buildings and killed
people.
Hopefully one day it will all add up.
I think it will have to be forced to, squeezed out relentlessly
Paul asked some questions:
For the WTC Towers and #7 to be wired for explosives would be
a HUGE project requiring a LOT of time and workers in those
buildings for weeks. Where are those workers? Where is the
company that carried it out? There are only a few skyscraper
demo companies. No one
Eric It well could be nothing more than a dye test. Here in New England we use home heating oil and it is dyed RED. Home heating oil isdiesel with less additives.If you are caught with RED diesel in your vehicle you are in trouble. I forgot to mention that home heating oil usually costs less
What does this mean for homebrewers?
Not much. They're testing for the red dye found in off-road diesel. Common
practice. They won't be sending any other info, requests or edicts to the
driver who was stopped.
And the day they start making drivers carry current receipts for the
fuel in their
It is amazing how the whole thing follows the fire in parliament,
during AH's coming to power. In that case they also show tried and
convicted a mentally disturbed janitor for it. Does it rings,
thinking of current show trial of a clearly and officially
confirmed mentally retarded person.
Howdy Hakan, the problem is my biodiesel is red :( , if I use a simple
base catalyzed transesterification. My current source of wvo is from
chicken processing plants, which apparently use red palm oil in the
fryers. It is full of beta-carotene and is quite red. Interestingly if
I use an
Hi Gustl
Hallo Gary,
Tuesday, 11 April, 2006, 21:42:53, you wrote:
GLG Keith,
GLG Got you copy of Overnight Sensation on the shelves somewhere?
...have you guessed it yet? I'm the slime oozing out of your TV
set.
Great album!
That's right folks don't touch that dial!
See:
Being in the auto repair and maintenance business, I have access tolarge quantities of waste oil. I keep the automatic transmission fluid seperate, filter it and run it in my diesel. Runs well, little bit more power, little better mileage. But, it has red dye in it. Hope they don't ever stop me.
Hi Peter
Dear D. Mindock
You seem to be ignoring the central point - if the 'CIA' wanted to
blow up the twin towers, why didn't they just put a huge truck bomb
underneath them? The only reason to hijack planes and crash them
into the WTC is if you really are a fanatical terrorist operating
Keith,
Got you copy of Overnight Sensation on the shelves somewhere?
Sure do Gary. Why do you ask?
On 11 Apr 2006, at 23:45, Keith Addison wrote:
You might enjoy this. 1981. Nobody listened.
Frank Zappa on Crossfire, 1986
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Hakan Falk wrote:
Big snip...
If you are buying your fuel, you are paying taxes. Having spent the
last 25 years in law enforcement, my advice to anyone who is asked by
a police officer if they may do whatever, like dip your tank to check
for dyed fuel, I would politely respond May I see your
Howdy Hakan, the problem is my biodiesel is red :( , if I use a simple
base catalyzed transesterification. My current source of wvo is from
chicken processing plants, which apparently use red palm oil in the
fryers. It is full of beta-carotene and is quite red. Interestingly if
I use an
Darn,
I had the opportunity to get my hands on one as well
but didn't take the offer.
I believe that they are rated at 5,000 and 10,000psi's depending
on size. Can come in handy for storing a number of gases
and the high strength makes them usefull, capacity wise.
I would certainly grab them,
Acid in the wash doesn't have any impact, as I do that regardless of the
main reaction conditions. I guess it is the more forcing (hotter) and
longer conditions of the acid catalyzed stage that degrades the
carotenes.
Keith Addison wrote:
Howdy Hakan, the problem is my biodiesel is red :( ,
Hi Gustl, Mike,
No one ever answers my posts (except Keith, our hero), so I can blithely
write on this delightfully off-topic topic.
From: Gustl Steiner-Zehender [EMAIL PROTECTED]
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Date: Sat, 8 Apr 2006 17:41:59 -0400
To: Mike Weaver
Mike Weaver wrote:
What does this mean for homebrewers?
On 4/12/06, *Eric Youngdale* [EMAIL PROTECTED]
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snip
I'd be curious to know... at current fuel prices, did he get his sample
back, or get a credit for it? :)
doug swanson
--
Contentment comes not
i thought on-road diesel was yellow(undyed) and the offroad farm diesel was
red?
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For the impact on our psyche.
We actually SAW an attack, like Pearl Harbor. Lots of parallels
there. It was meant to be a show.
This WAS the best way.
On 13Apr, 2006, at 1:41 AM, I. S. wrote:
if the 'CIA' wanted to blow up the twin towers, why didn't they
just put a huge truck bomb
That would have been The Running Man 1987. Post Terminator, 1984.On 13Apr, 2006, at 3:30 AM, Keith Addison wrote:Schwarzenegger, forgotten what it was called, pre-Terminator, low-budget SF with lots of great cheepnis. ___
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Just to be sure you're "That" kind of person. I'm one too.Never forget my introduction to Zappa. In my teen years listening to the college radio station, someone had the cajones to play Dinah-Mo-Hum. I was hooked.The cover art will keep a stonie entertained for hours. On 13Apr, 2006, at 3:30
I thin that also contains a lot of Chicken Fat .
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dye test.]
Howdy Hakan, the
Paul,
D.
I'm not being a naysayer, the conspiracy theory may have legs, but all
this creates many more questions for me...Reasonable doubt is exactly
what they would want to create
All this is circumstantial and we need hard evidence. Witnesses.
Got the witnesses, lots of them.
"And the day they start making drivers carry current receipts for the fuel in their tank to ensure that the taxes were paid is probably about the time your national military adopts the goose step for its parade marches."Welldone Todd!I would add that it's also that time that we "let the
I.S.,
I think you need to do some of your own research on this if you really
want to know. The
answers are all out there. Start at www.911truth.org
I will tackle that first one since you think it is such a hot question:
Blowing up the WTC Towers and Bldg 7 with enormous truck bombs would have
Dear Pannirselvam
Thanks for your message, sorry for the late reply.
Respected and dear Keith and members
Thanking you for you to bring here the updated valuable
information about Castor as biofuel raw material.
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On 13 Apr 2006, at 10:18, D. Mindock wrote:A revolution is what we need here. Peaceful, of course. Well, that won't happen.Would somebody PLEASE get me my orbiting nuke platform? I need to make some changes here.I guess we need to ask: what would Martin Luther King Jr or Ghandi do?Who would
It's not the taxation on fuel that's the problem. It's the hidden
taxation that gives the illusion of cheap fuel at the pump that is.
Todd Swearingen
Michael Redler wrote:
And the day they start making drivers carry current receipts for the
fuel in their tank to ensure that the taxes were
whaddaya mean begin? they began long ago, when you started the Journey!
but yes, the gov'ts are laughable in their ineptitude. you dont even have to
be smart to keep ahead of them- i should know, i r a dummy. HAHA!
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Wasn't this called "prohibition" a while
ago?
Doug
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Sent: Thursday, April 13, 2006 9:44
AM
Subject: Re: [Biofuel] [Fwd: Re:
[DCBiodieselcoop] Police Check Point - fueldye test.]
Hi Gary,
On 13 Apr 2006, at 10:18, D. Mindock wrote:
A revolution is what we need here. Peaceful, of course.
Well, that won't happen.
Maybe, we got to keep putting the thought out into the aether. Everything
begins with a thought. Repeated and dwelled on, it manifests itself. I like
the
"All this is circumstantial and we need hard evidence."The prosecution of a suspected criminal involves (among other things) finding motive, means, opportunity and a pattern of behavioror modus operandi.The video made a compelling case for quantifying what the US government iscapable of.
Imagine
John Lennon
Imagine
theres no heaven.
Its
easy if you try.
No
hell below us,
Above
only sky.
Imagine
all the people
Living
for today.
Imagine
theres no countries.
It
isn't hard to do.
Nothing
to kill or die for,
And
no religion too.
Imagine
all the people
For those interested in self-certification, a model of grassroots
alternative to USDA Organic that has gone global is Certified
Naturally Grown. Might be worth looking into.
Jason West
New Paltz, NY
On Apr 12, 2006, at 11:00 AM, Keith Addison wrote:
I am going to bring up an old post
Hi Jason
For those interested in self-certification, a model of grassroots
alternative to USDA Organic that has gone global is Certified
Naturally Grown. Might be worth looking into.
Yes, CNG - Compressed Natural Gas, ulp. :-)
Quite a lot of argument at SANET about it recently. You can see
Mike,
To me the case has been there all along, just
needsa "tower of strength" to take it on with international news coverage
and Jtf. The case was there for Ike, but all slept on and paid the $36M to Sloan
and Co. in Berlin. Why do we let history repeat,our heritage has not been
Peace,
Sell all your shares. Ditch the lot. remove the money from your bank.
Buy up gold bars or stocks in gold.
It is the only universally tradable currency, not to mention the outcome?
Oh it would hurt, it would involve a total re-think.
Doug
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