Was not sure why one would pay a high price for a virgin oil until I found
that special soaps needed different grades of oils. Some specialty market
soaps require high grade oils and other contents to reach niche markets.
Could this be the case with this oil?
Here the last lot of Jatropha seeds
Joe,
In Israel you will see the same, but with efficient solar panels
built together with an insulated storage. It is however an enormous
difference in efficiency. The black cisterns have a very low
efficiency and you can only collect some warm water at the end of
sunny days. The main
Zeke,
Solar panels was very common in California 100 years ago.
Was replaced by other hot water heaters in a successful
marketing campaign from the energy companies.
Hakan
At 20:21 27/04/2006, you wrote:
Yeah -- I think that part of it is that people are used to seeing
really ugly solar
This is much the same as the organic farming pioneers were saying 70
years ago, people like Albert Howard, G.T. Wrench and others (see JtF
Small Farms Library). The basic wealth is the soil, a local matter.
There's a snip below of what Howard thought of agricultural
economics. See also
http://www.commondreams.org/headlines06/0426-04.htm
Published on Wednesday, April 26, 2006 by OneWorld.net
A Nuclear Waste: UN Condemned for Promoting 'Peaceful' Nuclear Technology
by Haider Rizvi
UNITED NATIONS - A major international environmental group is
demanding the United Nations
Hi Jesse and all
Mike
Yup, I too want to know this, please? We are still fumbling toward our
co-op. Naturally, I should just look at Keith's archives and SEE IT ALL!!!
Jesse
I'm not sure what all is in the archives, maybe not any definitive
answers. There's nothing about filtering at JtF.
http://www.commondreams.org/headlines06/0426-01.htm
Published on Wednesday, April 26, 2006 by the Guardian / UK
Hell on Earth
Chernobyl was the world's worst environmental disaster. Twenty years
on, John Vidal reports on the clean-up, the false medical records,
the communities that refused to
See also:
http://www.prwatch.org/node/4745
Center for Media and Democracy
New Pro-Nuke Front Group Hires Whitman, Moore
http://www.commondreams.org/views06/0426-20.htm
Published on Wednesday, April 26, 2006 by the Freepress (Columbus, Ohio)
Chernobyl Kills While Bought ex-Greenpeacer
Well Mike if you have been following the discussion, we've already
established that my country is the largest producer of hydroelectricity
and gets 70% of its needs from that renewable source. The heatpump CP
is cool for sure but if I wanted to pump heat from my roof to a storage
tank I would
Do you have any information on IR absorption of common black materials,
ie flat black paint types which are resonably good? I plan to do
something with it one day but would like to make something myself of
reasonable efficiency rather than buying a turnkey solution.
Joe
Hakan Falk wrote:
Hey I just thought of something. If I used your heatpump and connected
the output heat exchanger to a sterling motor generator set with an
overall efficiency of lets say 50%, I could get 1.5 KW of electrical
power from the 3 KW heat energy coming out of the heatpump. Since the
heatpump has a
Joe Street wrote:
Hey I just thought of something. If I used your heatpump and
connected the output heat exchanger to a sterling motor generator set
with an overall efficiency of lets say 50%, I could get 1.5 KW of
electrical power from the 3 KW heat energy coming out of the
heatpump.
Good day to all,
After splitting the
glycerine coproduct from roughly 1200L of processed WVO, I distilled
approximately 100L of the glycerine/methanol component.
The first drops of
methanol began to fall from the condenser at 145F. As the temp rose to 150F
there was a steady flow of clear
3A sieves will work but are normally used for getting tiny amounts of
water out of solvents to bring them into the low ppm range. They will
work of course but you might saturate them and have to do a second
stage. There is a significant energy input into regenerating the
seives as well. You
I've been gardening for over 30 years
by essentially "building dirt" and caring for my plants from the ground up.
I've been know to chop off a weed's head now and
again or yank them from the ground. I've squished "bugs" by the
thousandsand lured others to deadly traps. I've never used a
As my distillation temps rose towards 200F (93C) could I have been
including water in my distillate?
Yes, and you probably did. This is why they use distillation columns in
industry.
Zeolytes should work. Just make sure that whatever one you choose is
capable of absorbing water. Not all
Joe,
Thanks for the
reply.
You wrote:
1. "There is a
significant energy input into regenerating the seives as well. You have to
bake them at well over 100 degrees C more like 200, but you can get by with
lower temps if you bake them out with vacuum."
I came across molecular
sieves while
Keith,
You wrote:
So I'm also interested in what folks might have to say about filtering, and
not filtering.
I filtered my WVO when I was doing small - 1L, 5L, 15L batches - but
found it to be too time and energy-consuming when I began to run larger
(91L) batches.
Before
Mike,
You wrote:
Don't forget to blow out the drain holes for your sunroof!
What do you mean?
I have water in the trunk of my '82 Mercedes after it rains. Someone
told me to check my sunroof drainholes. I thought he was kidding ... and
wouldn't know where to check (or blow out)
Howdy Joe, don't stop with IR, you want to absorb all wavelengths- there
is more energy available in the visible/UV than the IR. Any flat black
material will absorb all wavelengths (not counting high energy stuff
like gamma rays). what you need is a material which not only absorbs,
but also
without getting into excessive detail, the boiling point of a mixture is
the weighted average of the stuff present. At first you have pure
methanol coming off. as the temperature rose, increasing amounts of
water contaminated the alcohol.
You need a fractionating column to obtain pure
It will be interesting when the entire story comes out, if ever, and we can
know the total real costs of this accident/disaster.
My wife is Ukrainian and was about 8 years old when the reactor blew. She
lived in Sumy (east-north-east of Kiev on the Russian border) when the
accident happened.
Hello guys,
I had similar issues with recovered
methanol.
when it is wet you will have milyky white methoxide
when you add the NaOH.
My solution is that I use recovered methanol only
30% the rest is always fresh.
and stop the destillation just below 100 deg
C.
this way I've been having
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Colombian Farmers Fear Cheap U.S. Imports
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ESPINAL, Colombia - For 25 years, Victor Murillo has grown rice on a
five-acre plot in
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Oxfam Withdraws Backing for Trade Deal Talks
by Philip Thornton
Oxfam has abandoned its support for the current talks on a new trade
deal, saying Europe and the US have failed to
Hi Tom;
Sieves are porous ceramic which microscopically look like a sponge.
The pore size depends on manufacture and will allow molecules smaller
than the pore size to go into the labrynth of passageways withing the
bulk of the material. Larger molecules are excluded. Refer to
manufacturers
Really? I was under the impression 65% of the incoming solar radiation
was IR and NIR. Well I was thinking of putting flat black paint on
copper pipes and having a sun tracking parabolic mirror beneath them. I
was just wondering if anyone had any data on flat black paint types as
the last
What is the mechanism of FFA action on plants?
Suffocation and some burning if in direct sunlight.
The consolation about veg oils or FFAs when land applied is that the
microbes needed to degrade them are readily present and in high
populations, opposed to fossil oils, where the type needed
Thankyou Tom.
Keith,
You wrote:
So I'm also interested in what folks might have to say about filtering, and
not filtering.
I filtered my WVO when I was doing small - 1L, 5L, 15L batches - but
found it to be too time and energy-consuming when I began to run larger
(91L) batches.
I came across molecular sieves while reading about ethanol
purification, and was
lead to believe (mistakenly?)that they can be regenerated by drying
in the sun.
The temp needed can be achieved in a solar oven.
Todd Swearingen
Thomas Kelly wrote:
Joe,
Thanks for the reply.
You
Hello Tom
I've been gardening for over 30 years by essentially building
dirt and caring for my plants from the ground up.
Good for you! Thirty years in the same place?
I've been know to chop off a weed's head now and again or yank them
from the ground. I've squished bugs by the thousands
Joe,
Thanks for the time you put into
your response.
Re: Zeolites. I should probably buy some and
experiment.I have a note to but 3A molecular sieve. I'll check to make
sure that's the right one.
As I understand it, with
pressure constant, a liquid at boiling point does not increase in
I do have some info on absorbance/emittance of various media, but not
easily at hand. I'll try to look it up.
What I recall is that flat black paint is about 80% absorbance, and
also 80% emittance. Not sure about the difference between different
types of black paint. The selective surfaces
Thanks Todd.
It must have been 25 years ago that a friend was going to prepare
lunch in a solar oven. The idea appealed to me at the time, but on a warm
sunny day we watched and waited, and ended up having to fire up the grill.
Solar ovens have apparently come a long way since then or
Thomas Kelly wrote:
Joe,
Thanks for the time you put into
your response.
Re: Zeolites. I should probably buy
some and experiment.I have a note to but 3A molecular sieve. I'll
check to make sure that's the right one.
As I understand it, with
pressure constant, a liquid at
A while back I was experimenting in the lab and developed a process for
a motheye stucture which consisted of columns of silicon about 100 nm
wide and 400-500nm tall densely packed which since these structures are
in the range of wavelength of light and due to interference effects is
very very
Sock filters are relatively cheap and a head can be bought for them from
http://www.mcmaster.com/ ,search for filter head ,allowing you to pump
through the filter makeing it last much longer and go faster. I would think
setteling would be good enough before processing, but once processed I
Several years ago a guy up the street was out on a sunny day with a
plastic fesnel lens that was about a meter long and 2/3 meter wide and
he and his son were focusing the sun on about a 10cm sized spot on some
asphault he had added to the end of his driveway. The asphault was
smoking. I
Joe,
Funny you mention the satellite dish. I am gathering materials to
build a small satellite dish solar concentrator. I am going to glue
mylar to the surface of the dish and have a black pipe at the focal
point to heat the working liquid. My guess is I'll have to figure out
how to regulate
the sunroof of a car is mainly sealed on the inner edge to stop interior
leaks.
in some cars there are small channels or pipes that run down the doorposts
from the lowest reaches of the sunroof to drain off any water leaked in from
a damaged outer seal. if you can find the bottom end of it, a
Look at the 4 corners of the roof. The fronts are easy - that backs
ones if they get really clogged you have to pull the headliner.
Some cars I used to thread a thin flexisble hose down and use a water
pik to clean them.
Jason Katie wrote:
the sunroof of a car is mainly sealed on the inner
http://www.ida.net/users/tetonsl/solar/page_iii.htm
as i always say, your own rig works best for you.
- Original Message -
From: Paul S Cantrell [EMAIL PROTECTED]
To: biofuel@sustainablelists.org
Sent: Friday, April 28, 2006 3:16 PM
Subject: Re: [Biofuel] Water in recovered methanol?
You can build a well insulated, e-glass, almost-walk-in, oven for $200.
I wouldn't buy one.
Todd Swearingen
Thomas Kelly wrote:
Thanks Todd.
It must have been 25 years ago that a friend was going to prepare
lunch in a solar oven. The idea appealed to me at the time, but on a warm
So, do we have a new movementjoining the ranks of UFPJ and others - this time, to build a new internetand bypass the corporate corrupted one? MikeKeith Addison [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: http://snipurl.com/ps1xYahoo! NewsOpinionKey House Panel Defeats Net NeutralityJeff Chester Thu Apr 27,
So, do we have a new movementjoining the ranks of UFPJ and others - this time, to build a new internetand bypass the corporate corrupted one? MikeKeith Addison [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: http://snipurl.com/ps1xYahoo! NewsOpinionKey House Panel Defeats Net NeutralityJeff Chester Thu Apr 27,
if enough of the corporate corruption is bypassed, wouldnt that mean the
government and its institutions had been completely supplanted by the
subversives(aka, anyone not working as a gov't stooge)?
- Original Message -
From: Michael Redler
To: biofuel@sustainablelists.org
Sent:
Joe,
Not sure, I would need to think hard on it and do some modeling but I
suspect there are several problems, one of which may be temperature
difference limits, i.e. the driving forces needed to move the heat
through your proposed system to reach those efficiencies. What is the
upper temperature
In additon, a fractionating column requires a reflux, the partial return and
recycling of distillate product from the condenser back down the fractionating
column which increases the energy tax (energy costs) of purifying the methanol.
Mike McGinness
bob allen wrote:
without getting into
Thomas,
Part of the answer to your question is that the gas temperature (and the
gas pressure) can go up beyond the boiling liquid temperature if you are
heating a surface that is in contact with both the gas and the liquid
and if the heated surface is hotter than the liquid. It has to do with
I'm in. AND I'm a computer geek - I think we need to go wireless.
Michael Redler wrote:
So, do we have a new movement joining the ranks of UFPJ and others -
this time, to build a new internet and bypass the corporate corrupted one?
Mike
*/Keith Addison [EMAIL PROTECTED]/* wrote:
Yeah, I think it is spelled Police State
Jason Katie wrote:
if enough of the corporate corruption is bypassed, wouldnt that mean the
government and its institutions had been completely supplanted by the
subversives(aka, anyone not working as a gov't stooge)?
- Original Message -
It's true - fronts clogged usually means water on your footwells, back
usually means trunk. Is it a 124? I think I used a modified water pik
for mine...
Thomas Kelly wrote:
Mike,
You wrote:
Don't forget to blow out the drain holes for your sunroof!
What do you mean?
I have
I should point out (duh) thay my filter setup was for when I was getting
crappier oil. Now that I found a top quality source I settle and draw from
the top. I've also noticed that most of the sediment seems to land in
the glycerine later. I still filter the final BD, though.
-Mike
Thomas
as long as we can stay 801.** compatible 'til i get a new laptop.
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Sent: Friday, April 28, 2006 7:38 PM
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I'm in. AND I'm a computer
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