Has anybody done any digging on-line?
What do we know about this process so far? I must have missed earlier
posts, so all I have is the name INEEL and the fact that it involves a
solid catalyst.
Marc de Piolenc
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Remember September 11, 2001 but don't forget July 4, 1776
They that can give up
Ken Provost wrote:
For those interested, I've found a better way to refine WVO than what was
being discussed a few weeks back. You still use NaOH solution, but very
dilute, and lots of it, and you only try to drop the FFA level of the oil by
about 1 ml titer -- repeat as often as needed for your
Laboratories such as INEEL usually develop industrial processes, obtain a
patent for the process, then sell it to the highest bidder for continued
funding of the laboratory. In this case, I would bet that the purchaser was
one of the seven sisters, who promptly buried the book as deep as they
Or rather no catalyst
have a look at
http://www.bioproducts-bioenergy.gov/pdfs/bcota/abstracts/19/z191.pdf
having a go at a processor but I don't think ill stand too close
while I pump the methanol into a 350degrees C tank at 4000PSI ;-)
hope this was a uni professor and not a bored 12YO
To all,
Thx all for the posts on solid cat.
I think I recall something from one of my classes (courses?) (...whatever
they«re called), this year.
In some place it mentioned the use of potassium methoxide (KGME, or
CH3-O-CH2-CH2-OK) and KGPE (Potassium Glyme Poly Ethilene). I think it was
used
- Studying future uses of hydrogen is legitimate research, but it's
a smokescreen, John DeCicco, a senior fellow with Environmental
Defense. It's using legitimate future research needs to hide the
fact the Japanese have beaten the pants off them for delivering the
goods to the marketplace.
Yesterday, just for the sake of it, I tried this out:
.- Poured some alcohol through jelly (remember my post on dehydrating
ethanol?). I have no way to know what the final content of water was after
drying it with jelly, and for the process I«m about to describe, it probably
wasn«t even
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Subject: [biofuel] Happy everything
Merry Christmas to all celebrating Christmas, happy holidays to the
lucky ones on holiday, and peace and goodwill to everyone.
From Keith
Hi Ed
Also a Mother Jones article a little while ago citing this - fertilizer
being used as a carrier for cheap disposal of toxics. Spread it all over our
farmlands in small concentrations instead of paying to have it properly
disposed of. (Yikes!)
Yep. Most of the original investigations and
Laboratories such as INEEL usually develop industrial processes, obtain a
patent for the process, then sell it to the highest bidder for continued
funding of the laboratory. In this case, I would bet that the purchaser was
one of the seven sisters, who promptly buried the book as deep as they
Okay,
While I am in mid purchase of a 1983 Ford Ranger with a Mazda 2.2
litre diesel engine, I am hoping if there is someone out there who can
answer some questions that I have.
To start, does anyone know if there is a shop or garage that would
have parts for this little beast? The closer
Hi there Joe
Wonderful - a New Year daughter, or near as dammit. Hope all's
exceeding well with her, with mum, and with your good self.
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Kieth, thanks for your encouragement and comments on possible biodisel
pollution. I have it on good authority that the UK environment agency
require a 'bribe' of approx $USD 30,000 to analyse possible pollution. If
biodiesel plant dischaeges mirky water into the water system here without
My 83 Mercedes 300TDT (tuirbo diesel station wagon) on SVO is up for grabs.
All gauges are in metric only, it was a direct German import, so as far as
I know, it would a bit difficult but not impossible, to sell in to the US.
Maybe it could, with an instrument cluster change. That's how my
Does your acquisition of a newer Tdi mean you'll be testing SVO in a
direct-injection engine for us?
Craig
Neoteric Biofuels Inc. wrote:
My 83 Mercedes 300TDT (tuirbo diesel station wagon) on SVO is up for grabs.
All gauges are in metric only, it was a direct German import, so as far as
That's two of us, then (plus Steve's buddy.) Who's going to be the first to try
9% ethanol?
Craig
Neoteric Biofuels Inc. wrote:
Probably in some form, yes.
Edward Beggs
PS: Check out (in a day or two) the new underhood mini glycol heat exchanger
- should be installed and pictures on the
Check it for stability.
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That's two of us, then (plus Steve's buddy.) Who's going to be the first to
try
Ed,
Check the ethanol for stability? How does one do that?
Craig
Neoteric Biofuels Inc. wrote:
Check it for stability.
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Sorry, no I mean check the mixture. Does it separate (i.e. can you get a
stable emulsion/mix. How how long? Fuel stability is usually 6 months
minimum. How long can be obtained for just a simple vegoil/ ethanol mix? I
am not sure and have not had a chance to try it yet.
Edward Beggs
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Kieth, thanks for your encouragement and comments on possible
biodisel
pollution. I have it on good authority that the UK environment
agency
require a 'bribe' of approx $USD 30,000 to analyse possible
pollution. If
Could the murky water left over from the production of biodiesel be
distilled? If it could it would at least reduce the volume to contend with.
George
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Kieth, thanks for your encouragement and comments on possible biodisel
pollution. I have it on good authority
Re the solid catalyst that was presumedly developed at Idaho National Energy
Lab about three years ago. How much info was divulged at the time and was
any attempt ever made to patent the technology? Patent laws change, but the
last time I looked at it, after a public disclosure, the inventor
Glen,
With respect to publicly financed research ending up in the pulbic sector,
you expressed contempt at misguided government people who think the best
way to put the technology to the greatest use is to allow anyone to use and
profit from it.
I may have misinterpreted you position, if so
Please see David Cruse's message of 1/8/02, Re: [biofuel] Solid
catalyst,, message # 10743:
The famed Fox/Ginosaur process using a solid catalyst, (which to
this date) hasn't been used commercially, is on Delphion.com. I was
lucky enough to download a copy of the Fox/Ginosaur patent from the
Could the murky water left over from the production of biodiesel be
distilled? If it could it would at least reduce the volume to contend with.
George
At what energy cost? Bathwater is murky, laundry wash is murky,
kitchen waste-water's murky, toilet water's rather more than murky,
there's
In fact since there appears to be more than one way to
do this they may race to get it in production before
it is made obsolete by something similar hitting the
market first.
Dana
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Laboratories such as INEEL usually develop
industrial processes, obtain
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