[biofuel] Re: biodiesel in nederland colorado?

2002-04-27 Thread totink1970
I am involved with a group in Fort Collins, Colorado that has been experimenting with biodiesel production using used vegetable oil. We meet during the summer months behind a local eatery that supplies us with oil. If your interested in meeting with us please email me. Also, a couple of

Re: [biofuel] So, You Want to Buy a Green Car ... Or Do You?

2002-04-27 Thread Keith Addison
I drove a BMW minicooper yesterday, and although it was cute, I would not call 33mpg on premium unleaded clean. Hi Steve You want to take it out on a really tight and twisty mountain road that you know really well. Wait a mo while I shift gear... right, Old Fart mode... These young

Re: [biofuel] The Ethanol Enigma

2002-04-27 Thread MH
From what I gather about the US Farm Energy Bills is the political contribution interests and the majority republican swing votes needed from the farm states this year. Although it could be US energy security and global enviro concerns. In my area all gasoline/diesel pump prices move

Re: [biofuel] The Ethanol Enigma

2002-04-27 Thread Keith Addison
Hi Hoagy From what I gather about the US Farm Energy Bills is the political contribution interests and the majority republican swing votes needed from the farm states this year. Although it could be US energy security and global enviro concerns. In my area all gasoline/diesel pump

Re: [biofuel] So, You Want to Buy a Green Car ... Or Do You?

2002-04-27 Thread steve spence
- Original Message - From: Keith Addison [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: biofuel@yahoogroups.com Sent: Saturday, April 27, 2002 1:24 AM Subject: Re: [biofuel] So, You Want to Buy a Green Car ... Or Do You? I drove a BMW minicooper yesterday, and although it was cute, I would not call 33mpg on

Re: [biofuel] So, You Want to Buy a Green Car ... Or Do You?

2002-04-27 Thread steve spence
It gets 33 at best (worse when I'm honking the supercharger at 6000 rpm), and there is no diesel option here in the USA. Steve Spence Subscribe to the Renewable Energy Newsletter: http://www.webconx.com/subscribe.htm Renewable Energy Pages - http://www.webconx.dns2go.com/ Human powered

[biofuel] Acrylamides, medium-risk carcinogens, found in some fried high-carb foods

2002-04-27 Thread [EMAIL PROTECTED]
http://story.news.yahoo.com/news?tmpl=storyu=/nm/20020424/hl_nm/cancer_bread_1 I wonder if biodiesels made from used grease from such substances would have an out if the acrylamide might not be as harmful unless ingested orally? Yahoo! Groups Sponsor

Re: Re[2]: [biofuel] Huge Hydrogen Stores Found Below Earth's Crust

2002-04-27 Thread Keith Addison
murdoch65 wrote: I am very interested in the last question of the series. What would you do if it was your invention? First let me mention that as to the article from which this question sprang, it was written by a fairly wide-eyed person who got a number of things wrong and let his

[biofuel] Re: Acrylamides, medium-risk carcinogens, found in some fried high-carb foods

2002-04-27 Thread k5farms
--- In [EMAIL PROTECTED], [EMAIL PROTECTED] [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: http://story.news.yahoo.com/news? tmpl=storyu=/nm/20020424/hl_nm/cancer_bread_1 I wonder if biodiesels made from used grease from such substances would have an out if the acrylamide might not be as harmful unless ingested

Re: Re[2]: [biofuel] Huge Hydrogen Stores Found Below Earth's Crust

2002-04-27 Thread [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Steve decided to take him at his word as to the efficiency of burning hydrogen but I disagree with this, as hydrogen fuel cells are making good progress and can be expected to make some more over the next ten or twenty years. Yes, I think that's right, but I do tend to take issue with the

Re: (Todd Paul) [biofuel] murky

2002-04-27 Thread Christian
Thanks to you both for the tips. I still haven«t tried filtering. Heating to, say, 60¼C, makes the BD clear... even leaving it in full sunshine has the same effect, but at 20¼C the BD goes back cloudy. (This is regarding Todd«s 120¼F -49¼C- suggestion) I«ll try Paul«s suggestion first, just

Re: [biofuel] Re: Acrylamides, medium-risk carcinogens, found in some fried high-carb foods

2002-04-27 Thread [EMAIL PROTECTED]
I wonder if biodiesels made from used grease from such substances would have an out if the acrylamide might not be as harmful unless ingested orally? or is it like smokin' dope or putting it in a brownie? Just by chance, I'd not be caught sucking on a biodiesel exhaust. Sorry, what else can

[biofuel] Re: Acrylamides, medium-risk carcinogens, found in some fried high-carb foods

2002-04-27 Thread k5farms
--- In [EMAIL PROTECTED], [EMAIL PROTECTED] [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: damper. I think in the end, the Biodiesel effort will be ok, but it can't hurt to follow the precautionary principle and look into the matter. I think biodiesel or SVO will still come ahead of MTBE,lead,sulphur,benzene

Re: Re[2]: [biofuel] Huge Hydrogen Stores Found Below Earth's Crust

2002-04-27 Thread Keith Addison
Hi m65 Thanks for an interesting letter. Interesting and interesting. Steve decided to take him at his word as to the efficiency of burning hydrogen but I disagree with this, as hydrogen fuel cells are making good progress and can be expected to make some more over the next ten or twenty

Re: (Todd Paul) [biofuel] murky

2002-04-27 Thread Appal Energy
Christian, A lot of people have had difficulty ascribing the haze problem to a root cause. We do know that too much caustic can cause an electro-chemical response where microscopic water wants to adhere to esters. As I am told by our chemist...a reasonably reliable and rather sharp chap...the

[biofuel] murky now clear

2002-04-27 Thread Christian
Dear Todd Paul (and the rest of you), I used a couple of coffee paper filters in a funnel, filtered the fuel, and the BD turned out sparklingly transparent (at room temp). Thanks again for the help, Christian. [Non-text portions of this message have been removed]

Re: [biofuel] So, You Want to Buy a Green Car ... Or Do You?

2002-04-27 Thread stewart hyde
Agreed My 14 year old Citroen BX turbodesel/GTI hybrid Gets 50 mpg (Imperial 4.55 ltr) and runs beautifilly with rapeseed oil @50% fuel extender Stewart from Wales UK where fuel is almost one dollar per litre. - Original Message - From: steve spence [EMAIL PROTECTED] To:

Re: [biofuel] So, You Want to Buy a Green Car ... Or Do You?

2002-04-27 Thread steve spence
Today I test drove a new vw beetle, turbo diesel. Now this is one fine automobile. 44mpg isn't shabby either. saw diesel today for $1.23 / us gallon. Steve Spence Subscribe to the Renewable Energy Newsletter: http://www.webconx.com/subscribe.htm Renewable Energy Pages -

Re: [biofuel] So, You Want to Buy a Green Car ... Or Do You?

2002-04-27 Thread Appal Energy
Hey... I just drove a 1986 VW Golf, filled to the brim with biodiesel, hauling a trailer full of hay and about 400 pounds of boiler parts and got ~44mpg. I'll take utility and green over a chick car and green any dayI'm t old for chick. Just keep praying for acid drought, another

Re: [biofuel] murky now clear

2002-04-27 Thread Appal Energy
Christian, Were I to hazard a guess, it sounds more like you had a minor emulsion problem or some form of other particulate suspension problem other than a simple fuel haze as a result of microscopic water adhesion. That or you've been working in a really cold basement in Maine and you're

RE: [biofuel] So, You Want to Buy a Green Car ... Or Do You?

2002-04-27 Thread AOAR Welch B.
i did not know that a small car could pull a trailer and not overheat. -Original Message- From: Appal Energy [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Sunday, April 28, 2002 4:02 AM To: biofuel@yahoogroups.com Subject: Re: [biofuel] So, You Want to Buy a Green Car ... Or Do You? Hey... I just

Re: [biofuel] So, You Want to Buy a Green Car ... Or Do You?

2002-04-27 Thread Appal Energy
Seriously, it's not a problem. And I haven't flushed the radiator for 2 years. Single axle, 8' x 10' trailer, 900#s tare weight, often loaded with 1/2 - 3/4 ton, hauling as much as 300 miles round trip, no overheat problem. Bit of a load on the brakes more than anything else. And I'm sure a

Re: [biofuel] So, You Want to Buy a Green Car ... Or Do You?

2002-04-27 Thread Appal Energy
Chek that... a 6' x 10' trailer. Must have been romanticising as if it were a 48 foot reefer being hauled by a Cummings. Todd Swearingen - Original Message - From: Appal Energy To: biofuel@yahoogroups.com Sent: Saturday, April 27, 2002 8:31 PM Subject: Re: [biofuel] So, You

Re: [biofuel] So, You Want to Buy a Green Car ... Or Do You?

2002-04-27 Thread Keith Addison
Steve Spence wrote: I drove a BMW minicooper yesterday, and although it was cute, I would not call 33mpg on premium unleaded clean. Hi Steve You want to take it out on a really tight and twisty mountain road that you know really well. I did! ;-) You know then! Total fun.

Re: [biofuel] So, You Want to Buy a Green Car ... Or Do You?

2002-04-27 Thread Keith Addison
Hey... I just drove a 1986 VW Golf, filled to the brim with biodiesel, hauling a trailer full of hay and about 400 pounds of boiler parts and got ~44mpg. I'll take utility and green over a chick car and green any dayI'm t old for chick. Hey, Todd... You're more of an old fart

Re: [biofuel] So, You Want to Buy a Green Car ... Or Do You?

2002-04-27 Thread steve spence
- Original Message - From: Keith Addison [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: biofuel@yahoogroups.com Sent: Saturday, April 27, 2002 9:09 PM Subject: Re: [biofuel] So, You Want to Buy a Green Car ... Or Do You? Steve Spence wrote: I drove a BMW minicooper yesterday, and although it was cute, I

Re: [biofuel] So, You Want to Buy a Green Car ... Or Do You?

2002-04-27 Thread Appal Energy
Man...You're too much fun ROFL ROFLROFL ROFFL... Todd - Original Message - From: Keith Addison To: biofuel@yahoogroups.com Sent: Saturday, April 27, 2002 9:09 PM Subject: Re: [biofuel] So, You Want to Buy a Green Car ... Or Do You? [snip...] You could get your wish. I hope it

[biofuel] Re: Phosphoric

2002-04-27 Thread Appal Energy
Oky Keith, I've backtracked and got all the late email addressed or deleted. Now what was that question? Phosphoric was it? Here is the ugly little secret. Phosphoric has the propensity of breaking down an ester. What is broken ester? Simply put...it's an FFA. What is an FFA? It's a

Re: [biofuel] Huge Hydrogen Stores Found Below Earth's Crust

2002-04-27 Thread motie_d
--- In [EMAIL PROTECTED], Keith Addison [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I'm sure you'd think of a better way. Courts, sure, and you're dead right about patents. Patents don't mean much these days, unless you're a big corp, and not even then - the big corps spend a lot of time and money

Re: [biofuel] Acrylamides, medium-risk carcinogens, found in some fried high-carb foods

2002-04-27 Thread Appal Energy
I think it might be an erroneous assumption to compare biodiesel to high-temperature fried potato sticks... Is that potato or potatoe?...Just kidding...[Standard US joke post what was his name?...oh... Dan Quayle.] Remember first that acrolein is a heavy byproduct of incomplete combustion

Re: [biofuel] Cheap Alcohol in Vermont? - 2

2002-04-27 Thread George Wessel
He would do well to contact his states Dept of Revenue and ask what permits are needed in his state of residence. [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: In the US, home brewers need to get a small fuel producer permit from the US Bureau of Alcohol, Tobacco and Firearms. It is fairly easy to aquire, and

Re: [biofuel] biodiesel in nederland colorado?

2002-04-27 Thread Appal Energy
Okay... Is this an obvious declaration of a need to develop a biodieseler's index of small producers? Todd Swearingen - Original Message - From: Theresa Cecot To: biofuel@yahoogroups.com Sent: Friday, April 26, 2002 1:11 PM Subject: [biofuel] biodiesel in nederland colorado? help